It's part of care
While perusing this Ron Paul video linked by DistributedRepublic, I noted this other video featuring George Lakoff. Only partway through what I hoped to be an illuminating experience did I start to take notes on what I realized might have to come forth as a post. The block-quoted, italicized material is what he was saying; I use quotation marks where I actually bothered to run it back and forth to obtain an accurate quote, just one of the many Potteresque sacrifices I make for the greater good:
Four things that conservatives want to stop government from doing:Which seems essentially correct. It doesn't apply equally well to us classical liberals, but since Lakoff can only think in one dimension and therefore chucks us liberals in with the conservatives, I suppose I'll have to selectively respond to him. He does not seem to find anything on which to criticize "progressives", unless it is to think too much like conservatives.
- regulation
- tax
- workers rights
- lawsuits
Apparently, "progressives" think differently about these issues. It's not just that they are in favor of all of those things: it's that they really care.
Which is also essentially correct: people styling themselves "progressives" actually think in those terms. And they believe that if you can think of it in this way, it must work this way. I'm going to use the same phrase I did in reaction to Skocpol: Plausibility is not all. Actual motives and actual outcomes count for something, too.And progressives support these things because it's "part of 'care'."
- Regulations are protection from negligent corporations [caution: trying to combine two terms is a Lakoff alarm-ringer: it means that he is trying to cement "negligent" and "corporation" together in your mind]
- Taxation means protection and empowerment - the government builds highways!
- The internet was ARPAnet, built by the government.
- Satellites were built to help NASA.
- The banking system was created by government.
- The court system was created by government.
- The stock market is held together by the SEC.
- And of course, there's education.
Now, don't be nasty little gits and point out that regulations were requested by corporations to protect themselves from competitors, or that private highways once dominated the transportation system and the public highway system underlies our oil-based culture and were originally promoted as efficient means of carrying out war preparations, or that ARPAnet was a contractor-designed mechanism for letting physicists in MIT and Cal State design nukes on high performance computers for the purpose of punishing the USSR and not anywhere near the MCI- and Cisco-backboned system that exists today, or that NASA is a waste of money whose raison d'etre was to demonstrate that we had the power to nuke the Soviets with our massive phalli without actually nuking them, or that banking, markets, and school have all existed at one time or another without the SEC, Fed, or federal Department of Education. I'll almost concede that the government created courts when Lakoff can explain to me which department invented them, as his phrasing implies.
In religion, the two frames emphasize a strict versus a nurturing GodI doubt both versions - any being sufficiently that far advanced would be more interested in the act of creation and does not need the resulting creatures either fearing or trying to please the creator, nor does that creator take an interest in the fortunes of individual talking monkeys. If God exists, God is an engineer, not a brittle politician.
Foreign policy: strict American-centered vs. nurturing "you care"I disagree with both - foreign policy should be conducted the same as any person conducts business with other adults: I'm going to do some things that don't concern you, you can do whatever you want that doesn't concern me, let's cooperate where it works to both of our advantage, and I will defend myself if you do anything aggressive (and I should not be surprised if you react similarly when I am aggressive toward you). At first glance, this seems uncaring, but when you consider the number of ways that American foreign and other policy harms, for example, grain and cotton farmers in Africa, then I propose that they will be better off. Furthermore, I believe they gain much more from the aid contributed by individual Americans than from the USAID handouts that front as more farm subsidies, or mechanisms for bending foreign governments to our will. The best example of Lakoff's nurturing foreign policy: Victoria's Britannia, saving the savages from themselves. They had a flag, you see.
Education - "progressives are adopting conservative views because they've heard them so much." Strict - "we're going to tell you what's right and you're going to learn it," v. progressive "you're going to develop as a person." First is punitive, we're going to punish students and schools. Production view of education, consumer model which comes from strict father view. Other view says education is not just a business. Finding this more and more among progressives.That's a lot to parse.
- There must be both to some extent (rote memorization and developmental encouragement) plus better critical thinking (why are things this way and what aren't they telling me?).
- If leftists are accepting that
paradigmframe, why don't they take more credit for having authored NCLB instead of laying the whole thing at George's feet? "Progressives" aren't interested in holding schools accountable per se; they are interested in holding schools accountable as a means of centralizing the control of them. - Public schooling has been more about how to mold them into consumers and voters who accept one or the other branch of the one true religion. This has been the emphasis of both the left and right.
Seriously, though, it's clear that Lakoff's view of business and production is not well thought-out. Going back to his earlier view about markets "deciding" is the same as markets "punishing", it says that his model of consumer/business interaction is win/lose. I would point out to him that markets are (a) not people (who is engaging in anthropromorphism now, Dr. Lakoff?) and (b) mechanisms for coordination and encouragement. Even Marx understood this when he talks about the "socially necessary" amount of labor: some producers are better at using their resources and talents, and the markets tend to reward them, i.e. nurture them, while simultaneously encouraging their competitors to do the same, i.e. develop.
Idea of energy independence came out of environmental view: We should have alternative forms of energy. Other view [conservative], "we have coal, we have ethanol." Conservative view is anti-ecological. Comes to be accepted by progressives and then press.Again, lots of stuff bundled together that needs parsing:
- He does not explain why ecologists wanted alternative forms of energy to begin with. Was it not perhaps because their efforts to punish mainstream energy producers were not successful? Or is it because their efforts to promote mainstream energy consumption were too successful?
- He does not at this point explain how "conservative view is anti-ecological" though I might be inclined to agree if he did. No does he admit that it was "progressives" who first started and then continued to support ethanol (unless he'd like to argue that Jimmy Carter and Tom Daschle are conservatives).
- In one sense, this is a fabricated difference between the "let's grow our own for the planet" and the "let's grow our own to screw foreigners." Both left and right have long been anti-import, this is nothing new, so this allows each Bootlegger to be the other's Baptist. In another sense, so long as people are doing this on their own dime, I'm all in favor of growing our own and defunding the state oil companies in Saudi Arabia, Russia, and Venezuela.
- And come on, Dr. Lakoff, aren't the conservatives just nurturing those other fuels (coal, ethanol)? Gosh, I'm getting the hang of this
spinningframing thing.
Illegal immigration is the wrong frame; it should be a gratitude deficit.I must not be a conservative because I agree with him on illegal immigration - there should be a debate about gratitude deficit. Oh wait, there is. For lols, though, we might extend it: where's the gratitude deficit for oil companies, who are after all only providing you with the fuel you want at a price below that which you are willing to pay?
Incidentally, the phrase "conservative frames" comes up over and over, as if he were trying to get us to think that only non-progre ... ah, I get it! A quick pair of googles results in the following:
"conservative frame" lakoff - 654 hits
"progressive frame" lakoff - 362 hits
So, conservatives actively frame, while the poor, innocent, honest, straight-talking progressives never do. I got it.
Our job is "Not just changing a slogan".Except that he should know this is how Democrat politicians intend to use the idea. Incidentally, if true, why does he never use "Democrat", "liberal", or "left", but always uses "progressive"? This sounds to me like the non-ideological ideologue's belief system.
Taxes don't cause literal, physical pain, only metaphorical, financial pain. To understand this, you have to have conservative view. Progressives say, "[taxes] are there for protection and empowerment. You can't live in a country like this without them. They allow you to do all the things that your do. They allow businesses to exist and to function. then you can't have tax relief. Not only that it would be like saying we want democracy relief, we want freedom relief."Incidentally -- "strict father" vs. "nurturant parent"? Is that not the most awkward phrase ever? An audience member with an accent finally asks the obvious:
"Taxation is empowering business."
[Why isn't it strict father vs. nurturing mother?] "You seemed to have framed it yourself to leave the female aspect out of it."Any data to back up any of that? That was the worst non-answer of the session.
"Well, one of the interesting things about America [talking down to the audience member who had a foreign accent], is that it became the nurturing parent probably in the Roosevelt administration. But in a way it's been there for a long time. These values, If you go back in the history and read the early documents by the founding fathers, you see lots of nurturing views applied to government. It had nothing to do with men and women. ..."
In progressive families, fathers are expected to be equally nurturing.
Toward the end, with respect to war powers, Lakoff is on the same sheet of music as Ron Paul:
Congress is the Decider.Then this diatribe:
"There are some people who call themselves conservatives all over the country who are progressive Christians who believe that really you should feed the hungry you should heal the sick and that's what the country should be doing, very very different from conservative Christians.This is an incredibly dishonest discourse. Anyone who calls themselves a conservative but doesn't do the wrong thing is not a conservative by definition -- Lakoff's definition. He basically assumes away the honest, kind, conservatives on the basis that anyone who is good is a "progressive" and anyone who is malicious is a conservative. Nice frame job.
"You have people who call themselves conservatives but are progressive business people. But they don't think of themselves as such. They turn out to be honest, they treat their employees well, they would never harm the public. They are basically progressive businesspeople but they don't think of themselves as being that.
"There are people who call themselves conservatives but want to live in progressive communities. What's a progressive community? Where you have leaders who care about people and are responsible and where you have people who care about each other and are responsible to and for each other and who do community service. All over this country there are people who want to live in those communities."
"Our job is the democratization of knowledge."If we accept his frame, then the opposition is obviously in favor of the plutocratization of knowledge. But who controls knowledge? Whose job is that? The mainstream media? Academia? Federal agencies (the FDA comes to mind)? What are the political leanings of those institutions?
I also recommend reading Jesse Walker's article at Reason and a synopsis of the Lakoff vs. Pinker debate at MixingMemory blog for background on Dr. Lakoff.
Random things about the lecture that just strike me oddly:
- The false dilemma between this or that frame. No third frame? Jesse Walker points out one possible alternative to the daddy state and the mommy state: the state in which we are all treated as adults. I illustrated that in a post a few days ago.
- The father v. parent. Seems artificial as well as being a false dilemma.
- I think what he really means is the Old Testament vs. the New Testament paradigm. Old Testament is "punish evil", New Testament is "love everyone". Punish evil means both God punishes evil (that's where poverty and disease come from) and people punish evil (through stoning and shunning). Love everyone is nihilism. It works well if you happen to be God in the form of man, though. Well, until you piss off the wrong people and they decide to nail you for it.
- It's a false frame since strictness could be a necessary component of nurturing. You could recast the strict father as the protective father who keeps away bad guys or keeps his kids from doing what will obviously harm them, or the tough father who encourages them to stand up to bullies and learn to stand on their own. You could recast the nurturing parent as a negligent father who allows bad guys to run roughshod over them, the nurturing parent who sets no boundaries (they might be limits to growth), the nurturing parent who shields the kid from the real world? The metaphor is simply dishonest.
- The strict father/nurturing mother dilemma seems artificially intended to divert attention away from the fact that and steps toward authoritarianism have been identified as the "nanny state" and most of the worst authoritarian governments have been explicitly "progressive" in the Lakoffian sense. Uncle Joe doesn't want to punish; he sent you to a correction camp (gulag) so you can mend your ways and be a more productive citizen. Chairman Mao wants you to confess your class guilt before your peers and undertake our own re-education so you can become a better, more productive citizen.
- The conservative v. progressive.
- Another false dilemma. Even the Rockridge pamphlet points out the uselessness of a linear theory of politics. And "progressive" is the most self-aggrandizing term I've ever heard. As I've argued before, people calling themselves by this term are generally very conservative: mention vouchers and watch them froth at the thought of changing the perfect educational system.
- The idea that only conservative frames need to be changed. It seems miraculously fortunate that Lakoff and his fellow travellers have no misleading and possibly unhealthy misconceptions about the world.
- The supposition that because he understands something about the brain and linguistics, that he therefore has something to say about economics and politics. The entire speech and his own description of his books come across as the work of a political advisor like Dick Morris or James Carville. "We figured out this about the brain, therefore everyone who doesn't agree with me is a liar, therefore Hillary should be president." Dr. Lakoff, I think maybe you need to work on the middle and last part.
- The fact that many of these issues can be cast in either frame, depending on what you are talking about. Statists may want to help guide the behavior of corporations; they do so by establishing strict fines and other penalties so the government can punish them! President Bush only wanted to invade Iraq to help the people there to grow as free Sunnis and Shias. Etc.
- The fascination with framing as if this were a new idea. It is not: we used to call it "paradigm" and "spin", and before that they called it "state of mind" and "lies told by The Man". There's a reason that, since the 1970s or 80s, we haven't had a pro-abortion/anti-abortion debate but rather we've had a pro-choice / pro-life debate. The reason is that people long ago figured out that it was better to cast their own agenda as positive, pro-something in order to imply the other guy is negative and anti-something. The esoterica of the physiological, psychological, and neural science may be new, but the rest of it is an ad man's game.
- There is an underlying theme, shared by people like Anne Coulter, that the other side is not dealing honestly. To adopt his methodology, in Lakoff's metaframe, there are people who deal in dishonest frames which they force on the honest people. But he doesn't believe that his own explanation is an obvious straw man, and neither do his disciples. In order for the explanation to make sense to them, they have to believe that the other side believes in something that nobody would accept if they knew what it really was, so they had to conceive of a brilliant lie to get others to accept it. Thus, the other side is good at promoting their bad ideas because they cannot actually have any good ideas. It apparently never enters the heads of Dr. Lakoff or Anne Coulter that the world is more complex than either the good frame (Lakoff's or Coulters) or the bad frame (anyone with whom he or she disagrees). This is a problem with some libertarians, too. That's why I try to promote the idea that one should refrain from thinking of one's opponents as stupid, insane, or evil.
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