Ancestors of
Gordon Alan Douglas
and
Kathleen "Kathy" Louise Brown
.
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Updated Dec 2009

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The updating of the numbering system used on this page has been completed. Generation 28 is my own;
27 is that of my parents; 29 is that of my children, etc.  --   John M. Gwin, May 2009


When our son Jeremy married Kara Douglas on 9 June 2006, we knew this page would soon be forthcoming.  Charity had married Beau, and the Pihlaja page became part of the tree. Sarah had married Jason, and off we went with the branch for the Johnsons. So when Sharon and I went to




Albuquerque for a visit with Jeremy and Kara in March 2007, who was I to put off the inevitable? The grafts had taken, spring had arrived, and the sap was running. Readers, we are delighted to present to you the beginnings of our Gwin/Douglas connection!
--John M. Gwin --

:-)


TABLE OF CONTENTS


Brown Family Page  (includes these additional surnames:  Davis, Delano, Dodds, James, Jones, Luft, Morales, Potter, Reynolds, Stogdill, Truelove)

Butler Family Page (includes these additional surnames:  )

Chapman Family Page
(includes these additional surnames:  )

Dodds Family Page  (includes these additional surnames:   )

Douglas Family Page  (includes these additional surnames:  Manning, McAndrews, Middleton, Miller, Southard)

Dow Family Page  (includes these additional surnames:   )

Felker Family Page  (includes these additional surnames: Bright, Dow)

Hartsell Family Page  (includes these additional surnames:  Anthony, Arnett, Broyles, Bryant, Carson, Doran, Early, Griswold, Madden, Norton, Norvell, Schuler,  Smith, Templin, Walker)

Heatwole Family Page  (includes these additional surnames: Emerson)

James Family Page  (includes these additional surnames: Reynolds, Smith)

Reynolds Family Page  (includes these additional surnames:     )

Shaw Family Page  (includes these additional surnames:     )

Templin Family Page  (includes these additional surnames:     )

Truelove Family Page  (includes these additional surnames:     )


Ahnentafel in Family Tree Format: An Overview







32--Mr. Douglas
64--Mr. Douglas



16--Branch L. Douglas

65--Mrs. Douglas (nee unk.)




33--Mrs. Douglas (nee unk.)
66


08--James L. Douglas


67




34
68



17--Maggie L. (nee unk.)

69




35
70

04--R. E. "Doug" Douglas



71




36--Shem Heatwole, Jr.
72--Shem Heatwole, Sr.



18--Amos F.  Heatwole

73--Elizabeth (nee unk.)




37--Catherine (nee unk.)
74


09--Mary C. Heatwole


75




38--James M. Chapman
76--Mr. Chapman



19--Mittie F. Chapman

77--Mrs. Chapman (nee unk.)




39--Lizzie A. (nee unk.)
78
02--Gordon A. Douglas



79




40--John H. Hartsell
80--Abraham Hartsell, Jr.



20--Wm. B. Hartsell

81--Mrs. Hartsell (nee unk.)




41Amanda Jane (nee unk.)
82


10--Dale M.Hartsell


83




42
84



21--Josephine (nee unk.)

85




43
86

05--Dorothy J. Hartsell


87




44--Mr. Templin 88--Mr. Templin



22--David T. Templin

89--Mrs. Templin (nee unk.)




45--Mrs. Templin (nee unk.) 90


11--Rhoda L. Templin


91




46--Mr. Butler
92--Mr. Butler



23--Susan Butler

93--Mrs. Butler (nee unk.)




47--Mrs. Butler (nee unk.) 94





95
01--Kara M. Douglas
       m. Jeremy S. Gwin




48--Royal H. Brown

96--Mr. Brown



24--Sydney Brown

97--Mrs. Brown (nee unk.)




49--Alida Potter
98--Mr. Potter


12--Lester S.Brown


99--Mrs. Potter (nee unk.)




50--William G. Truelove
100--Mr. Truelove



25--Elizabeth A. Truelove

101--Mrs. Truelove (nee unk.)




51--Sarah Davis
102--Mr. Davis

06--George L. Brown



103--Mrs. Davis (nee unk.)




52--Wm. H. Dodds, Sr.
104--Mr. Dodds



26--William H. Dodds, Jr.

105--Mrs. Dodds (nee unk.)




53--Sarah (nee unk.)
106--


13--Georgie L. Dodds


107--                      




54--William Reynolds
108--Mr. Reynolds



27--Leticia Reynolds

109--Mrs. Reynolds (nee unk.)




55--Mary A. James
110--Albert James
03--Kathy Brown




111--Ruth A. Smith




56--Mr. Shaw
112--Mr. Shaw



28--Mr. Shaw

113--Mrs. Shaw (nee unk.)




57--Mrs. Shaw (nee unk.)
114


14--John C. Shaw


115




58
116



29--Mrs. Shaw (nee unk.)

117




59
118

07--Joanne Caroline Shaw



119




60--Peter Felker
120--Mr. Felker



30--Henry R. Felker

121--Mrs. Felker (nee unk.)




61--Catherine (nee unk.)
122


15--Dorcas C. Felker


123




62--Mr. Dow
124--Mr. Dow



31--Dorcas Dow

125--Mrs. Dow (nee unk.)




63--Mrs. Dow (nee unk.) 126





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Sources:
1. Conversations with Kara and her family: Gordon and Kathy Brown Douglas and George and Joanne Shaw Brown;

2. U. S. Census information (photos of original documents via Ancestry.com)

3. Douglas birth book pages (family trees, signatures, photos, etc.)

4. The Hartsell Connection by Larry D. Fox and Magdalene E. Fox, loaned to us by Gordon Douglas' aunt, [Hartsell 7.6]--Lorraine M. Hartsell Smith

5. Steve Norvell's information related to his parents, [Hartsell 7.4]--Juanita Hartsell Norvell and James Norvell, listed there in this green.

6. Conversations with 7.2--Doug Douglas, grandson of Branch L. Douglas and grandfather to Kara, after Doug moved in 2007 to Las Cruces, NM, to be near his son Gordon and family.




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D O U G L A S
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l-r: Kara, Gordon, Dorothy, Beth, Doug, Joanne, newborn Rebecca, Kathy, Jessica, George; May 1989

[John M. Gwin NOTE: The following 4.0--John/Emily Douglass family may or may not be that of our 5.0--Branch L. Douglas; however, when I searched the 1870 Virginia census for any Virginian of the right age with the given name of Branch, this 5.08--Branch L. Douglass was one of a mere handful to appear. And the fact that he has the correct last name (though spelled with two esses)] convinces me that he is indeed our target.]


[John M. Gwin NOTE: On another  note...
From: "Norman E. West" <nlwestattexhomadotnet>
Date: August 25, 2007
To: <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: Southard connection

This has nothing to do with your line, but... My great-great-grandfather was Elias Southard whom you have on your Douglas page in the census of 1870.  His son Benjamin (who was between Emily J. and William F. who married Lucy A.) was my grandfather.  It is interesting to me to find out her maiden name, possibly, and I agree with your findings, probably!  Benjamin married and had a family in Virginia; however, his oldest son moved to Oklahoma when it was Indian Country, and Benjamin followed and died in Oklahoma and is buried at Ft Sill, Oklahoma.  His wife refused to come to Oklahoma and is buried at Standardsville, VA.  My husband and I raise wheat and  cattle on my grandfather's land he got in 1903.  This is all side-family-info, but your page was interesting to me, and I had to share.   Louise Southard West]


26 Aug 1850 cens. of 186/186 Greene Co., VA
John Douglass, 32, m, farmer, va, CNROW
Emily Douglass, 27, etc. CNROW
George W., 6, m
James E., 4, m
Lucy A., 2, f
baby, 2/12, f
18 Jul 1860 cens. of 213/213 Swift Run, Greene Co., VA
John Douglass, 45, m, farmer, va, CNROW
E. Douglass, 35 etc. CNROW
G. W., 17, m
J. E., 14, m
L. A., 12, f
M. F., 10, f
A., 8, f
M. F., 5, m
Dolly, 2, f
27 Jun 1870 cens. of 112/112, Stanardsville, Greene Co., VA

John Douglass, 54, farmer
Emily, 46
Mary f, 20
Adeline, 18
Dolly, 14,
Millard, 8
Branch L., 5





Note:
Greene, Page, and Madison counties all abut each other.
4 Aug 1870 cens. of 542/542, Stanardsville, Greene Co., VA

Elias Southard, 65, w m farmer
Emily J., 39, w f
William F., 35, w m
Lucy A., 21, w f
[looked for any Lucy A. in Stanardsville-- this one appeared and may be ours...if so, they are all in Madison Co. in 1880]
John N. or W., 33, w m
Mary S., 24, w f
Alice M., 5/12, w f


Name in 21-22 Jun 1880 census of Rapid Ann Dist., Madison Co., VA
Age
W. F. Southard 46
Lucy A. Southard 25
Thomas A. Southard 9
Benjamin Southard 8
Mary F. Southard 1
John W. Southard 45
Mary S. Southard 30
Alice Southard 13
Lizzie Southard 10
Willie Southard 8
Lula M. Southard 1
6
Nettie Taylor 50
Charles Williams 17
Name in 19 Jun 1900 cens. of Rapidan Dist., Madison Co., VA Age
John Southard 65
Alice M Southard 30
William W Southard 26
Lula M Southard 21
Elijah T Southard 19
Lenward Southard 15
William H Southard 66
Lucy A Southard 51
Thomas A Southard 27
Mary F Southard 21
Della G Southard 13
Emily J Southard 69
Dicy Barley 42




27 Jun 1870 census of Stanardsville, Greene Co., VA
112/112, John Douglass, 54, farmer
emily, 46
Mary f, 20
adeline, 18
dolly, 14,
Millard, 8
Branch L, 5

18 Jul 1860 census of Swift Run, Greene Co., VA
213/213 John Douglass, 45, m, farmer, va, CNROW
e. douglass, 35 etc. CNROW
G.W., 17, m
JE, 14, m
LA, 12, f
MF, 10, f
a, 8, f
mf, 5, m
dolly, 2, f
Name in 28 Jun 1900 cens. of Monroe, Greene Co., VA
Age
Philmore M Douglas 42
Emma Douglas 35
Janette Douglas 11
Duane Douglas 6
Sadie R Douglas 3
Philipe Douglas 2
Pelhem Douglas 1.12
Name in 27 Apr 1910 cens. of Monroe, Greene Co., VA Age
Philmore M Douglas 49
Emma Douglas 39
Jennine Douglas 16
Philup D Douglas 12
Beters Douglas 6 "Betris" (Beatrice)

[24.00]--John (John George?) Douglass, b. ca. 1815-16 [listed as John Douglass, age 32, in 26 Aug 1850 census of Greene Co., VA]; [listed as John, age 45 in 18 Jul 1860 census of Swift Run, Greene Co., VA]; [listed as John, age  54 in 27 Jun  1870 census of Stanardsville, Greene Co., VA]; [listed as George(!) "Douglap" ("s" = "p" is an Ancestry.com mistranscription), age 66 in 11 Jun 1880 census of Monroe, Greene Co., VA]; [listed as John Douglas, age 89, widower, in 28 Jun 1900 census of Monroe, Greene Co., VA]; ; d. aft. 1870; m. bef. 1843 to Emily (nee unk., b. ca. 1824-25 [listed as Emily, age 27, in 26 Aug 1850 census of Greene Co., VA]; [listed as E., age 35 in 18 Jul 1860 census of Swift Run, Greene Co., VA]; [listed as Emily, age 46 in 27 Jun  1870 census of Stanardsville, Greene Co., VA]; [listed as Emly, age 55 in 11 Jun 1880 census of Monroe, Greene Co., VA]; d. bef. 1900 census); at least 9 ch.

[25.01]--George W. Douglass, son, b. ca. 1843 [listed as George W., age 6, in 26 Aug 1850 census of Greene Co., VA]; [age 17 in 18 Jul 1860 census of Swift Run, Greene Co., VA]; [does not appear in 27 Jun  1870 census of Stanardsville, Greene Co., VA];

[25.02]--James E. Douglass, son, b. ca. 1846 [listed as "James E., age 4, in 26 Aug 1850 census of Greene Co., VA]; [age 14 in 18 Jul 1860 census of Swift Run, Greene Co., VA]; [does not appear in 27 Jun  1870 census of Stanardsville, Greene Co., VA];

[25.03]--Lucy A. Douglass, dau., b. ca. 1848 [listed as Lucy A., age 2, in 26 Aug 1850 census of Greene Co., VA]; [age 12 in 18 Jul 1860 census of Swift Run, Greene Co., VA]; [does not appear in 27 Jun  1870 census of Stanardsville, Greene Co., VA];

[25.04]--Mary Frances Douglass, dau., b. ca. Jun 1850 [listed as "baby", age 2/12, in 26 Aug 1850 census of Greene Co., VA]; [listed as M.F., age 10 in 18 Jul 1860 census of Swift Run, Greene Co., VA]; [listed as Mary F., age 20 in 27 Jun  1870 census of Stanardsville, Greene Co., VA]; [listed as Frances, age 25(!) in 11 Jun 1880 census of Monroe, Greene Co., VA];

[25.05]--Adeline Douglass, dau., b. ca. 1852 [age 8 in 18 Jul 1860 census of Swift Run, Greene Co., VA]; [age 18 in 27 Jun  1870 census of Stanardsville, Greene Co., VA];

[25.06]--Millard Fillmore Douglass, son, b. ca. 1855 [BIRTH ORDER PROBLEM: age 5 in 18 Jul 1860 census of Swift Run, Greene Co., VA, BUT age 8  in 27 Jun  1870 census of Stanardsville, Greene Co., VA]; [not listed in 11 Jun 1880 census of Monroe, Greene Co., VA]; [listed as Philmore M. Douglas, age 42, in 28 Jun 1900 census of Monroe, Greene Co., VA]; [age 49 in  27 Apr 1910 census of Monroe, Greene Co., VA];; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. ca. 1889 to Emma (nee unk.; b. ca. 1865 [age 35 in 28 Jun 1900 census of Monroe, Greene Co., VA]; [age 39 in  27 Apr 1910 census of Monroe, Greene Co., VA];; d. unk.; bd. unk.); 9 ch., 5 still live in 1900, 3 in 1910;

[26.01]--Jarrette Douglas, son, b. May 1889 [age 11 in 28 Jun 1900 census of Monroe, Greene Co., VA]; ; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m.
[26.04]--Duane Douglas, dau., b. May 1894 [age 6 in 28 Jun 1900 census of Monroe, Greene Co., VA]; ; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m.
[26.06]--Sadie R. Douglas, dau., b. ca. 1897 [age 3 in 28 Jun 1900 census of Monroe, Greene Co., VA]; ; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m.
[26.07]--Philipe Douglas, son, b. May 1898 [age 2 in 28 Jun 1900 census of Monroe, Greene Co., VA]; [age 12 in 27 Apr 1910 census of Monroe, Greene Co., VA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.;
[26.08]--Pelhem Douglas, dau., b. Apr. 1900 [age 1mo. in 28 Jun 1900 census of Monroe, Greene Co., VA]; ; d. bef. 1910; bd. unk.;
[26.09]--Beatrice Douglas, dau., b. ca. 1904 [age 6 in  27 Apr 1910 census of Monroe, Greene Co., VA]; ; d. bef. 1910; bd. unk.; m. unk.;


[25.07]--Dolly Douglass, dau., b. ca. 1858 [BIRTH ORDER PROBLEM: age 2 in 18 Jul 1860 census of Swift Run, Greene Co., VA, BUT age 14  in 27 Jun  1870 census of Stanardsville, Greene Co., VA]; [not listed in 11 Jun 1880 census of Monroe, Greene Co., VA];

[25.08]--Branch L. Douglass, son, b. ca. 1865; [age 5  in 27 Jun  1870 census of Stanardsville, Greene Co., VA]; [listed as Branch, age 11 in 11 Jun 1880 census of Monroe, Greene Co., VA];

25.00 (perhaps 25.08)--Branch L. Douglas, b. ca. Jul 1862 in VA [age 37 in the 7 Jun 1900 census of Shenandoah Iron Works, Page Co., VA; occ., farmer]; [age 46 in 29 Apr 1910 census of Shenandoah Iron Works Magisterial Dist., Page Co., VA]; (both parents also b. VA) [John M. Gwin Note: Doug told me in Oct 2007 that Branch is definitely his grandfather whom he knew and remembered well, that he was born in VA but raised in KY--near Lexington, he thought (Doug visited there when he was a small boy--and that his (Doug's) dad was born in a place called "Tuckaho", VA, near Charlottesville. Doug didn't know how to spell it, but he heard his dad pronounce it many times /TUCK-uh-HOE/.]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. ca. 1885 (reports 25 yrs. of m. in 1910) to Maggie L. (nee unk., b. ca. Aug 1866 [age 43 in 29 Apr 1910 census of Shenandoah Iron Works Magisterial Dist., Page Co., VA; [age 33 in the 7 Jun 1900 census of Shenandoah Iron Works, Page Co., VA]; (reports both parents also b. VA); d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. ca. 1885 (reports 25 yrs. of m. in 1910)]; d. unk.; bd. unk.); reports in 1910 that 5 ch. b., 3 still lvg.

26.01--John P. Douglas, b. ca. 1890 in VA [age 10 in the 7 Jun 1900 census of Shenandoah Iron Works, Page Co., VA]; [John M. Gwin Note: Doug told me in Oct 2007 that his dad's brother John got killed in a train accident at a young age, so this must be he.]

26.02--James L. Douglas, b. 1 May 1893 in VA [age 7 in the 7 Jun 1900 census of Shenandoah Iron Works, Page Co., VA]; [age 17 in 29 Apr 1910 census of Shenandoah Iron Works Magisterial Dist., Page Co., VA]; [age 26 in 2 Jan 1920 census of Shenandoah, Page Co., VA; occ. steam railroad laborer]; [age 36 in 4 Apr 1930 census of Shenandoah Iron Works Dist., Page Co., VA; occ. steam railroad brakeman]; m. ca. 1918 to Mary C. Heatwole (b. 3 Dec 1900 in VA, d/o Amos Heatwole [age 18 in 2 Jan 1920 census of Shenandoah, Page Co., VA]; [age 29 in 4 Apr 1930 census of Shenandoah Iron Works Dist., Page Co., VA])

27.01--Olive Lucille Douglas, b. ca. 1919 [age 11 in 4 Apr 1930 census of Shenandoah Iron Works Dist., Page Co., VA]; m. William Middleton;

27.02--Roslyn Elwood "Doug" Douglas, b. 18 Dec 1921 [age 8 in 4 Apr 1930 census of Shenandoah Iron Works Dist., Page Co., VA]; m. Dorothy J. Hartsell (b. 31 May 1920, d/o Dale Milburn Hartsell {b. 26 Nov 1890; d. unk.} and Rhoda Lucretia Hartsell {b. 28 Jun 1892; d. unk.});  3 ch.

28.01--Roslyn "Ron" Elwyn Douglas, b. 2 Jan 1945 in Fresno, CA; m. 17 Dec 1966 to Kathleen Elizabeth Manning;

29.01--Erik Wayne Douglas, b. 25 Jan 1968 in Colo. Spgs., CO; m.

29.02--Mark A. Douglas, b. 2 Apr. 1970 in San Bernardino, CA; m.

29.03--Bryan S. Douglas, b. 1 Oct 1974 in Upland, CA; m.

28.02--Stacey Leigh Douglas, b. 24 Sep 1952 in Fresno, CA; m. 26 Jun 1982 to Janet Miller; no ch.;

28.03--Gordon Alan Douglas, b. 11 Dec 1955 in CA; is Pastor of Family Ministries at First Evangelical Free Church in Las Cruces, NM; m. 20 Aug 1977 in CA to Kathleen "Kathy" Louise Brown, (b. 27 Aug 1953 in Long Beach, LA Co., CA, d/o George Brown and Joanne Shaw; is a registered nurse and lactation consultant in Las Cruces, NM); 4 children

29.01--Kara Marie Douglas, b. 28 Jan 1981 in Lake Forest, IL; m. 9 Jun 2006 at the Farm and Ranch Museum in Las Cruces, NM, to Jeremiah "Jeremy" Scott Gwin (b. 3 Oct 1978 in Las Cruces, NM; civil engineer with Parsons-Brinckerhoff in Albuquerque); she is a student at the UNM School of Medicine;

29.02--Jessica Anne Douglas, b. 15 Aug 1984 in Fresno, CA;

29.03--Elisabeth "Beth" Danielle Douglas, b. 29 May 1987 in Visalia, CA;

29.04--Rebecca Carey Douglas, b. 3 May 1989 in Visalia, CA;

27.03--Joyce Elizabeth Douglas, b. ca. 1923 [age 5 in 4 Apr 1930 census of Shenandoah Iron Works Dist., Page Co., VA]; m. Carl McAndrews;

26.03--Emma C. Douglas, b. ca. 1895 in VA [age 5 in the 7 Jun 1900 census of Shenandoah Iron Works, Page Co., VA]; [age 15 in 29 Apr 1910 census of Shenandoah Iron Works Magisterial Dist., Page Co., VA];

26.04--Thomas M. Douglas, b. ca. 1897 in VA [age 3 in the 7 Jun 1900 census of Shenandoah Iron Works, Page Co., VA]; [age 13 in 29 Apr 1910 census of Shenandoah Iron Works Magisterial Dist., Page Co., VA]; [age 23 in 2 Jan 1920 census of Shenandoah, Page Co., VA; occ. steam railroad brakeman];




Some Pertinent Douglas Family Census Data:




From the 1900 Census of Monroe Township, Greene co., VA
Res/Fam
Name
Relat
2HoH
Race/
Sex
DOB
Age
Marr.
Stat.
Yrs.
Md.
Ch.
Bn/Lvg
POB
S/F/M
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
299/301
John Douglas
head
wm
[BLANK]
89
Wd


VA/VA/VA
farmer
I believe this to be Branch's widowed father.

Mary Douglas dau
wf
[BLANK] 60
s


VA/VA/VA


Louvanni Douglas dau
wf
[BLANK] 40
s


VA/VA/VA


[BLANK] Douglas gr.son
wm
[BLANK] 16
s


VA/VA/VA

300/302
Philmore M. Douglas head
wm
[BLANK] 42
m
11

VA/VA/VA farm laborer
This would be Branch's brother.

Emma Douglas wife
wf
[BLANK] 35
m
11
8/5
VA/VA/VA


Jarrette Douglas son
wm
May 1889
11
s


VA/VA/VA


Duane Douglas dau
wf
May 1894
6
s


VA/VA/VA


Sadie R. Douglas dau
wf
[BLANK] 3
s


VA/VA/VA


Philipe Douglas son
wm
May 1898
2
s


VA/VA/VA


Pelhem Douglas dau
wf
Apr 1900
1mo.
s


VA/VA/VA


Name in 7 Jun 1900 census of Shenandoah Iron Works, Page Co., VA
Name Age
Branch L Douglas 37
Maggie L Douglas 33
John P Douglas 10
James L Douglas 7
Emma C Douglas 5
Thomas M Douglas 3


Name in 1910 census of Shenandoah, Page Co., VA Age
B L Douglas 46
Maggie L Douglas 43
James L Douglas 17
Emma C Douglas 15
Thomas L Douglas 13

Name in 1920 census of Shenandoah, Page Co., VA Age
James L Douglas 26
Mary C Douglas 18
Olive Douglas 1
Thomas Douglas 23

Name in 1930 census of Shenandoah, Page Co., VA
Age
James L Douglas 36
Mary C Douglas 29
Ollie L Douglas 11
Elwood R Douglas 8
Joyce E Douglas 5







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H E A T W O L E


This section updated
27 Jun 2008




23.00--Shem Heatwole [Sr.], b. est. 1800 (based on Elizabeth's age in 1850 census) in VA; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. ca. 1827 (based on Henry's age in 1850 census) in VA to Elizabeth (nee unk., b. ca. 1802 [age 48 in the 2 Aug 1850 census of Rockingham Co., VA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least 9 ch.

24.01--Henry Heatwole, b. ca. 1828 [age 22 in the 2 Aug 1850 census of Rockingham Co., VA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

24.02--Shem Heatwole
[Jr.], b. ca. 1830 in VA [age 29 in the 14 Jul 1860 Census of Harrisonburg P.O., Dist. No. 1, Rockingham Co., VA]; [age 50 in the 18 Jun 1880 census of Ashley Dist., Rockingham Co., VA]; d. aft. 1880; bd. unk.; m. Cathren/Catherine (nee unk., b. ca. 1839 [age 21 in the 14 Jul 1860 Census of Harrisonburg P.O., Dist. No. 1, Rockingham Co., VA]; [age 41 in the 18 Jun 1880 census of Ashley Dist., Rockingham Co., VA]; [age 61 in the 11 Jun 1900 census of Central Pct., Rockingham Co., VA] d. aft. 1880; bd. unk.); at least 11 ch.

25.01--Rebecka S. Heatwole, dau, b. ca. 1856 in VA [age 4 in the 14 Jul 1860 Census of Harrisonburg P.O., Dist. No. 1, Rockingham Co., VA]; [age 24 in the 18 Jun 1880 census of Ashley Dist., Rockingham Co., VA];

25.02--Mary C. Heatwole, dau, b. ca. 1858 in VA [age 2 in the 14 Jul 1860 Census of Harrisonburg P.O., Dist. No. 1, Rockingham Co., VA]; [age 22 in the 18 Jun 1880 census of Ashley Dist., Rockingham Co., VA];

25.03--Elizabeth L. Heatwole, dau, b. ca. 1859 in VA [age 1 in the 14 Jul 1860 Census of Harrisonburg P.O., Dist. No. 1, Rockingham Co., VA]; [age 21 in the 18 Jun 1880 census of Ashley Dist., Rockingham Co., VA];

25.04--Ernestine M. Heatwole, dau, b. ca. 1861 in VA [age 19 in the 18 Jun 1880 census of Ashley Dist., Rockingham Co., VA];

25.05--John B. Heatwole, son, b. ca. 1864 in VA [age 16 in the 18 Jun 1880 census of Ashley Dist., Rockingham Co., VA];

25.06--Charles _ Heatwole, son, b. ca. 1866 in VA [age 14 in the 18 Jun 1880 census of Ashley Dist., Rockingham Co., VA];

25.07--Virginia D. Heatwole, dau, b. ca. 1868 in VA [age 12 in the 18 Jun 1880 census of Ashley Dist., Rockingham Co., VA];

25.08--James W. Heatwole, son, b. ca. 1871 in VA [age 9 in the 18 Jun 1880 census of Ashley Dist., Rockingham Co., VA];

25.09--Octavia M. Heatwole, dau, b. ca. 1873 in VA [age 7 in the 18 Jun 1880 census of Ashley Dist., Rockingham Co., VA]; [age 26 in the 11 Jun 1900 census of Central Pct., Rockingham Co., VA];

25.10--Amos F. Heatwole
, son, b. ca. 1875 in VA [age 5 in the 18 Jun 1880 census of Ashley Dist., Rockingham Co., VA]; [age 35 in 7 May 1910 census of Central, Rockingham Co., VA] ; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. Mittie F. Chapman (b. ca. 1879 [age 31 in 7 May 1910 census of Central, Rockingham Co., VA], d/o James M. and Lizzie A. Chapman); 5 ch. (4 still lvg. in 1910--the oldest died before 1900)

26.01--(given name unk.) Heatwole, b. bef. 1900; d. bef. 1900 census; m. never; no ch.

26.02--Mary C. Heatwole
, b. 31 Dec 1900 in VA [age 9 in 7 May 1910 census of Central, Rockingham Co., VA] ; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m1. ca. 1918 to James L. Douglas (b. 1 May 1893; d. unk.; bd. unk.); 3 ch.; m2. Clyde Emerson (unk.);

27.01--Olive Douglas, b. ca. 1919 [age 11 in 4 Apr 1930 census of Shenandoah Iron Works Dist., Page Co., VA]; m. William Middleton;

27.02--Roslyn Elwood "Doug" Douglas, b. 18 Dec 1921 [age 8 in 4 Apr 1930 census of Shenandoah Iron Works Dist., Page Co., VA]; d. ; m. Dorothy J. Hartsell (b. 31 May 1920, d/o Dale Milburn Hartsell {b. 26 Nov 1890; d. unk.} and Rhoda Lucretia Hartsell {b. 28 Jun 1892; d. unk.});  3 ch.

28.01--Roslyn "Ron" Elwyn Douglas, b. 2 Jan 1945 in Fresno, CA; m. 17 Dec 1966 to Kathleen Elizabeth Manning;

29.01--Erik Wayne Douglas, b. 25 Jan 1968 in Colo. Spgs., CO; m.

29.02--Mark A. Douglas, b. 2 Apr. 1970 in San Bernardino, CA; m.

29.03--Bryan S. Douglas, b. 1 Oct 1974 in Upland, CA; m.

28.02--Stacey Leigh Douglas, b. 24 Sep 1952 in Fresno, CA; m. 26 Jun 1982 to Janet Miller; no ch.;

28.03--Gordon Alan Douglas, b. 11 Dec 1955 in CA; is Pastor of Family Ministries at First Evangelical Free Church in Las Cruces, NM; m. 20 Aug 1977 in CA to Kathleen "Kathy" Louise Brown, (b. 27 Aug 1953 in Long Beach, LA Co., CA, d/o George Brown and Joanne Shaw; is a registered nurse and lactation consultant in Las Cruces, NM); 4 children

29.01--Kara Marie Douglas, b. 28 Jan 1981 in Lake Forest, IL; m. 9 Jun 2006 at the Farm and Ranch Museum in Las Cruces, NM, to Jeremiah "Jeremy" Scott Gwin (b. 3 Oct 1978 in Las Cruces, NM; civil engineer with Parsons-Brinckerhoff in Albuquerque); she is a student at the UNM School of Medicine;

29.02--Jessica Anne Douglas, b. 15 Aug 1984 in Fresno, CA;

29.03--Elisabeth "Beth" Danielle Douglas, b. 29 May 1987 in Visalia, CA;

29.04--Rebecca Carey Douglas, b. 3 May 1989 in Visalia, CA;

26.03--James E. Heatwole, b. ca. 1904 [age 6 in 7 May 1910 census of Central, Rockingham Co., VA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.04--Samuel R. Heatwole, b. ca. 1906 [age 4 in 7 May 1910 census of Central, Rockingham Co., VA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.05--Meyra E. Heatwole, b. ca. 1909 [age 1 in 7 May 1910 census of Central, Rockingham Co., VA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.11--Samuel S. Heatwole, son, b. ca. 1877 in VA [age 3 in the 18 Jun 1880 census of Ashby Dist., Rockingham Co., VA]; ;

25.12--R. E. Heatwole, son, b. Dec 1880 in VA [age 3 in the 18 Jun 1880 census of Ashby Dist., Rockingham Co., VA]; ; [age 19 in the 11 Jun 1900 census of Central Pct., Rockingham Co., VA];

24.03--Rebecca Heatwole, b. ca. 1832 [age 18 in the 2 Aug 1850 census of Rockingham Co., VA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

24.04--Ann Heatwole, b. ca. 1834
[age 16 in the 2 Aug 1850 census of Rockingham Co., VA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

24.05--David Heatwole, b. ca. 1836
[age 14 in the 2 Aug 1850 census of Rockingham Co., VA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

24.06--Gabriel Heatwole, twin, b. ca. 1841
[age 9 in the 2 Aug 1850 census of Rockingham Co., VA, listed as "twins"]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

24.07--Elizabeth Heatwole, twin, b. ca. 1841
[age 9 in the 2 Aug 1850 census of Rockingham Co., VA, listed as "twins"]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

24.08--Jacob Heatwole, b. ca. 1843
[age 7 in the 2 Aug 1850 census of Rockingham Co., VA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

24.09--Martin Heatwole, b. ca. 1846
[age 4 in the 2 Aug 1850 census of Rockingham Co., VA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.



Some Pertinent Heatwole Family Census Data:

From the 1840 Census of Rockingham Co., VA
[Numbers
assigned
by JMG]
NAMES
OF
HEADS OF FAMILIES
 0
-5
 5
-10
 10
-15
 15
-20
 20
-30
 30
-40
 40
-50
 50
-60
 60
-70
 70
-80
80
-90
 90
-100
100
&c
 0
-5
 5
-10
 10
-15
 15
-20
 20
-30
 30
-40
 40
-50
50
-60
 60
-70
70
-80
80
-90
  90
-100
100
&c




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Shem Heatwool (sic--Heatwole)
2
1
2
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1
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2
2
1
.
1
1
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John Gwin's speculation as to who these numbers represent:     --->
David,
[unk.] or
Gabriel

(the twin)
[unk]
Henry,
Shem Jr.

Shem Sr.








[unk.] &
[unk.] or
Elizabeth
(the twin)
Rebecca,
Ann
[unk.]

Elizabeth
[unk.]
(Elizabeth's
mother?)









From the 2 Aug 1850 Census of Rockingham Co., VA
Res/Fam
Name
Sex
DOB
[est.]
Age
Real
E$t.
POB
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
443/446
Shem Heatwole
m
est. 1800
[BLANK]
7500
VA
farmer


Elizabeth
f
1802
48

VA



Henry
m
1828
22

VA laborer


Shem
m
1830
20

VA laborer
I believe this is our Shem, husband of Catherine and father of Amos. His age fits and his location fits; further, how many Shem Heatwoles can there be who match up like that? SO, IF this is he--and I'm convinced it is--we just opened up another generation! By the way, Ancestry.com mistranscribed his first name as "Shew".

Rebecca
f
1832
18

VA


Ann
f
1834
16

VA


David
m
1836
14

VA


Gabriel
m
1841
9

VA
Gabriel and Elizabeth are listed as "twins".

Elizabeth
f
1841
9

VA
Gabriel and Elizabeth are listed as "twins".

Jacob
m
1843
7

VA


Martin
m
1846
4

VA


Emanuel Suters
m
1833
17

VA


From the 14 Jul 1860 Census of Harrisonburg P.O., Dist. No. 1, Rockingham Co., VA
Res/Fam
Name
Sex
DOB
[est.]
Age
Real
E$t.
POB
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
1022/991
Shem Heatwole
m
1831
29
2000
VA
Farmer
We learn here that his first name is Shem. The names and ages of his family confirm that this is Kara's ggg-grandfather. Finding him here led us to him again in 1850 where we learn that his father's name is Shem as well; therefore, we'll call this one Shem Junior and his father Shem Senior.

Catherine Heatwole f
1839
21

VA



Rebecca Heatwole f
1856
4

VA



Mary Heatwole f
1858
2

VA



Elizabeth Heatwole f
1859
1

VA



John Frank(um?)
m
1842
18

VA




From the 18 Jun 1880 Census of Ashby Dist., Rockingham Co., VA
Res/Fam
Name
Relat.
2HoH
Sex
DOB
[est.]
Age
Marr.
Stat.
POB
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
295/307
S. Heatwole
head
m
1830
50
m
VA/VA/VA carpinter
This is the father of Amos F., from whom our line descends. As you can see from "carpinter", this enumerator doesn't spell well, so we can take the spellings of the various names with a grain of salt as well.

Cathren Heatwole wife
f
1839
41
m
VA/VA/VA


Rebecka S. Heatwole dau
f
1856
24
s
VA/VA/VA


Mary C. Heatwole dau f
1858
22
s
VA/VA/VA at home


Elizabeth L. Heatwole dau f
1859 21
s
VA/VA/VA at home


Ernestine M. Heatwole dau f
1861 19
s
VA/VA/VA


John B. Heatwole son
m
1864 16
s
VA/VA/VA


Charls. (m. i. illeg.) Heatwole son m
1866 14
s
VA/VA/VA


Virginia D. Heatwole dau f
1868 12
s
VA/VA/VA


James N. Heatwole son m
1871 9
s
VA/VA/VA


Octavia M. Heatwole dau f
1873 7
s
VA/VA/VA


Amos F. Heatwole son m
1875 5
s
VA/VA/VA
This is "Doug" Douglas' great-grandfather.

Saml. S. Heatwole son m
1877 3
s
VA/VA/VA


From the 11 Jun 1900 Census of Central Twp., Rockingham Co., VA

Res/Fam
Name
Relat
2HoH
Race/
Sex
DOB
Age
Marr.
Stat./
Yrs.Md.
Ch.Bn./
Ch.Lvg.
POB
S/F/M
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
106/109
James M. Chapman
head
wm
Sep 1841
58
m/22

VA/VA/VA farmer
Mistranscribed as Chapinan by Ancestry.com.

Lizzie A. Chapman wife
wf
Jun 1843
56
m/22
4/4
VA/VA/VA


Samuel L. Chapman son
wm
Mar 1881
19
s

VA/VA/VA


Blanch M. Chapman daughter
wf
Jun 1887
13
s

VA/VA/VA


Maud J. Chapman daughter
wf
May 1889
11
s

VA/VA/VA


Mittie Heatwole
daughter
wf
Apr 1879
21
m/3
1/0
VA/VA/VA boarder
Mistranscribed as "Mittie Heatwole Chapinan" by Ancestry.com.  But now we know her maiden name and have thus accessed another of Kara's lines: the Chapmans!

Amos Heatwole
son-in-law
wm
Sep 1875
24
m/3

VA/VA/VA boarder
This is "Doug" Douglas' great-grandfather, mistranscribed as "Amos Heatwole Chapinan" by Ancestry.com. No wonder we couldn't find him! What I finally did was look at all the Amoses (I left the last name box empty) in the entire census of Central District in Rockingham Co., VA, and there he was. OK, that doesn't, however, explain why I haven't been able to find any of his siblings or parents, so I'll keep looking.

From the 11 Jun 1900 Census of Ottobine Prct., Rockingham Co., VA
Res/Fam
Name
Relat
2HoH
Race/
Sex
DOB
Age
Marr.
Stat./
Yrs.Md.
Ch.Bn./
Ch.Lvg.
POB
S/F/M
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
141/144
Cathern Heatwole
head

Jan 1839
61
Wd.
13/7
VA/VA/VA
This is our Catherine (sp unk.), alright. Now we know how many kids they had and how many are still alive.

Octavia M. Heatwole
daughter

Sep 1872
27
m/1

VA/VA/VA
Hm. She is listed first and as having the last name Heatwole, but I believe that she is married to William Wise and that the child listed as his is hers as well.

William Wise
son-in-law

Nov 1873
26
m/1
1/1
VA/VA/VA farmer


R. E. Heatwole
son

Dec 1880
19
s

VA/VA/VA at school
Aha, a heretofore unknown (by us) sibling of Amos: Uncle R. E.! Perhaps we'll discover his names in 1910, '20, or '30.
139/141
Gabrel Heatwole







My transcription is incomplete--there are 3 more people in this household, whom I believe to be Gabriel's daughter and her family. Being two doors down from Cathern, I feel quite strongly that they are related; perhaps Gabriel and Cathern's deceased husband were brothers.

Eliza Heatwole









Clifford Heatwole








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From the 14-15 Jan 1920 Census of Central District, Reesfatown Pct., Rockingham Co., VA
Res/Fam
Name
Relat
2HoH
Race/
Sex
Est.
DOB
Age
Marr.
Stat./
Yrs.Md.
POB
S/F/M
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
Mountain Valley Rd.
FM/173/176
Amos F. Heatwole
head
wm
1875
45
m
VA/VA/VA
general farm farmer
This is our Amos and his family in 1920.  He and his wife are two of my daughter (in-law) Kara's gg-grandparents.

M. Icadora Heatwole wife
wf
1880
40
m
VA/VA/VA
Her first name is Mittie, according to the 1900 census, above.  So now we know her middle name as well.

James E. Heatwole son
wm
1904
16
s
VA/VA/VA


Samuel R. Heatwole son
wm
1907
13
s
VA/VA/VA


Mura E. Heatwole daughter
wf
1909
11
s
VA/VA/VA


Glenn C. Heatwole son
wm
1912
8
s
VA/VA/VA


Elizabeth Chapman
mother-in law
wf
1845
75
wd
VA/VA/VA









C H A P M A N


Section Started 27 Jun 2008


24.00--James M. Chapman, b. Sep 1841 [age 58 in the 11 Jun 1900 census of Central Pct., Rockingham Co., VA]; ; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. Lizzie A. (nee unk., b. Jun 1843 [age 56 in the 11 Jun 1900 census of Central Pct., Rockingham Co., VA]; ; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least  ch.

25.01--
Mittie F. Chapman, b. Apr 1879 [age 21 in the 11 Jun 1900 census of Central Pct., Rockingham Co., VA]; [age 31 in 7 May 1910 census of Central, Rockingham Co., VA]; m.  Amos F. Heatwole (b. Sep 1875 in VA [age 5 in the 18 Jun 1880 census of Ashley Dist., Rockingham Co., VA]; [age 24 in the 11 Jun 1900 census of Central Pct., Rockingham Co., VA]; [age 35 in 7 May 1910 census of Central, Rockingham Co., VA] ; d. unk.; bd. unk.); 5 ch. (4 still lvg. in 1910--the oldest died before 1900)

26.01--(given name unk.) Heatwole, b. bef. 1900; d. bef. 1900 census; m. never; no ch.

26.02--Mary C. Heatwole
, b. 31 Dec 1900 in VA [age 9 in 7 May 1910 census of Central, Rockingham Co., VA] ; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m1. ca. 1918 to James L. Douglas (b. 1 May 1893; d. unk.; bd. unk.); 3 ch.; m2. Clyde Emerson (unk.);

27.01--Olive Douglas, b. ca. 1919 [age 11 in 4 Apr 1930 census of Shenandoah Iron Works Dist., Page Co., VA]; m. William Middleton;

27.02--Roslyn Elwood "Doug" Douglas, b. 18 Dec 1921 [age 8 in 4 Apr 1930 census of Shenandoah Iron Works Dist., Page Co., VA]; d. ; m. Dorothy J. Hartsell (b. 31 May 1920, d/o Dale Milburn Hartsell {b. 26 Nov 1890; d. unk.} and Rhoda Lucretia Hartsell {b. 28 Jun 1892; d. unk.});  3 ch.

28.01--Roslyn "Ron" Elwyn Douglas, b. 2 Jan 1945 in Fresno, CA; d. 2009 in TX; m. 17 Dec 1966 to Kathleen Elizabeth Manning;

29.01--Erik Wayne Douglas, b. 25 Jan 1968 in Colo. Spgs., CO; m.

29.02--Mark A. Douglas, b. 2 Apr. 1970 in San Bernardino, CA; m.

29.03--Bryan S. Douglas, b. 1 Oct 1974 in Upland, CA; m.

28.02--Stacey Leigh Douglas, b. 24 Sep 1952 in Fresno, CA; m. 26 Jun 1982 to Janet Miller; no ch.;

28.03--Gordon Alan Douglas, b. 11 Dec 1955 in CA; is Pastor of Family Ministries at First Evangelical Free Church in Las Cruces, NM; m. 20 Aug 1977 in CA to Kathleen "Kathy" Louise Brown, (b. 27 Aug 1953 in Long Beach, LA Co., CA, d/o George Brown and Joanne Shaw; is a registered nurse and lactation consultant in Las Cruces, NM); 4 children

29.01--Kara Marie Douglas, M. D., b. 28 Jan 1981 in Lake Forest, IL; m. 9 Jun 2006 at the Farm and Ranch Museum in Las Cruces, NM, by Pastor John H. Powell, to Jeremiah "Jeremy" Scott Gwin (b. 3 Oct 1978 in Las Cruces, NM; civil engineer with Parsons-Brinckerhoff in Albuquerque and residing in El Paso, TX; she is a graduate of the UNM School of Medicine doing her residency in El Paso, TX;

29.02--Jessica Anne Douglas, b. 15 Aug 1984 in Fresno, CA;

29.03--Elisabeth "Beth" Danielle Douglas, b. 29 May 1987 in Visalia, CA;

29.04--Rebecca Carey Douglas, b. 3 May 1989 in Visalia, CA;

25.02--Samuel L. Chapman, b. Mar 1881 [age 19 in the 11 Jun 1900 census of Central Pct., Rockingham Co., VA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.03--Blanch M. Chapman, b. Jun 1887 [age 13 in the 11 Jun 1900 census of Central Pct., Rockingham Co., VA]
; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.04--Maud J. Chapman, b. May 1889 [age 11 in the 11 Jun 1900 census of Central Pct., Rockingham Co., VA]
; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.


Some Pertinent Chapman Family Census Data:


From the 11 Jun 1900 Census of Central Twp., Rockingham Co., VA
Res/Fam
Name
Relat
2HoH
Race/
Sex
DOB
Age
Marr.
Stat./
Yrs.Md.
Ch.Bn./
Ch.Lvg.
POB
S/F/M
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
106/109
James M. Chapman
head
wm
Sep 1841
58
m/22

VA/VA/VA farmer
Mistranscribed as Chapinan by Ancestry.com.

Lizzie A. Chapman wife
wf
Jun 1843
56
m/22
4/4
VA/VA/VA


Samuel L. Chapman son
wm
Mar 1881
19
s

VA/VA/VA


Blanch M. Chapman daughter
wf
Jun 1887
13
s

VA/VA/VA


Maud J. Chapman daughter
wf
May 1889
11
s

VA/VA/VA


Mittie Heatwole
daughter
wf
Apr 1879
21
m/3
1/0
VA/VA/VA boarder
Mistranscribed as "Mittie Heatwole Chapinan" by Ancestry.com.  But now we know her maiden name and have thus accessed another of Kara's lines: the Chapmans!

Amos Heatwole
son-in-law
wm
Sep 1875
24
m/3

VA/VA/VA boarder
This is "Doug" Douglas' great-grandfather, mistranscribed as "Amos Heatwole Chapinan" by Ancestry.com. No wonder we couldn't find him! What I finally did was look at all the Amoses (I left the last name box empty) in the entire census of Central District in Rockingham Co., VA, and there he was. OK, that doesn't, however, explain why I haven't been able to find any of his siblings or parents, so I'll keep looking.

From the 14-15 Jan 1920 Census of Central District, Reesfatown Pct., Rockingham Co., VA
Res/Fam
Name
Relat
2HoH
Race/
Sex
Est.
DOB
Age
Marr.
Stat./
Yrs.Md.
POB
S/F/M
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
Mountain Valley Rd.
FM/173/176
Amos F. Heatwole
head
wm
1875
45
m
VA/VA/VA
general farm farmer
This is our Amos and his family in 1920.  He and his wife are two of my daughter (in-law) Kara's gg-grandparents.

M. Icadora Heatwole wife
wf
1880
40
m
VA/VA/VA
Her first name is Mittie, according to the 1900 census, above.  So now we know her middle name as well.

James E. Heatwole son
wm
1904
16
s
VA/VA/VA


Samuel R. Heatwole son
wm
1907
13
s
VA/VA/VA


Mura E. Heatwole daughter
wf
1909
11
s
VA/VA/VA


Glenn C. Heatwole son
wm
1912
8
s
VA/VA/VA


Elizabeth Chapman
mother-in law
wf
1845
75
wd
VA/VA/VA














H A R T S E L L


Research: Order of Battle

01. We started this Hartsell line with Gordon's mom, 27.02--Dorothy Jean Hartsell.

02. Her father was 26.02--Dale Milburn Hartsell, both of whom show up in the 1930 census in Fresno, CA.
03. Dale was also located in the 1920, 1910, and 1900 censuses of Cocke Co., TN.
04. When Dale appeared in the 1900 census, he was living with his parents, 25.02--William Brownlow Hartsell (age 36) and his wife Josephine.
05. The jump to 1880 presented a problem, as Will and Jo were not yet married, so we had to depend on age and location.
06. Nevertheless, there was only one William Hartsell living in Cocke Co., TN, who was age 16 in 1880: the son of 24.0--John Harrison Hartsell.
07. For 1900, a John Hartsell was the right age, living in the right place, with the right wife, and with two of the right children (only one of whose ages is right, however).
08. We uncovered John again in 1870, and again all the names of people and places aligned themselves with those in the other censuses.
09. This led us to John again--this time in 1850--with all his siblings to date and his parents: 23.0--Abraham Hartsell and wife Rebeca.

10. Then on 29 Apr 2007, Kathy Douglas loaned me the Hartsell book--The Hartsell Connection by Larry D. and Magdalene E. Fox (who attribute much of this work to the research of Mrs. Edith Richardson of Gainesville, GA, a Hartsell descendant)--that belongs to her Aunt Lorraine Smith (who had mailed it to Kathy and Gordon).
Information I've gleaned exclusively from this work appears below in this purple color.  It is far too extensive for me to copy in its entirety here, however. Aunt Lorraine, I promise to be very careful with it--thanks for sending it! I've already read through quite a bit of it and have seen that it corresponds almost perfectly with what I have already found out as listed above. I plan to make a copy of it and give it back to Kathy as quickly as possible.
John Gwin





21.00--Abraham Hartzell, b. ; m. ca. 1775 in PA to Hannah Anthony (b.; d. 1841)

22.01--Abraham Hartzell [II], b. 21 Apr 1777; d. 17 Jul 1858;
22.02--Isaac Hartzell, b. 1783; d. late 1863;
22.03--Jacob Tayler Hartzell, b. 1786; d. 2 May 1843;
22.04--Sarah Hartzell, b. 12 Aug 1789; d. 19 Aug 1861;
22.05--Delilah Hartzell, b. ca. 1794;



21.00--Abraham Hartzell, b. ; m. ca. 1775 in PA to Hannah Anthony (b.; d. 1841)



22.01--Abraham Hartzell [II], b. 21 Apr 1777 in NC; d. 17 Jul 1858; bd. Clover Hill Cem., Blount Co., TN; innkeeper, merchant; m. Mary "Polly" Norton (b. 1782 in NC {later TN}; d. 7 Sep 1864; bd. Clover Hill Cem., Blount Co., TN); 11 ch.:

23.01--Delilah Hartsell, b. 23 Mar 1804; d. 15 Dec 1886;
23.02--Hyram Hartsell, b. 2 Mar 1807; d. 19 Nov 1892;
23.03--Hannah Hartsell, b. 8 May 1809; 30 Oct 1871;
23.04--Abraham Hartsell, Jr., b. ca. 1810; d. ca. 1899
23.05--Mary Ann Hartsell, b. ca. 1813; d. ca. 1881;
23.06--Paul Anthony Hartsell, b. 21 Feb 1816; d. 17 Dec 1897;
23.07--Nancy Singleton Hartsell, b. 8 Aug 1820; d. 21 Jul 1899;
23.08--Sarah Jane Hartsell, b. ca. 1820; d. unk.;
23.09--William T. Hartsell, b. ca. 1823; d. unk.;
23.10--Ruth Hartsell, b. ca. 1826; d. unk.;
23.11--Abner Lawson Hartsell, b.12 May 1828; d. 25 Aug 1912;

The following was copied from Tim and Kamy Rayburn Gamble's work submitted to the
Tennessee Tombstone Transcription Project located at
http://ftp.rootsweb.ancestry.com/pub/usgenweb/tn/blount/cemeteries/clvrhll.txt :


BLOUNT COUNTY, TN - CEMETERIES - Clover Hill Presbyterian Church Cemetery (partial)
Clover Hill Presby. Ch. (estab. 1894) and cem. are located approx. 5 mi. so. of Maryville, TN.
Heartsill, Abraham 	  1777	           No Date	
Heartsill, Mary 1782 "Sept. 7, 1864" Wife of Abraham Heartsill

23.01--Delilah Hartsell, b. 23 Mar 1804; d. 15 Dec 1886; m. 10 Nov 1820 in Monroe Co., TN, to George Washington Madden ()

23.02--Hyram Hartsell, b. 2 Mar 1807; d. 19 Nov 1892;
23.03--Hannah Hartsell, b. 8 May 1809; 30 Oct 1871;
23.04--Abraham Hartsell, Jr., b. ca. 1810 [age 40, in 1850 census of Cocke Co., TN; occ., blacksmith], w/son John b. ca. 1840; d. ca. 1899;

24.03--John Harrison Hartsell, b. May 1840 [age 30 in the 16 Aug 1870 census of res. 127, 10th Dist., Cocke Co., TN]; [age 40 in the 4 Jun 1880 census of 10th Dist., Lower Cosby, Cocke Co., TN; occ. blacksmith/wagonmaker]; [age 59 in the 5 Jun 1900 census of the 10th Civil Dist., Cocke Co., TN; occ. Blacksmith]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. ca. 1862 (m. 38 yrs. in 1900) Amanda Jane (nee unk., b. Oct 1843 [age 25 in the 16 Aug 1870 census of res. 127, 10th Dist., Cocke Co., TN]; [age 37 in the 4 Jun 1880 census of 10th Dist., Lower Cosby, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 56 in the 5 Jun 1900 census of the 10th Civil Dist., Cocke Co., TN; bore 6 ch., 6 still lvg in 1900]; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least 10 ch.

25.01--Martha Isadora Hartsell, b. [age 7 in the 16 Aug 1870 census of res. 127, 10th Dist., Cocke Co., TN]; [age 18 in the 4 Jun 1880 census of 10th Dist., Lower Cosby, Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.02--William Brownlow Hartsell
, b. Mar 1864 [age 6 in the 16 Aug 1870 census of res. 127, 10th Dist., Cocke Co., TN]; [age 16 in the 4 Jun 1880 census of 10th Dist., Lower Cosby, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 36 in the 18 Jun 1900 census of Civil Dist. 9, Cocke Co., TN, where he states m. 12 yrs., occ. farmer, POB TN/TN/TN]; [age 46 in the 21 Apr 1910 census of Newport, Cocke Co., TN, where he is an officer in the Sheriff's dept.]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. Josephine (nee unk., b. [age 31 in the 18 Jun 1900 census of Civil Dist. 9, Cocke Co., TN, where she states m. 12 yrs., 7 ch., 7 lvg., POB TN/TN/TN]; [age 41 in the 21 Apr 1910 census of Newport, Cocke Co., TN, where she states she has been m. 22 yrs. in her only marriage and has 12 ch., 11 of whom are still lvg.]; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least 7 ch.

26.01--Dessie Hartsell, b. Jul 1889 [age 10 in the 18 Jun 1900 census of Civil Dist. 9, Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.02--Dale Milburn Hartsell, b. 26 Nov 1890 in (Cocke Co.?) TN [age 9 in the 18 Jun 1900 census of Civil Dist. 9, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 20 in the 21 Apr 1910 census of Newport, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 29 in the 15 Jan 1920 census of Sardis, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 38 in the 30 Apr 1930 census of Township 3, Fresno Co., CA]; d. 1968; m. 8 Jan 1911 to Rhoda Lucretia Templin (b. 28 Jun 1892 [age 27 in the 15 Jan 1920 census of Sardis, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 37 in the 30 Apr 1930 census of Township 3, Fresno Co., CA]; d. unk.)

27.01--Wilma R. Hartsell, dau., b. ca. Jan 1918 [age 2 yrs., 0 mo. in the 15 Jan 1920 census of Sardis, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 12 in the 30 Apr 1930 census of Township 3, Fresno Co., CA]; d. unk.; m. Paul Walker (b. unk.; d. unk.); 1 ch.

28.01--Paul Walker, Jr., b. ca. 10 Oct 1952; d. 16 Mar 2002; m. Carol (nee unk.; b. unk.; d. unk.); 1 ch.

29.01--Ashley Rosalee Walker, b. 1 Mar 1993
 
27.02--Dorothy Jean Hartsell, b. 31 May 1920; [age 9 in the 30 Apr 1930 census of Township 3, Fresno Co., CA] m. Roslyn Elwyn Douglas (b. 18 Dec 1921; d. ); 3 ch.

28.01--Roslyn "Ron" Elwyn Douglas, b. 2 Jan 1945 in Fresno, CA; d. Sep 2009; m. 17 Dec 1966 to Kathleen Elizabeth Manning;

29.01--Erik Wayne Douglas, b. 25 Jan 1968 in Colo. Spgs., CO; m.

29.02--Mark A. Douglas, b. 2 Apr. 1970 in San Bernardino, CA; m.

29.03--Bryan S. Douglas, b. 1 Oct 1974 in Upland, CA; m.

28.02--Stacey Leigh Douglas, b. 24 Sep 1952 in Fresno, CA; m. 26 Jun 1982 to Janet Miller; no ch.;

28.03--Gordon Alan Douglas, b. 11 Dec 1955 in CA; is Pastor of Family Ministries at First Evangelical Free Church in Las Cruces, NM; m. 20 Aug 1977 in CA to Kathleen "Kathy" Louise Brown, (b. 27 Aug 1953 in Long Beach, LA Co., CA, d/o George Brown and Joanne Shaw; is a registered nurse and lactation consultant in Las Cruces, NM); 4 ch.

29.01--Kara Marie Douglas, b. 28 Jan 1981 in Lake Forest, IL; m. 9 Jun 2006 at the Farm and Ranch Museum in Las Cruces, NM, to Jeremiah "Jeremy" Scott Gwin (b. 3 Oct 1978 in Las Cruces, NM; civil engineer with Parsons-Brinckerhoff in Albuquerque); she is a student at the UNM School of Medicine;

29.02--Jessica Anne Douglas, b. 15 Aug 1984 in Fresno, CA; teaches school in California

29.03--Elisabeth "Beth" Danielle Douglas, b. 29 May 1987 in Visalia, CA; in college

29.04--Rebecca Carey Douglas, b. 3 May 1989 in Visalia, CA; in college

27.03--Paul Hartsell, b. ca. 1923; [age 7 in the 30 Apr 1930 census of Township 3, Fresno Co., CA];

27.04--Jaanila* Juanita Hartsell, b. ca. Oct 1925 [age 4 yrs., 6 mo.  in the 30 Apr 1930 census of Township 3, Fresno Co., CA]; d. 14 Mar 2002; m. James Norvell (b. 26 Sep 1921; d. 26 Nov 1989); 3 ch.

28.01--Pam Norvell, b. 16 Jun 1946; m. Butch Schuler (b. unk.; d. unk.); 1 ch.; div.;

29.01--Sherri Lynne Schuler, b. 1 Jan 1967; m. Kurt Smith (b. unk.; d. unk.); 1 ch.;

30.01--Madison Ann Smith, b. 20 Apr 1999;

28.02--Vicki Norvell, b.12 Jun 1951; m. Don Doran (b. unk.; d. unk.); 1 ch.; div.;

29.01--Kelly-Anne Doran, b. 12 Aug (yr. unk.); m. Damon Arnett (b. unk.; d. unk.); 2 ch.;

30.00--Nathaniel Arnett, b. unk.;
30.00--William Arnett, b. unk.;

28.03--Steve Norvell, b. 7 Feb 1962; m. 20 May 2000 to Tina Carson (b. unk.); 2 ch.;

29.01--Sierra Lynne Norvell, b. 20 Nov 2000
29.02--Spencer James Norvell, b. 18 Mar 2002
6-29-07

John-
I did forget some more cousins:
Loren Hartsell married Dolores (?)
Daughters:
    Karen (Hartsell) Spooner Married Dennis Spooner, since divorced
        Sons:
            Joshua
            Garret
    Loren(Rannie) (Hartsell) Matula married Mike Matula since
divorced
        Children:
            Nicholas
            Felicia
Unfortunately I do not dates for any of these relatives
Just wanted to get you some more info I didn't think you had.
Steve

*


Above:
Photocopy of the 1930 census taker's rendering of Juanita's name

[John M. Gwin Note: Kathy Douglas emailed me regarding the spelling of "Jaanila": I think that "Jaanila" must have come from illegible handwriting.  If the person was writing "Juanita" and the "u" looked more like an "a", and the "t" wasn't crossed, then it would look like "Jaanila." Until then, neither of us had looked at the original record, only at Ancestry.com's mistranscription of it (above, right). At left is this original. Of course it is Juanita, and she already knew that Gordon's aunt is Juanita, not Jaanila, but I think we have a sleuth here, folks! This is the type of thinking one has to do all the time in this hobby. Do you think Kathy has been bitten by the genealogy bug?   (:-)

27.05--Loren Hartsell, b. ca. Nov 1928 (twin) [age 1 yr., 5 mo. in the 30 Apr 1930 census of Township 3, Fresno Co., CA];

27.06--Lorraine Mae Hartsell, b. ca. Nov 1928 (twin) [age 1 yr., 5 mo. in the 30 Apr 1930 census of Township 3, Fresno Co., CA]; m. Dean Smith (b. unk.; d. unk.) pictured at right in Dec 1978; 2 ch.;

Home on 21 Aug 1850 to the family of 3.0 Abraham Hartsell: Dist. 11, Cocke Co., TN
Name Age
Abhm Hartsell
40
Rebeca Hartsell 36
William Hartsell 13
Charles Hartsell 11
John Hartsell 9
Violet Hartsell 7
Brounlow Hartsell 4
Isaac Hartsell 1

Home in 1880 to the family of 4.0 John H.  Hartsell: Newport P.O.,
Lower Cosby, Cocke Co., TN
Name Age
J. H. Hartsell 40
Manda Jane Hartsell 37
Martha Isadore Hartsell 18
William Brownlee Hartsell 16
James A. Hartsell 14
Rebecca Susan Hartsell 13
Mariah C. Hartsell 11
Mary Jane Hartsell 9
Julia Floris Hartsell 7
John H. Hartsell 5
Amanda C. Hartsell 3
Charles C. Hartsell 1

Home in 1910 to the family of 5.02--Wm. Hartsell: Newport, Cocke Co., TN
Name
Age
William Hartaild 46
Josephine Harttaild 41
Dale M Hartaild 20
Francis Hartaild 19
Della May Hartaild 16
Dicie Hartaild 15
McKinley Hartaild 13
Girtila Hartaild 11
Ernest Hartaild 8
Hollice Hartaild 5
Myrtle Hartaild 3
William Hartaild Jr 0



Home on 16 Aug 1870 to the family of 4.0 John H.  Hartsell: Newport P.O.,
Dist. 10, Cocke Co., TN
Name Age
John Hartsell 30
Amanda J. Hartsell 25
Martha Hartsell 7
William Hartsell 6
James Hartsell 4
Susan Hartsell 3
Manerva Hartsell 1

Home in 1900 to the family of 4.0 John H.  Hartsell:


10th Civil District, Cocke Co., TN
Name
Age
John Hartsell 59
Maudy J Hartsell 56
Manervy C Hartsell 30
Julia Hartsell 25
John H Hartsell 24
Charles C Hartsell 27
Oscar L Hartsell 18
Low V Hartsell 2

Home in 1900 to the family of 5.02--Wm. Hartsell: Civil Distr. 9, Cocke, TN
Name Age
William Hartsell 36
Josephine Hartsell 31
Dessie Hartsell 10
Dail M Hartsell 9
Francis H Hartsell 8
Delia M Hartsell 6
Dissie J Hartsell 5
McKinley Hartsell 3
Millie Hartsell 1

Names in the 15 Jan 1920 census of 5th Dist., Sardis Precinct, Cocke Co., TN Age
Dale M Hartsell 29
Rhoda L Hartsell 27
Wilmer R Hartsell 2

Names in the 30 Apr 1930 census of Township 3, Fresno Co., CA Age
Dale M Hartsell 38
Rhoda L Hartsell 37
Wilma R Hartsell 12
Dorothy J Hartsell 9
Paul Hartsell 7
Jaanila Hartsell 4 6/12
Loren Hartsell 1 5/12
Loraine Hartsell 1 5/12


Right: Dean and
Lorraine Smith

Dec 1978



Left, Bill and Marta Smith with
Brian and Mike


28.01--Robert Eugene "Bob" Smith, b. unk. d. 3 Jul 2006;

GOOD MORNING JOHN,  I SEE YOU HAVE NOTHING ABOUT OUR SON BOB AND HIS FAMILY.  MARRIED TWICE AND IT SHOULD BE IN THE FAMILY BOOK STARTING WITH PAGE 57 [ DALE HARTSELL].  HOPE YOU FIND IT AND UP DATE IT, THANKS, LORRAINE

28.02--William "Bill" Smith, b. unk.; m. ca. 1975 to Marta (nee unk., b. unk. d. unk.)

29.01--Michael "Mike" Smith, b. 23 Sep 1973 ; m. unk. date/place to Melissa (nee unk., b. 1 Sep 1977); 2 ch.

30.01--Samantha Smith, b. 27 May 1998;

30.02--Taylor Smith, dau, b. 27 Dec 2000;

29.02--Brian Joseph Smith, b. 29 Apr 1977; m. 10 Jan 1998 in La Mesa, CA, to Tammy Ann Griswold (b. unk.; d. unk.); 3 ch.

30.01--Brian Joseph Smith, Jr., b. 2 Oct 2000 in San Diego, CA;

30.02--Austin Alan Smith, b. 11 Apr 2003 in San Diego, CA;

30.03--Trevor Andrew Smith, b. 28 May 2006 in San Diego, CA;

29.03--Tamara Smith, b. 1 Apr 1981

26.03--Francis H. Hartsell, son, b. May 1892 [age 8 in the 18 Jun 1900 census of Civil Dist. 9, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 19 in the 21 Apr 1910 census of Newport, Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.04--Delia "Della" May Hartsell, dau, b. Nov 1893 [age 6 in the 18 Jun 1900 census of Civil Dist. 9, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 16 in the 21 Apr 1910 census of Newport, Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.05--Dicine "Dicie" Jane Hartsell, dau, b. 20 Apr 1895 [age 5 in the 18 Jun 1900 census of Civil Dist. 9, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 15 in the 21 Apr 1910 census of Newport, Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. 23 Dec 1920 to William McKinley Bryant (b. 27 Oct 1896; d. 10 Mar 1979; bd. Jenkins Chapel Cem., Cocke Co., TN); at least 3 ch.

27.01--Marilyn Bryant, b. 20 Aug 1921; d. 20 Aug 1921; bd. Unicia Cem., Louden Co., TN
27.02--Edna Marie Bryant, b.
27.03--Hugh William Bryant, b.

26.06--McKinley Hartsell, son, b. Feb 1897 [age 3 in the 18 Jun 1900 census of Civil Dist. 9, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 13 in the 21 Apr 1910 census of Newport, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 33 in the 2 Apr 1930 census of Civil Dist. #6, Loudon Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. Edna M. (nee unk., b. ca. 1906 [age 24 in the 2 Apr 1930 census of Civil Dist. #6, Loudon Co., TN]; d. unk.); at least 2 ch.

27.01--Elizabeth Hartsell, b. ca. 1926; [age 4 in the 3 Apr 1930 census of Dist. 6, Loudon Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.02--Gilbert E. Hartsell, b. ca. Jun 1928 [age 1 yr., 9 mos. in the 3 Apr 1930 census of Dist. 6, Loudon Co., TN]; ret. CPA, lives in Loudon Co., TN; m. Gildert? (nee unk., b. unk. d. unk. date; ret. school teacher); at least one ch.; [John M. Gwin Note: I spoke briefly by telephone with this gentleman 21 Apr 2007; we plan to share more family info.   
 780 Yedear Rd., Lenoir City, TN (865) 986-7701]

28.00--[daughter] Hartsell; b. unk.; m. unk.
26.07--Girtela "Millie" Hartsell, dau, b. Dec 1898 [age 1 in the 18 Jun 1900 census of Civil Dist. 9, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 11 in the 21 Apr 1910 census of Newport, Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.08--Ernest Hartsell, son, b. ca.1902 [age 8 in the 21 Apr 1910 census of Newport, Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.09--Hollis Hartsell, son, b. ca.1905 [age 5 in the 21 Apr 1910 census of Newport, Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.10--Myrtle Hartsell, dau, b. ca.1907 [age 3 in the 21 Apr 1910 census of Newport, Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.11--William Hartsell, Jr., son, b. ca. Apr 1910 [age 0 mo (newborn) in the 21 Apr 1910 census of Newport, Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.03--James Abraham Hartsell, b. ca. 1866 [age 4 in the 16 Aug 1870 census of res. 127, 10th Dist., Cocke Co., TN]; [age 14 in the 4 Jun 1880 census of 10th Dist., Lower Cosby, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 33 in 1900 census of Civil Dist. 6, Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. Cordelia "Cordee" (nee unk., b. ca. 1876 [age 24 in 1900 census of Civil Dist. 6, Cocke Co., TN]; unk. ch.

26.01--Kirt/Curt Hartsell, b. ca. 1889-90 [age 10 in 1900 census of Civil Dist. 6, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 21 in16 Apr 1910 census of Jefferson Co., TN; occ.: RR laborer]; [age 29 in 14 Jan 1920 census of Jefferson Co., TN; occ.: blacksmith (own shop)]; [age 41 in 11 Apr 1930 census of Newport, Dist. 6, Cocke Col, TN, occ.: blacksmith, steam railway]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. ca. Sep 1909 to Vannie/Fannie (nee unk., b. ca. 1888 [age 22 in16 Apr 1910 census of Jefferson Co., TN]; [age 34 in 14 Jan 1920 census of Jefferson Co., TN]; [age 44 in 11 Apr 1930 census of Newport, Dist. 6, Cocke Col, TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

27.01--Myrtle Hartsell, b. ca. 1910 [age 10 in 14 Jan 1920 census of Jefferson Co., TN]; [age 19 in 11 Apr 1930 census of Newport, Dist. 6, Cocke Col, TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.02--May Hartsell, dau, b. ca.1912 [age 8 in 14 Jan 1920 census of Jefferson Co., TN]; [age 17 in 11 Apr 1930 census of Newport, Dist. 6, Cocke Col, TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.03--Gale "Goldie" L. Hartsell, dau., b. ca. 1916 [age 4 in 14 Jan 1920 census of Jefferson Co., TN]; [age 14 in 11 Apr 1930 census of Newport, Dist. 6, Cocke Col, TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.04--Maxie Hartsell, dau., b. ca. 1917 [age 3 in 14 Jan 1920 census of Jefferson Co., TN]; [age 12 in 11 Apr 1930 census of Newport, Dist. 6, Cocke Col, TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.05--Sanders Hartsell, son, b. ca. Sep 1919 [age 4 mos. in 14 Jan 1920 census of Jefferson Co., TN]; [age 11 in 11 Apr 1930 census of Newport, Dist. 6, Cocke Col, TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.06--Blaine Hartsell, son, b. ca. 1921; [age 9 in 11 Apr 1930 census of Newport, Dist. 6, Cocke Col, TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.Blaine Hartsell 501 Blue Ridge Way, Newport, TN (423) 623-7319

27.07--James Hartsell, son, b. ca. 1923; [age 7 in 11 Apr 1930 census of Newport, Dist. 6, Cocke Col, TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.08--Anna S. Hartsell, dau, b. ca. 1925; [age 5 in 11 Apr 1930 census of Newport, Dist. 6, Cocke Col, TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

Name in 1900 census of Civil Dist. 6, Cocke Co., TN Age
James Hartsell 33
Carda Hartsell 24
Kirt Hartsell 10
Berthy Hartsell 8
Lockey Hartsell 6
Walter Hartsell 1
Charley Hartsell 20

Names in the 1910 census of Civil Dist. 7, Cocke Co., TN Age
James A Hartsell 44
Cordelia Hartsell 34
Bertha Hartsell 19
Locky J Hartsell 17
Walter Hartsell 13
Bartha Hartsell 9
Madge Hartsell 7

Names in the 17 Jan 1920 census of Civil Dist. 7, Cocke Co., TN
Age
James Hartsell 53
Corelee Hartsell
[actually says "Cordee"]
44
Walter Hartsell 21
Barsha Hartsell 19
Raymond Hartsell,
(grandson--parent unk.)
10

Names in the 1930 census of Cocke Co., TN Age
James A Hartsell 63
Covdilla Hartsell
[actually says "Cordilla",
actually spelled "Cordelia"]
54
Hazel Hartsell,
(granddaughter--parent unk.)
9




Names in the 16 Apr 1910 census of Cocke Co., TN
Name Age
Curt Hartsell 21
Vannie Hartsell 22

Names in the 14 Jan 1920 census of Dist. 5, Cocke Co., TN
Name Age
Curt Hartsell 29
Fanny Hartsell 34
Myrtle Hartsell 10
May Hartsell 8
Isole Hartsell 4
Maxie Hartsell 3
Sanders Hartsell 4/12

Names in the 11 Apr 1930 census of Newport, Dist. 6, Cocke Co., TN
Name Age
Curt Hartsell 41
Fannie Hartsell 44
Myrtle Hartsell 19
May Hartsell 17
Goldie L Hartsell 14
Maxie Hartsell 12
Sanders Hartsell 11
Blaine Hartsell 9
James Hartsell 7
Anna S Hartsell 5

26.02--Bertha Hartsell, b. ca. 1892 [age 8 in 1900 census of Civil Dist. 6, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 19 in 1910 census of Civil Dist. 7, Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.03--Lockey J. Hartsell, dau, b. ca. 1894 [age 6 in 1900 census of Civil Dist. 6, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 17 in 1910 census of Civil Dist. 7, Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.04--Walter P. Hartsell, Sr., b. ca. 1899 [age 1 in 1900 census of Civil Dist. 6, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 13 in 1910 census of Civil Dist. 7, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 21 in the 17 Jan 1920 census of Civ. Dist. 7, Cocke Col, TN]; [age 31 in 28 Apr 1930 census of Dist. 6, Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. Lear L. (nee unk., b. ca. 1909 [age 21 in 28 Apr 1930 census of Dist. 6, Cocke Co., TN; occ.: blacksmith]; d. unk. bd. unk.); at least 2 ch.

27.01--Walter P. Hartsell, Jr., b. ca. 1925; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.02--Beulah C. Hartsell, b. ca. Mar. 1927; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.05--Barsha Hartsell, dau., b. ca. 1901 [age 9 in 1910 census of Civil Dist. 7, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 19 in the 17 Jan 1920 census of Civ. Dist. 7, Cocke Col, TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.06--Madge Hartsell, b. ca. 1903 [age 7 in 1910 census of Civil Dist. 7, Cocke Co., TN]; [not listed at home in the 17 Jan 1920 census of Civ. Dist. 7, Cocke Col, TN, and assumed married or deceased]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

Names in the 28 Apr 1930 census of Dist. 6, Cocke Co., TN

Name Age
Walter P Hartsell 31
Lear L Hartsell 21
Walter R Hartsell 5
Beaulah C Hartsell 3 1/12
Names in the 28 Apr 1930 census of Dist. 6, Cocke Co., TN

Name Age
Walter P Hartsell 31
Lear L Hartsell 21
Walter R Hartsell 5
Beaulah C Hartsell 3 1/12

25.04--Rebecca Susanna Hartsell, b. [age 3 in the 16 Aug 1870 census of res. 127, 10th Dist., Cocke Co., TN][age 13 in the 4 Jun 1880 census of 10th Dist., Lower Cosby, Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.05--Manerva "Mariah" Clementine Hartsell, b. Jan 1870 [age 1 (and called Manerva) in the 16 Aug 1870 census of res. 127, 10th Dist., Cocke Co., TN]; [age 11 in the 4 Jun 1880 census of 10th Dist., Lower Cosby, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 30 in the 5 Jun 1900 census of the 10th Civil Dist., Cocke Co., TN, still single]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.06--Mary Jane Hartsell, b. [age 9 in the 4 Jun 1880 census of 10th Dist., Lower Cosby, Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.07--Julia Floris Hartsell, b. Oct 1874 [age 7 in the 4 Jun 1880 census of 10th Dist., Lower Cosby, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 25 in the 5 Jun 1900 census of the 10th Civil Dist., Cocke Co., TN, still single]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.08--John Harrison Hartsell, Jr., b. Sep 1875 [age 5 in the 4 Jun 1880 census of 10th Dist., Lower Cosby, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 24 in the 5 Jun 1900 census of the 10th Civil Dist., Cocke Co., TN, still single]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.09--Amanda Caroline Hartsell, b. [age 3 in the 4 Jun 1880 census of 10th Dist., Lower Cosby, Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.10--Charles Columbus Hartsell, b. Mar 1879 [age 1 in the 4 Jun 1880 census of 10th Dist., Lower Cosby, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 22 in the 5 Jun 1900 census of the 10th Civil Dist., Cocke Co., TN, still single]; d. aft. 1830 census; bd. unk.; m. ca. 1902 to Sarah Sweat (b. ca. 1887, d/o Unk. Mr. Sweat and Lucinda {nee unk., b. ca. 1852}; d. ); perhaps only one ch.

26.01--Hattie L. Hartsell, b. ca. 1905

25.11--Oscar Lemuel Hartsell, b. Nov 1881; [age 18 in the 5 Jun 1900 census of the 10th Civil Dist., Cocke Co., TN, still single]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.12--Lou V. Hartsell, b. Nov 1897; [age 2 in the 5 Jun 1900 census of the 10th Civil Dist., Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.


Name in 1900 census of Civil Dist. 6, Cocke Co., TN Age
James Hartsell 33
Carda Hartsell 24
Kirt Hartsell 10
Berthy Hartsell 8
Lockey Hartsell 6
Walter Hartsell 1
Charley Hartsell 20

Names in 1920 census of Richmond, Ray Co., MO Age
Charley C Hartsell 40
Sarah J Hartsell 30
Hattie L Hartsell 14
Lusinda Sweat 69
Frank Enlow 34

Names in 1930 census of Richmond, Ray Co., MO
Age
Charles C Hartsell 50
Sarah Hartsell 43
Hattie L Hartsell 25
Cinda Sweat 78



Names in 1910 census of Richmond, Ray Co., MO Age
Charley C Hartsell 31
Sara J Hartsell 23
Hattie L Hartsell 5
Lindy Sweat 58
Hugh Taylor 22

Home in 1920 to the family of 5.02--Wm. Hartsell: Sardis, Cocke Co., TN
Name Age
William B Hartsell 55
Josephine Hartsell 50
Della M Hartsell 26
Dicie J Hartsell 24
Mc Kinley Hartsell 22
Millie G Hartsell 20
Ernest Hartsell 17
Hollis Hartsell 15
Myrtle Hartsell 12
Lucile Hartsell 9 8/12

23.05--Mary Ann Hartsell, b. ca. 1813; d. ca. 1881;

23.06--Paul Anthony Hartsell, b. 21 Feb 1816 [listed as Paul A. Heartsill, age 64, in the 10 Jun 1880 census of the Shuck Run  Dist. No. 1039, Murray Co., GA]; d. 17 Dec 1897; bd. unk.; m. Margaret (nee unk., b. ca. 1817 in SC [listed as Margaret Heartsill, age 63, in the 10 Jun 1880 census of the Shuck Run  Dist. No. 1039, Murray Co., GA]); at least 2 ch.

[John M. Gwin Note:  23.06 Paul Anthony Hartsell is Kara's gggg-granduncle.  Living three doors away in the 1880 census of Murray Co., GA, is Austin Shorter Vining, Jeremy's 2nd cousin 4 times removed!]


24.01--Martha A. M. F. Hartsell, b. ca. 1855 in TN [listed as Martha A. M. F. Heartsill, daughter, age 25, in the 10 Jun 1880 census of the Shuck Run  Dist. No. 1039, Murray Co., GA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

24.02--Christopher C. Hartsell, b. ca. 1864 in TN [listed as Christopher C. Heartsill, son, age 16, in the 10 Jun 1880 census of the Shuck Run  Dist. No. 1039, Murray Co., GA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

23.07--Nancy Singleton Hartsell, b. 8 Aug 1820; d. 21 Jul 1899;
23.08--Sarah Jane Hartsell, b. ca. 1820; d. unk.;
23.09--William T. Hartsell, b. ca. 1823; d. unk.;
23.10--Ruth Hartsell, b. ca. 1826; d. unk.;
23.11--Abner Lawson Hartsell, b.12 May 1828; d. 25 Aug 1912;

22.02--Isaac Hartzell, b. 1783; d. late 1863;
22.03--Jacob Tayler Hartzell, b. 1786; d. 2 May 1843;
22.04--Sarah Hartzell, b. 12 Aug 1789; d. 19 Aug 1861;
22.05--Delilah Hartzell, b. ca. 1794; m. Mr. Early;

23.01--William Early, b. ca. 1812

23.02--S. E. Early, dau., b. ca. 1814; m. Rev. J. F. Broyles;

23.03--Benjamin Early, b. ca. 1820;

23.04--Charlotte Early, b. ca. 1822;

23.05--Martin L. Early, b. ca. 1826 [not listed in the Jul 1870 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN, and presumed deceased]; d. prob. betw. 1860 and 1870 censuses; m. Charlotte (nee unk., b. ca. 1833 in VA; d. unk.; [age 37 in the Jul 1870 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN]);

24.01--Samuel A. Early, b. ca. May 1852 [age 18 in the Jul 1870 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN]; [listed as S. A. Earley, age 27 in the 16 Jun 1880 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN; occ., miller]; [listed as Sam Earley, age 48, m. 20 yrs., in the 13 June 1900 census of 18th Civil Dist. of Washington Co., TN; occ. merchant]; [listed as Sam'l. A. Early, age 59, m. 4 yrs., in the 23 Apr 1910 census of Civ. Dist. #3, Washington Co., TN]; [listed as S.A. Early, age 66, in the 28 Jan 1920 census of Dewitt, Dewitt Township, Dewitt Co., IL; occ., merchant, store owner]; d. unk.; m1. Eliza (nee unk., b. ca. 1861 [listed as Eliza Earley, age 19 in the 16 Jun 1880 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN]; [listed as Eliza Earley, age 39, m. 20 yrs., in the 13 June 1900 census of 18th Civil Dist. of Washington Co., TN, having borne 9 ch., 7 still lvg.]; d. betw. 1900 and 1906; bd. unk.); m2. ca. 1906 to Florence (nee unk., b. ca. 1873 [listed as Florence Early, age 37, m. 4 yrs., in the 23 Apr 1910 census of Civ. Dist. #3, Washington Co., TN, having borne 1 ch., still lvg.]; [listed as Flaurence Early, age 42, in the 28 Jan 1920 census of Dewitt, Dewitt Township, Dewitt Co., IL])

25.01--Y. V. Early, dau., b. ca. 1877 [listed as Y. V.  Earley, age 3 in the 16 Jun 1880 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN]; [not listed in the 13 June 1900 census of 18th Civil Dist. of Washington Co., TN, and possibly deceased]; [not listed in the 23 Apr 1910 census of Civ. Dist. #3, Washington Co., TN]; d. unk.;

25.02--W. M. Early, son, b. ca. 1879 [listed as W. M.  Earley, age 1 in the 16 Jun 1880 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN]; [not listed in the 13 June 1900 census of 18th Civil Dist. of Washington Co., TN, and possibly deceased]; d. unk.;

25.03--unk. Early, b. unk.; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. [John M. Gwin Note: Eliza reported in 1900 that two of her nine children were no longer living, and this seven-year period (1879-86) seemed most likely where they would have been born.]

25.04--unk. Early, b. unk.; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. [John M. Gwin Note: Eliza reported in 1900 that two of her nine children were no longer living, and this seven-year period (1879-86) seemed most likely where they would have been born.]

25.05--Nettie Early, dau, b. ca. Apr 1886
; [age 14 in the 13 June 1900 census of 18th Civil Dist. of Washington Co., TN]; [not listed in the 23 Apr 1910 census of Civ. Dist. #3, Washington Co., TN, and assumed married and living elsewhere]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.06--Loda A. Early, son, b. ca. Apr 1889; [age 11 in the 13 June 1900 census of 18th Civil Dist. of Washington Co., TN]; [not listed in the 23 Apr 1910 census of Civ. Dist. #3, Washington Co., TN, and assumed married and living elsewhere]; [If this is the right Loda Early, he is age 30 in the 2 Jan 1920 census of Portland, Multnomah Co., OR, occ. coppersmith in a garage; TN, TN, TN]; [If this is our Loda, he is listed in the 19 Apr 1930 census of Medford, Jackson Co., OR, as L. A. Early, age 39, m. age 20, TN TN TN, occ--mechanic in the welding industry]; d. unk.; m. in IL to Gle__ie Myrtle (nee unk., b. ca.1889 in OK, d/o unk. parents both b. IL [If this is the right Loda Early, then Myrtle is age 30 in the 2 Jan 1920 census of Portland, Multnomah Co., OK, IL, IL]; [If this is our Loda, then Myrtle is listed in the 19 Apr 1930 census of Medford, Jackson Co., OR, as Gle__ie M. Early, age 28 {sic!}, m. age 25 {sic!}, KS PA IL {sic!}, occ--teaching, public schools]); at least 1 ch.

26.01--Rodger J. Early, b. ca. 1915 [If this is the right Loda Early, then Rodger is age 5 in the 2 Jan 1920 census of Portland, Multnomah Co., OR, MO TN OK]; [If this is our Loda, then Rodger is listed in the 19 Apr 1930 census of Medford, Jackson Co., OR, as Roger J. Early, age 15, MO TN IL {sic!}, occ--none];

25.07--Minnie Early, dau, b. ca. Jan 1894; [age 6 in the 13 June 1900 census of 18th Civil Dist. of Washington Co., TN]; [listed as Minnie Early, age 16, in the 23 Apr 1910 census of Civ. Dist. #3, Washington Co., TN]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.08--Samuel Haden Early, son, b. ca. Nov 1897; [listed as Haden Early, age 2, in the 13 June 1900 census of 18th Civil Dist. of Washington Co., TN]; [listed as Samuel H. Early, age 12, in the 23 Apr 1910 census of Civ. Dist. #3, Washington Co., TN]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.09--Clara Early, dau, b. ca. Mar 1899; [age 1 in the 13 June 1900 census of 18th Civil Dist. of Washington Co., TN]; [listed as Clara Early, age 11, in the 23 Apr 1910 census of Civ. Dist. #3, Washington Co., TN]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.10--Ina Early, dau, b. ca. 1901 [listed as Ina Early, age 9, in the 23 Apr 1910 census of Civ. Dist. #3, Washington Co., TN]

S.A.E. m2. ca. 1906 to Florence (nee unk., b. ca. 1873)

[John M. Gwin Note: Sam and Eliza both report in 1900 that they have been married 20 years; however, in the 1880 census, they report  the first two children (then ages 3 and 1), meaning that they must have been married at least four years earlier for a total of 24 years (in 1900). Further, given the age of Ina and the marriage date of Sam and Florence, it seems likely that Eliza may have died from complications in Ina's birth.]

24.02--Delilah Early, b. ca. 1854 [age 16 in the Jul 1870 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN, reported as having been married in May 1970; however, no husband was listed]

24.03--Sarah E. "Sallie" Early, b. ca. 1857 [age 13 in the Jul 1870 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN]

24.04--Benjamin F. Early, b. ca. 1858 [age 12 in the Jul 1870 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN]

24.05--John S. Early, b. ca. 1862 [age 8 in the Jul 1870 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN]

23.06--Abraham George Early, b. ca. 1830

23.07--Sarah Early, b. ca. 1833;

23.08--Delilah A. [Augusta?] Early, b. 1836; [m. George W. Johnson? (b. ca. 1848 in NC)

24.01--Elizabeth Johnson?, b. ca. 1859, d. unk.]

This photo (right) is of part of one of the pages of the 14 Jun 1860 U.S. Census of Old Salem,  Dist. No. 3, Washington Co., TN, showing the residents of residence #266.

Listed is this 22.05--Delilah Hartzell Early, 65 and b. in TN, widow of Mr. Early and mother of the head of this household, Martin L. Early, age 34 (a farmer with $3000 in real and $8000 in personal property), who is also listed with his wife Charlotte (30, nee unk.) and children: Samuel, 8; Delilah, 6; Sarah, 3; and Benj. F., 2.

That leaves the Augusta Johnson, 24 (whom I believe to be one and the same as the 23.08--Delilah A. Early, b. 1836, daughter of 2.5--Delilah and youngest sister of Martin); her daughter Elizabeth Johnson, 1; and her husband, George W. Johnson, 22, b. NC, none of whom can read or write.


Some Pertinent Hartsell Family Census Data:


Please note that I have listed census records here in two different formats.


First are summary transcriptions of copies of the original census records transcribed by Ancestry.com, some of which may have been mistranscribed. Because I was in a hurry at the time, I simply cut and pasted them from Ancestry.com into the places above where they best fit to at least get some of the data (names and ages) onto this page.

Second are my own transcriptions, below, of copies of the original census pages. These include more data than simply the names and ages of the parties as in the summary trancriptions. These are listed in charts with this pale yellow background. While they take longer to add, I believe they may be more valuable because of the additional information.

--John Gwin


From the 21-27 Aug 1850 Census of Dist. No. 11, Cocke Co., TN
[The Town of Newport is enumerated on the first four pages of this series, Residences 1-19. Abraham's, below, is the first Hartsell family seen in this 181-page enumeration.]
Date of Enum'n.
Res/Fam
Name
Age
Est. DOB
Sex
Occ.
Real E$t
POB
John M. Gwin Comments
21 Aug 1850
32/32
Abhm Hartsell
40

m
blacksmith
150
TN
Ancestry.com mistranscribed his first name as "Abbas", so if you're trying to find the page from which this was transcribed, type that in instead. This is the Abraham Hartsell who appears above as #3.04--Abraham Hartsell, Jr.
I am searching every page of the census of this district to see if other Hartsells appear.


Rebeca Hartsell 36

f


TN


William Hartsell 13

m


TN


Charles Hartsell 11

m


TN


John Hartsell 9

m


TN


Violet Hartsell 7

f


TN


Brounlow Hartsell 4

m


TN


Isaac Hartsell 1

m


TN
21 Aug 1850
34/34
Joshua Hartsell
36

m
farmer
150
TN Aha. Two farms away is Joshua Hartsell, but his name does not yet appear in the outline above. He is six years younger than Abraham and may be a brother; however, while a brother six years younger does appear in the outline, his name is Paul Anthony Hartsell. Let's continue our search of the enumeration.


Cynthia Hartsell 33?

f


TN


Elizabeth Hartsell 11

f


TN


Miranda Hartsell 8

f


TN


Esau Hartsell 6

m


TN


Hannah Hartsell 3

f


TN


Reese Hartsell 9mos.

m


TN
24 Aug 1850
129/129
William and Margaret O'Dell
55/48

m/f
farmer
1000
TN/VA
William and Margaret have 10 children living in the home, all of whom are O'Dells but the three Hartsells--also listed separately below: Polly H., 20; Isaac, 18; Henry, 15; Hannah, 13; William, 11; Nancy, 8; Sarah, 10; Elizabeth, 2; Isaac H., 3; George H., 1.


Polly Hartsell
20

f


TN I speculate that Polly is the oldest daughter of Wm. and Margaret, that she married a Hartsell and bore him these two sons, that he died and left her a widow and them fatherless, and that her parents took her back in to raise her little family under their roof. Who her husband would have been is unknown; however, one possiblity exists (in that he's about the right age and his date of death is unknown): 3.09--William T. Hartsell, b. ca. 1823; d. unk.;


Isaac Hartsell 3

m


TN Quite possibly he's the namesake of Polly's oldest brother, listed here as 18.


George Hartsell 1

m


TN
27 Aug 1850
167/167
Isaac Hartsell
31

m
miller

TN
Here's another Hartsell family. We have no other record of this one yet either.


Elizabeth Hartsell 32

f


TN


William Hartsell 10

m


TN


Margaret Hartsell 6

f


TN


Harriet Hartsell 3

f


TN


Elbert Hartsell 6mos.

m


TN
29 Aug 1850
213/213
Thomas Early
53

m


NC
I'm so glad I made this search! Here is a Thomas Early. I recognized the last name immediately from our outline. Thomas' age indicates he was born before the turn of the century, so he's of Delilah Hartsell's generation, and sure enough, his wife is named Delilah!


Delilah
50

f


NC
Her age here is a little inconsistent with the information we have above (the data I was given indicates she was born in about 1794).


Balis
20

m


NC



Elizabeth
16

f


NC



Anne
12

f


NC



William
10

m


NC
3.01--William Early, b. ca. 1812
3.02--S. E. Early, dau., b. ca. 1814; m. Rev. J. F. Broyles;
3.03--Benjamin Early, b. ca. 1820;
3.04--Charlotte Early, b. ca. 1822;
3.05--Martin L. Early, b. ca. 1826 [not listed in the Jul 1870 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN, and presumed deceased]; d. prob. betw. 1860 and 1870 censuses; m. Charlotte (nee unk., b. ca. 1833 in VA; d. unk.; [age 37 in the Jul 1870 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN]);
4.1--Samuel A. Early, b. ca. May 1852 [age 18 in the Jul 1870 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN]; [listed as S. A. Earley, age 27 in the 16 Jun 1880 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN; occ., miller]; [listed as Sam Earley, age 48, m. 20 yrs., in the 13 June 1900 census of 18th Civil Dist. of Washington Co., TN; occ. merchant]; [listed as Sam'l. A. Early, age 59, m. 4 yrs., in the 23 Apr 1910 census of Civ. Dist. #3, Washington Co., TN]; [listed as S.A. Early, age 66, in the 28 Jan 1920 census of Dewitt, Dewitt Township, Dewitt Co., IL; occ., merchant, store owner]; d. unk.; m1. Eliza (nee unk., b. ca. 1861 [listed as Eliza Earley, age 19 in the 16 Jun 1880 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN]; [listed as Eliza Earley, age 39, m. 20 yrs., in the 13 June 1900 census of 18th Civil Dist. of Washington Co., TN, having borne 9 ch., 7 still lvg.]; d. betw. 1900 and 1906; bd. unk.); m2. ca. 1906 to Florence (nee unk., b. ca. 1873 [listed as Florence Early, age 37, m. 4 yrs., in the 23 Apr 1910 census of Civ. Dist. #3, Washington Co., TN, having borne 1 ch., still lvg.]; [listed as Flaurence Early, age 42, in the 28 Jan 1920 census of Dewitt, Dewitt Township, Dewitt Co., IL])
5.01--Y. V. Early, dau., b. ca. 1877 [listed as Y. V.  Earley, age 3 in the 16 Jun 1880 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN]; [not listed in the 13 June 1900 census of 18th Civil Dist. of Washington Co., TN, and possibly deceased]; [not listed in the 23 Apr 1910 census of Civ. Dist. #3, Washington Co., TN]; d. unk.
5.02--W. M. Early, son, b. ca. 1879 [listed as W. M.  Earley, age 1 in the 16 Jun 1880 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN]; [not listed in the 13 June 1900 census of 18th Civil Dist. of Washington Co., TN, and possibly deceased]; d. unk.;
5.03--unk. Early, b. unk.; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. [John M. Gwin Note: Eliza reported in 1900 that two of her nine children were no longer living, and this seven-year period (1879-86) seemed most likely where they would have been born.]
5.04--unk. Early, b. unk.; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. [John M. Gwin Note: Eliza reported in 1900 that two of her nine children were no longer living, and this seven-year period (1879-86) seemed most likely where they would have been born.]
5.05--Nettie Early, dau, b. ca. Apr 1886
; [age 14 in the 13 June 1900 census of 18th Civil Dist. of Washington Co., TN]; [not listed in the 23 Apr 1910 census of Civ. Dist. #3, Washington Co., TN, and assumed married and living elsewhere]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
5.06--Loda A. Early, son, b. ca. Apr 1889; [age 11 in the 13 June 1900 census of 18th Civil Dist. of Washington Co., TN]; [not listed in the 23 Apr 1910 census of Civ. Dist. #3, Washington Co., TN, and assumed married and living elsewhere]; [If this is the right Loda Early, he is age 30 in the 2 Jan 1920 census of Portland, Multnomah Co., OR, occ. coppersmith in a garage; TN, TN, TN]; [If this is our Loda, he is listed in the 19 Apr 1930 census of Medford, Jackson Co., OR, as L. A. Early, age 39, m. age 20, TN TN TN, occ--mechanic in the welding industry]; d. unk.; m. in IL to Gle__ie Myrtle (nee unk., b. ca.1889 in OK, d/o unk. parents both b. IL [If this is the right Loda Early, then Myrtle is age 30 in the 2 Jan 1920 census of Portland, Multnomah Co., OK, IL, IL]; [If this is our Loda, then Myrtle is listed in the 19 Apr 1930 census of Medford, Jackson Co., OR, as Gle__ie M. Early, age 28 {sic!}, m. age 25 {sic!}, KS PA IL {sic!}, occ--teaching, public schools]); at least 1 ch.
6.01--Rodger J. Early, b. ca. 1915 [If this is the right Loda Early, then Rodger is age 5 in the 2 Jan 1920 census of Portland, Multnomah Co., OR, MO TN OK]; [If this is our Loda, then Rodger is listed in the 19 Apr 1930 census of Medford, Jackson Co., OR, as Roger J. Early, age 15, MO TN IL {sic!}, occ--none];
5.07--Minnie Early, dau, b. ca. Jan 1894; [age 6 in the 13 June 1900 census of 18th Civil Dist. of Washington Co., TN]; [listed as Minnie Early, age 16, in the 23 Apr 1910 census of Civ. Dist. #3, Washington Co., TN]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
5.08--Samuel Haden Early, son, b. ca. Nov 1897; [listed as Haden Early, age 2, in the 13 June 1900 census of 18th Civil Dist. of Washington Co., TN]; [listed as Samuel H. Early, age 12, in the 23 Apr 1910 census of Civ. Dist. #3, Washington Co., TN]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
5.09--Clara Early, dau, b. ca. Mar 1899; [age 1 in the 13 June 1900 census of 18th Civil Dist. of Washington Co., TN]; [listed as Clara Early, age 11, in the 23 Apr 1910 census of Civ. Dist. #3, Washington Co., TN]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
5.10--Ina Early, dau, b. ca. 1901 [listed as Ina Early, age 9, in the 23 Apr 1910 census of Civ. Dist. #3, Washington Co., TN]
S.A.E. m2. ca. 1906 to Florence (nee unk., b. ca. 1873)
[John M. Gwin Note: Sam and Eliza both report in 1900 that they have been married 20 years; however, in the 1880 census, they report  the first two children (then ages 3 and 1), meaning that they must have been married at least four years earlier for a total of 24 years (in 1900). Further, given the age of Ina and the marriage date of Sam and Florence, it seems likely that Eliza may have died from complications in Ina's birth.]
4.2--Delilah Early, b. ca. 1854 [age 16 in the Jul 1870 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN, reported as having been married in May 1970; however, no husband was listed]
4.3--Sarah E. "Sallie" Early, b. ca. 1857 [age 13 in the Jul 1870 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN]
4.4--Benjamin F. Early, b. ca. 1858 [age 12 in the Jul 1870 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN]
4.5--John S. Early, b. ca. 1862 [age 8 in the Jul 1870 census of Dist. 3, Washington Co., TN]
3.06--Abraham George Early, b. ca. 1830
3.07--Sarah Early, b. ca. 1833;
3.08--Delilah A. [Augusta?] Early, b. 1836; [m. George W. Johnson? (b. ca. 1848 in NC)
4.1--Elizabeth Johnson?, b. ca. 1859, d. unk.]

30 Aug 1850
265/265
Wm. K. Lines
52


Cab. Joiner

SC
His wife and all his kids were b. in TN. This is likely an older brother of the Lines below. I list these only in case they are related to Virginia Lines' children, if any of them want to know--otherwise, delete.
30 Aug 1850 266/266
Geo. Lines
37


Bap. Clerg.

SC
His wife and all his kids were b. in TN. This is likely a younger brother of the Lines above. I list these only in case they are related to Virginia Lines' children, if any of them want to know--otherwise, delete.
31 Aug 1850 279/279
Joannah Lines
81




VA
This could be the mother--or even the paternal grandmother--of these Lines.  I list these only in case they are related to Virginia Lines' children, if any of them want to know--otherwise, delete.
31 Aug 1850 280/280
Elliot Lines
40


Farmer

SC
His wife and all his kids were b. in TN. This is likely a middle brother of the Lines above. I list these only in case they are related to Virginia Lines' children, if any of them want to know--otherwise, delete.
3 Sep 1850
304/304
Isaac Hartsell
67


Farmer
1500
TN



Rosanna Hartsell
66




TN



Elizabeth Hartsell
18




TN

5 Sep 1850
360/360
Esau Hartsell
30

m
farmer

TN


Elizabeth Hartsell 23

f


TN


Morris Hartsell 4

m


TN


Isaphim Hartsell 1

f


TN I'm not sure of this transcription. The I could be a J, and the s could be an o. I'm fairly sure of the rest, so this is my best guess.








T E M P L I N




On 29 Apr 2007, Kathy Douglas loaned me the Hartsell book--The Hartsell Connection by Larry D. and Magdalene E. Fox (who attribute much of this work to the research of Mrs. Edith Richardson of Gainesville, GA, a Hartsell descendant)--that belongs to her Aunt Lorraine Smith (who had mailed it to Kathy and Gordon). Information I've gleaned exclusively from this work appears below in this purple color, including the maiden name of 26.02--Rhoda Lucretia Templin!




25.00--David T. Templin, b. Jul 1870 [age 29 in the 16 Jun 1900 census of Cocke Co., TN]; [age 39 in the 18 Apr 1910 census of Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. Susan Butler (b. Jun 1872 [age 28 in the 16 Jun 1900 census of Cocke Co., TN]; [age 39 in the 18 Apr 1910 census of Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.) at least ten ch.

26.01--Isaac Templin, b. Nov 1890 [age 9 in the 16 Jun 1900 census of Cocke Co., TN]; [age 20 in the 18 Apr 1910 census of Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.02--Rhoda Lucretia Templin
, b. 28 Jun 1892 [age 7 in the 16 Jun 1900 census of Cocke Co., TN]; [age 17 in the 18 Apr 1910 census of Cocke Co., TN]; [age 27 in the 15 Jan 1920 census of Sardis, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 37 in the 30 Apr 1930 census of Township 3, Fresno Co., CA]; d. unk.; m. Dale Milburn Hartsell (b. 26 Nov 1890 in [Cocke Co.?] TN [age 9 in the 18 Jun 1900 census of Civil Dist. 9, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 20 in the 21 Apr 1910 census of Newport, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 29 in the 15 Jan 1920 census of Sardis, Cocke Co., TN]; [age 38 in the 30 Apr 1930 census of Township 3, Fresno Co., CA]; d. 1968)

27.02--Dorothy Jean Hartsell, b. 31 May 1920; [age 9 in the 30 Apr 1930 census of Township 3, Fresno Co., CA] m. Roslyn Elwyn Douglas (b. 18 Dec 1921; d. ); 3 ch.

28.01--Roslyn "Ron" Elwyn Douglas, b. 2 Jan 1945 in Fresno, CA; m. 17 Dec 1966 to Kathleen Elizabeth Manning;

29.01--Erik Wayne Douglas, b. 25 Jan 1968 in Colo. Spgs., CO; m.

29.02--Mark A. Douglas, b. 2 Apr. 1970 in San Bernardino, CA; m.

29.03--Bryan S. Douglas, b. 1 Oct 1974 in Upland, CA; m.

28.02--Stacey Leigh Douglas, b. 24 Sep 1952 in Fresno, CA; m. 26 Jun 1982 to Janet Miller; no ch.;

28.03--Gordon Alan Douglas, b. 11 Dec 1955 in CA; is Pastor of Family Ministries at First Evangelical Free Church in Las Cruces, NM; m. 20 Aug 1977 in CA to Kathleen "Kathy" Louise Brown, (b. 27 Aug 1953 in Long Beach, LA Co., CA, d/o George Brown and Joanne Shaw; is a registered nurse and lactation consultant in Las Cruces, NM); 4 ch.

29.01--Kara Marie Douglas, b. 28 Jan 1981 in Lake Forest, IL; m. 9 Jun 2006 at the Farm and Ranch Museum in Las Cruces, NM, to Jeremiah "Jeremy" Scott Gwin (b. 3 Oct 1978 in Las Cruces, NM; civil engineer with Parsons-Brinckerhoff in Albuquerque); she is a student at the UNM School of Medicine;

29.02--Jessica Anne Douglas, b. 15 Aug 1984 in Fresno, CA; teaches school in California

29.03--Elisabeth "Beth" Danielle Douglas, b. 29 May 1987 in Visalia, CA; in college

29.04--Rebecca Carey Douglas, b. 3 May 1989 in Visalia, CA; in college

26.03--Nora Templin, b. Dec 1894 [age 5 in the 16 Jun 1900 census of Cocke Co., TN]; [age 9 in the 18 Apr 1910 census of Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.04--Paul Templin
, b. Jan 1896 [age 4 in the 16 Jun 1900 census of Cocke Co., TN]; [age 9 in the 18 Apr 1910 census of Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.05--Carter Templin
, b. Aug 1898 [age 1 in the 16 Jun 1900 census of Cocke Co., TN]; [age 9 in the 18 Apr 1910 census of Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.06--Warner Templin
, b. ca. 1901 [age 9 in the 18 Apr 1910 census of Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.07--Bertie
Templin, b. ca. 1903 [age 7 in the 18 Apr 1910 census of Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.08--unk.
Templin, b. ca. 1905 [not mentioned in the 18 Apr 1910 census of Cocke Co., TN, and assumed to have died per Susan's report of 10 ch., 8 surviving; birth order not confirmed but seems to fit here]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.09--
unk. Templin, b. ca. 1907 [not mentioned in the 18 Apr 1910 census of Cocke Co., TN, and assumed to have died per Susan's report of 10 ch., 8 surviving; birth order not confirmed but seems to fit here]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.10--Edith
Templin, b. ca. Jun 1909 [age 10 mos. in the 18 Apr 1910 census of Cocke Co., TN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.


Some Pertinent Templin Family Census Data:


From the 11-12 Jun 1880 Census of 9th Civil Dist., Cocke Co., TN
Res/Fam
Name
Race/Sex
Age
Est.
DOB
Relat
2HoH
Marr.
Stat.
Occ.
Other
POB
 S/F/M
John M. Gwin Comments
170/170
David Templin
wm
43
[1837]
head
m
farmer

TN/TN/TN
If our suspicions are correct, this is Susan Butler's father-in-law; he is also Kara Douglas' ggg-grandfather.

Martha Templin wf
43
[1837] wife
m
keeping house

TN/TN/TN

Andrew Templin wm
22
[1858] son
s
at school

TN/TN/TN

Janie Templin wf
13
[1867] daughter
s
at school
TN/TN/TN

James Templin wm
11
[1869] son
s
working on farm

TN/TN/TN

Catie Templin wf
8
[1872] daughter
s
at home

TN/TN/TN

William Templin wm
5
[1875] son
s
at home

TN/TN/TN

Lizzy B. Templin wf
2
[1878] daughter
s
at home

TN/TN/TN

David Templin wm
9
[1871] son
s
working on farm
TN/TN/TN We believe this to be our David T. Templin who will marry Susan Butler. The age, name, and location are right, so here we go.
166/166
Frank Templin
w
26
[1854] head
m
dry goods merchant

TN/TN/TN

Matilda Templin w
20
[1860] wife
m
keeping house

TN/TN/TN

Charlie Templin w
1mo.
[May 1880] son
s
at home

TN/TN/TN
164/164 Milley Templin
w
49
[1831] head
wid.
keeping house

TN/TN/TN

Catie Templin w
16
[1864] daughter
s
at home

TN/TN/TN

Jacob Templin w
13
[1867] son
s
working on farm

TN/TN/TN

Joseph Templin w
8
[1872] son
s
at home

TN/TN/TN

Thomas Templin w
7
[1873] son
s
at home

TN/TN/TN
























From the 16 Jun 1900 Census of 9th Civil Dist., Cocke Co., TN
Res/Fam
Name
Relat
2HoH
Race/
Sex
Listed
DOB
Age
Marr. Stat./
Yrs. Md.
Ch.bn./
Ch.lvg.

POB
S/F/M
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
146/147
David Templin
head
wm
Jul 1870
29
m/12

TN/TN/TN
farmer


Susan Templin wife
wf
Jun 1872
28
m/12
5/5 TN/TN/TN


Isaac Templin son
wm
Nov 1890
9
s

TN/TN/TN


Rhoda Templin daughter
wf
Jun 1892
7
s

TN/TN/TN


Nora Templin daughter
wf
Dec 1894
5
s

TN/TN/TN


Paul Templin son
wm
Jan 1896
4
s

TN/TN/TN


Caster Templin son
wm
Aug 1898
1
s

TN/TN/TN


Kizzire Butler
mother-in-law
wf
Feb 1838
62
wd.
5/3
TN/TN/TN
Keziah has survived two of her children, according to this report.
147/148
Richard Butler head
wm
Sep 1856
46
m/8

TN/TN/TN farmer


Mary E. Butler wife
wf
Jan 1872
28
m/8
4/4
TN/TN/TN


Joseph Butler son
wm
Jun 1880
20!
s

TN/TN/TN farm laborer


Oscar Butler son
wm
Jul 1889
11
s

TN/TN/TN farm laborer


Rebecca Butler daughter
wf
Dec 1892
7
s

TN/TN/TN


George Butler son
wm
May 1894
6
s

TN/TN/TN


Tiny Butler daughter
wf
Feb 1896
4
s

TN/TN/TN


Stella Butler daughter
wf
May 1899
1
s

TN/TN/TN

151/152
Esaw Hartsell
head
wm
Oct 1843
56
m/11

TN/TN/TN farmer


Martha Hartsell wife
wf
Dec 1849
50
m/11
11/7
TN/TN/TN


Alice Hartsell daughter
wf
Feb 1879
21
s

TN/TN/TN


Franklin Hartsell son
wm
Apr 1881
19
s

TN/TN/TN farm laborer

Joseph Hartsell son
wm
Jan 1883
17
s

TN/TN/TN farm laborer

Della Hartsell daughter
wf
Dec 1893
6
s

TN/TN/TN



From the 18 Apr 1910 Census of 5th Civil Dist., Cocke Co., TN
Res/Fam
Name
Relat
2HoH
Race/
Sex
Est.
DOB
Age
Marr. Stat./
Yrs. Md.
Ch.bn./
Ch.lvg.

POB
S/F/M
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
24/25
David T. Templin
head
wm
[1873]
37
m1/22yrs.

TN/TN/TN
farmer
If my subtraction is correct, these two kiddos married when they were fifteen years old!

Susan Templin wife
wf
[1873] 37
m1/22yrs. 10/8 TN/TN/TN none
This is Susan (nee Butler) Templin, Kara's gg-grandmother. She reports here that she has survived two of her ten children. Seeing the large gap between Bertie and Edith, I speculate that the two victims (of whatever did them in) were born in approximately 1905 and 1907.

Isaac Templin son wm
[1890] 20
s

TN/TN/TN farm labor


Rhoda Templin daughter
wf
[1893] 17
s

TN/TN/TN none Rhoda is Kara's g-grandmother.

Nora Templin daughter wf
[1894] 16
s

TN/TN/TN none

Paul Templin son wm
[1895] 15
s

TN/TN/TN farm labor

Carter Templin son wm
[1898] 12
s

TN/TN/TN farm labor

Warner Templin son wm
[1901] 9
s

TN/TN/TN none

Bertie Templin daughter wf
[1903] 7
s

TN/TN/TN none

Edith Templin daughter wf
[Jun 1909] 10mos.
s

TN/TN/TN none

Kiziah Butler
mother-
in-law
wf
[1837] 73
wd.
5/2
TN/TN/TN none Keziah is Kara's ggg-grandmother! She has survived three of her children, according to this report.












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B R O W N

 
This section updated
24 Aug 2009
Sources:
Kathy Douglas and her parents, George and Joanne Shaw Brown, got me started with info they knew on their family.
I used Ancestry.com to search census data.
Then today, 13 Jun 2008, Kathy's cousin Mike Brown sent all the data I have included below in this
GOLD color.





24.00--Royal H. Brown, b. in NY ca. 1813 [age 37 in 12 Sep 1850 census of Watson, Lewis Co., NY]; [age 46 in 23 Jun 1860 census of Watson, Lewis Co., NY] ; d. betw. 1860-70 [because Alida is widowed and living with her son Harvey in Illinois in 1870]; m. Alida Potter (b. in NY ca. 1814 [age 36 in 12 Sep 1850 census of Watson, Lewis Co., NY]; [age 45 in 23 Jun 1860 census of Watson, Lewis Co., NY] ; d. aft. 1870 [because Alida is widowed and living with her son Harvey in Illinois in 1870]); at least 5 ch.: John, Harvey, William, Sidney, and Clark.

25.01--John Brown; b. ca. 1837 [age 13 in 12 Sep 1850 census of Watson, Lewis Co., NY]; [not present and assumed married and living elsewhere in 23 Jun 1860 census of Watson, Lewis Co., NY]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
[John M. Gwin Note: Looking for this John in the 1860 census, I found two of the right age in prisons and one living with his new bride, Sarah, 17, and her parents, Hiram and Prudence Merrill, in Homer, Cortland Co., some 100-150 miles south of Watson in Lewis Co.]

25.02--Harvey S. Brown; b.
ca. 1838 [age 12 in 12 Sep 1850 census of Watson, Lewis Co., NY]; [not present and assumed married and living elsewhere in 23 Jun 1860 census of Watson, Lewis Co., NY]; d. after 1870; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.03--William Brown; b.
ca. 1840 [age 10 in 12 Sep 1850 census of Watson, Lewis Co., NY]; [not present and assumed married and living elsewhere in 23 Jun 1860 census of Watson, Lewis Co., NY] ; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.04--Sidney Brown, b. Apr. 1848 in NY [age 2 in 12 Sep 1850 census of Watson, Lewis Co., NY]; [age 12 in 23 Jun 1860 census of Watson, Lewis Co., NY];  [age 52 in 4 Jun 1900 census of Medicine, Lincoln Co., NE] (parents both b. NY); d. 4 Jul 1919 in Hanford, CA; m. in Cochise Co., AZ, on 5 Apr 1880 to Elizabeth A. Truelove (b. Feb. 1862 in CA {but son Royal reports in 1910 that his mother was b. in Mexico, and son Lee reports in 1930 that she was b. in AZ} [age 38 in 4 Jun 1900 census of Medicine, Lincoln Co., NE]; [age 57 in 19 Jan 1920 census of Armona, Kings Co., CA, where she is a widow living with two sons, Lester and Royal E.]; d/o William Green Truelove and Sarah Davis, {both b. in MO, per Elizabeth in 1920 census; m. in Shaw's Flat, Tolulome Co., CA, in 1855}; d. 28 Jun 1928 in Laton, CA) {But Elizabeth is living as the widowed household head in 1920 with sons Royal E. and Lester, so this 1928 date cannot be correct--perhaps 1918?--John Gwin}; at least 6 ch.

[Mike Brown Note: Elizabeth's maiden name is Truelove, sometimes spelled Trulove.  I believe they may have met in AZ as there is a Sidney Brown operating a saloon with his oldest brother John in the 1880 census, although Sidney's age doesn't match.  Elizabeth may have been there visiting family, an aunt named Louise Davis, that she grew up with in CA after her parents died.  Elizabeth's father, William, was a prospector who died in 1869.  I don't know what year Sarah died.  I can't locate her in the 1870 census, which by then her children are living in CA with their grandfather, Joel Davis, Sarah's father.
 

Concerning Sidney S. Brown, I have not been able to locate him in the 1870 census.  It would be interesting to see if the 22 year old was still in NY or had started his way west by that time. My info on Sidney in the 1880 census is speculative and unconfirmed, but it is the best lead I have at this time.  I am also stumped on the next generation beyond his parents, Royal H. Brown & Alida Potter. Royal named his first born John, Sidney's oldest brother.   I found the names John Brown and Polly Spaulding in NY, who had a son named Royal H. and who was born in the correct year, but I have been unable to find enough information to confirm it's our Royal.]

26.01--Royal E. Brown, b. Jan. 1881 in AZ [age 19 in 4 Jun 1900 census of Medicine, Lincoln Co., NE] [age 29 in 4-6 May 1910 census of Lemoore, Kings Co., CA, where he is a single man and a farm manager living near Rosa and Lester] [age 39 in 19 Jan 1920 census of Armona, Kings Co., CA, where he is a single man and a truck driver living with Lester and their mother Elizabeth A.]; d. in his home 1956; m. never?; no known ch.

26.02--Nettie Rosbertie (Roberta?) Brown, b. Jun. 1884 in NE [age 15 in 4 Jun 1900 census of Medicine, Lincoln Co., NE]; [age 35 in 23 Jan 1920 census of Granite Pct., Lewis Co., WA]; [age 49 in 9 Apr 1930 census of Granite Pct., Lewis Co., WA]; d. 14 May 1956 in Lewis Co., WA; m. 24 Dec 1903 to Ralph Warren Delano (b. ca. 1885 [age 39 in 23 Jan 1920 census of Granite Pct., Lewis Co., WA]; [age 44 in 9 Apr 1930 census of Granite Pct., Lewis Co., WA]; d. unk.); at least 6 ch.

From "Washington Death Index, 1940-1996"  via Ancestry.com: Ralph W. Delano; b. ca.1880; residence: Seattle, WA; age 95; DOD: 22 Nov 1975;

27.01--Sidney Eugene Delano, b. ca. 1906 in WA [age 14 in 23 Jan 1920 census of Granite Pct., Lewis Co., WA; [not yet loacted in 9 Apr 1930 census of Granite Pct., Lewis Co., WA]]; d. unk.); unk. ch.

From "California Death Index, 1940-1977"  via Ancestry.com: Sidney E. Delano; SSN 566-18-5262; b. 1 Apr 1905 in WA; DOD 22 May 1990; Santa Clara, CA; mother's maiden name: Brown

From "Washington Births, 1907-1919"  via Ancestry.com: Sidney Eugene Delano; b. 2 Apr 1905 in Pierce, WA; father, Ralph Warren Delano; mother: Nettie Rosbertie Brown

27.02--Myrtle T. Delano, b. ca. 1907 in CA [age 13 in 23 Jan 1920 census of Granite Pct., Lewis Co., WA]; [not yet located  in 9 Apr 1930 census of Granite Pct., Lewis Co., WA]; d. unk.); unk. ch.

27.03--Melvin D. Delano, b. ca. 1909 [but birth record says 17 Aug 1906 in Pierce Co.] WA [age 11 in 23 Jan 1920 census of Granite Pct., Lewis Co., WA]; [age 22 in 9 Apr 1930 census of Granite Pct., Lewis Co., WA]; d. unk.); unk. ch.

From "Washington Births, 1907-1919"  via Ancestry.com: Melvin Daniel Delano; b. 17 Aug 1906 at Pierce; father: Ralph Warren Delano; mother: ?Ettie Robertia Brown

From "SS Death Index"  via Ancestry.com: Melvin D. Delano; SSN: 535-03-9635; b. 17 Aug 1908; last residence: Bend, Deschutes Co., OR 97702; DOD: 10 Apr 1990

From "Texas Divorce Index"  via Ancestry.com: Melvin D. Delano; SSN: 535-03-9635; b. est. 1909; age 67; Spouse: Virginia R. Delano (est b. 1919, age 57); div. 9 Jan 1976; m. 26 Jul 1951; no ch.; county: El Paso

27.04--Royal Warren Delano, b. ca. 1911 in Lake Tapps, WA [age 9 in 23 Jan 1920 census of Granite Pct., Lewis Co., WA]; [age 20 in 9 Apr 1930 census of Granite Pct., Lewis Co., WA]; d. 9 Nov 1997 in ; m. ca. 1935 to Helen (nee unk.; b. 19 Jan 1910; d. 20 Oct 1984); at least three ch.

DeLano, Royal W., Obituary (http://obitz.us/name/names%20D-i.htm) -- Royal W. DeLano, 88 years of age, died Nov. 9, 1997. He was born at Lake Tapps and
remained a lifelong area resident. Royal, along with his wife Helen, owned and operated DeLano's Rubber Stamp Co. in Puyallup for many years. During his lifetime
enjoyed bowling, gardening and fishing. He is survived by Helen, his wife of 62 years; son, Charles DeLano; and daughters, Helen Sargent and Nettie Atkinson; and
many grandchildren, great-grandchildren and great-great-grandchildren. Graveside services will be held Thursday, 11:30 am at Mt. View Memorial Park. Arrangements
by Mountain View Funeral Home, 584-0252. -- Pub Date: 11/11/1997, Tacoma News Tribune


From his Social Security Death Index via Ancestry.com:
Royal W.Delano; SSN 539-01-0987; Last Residence: Seattle, King Co., WA 98103; b. 3 Oct 1909; d. 9 Nov 1997;

From "Washington Births" via Ancestry.com: Royal Warren Delano; b. 3 Oct 1909 at Pierce, WA; father: Ralph Warren Delano; mother: Nettie Rosbertie Brown;

From "Washington Death Index" via Ancestry.com: Helen C. Delano; b. ca. 1910; Residence: Pierce, WA; DOD: 20 Oct 1984; POD: Puyallup
From her Social Security Death Index via Ancestry.com: Helen Delano; SSN 538-07-3438; Last Residence: Puyallup, Pierce Co., WA 98373; b. 19 Jan 1910; d. Oct 1984;
OR
From her Social Security Death Index via Ancestry.com: Helen M. Delano; SSN 531-48-1454; Last Residence: Seattle, King Co., WA 98103; b. 10 Sep 1917; d. 13 Sep 2006


28.00--Charles Delano, b. aft. 1935 in WA; d. unk. but aft. 1997; m. unk.; unk. ch.

28.00--Helen Delano, b. aft. 1935 in WA; d. unk. but aft. 1997; m. Mr. Sargent (b. unk.; d. unk.); unk. ch.

28.00--Nettie Delano, b. aft. 1935 in WA; d. unk. but aft. 1997; m. Mr. Atkinson (b. unk.; d. unk.); unk. ch.

27.05--Mildred M. Delano, b. ca. 1913 in WA [age 7 in 23 Jan 1920 census of Granite Pct., Lewis Co., WA]; [age 17 in 9 Apr 1930 census of Granite Pct., Lewis Co., WA]; d. unk.); unk. ch.

27.06--Rex L. Delano, b. ca. 1916 in WA [age 4 in 23 Jan 1920 census of Granite Pct., Lewis Co., WA]; [age 14 in 9 Apr 1930 census of Granite Pct., Lewis Co., WA]; d. unk.); unk. ch.
ONALASKA
MANY PARTIES HERE DURING WEEK

Last Tuesday night a number of Jeanette Stone's friends gave her a surprise in honor of her birthday. The evening was spent with games and dancing, one feature of the evening was a fortune telling booth. Those helping her celebrate were Merle Riley, Viva Robinson. Mary Austin, Lonny Hogman, Blenda Ronquist, Sylvia Ronquist, Nancy Ronquist, Frances Foley, Helen Foley, Ruth Pohosky, Margaret Brodbeck, Maxine Case, Helen Workman, Faye Literal, Patricia Johnson, Geraldine Andrus, Betty Jane Shay, Mary Hogue, Doreen Hammond, Sonny Reed, George Farnham, Vernon Cupp, Donald Sparks, Marvin Schillington, Gilson Greeley, Ray Stone, Leo Wilson, Clyde Rankin, Virgil Briggs, Rex Delano, Dorothy Riley, Henry Hogman, Henning Hogman, Warren Bailor, Barry Warwick, Mrs. Stone and Mrs. Riley.

Source: The Lewis County Advocate, 08 November 1934, page 8. Microfilm available at Washington State Library, 6880 Capitol Blvd. S., Tumwater, WA 98512 -- Transcribed by Kathryn Lester

From "Washington Births, 1907-1919"  via Ancestry.com: 
Rex De Lano; b. 2 Jan 1916 at Pierce; father Ralph W. De Lano; mother Nettie Brown


27.07--Donna Delano, b. ca. 1923 in WA [age 7 in 9 Apr 1930 census of Granite Pct., Lewis Co., WA]; d. unk.); unk. ch.


Names in the 1900 census, Medicine, Lincoln Co., NE Age
Sidney  Brown 52
Elizabeth Brown 38
Royal Brown 19
Nettie Brown 15
Lee Brown 11
Rosa Brown 11
Bertha Brown 8
Lester Brown 5


Name in the 1910 census of Lemoore, Kings Co., CA Age
Royal E Brown 29

26.03--Lee B. Brown, b. Jul. 1888 in NE [age 11 in 4 Jun 1900 census of Medicine, Lincoln Co., NE]; [age 41 in 17 Apr 1930 census of Mesa, Maricopa Co., AZ, where everything fits but where he says his mother was born--Arizona; working as a laborer with the USDAgr.] ; d. 1959; m. in 1922 to Litisha Dodds (b. unk.; she's the mother of the Georgie Dodds who married Lee's brother, 6.6--Lester Brown, below; b. unk.; d. unk.); no more ch.;

26.04--Rosa A. Brown, b. Feb. 1889 in NE [age 11 in 4 Jun 1900 census of Medicine, Lincoln Co., NE][age 21 in 3 May 1910 census of Armona, Kings Co., CA, where she is a fruit cutter in a packing house]; [age 30 in 14 Jan 1920 census of Manhattan Beach, Los Angeles Co., CA]; d. 7 Mar 1959 in LA Co., CA.; m. in 1911 to Madison M. Stogdill (b. ca. 1893; [age 27 in 14 Jan 1920 census of Manhattan Beach, Los Angeles Co., CA]; d. unk.); at least 3 ch.;

[John M. Gwin Note:  Ms. Martha Graham's interesting site at http://slogen.sloco.net/GR1912-3.html is an index to the Great Register for the General Election of 1912 for San Luis Obispo Co., California. It lists Madison M. Stogdill of Pismo Precinct as a machinist. Ms. Graham wrote: "John, This is interesting, he is in Los Angeles in both 1910 and 1920, but here in San Luis Obispo County in 1912. His occupation in 1920 is listed as pipe fitter. In 1910, he is living with his parents, but by 1920, he is married. Martha".]

27.01--Margaret J. Stogdill, b. ca. 1913 in CA [age 7 in 14 Jan 1920 census of Manhattan Beach, Los Angeles Co., CA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.;

27.02--Charles W. Stogdill, b. ca. Jun 1917 in CA [age 31months in 14 Jan 1920 census of Manhattan Beach, Los Angeles Co., CA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.; 
U.S. Public Records Index about Charles W Stogdill and two Robert Stogdills
27.03--Robert W. Stogdill, b. ca. May 1919 in CA [age 8months in 14 Jan 1920 census of Manhattan Beach, Los Angeles Co., CA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.;

26.05--Bertha A. Brown, b. Oct. 1891 in NE [age 8 in 4 Jun 1900 census of Medicine, Lincoln Co., NE]; [age 28 in 19 Jan 1920 census of Armona, Kings Co., CA]; d. in 1920, age 29; m. in 1914 to John Henry Luft (b. ca. 1890 in KS [age 30 in 19 Jan 1920 census of Armona, Kings Co., CA]; d. unk.); 3 ch.;

27.01--Edna M. Luft, b. ca. 1914; [age 6 in 19 Jan 1920 census of Armona, Kings Co., CA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.02--Annie E. Luft, b. ca. 1916; [age 4 in 19 Jan 1920 census of Armona, Kings Co., CA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.03--Elsie K. Luft, b. ca. Mar 1918; [age 21mos. in 19 Jan 1920 census of Armona, Kings Co., CA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.04--Ruby Frieda Luft, b. ca. 1920; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; at least one ch.

28.00--Eva (see email below)

From: GrndmEvaataoldotcom
Date: August 23, 2009
To: jmcdgwin@zianet.com
Subject: Bertha Ann Brown

Bertha Ann Brown was my grandmother.  She died right after she had my mother Ruby Frieda Luft (4th child).  I have been trying to find information on her.  My mother recently passed away and I didn't get who my grandmother's parents were and where they were born.
 
After my grandmother died my grandfather remarried and had another child Doris Luft.  As it stands all my aunts and mother have passed.
 
I would like to thank you for your page; I was going off in the wrong direction.  I do have family tree on Ancestry.com named the Cavanaugh Family.  I currently have 1400+ entries.



Name: Charles W Stogdill
Street address: 11822 Harris Ave
City: Lynwood
County: Los Angeles
State: California
Zip Code: 90262
Phone Number: 310
Record Number: 88280784

Charles W Stogdill
5618 Graywood Ave
Lakewood
Los Angeles
California
90712
562

953802382
Name: Robert W Stogdill
Birth Date: 1943
Street address: 1538 Golden Gate Dr
City: Modesto
County: Stanislaus
State: California
Zip Code: 95350
Phone Number: 209
Record Number: 795478827

Name: Robert Stogdill
Birth Date: Feb 1970
Street address: 3941 Waimea Ln
City: Modesto
County: Stanislaus
State: California
Zip Code: 95355
Phone Number: 209
Record Number: 970995175

26.06--Lester Sylvester Brown (my grandfather), b. 15 May 1895 in NE [age 5 in 4 Jun 1900 census of Medicine, Lincoln Co., NE] [age 14 in 3 May 1910 census of Armona, Kings Co., CA, where he is living with his sister Rosa] [age 24 in 19 Jan 1920 census of Armona, Kings Co., CA, where he is a single man and a laborer living with Royal E. and their mother Elizabeth A.]; d. May 1969; m. on 6 Feb 1924 in Compton, CA, to Georgie Louise Dodds (b. 4 Sep 1904; d. Oct 1989); 3 ch.

[Kathy Brown Douglas Note: My grandmother's name ... was actually "Georgie."   My dad told me that she was named for Uncle George (but we're not sure how he fits in--my dad thought he was another brother of Leticia/Lettisha).  Also, Uncle Alfred was Leticia's brother, but the info says that his name is James Albert, so now I am confused.]
From "SS Death Index": Lester Brown; SSN 561-03-9598; last res.: Lakewood, LA Co., CA 90715; b. 15 May 1894; d. May 1969
27.01--LeRoy Henry Brown b. 1925; d. 31 Oct 2006

28.01--Mike Brown, b. in CA; m. Sally [PRIVATE]

27.02--Georgia Lovern Brown, twin, b. 12 Oct 1930; d. Feb. 1990;

27.03--George Lester Brown, twin, b. 12 Oct 1930; m. Joanne Caroline Shaw (b. 18 Mar 1932)

From "California Death Index, 1940-1997": George Lester Brown; ssn: 473-10-1150; b. 30 Jun 1902 in NE; d. 17 Feb 1985 in Riverside, CA  !  [I know this is not our George; however, there was some question, I believe, as to for whom he was named. Could this be he? Just saw this and had to ask the question. -- John Gwin]



Lester and Georgie Brown,
wedding portrait, Feb 1924
Photo from Kathy Douglas
28.01--Kenneth Clark Brown, b. 6 Sep 1956 in Long Beach, CA; m1. Janice Casey Jones; div.; m2. 1 Jun 1996 to Margo Melinda Morales;

29.01--Greg Brown, b.

29.02--Leslie Brown, b.

KCB m2. Margo Melinda Morales;

28.02--Kathleen "Kathy" Louise Brown, b. ca. 1957 in Long Beach, LA Co., CA; is a registered nurse and lactation consultant in Las Cruces, NM; m. 20 Aug 1977 in CA to Gordon Alan Douglas (b. ca. 1956 in CA; is Pastor of Family Ministries at First Evangelical Free Church in Las Cruces, NM); 4 ch.

29.01--Kara Marie Douglas, b. 28 Jan 1981 in Lake Forest, IL; m. 9 Jun 2006 at the Farm and Ranch Museum in Las Cruces, NM, to Jeremiah "Jeremy" Scott Gwin (b. 3 Oct 1978 in Las Cruces, NM; civil engineer with Parsons-Brinckerhoff in Albuquerque); she is a student at the UNM School of Medicine;

29.02--Jessica Anne Douglas, b. 15 Aug 1984 in Fresno, CA;

29.03--Elisabeth "Beth" Danielle Douglas, b. 29 May 1987 in Visalia, CA;

29.04--Rebecca Carey Douglas, b. 3 May 1989 in Visalia, CA;

25.5--Clark L. Brown, b. ca. 1852 in NY [age 8 in 23 Jun 1860 census of Watson, Lewis Co., NY]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.


Some Pertinent Brown Family Census Data:





I have listed census records here in two different formats.


First are summary transcriptions of copies of the original census records transcribed by Ancestry.com, some of which may have been mistranscribed. Because I was in a hurry at the time, I simply cut and pasted them from Ancestry.com immediately below to at least get some of the data (names and ages) onto this page.

Second are my own transcriptions of copies of the original census pages. These include more data than simply the names and ages of the parties as in the summary trancriptions. These are listed below the summaries in charts with this pale yellow background. While they take longer to add, I believe they may be more valuable because of the additional information.

--John Gwin




Name: Lester Brown
Age in 1910: 14
Est. birth year: abt 1896
POB: Nebraska
Relation to HOH: Brother
Father's POB: New York
Mother's POB: California
Home in 1910: Armona, Kings, California
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Rosa Brown 21
Lester Brown 14
Name: Sidney Brown
Home in 1900: Medicine, Lincoln, Nebraska
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Birthplace: New York
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Spouse's name: Elzabeth
Race: White
Occupation: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
  Brown 52
Elzabeth Brown 38
Royd Brown 19
Nettie Brown 15
Lee Brown 11
Rosa Brown 11
Bertha Brown 8
Lester Brown 5
Name: Royal E Brown
Age in 1910: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Birthplace: Arizona
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: New York
Mother's Birth Place: Maine
Home in 1910: Lemoore, Kings, California
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Royal E Brown 29

Name: Royal E Brown
Home in 1920: Home in 1920 Armona, Kings Co., CA
Age: 38 years 
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Arizona
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's Birth Place: New York
Mother's name: Elizabeth A
Mother's Birth Place: California
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth A Brown 57
Royal E Brown 38
Lester S Brown 24
Name: Royal E Brown
Home in 1930: Columbia River, Kittitas, Washington
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Birthplace: Arizona
Relation to Head of House: Shurp Camp
Race: White
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry R Joudd 38
Frances M Joudd 37
George Cabell 54
Francis B Morris 22
Gordon Nogle 23
Royal E Brown 49
Joe S Fry 40
Patrick B Bograd 40
Ralph C Forrey 26
John Loper 34
Sam Vargas 28
Name: Lester S Brown
Home in 1930: Signal Hill, Los Angeles, California
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Birthplace: Nebraska
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Georgie
Race: White
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Lester S Brown 34
Georgie Brown 25
Leroy Brown 5



From the 12 Sep 1850 Census of Watson Town, Lewis Co., NY
Res/Fam
Name
Sex
DOB
[est.]
Age
Real
E$t.
POB
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
2664/2699 Royal H. Brown
m
1813
37
1200
[BLANK]
farmer
Dead giveaway! I searched the 1850 census for any Sidney Browns b. in NY in 1848. There was only one, and his father's name was Royal! (Sidney later named his own firstborn Royal.)

Olida Brown
f
1814
36

[BLANK]
The misspelling is to be expected--this should beAlida.

John Brown m
1837
13

[BLANK]


Harvey Brown m
1838
12

[BLANK]


William Brown m
1840
10

[BLANK]


Sidney Brown m
1848
2

[BLANK]
See my comments on Royal, above.  I'm convinced that this is our Sidney. Finding him in 1860, 70, and 80 should help confirm this.

Orson Eldrid
m
1818
32

[BLANK] laborer


From the 23 Jun 1860 Census of Watson P.O., Lewis Co., NY
Res/Fam
Name
Sex
DOB
[est.]
Age
Real
E$t.
POB
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
185/185 Royal H. Brown
m

46

NY

This certainly is our family--same as in 1850.

Ollida Brown
f

45

NY

Again, the expected misspelling--this should beAlida, of course.

Sidney S. Brown f !

12

NY

And again, here is our Sidney, now with a younger brother to boot!

Clark L. Brown
m

8

NY



From the 20 Jun, 1 Jul 1870 Census of West Hallock P.O., Akron, Peoria Co., IL

Res/Fam
Name
Race/
Sex
DOB
[est.]
Age
Real
E$t.
Pers.
E$t.
POB
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
4/4
Harvey S. Brown
wm
1838
32
5000
700
NY
farmer
Here we learn that Harvey's middle initial is S.

Rosa A. Brown wf
1844
26


NY

And now we know his wife's name.

Ella Brown wf
Mar 1870
3mos.


IL

Ella's age is likely a clue to their wedding date. Three months plus nine more would put their marriage about July 1869. And if Rosa was b. in NY, that would probably mean that their move to IL would've been within the year, don't you think?

Aleda Brown wf
1815
55


NY

This is our Alida Potter, no doubt. She is probably a widow here, since Royal is nowhere to be seen. Hmmm--where is 17-year-old Clark?

William Porter
wm
1857
13


NY
att'd. sch. w/in the year
Hmm. William's last name could possibly be Potter, heard as Porter by an Illinois enumerator listening to a New York accent. If so, perhaps he had been with Alida (his aunt?) before the move
38/38
Winter Green
wm
1790
80


NY



Lucretia Green
wf
1792
78


RI

This is the same Lucretia for whom Alida Brown is housekeeper (caregiver?) in 1880.

Sarah J. Randolph
wf
1846
24


NJ


35/35
Daniel Potter
wm
1816
54
2800
350
NY
farmer
Daniel could be Alida's brother...

Rebecca Potter wf
1817
53


RI

     ...in which case Rebecca would be her sister-in-law...

Nancy A. Potter wf
1853
17


NY

          ...Nancy would be her niece...

Geo. F. Potter wm
1856
14


NY

               ...and George would be her nephew.
36/36
Riley Potter wm
1814
56
[BLANK]
[BLANK] NY
farmer


Phebe Potter wf
1815
55


NY



Charles H. Potter wm
1847
23


NY



Ella C. Potter
wf
1850
20


WI














From the 18 Jun 1880 Census of Hallock, Peoria Co., IL

Res/Fam
Name
Race/Sex
Age
Est.
DOB
Relat
2HoH
Marr.
Stat.
Occ.
Other
POB
 S/F/M
John M. Gwin Comments
170
Lucretia Green
wf
88
1792
[BLANK]
wd.
keeping house

NY/RI/RI I'm not sure who this is. Alida is living with her as a caregiver (but are they related?) In the 1870 census of this same place, she and her husband, Winter, age 80, are right here, with Charles and his father Riley still right down the street.

Alida Brown
wf
65
1815
[BLANK] wd.
housekeeper

NY/RI/CT
Here is Alida again, now a widow, serving as a caregiver at 65.
171
Charles Potter
wm
33
1847

m
clerk in store


Alida's alleged maiden name is Potter, so this could be a nephew and his family.

Ella C. Potter
wf
30
1850

m
keeping house




Flora B. Potter
wf
8
1872

s





Grace R. Potter
wf
6
1874

s




172
Riley Potter wm
66
1814
head
m
blacksmith


This could easily be Alida's brother; however, see comment for Rosa, below.

Phebe Potter wf
65
1815
wife
m
keeping house




Harvey Brown
wm
40
1840
son-in-law
m
dealer in horses




Rosa A. Brown wf
36
1844
wife
m
keeping house


It appears that she is actually the daughter of the household head, Riley, and wife of Riley's son-in-law, Harvey. Rosa is Riley's daughter, so if my earlier specualtion is correct (that Riley and Alida are siblings) then Rosa and Harvey are first cousins, perhaps putting Ella and Riley B. at risk for genetic deficiencies/defects. I hope their descendants turned out well.

Ella G. Brown wf
10
1870
daughter
s



It appears that she is actually the daughter of Harvey and Rosa, thus the granddaughter of the household head. This is H&R's firstborn (we believe); however, with no more children showing for ten years, we may assume that several have died very young, leading us to believe that others may even have preceded Ella in birth; therefore, their marriage could have been even earlier than July 1869.

Riley Brown wm
1
1879
son
s



We'll call him Riley B. for reference's sake.

Nancy Marwood
wf
19
1861
servant
s



Is she a relative, too? She's from NY
174
Rebecca Potter wf
63
1817
head
wd
keeping house




George F. Potter wm
24
1856
son
s
works the farm



192
Frederick Green
wm
26
1854
head

merchant

NY/NY/NY
I decided to include this family because the last name, GREEN, is the same as Lucretia's, residence #170 above, and he's also from NY. He could be a grandson of Lucretia and thereby a first cousin to Harvey. On the other hand, there are MANY in this census who were born in NY; in fact, it looks like an entire trainload of Illinois settlers may have made a mass exodus from NY together! Who knows--maybe they're ALL related...
A quick scan search of this census has turned up another GREEN family--Jefferson, 50 (NY/NY/NY); wife Mary, 41 (IL/MA/MA); daughters Hettie A., 17, and Sarah M., 15; granddaughter Mollie Ovesen (Overen?), 1; an elderly Nelson couple (who are likely Mary's parents--MA/MA/MA). And living next door is an Overen/Oveson family--and on and on it seems to go! Are they all Brown relations?
Another thought: the father of Sidney Brown's wife, Elizabeth Truelove Brown,  is William Green Truelove.

Katie Green wf
26
1854
wife

keeping house

OH/OH/OH


Lillie Green wf
2
1878
dau



IL


Edward Green wm
6mos.
(Dec)
Dec 1879
son



IL


Julia Hoover
wf
16
1864
niece
s
housekeeper

IL


Christopher Sickles
wm
15
1865

s


IL/NY/NJ
OK, now that we see his last name, we can go back to Res/Fam #187 and see a Hoover family--Isaac (a physician, 49), Hattie his wife, 37, and his elderly parents--and a resident in their home is a Metha V. Sickels, 17, Dr. Hoover's niece! Are these all relatives to the Browns?

From the 4 Jun 1900 Census of Medicine, Lincoln Co., NE
Res/Fam
Name
Relat
2HoH
Race/
Sex
DOB
Age
MarStat./Yrs
ChBn/Lvg
POB
S/F/M
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
45/47
Sydney Brown
head
wm
Apr 1848
52
m20
NY/NY/NY
farmer


Elizabeth Brown wife
wf
Feb 1862
38
m20--6/6
CA/MO/MO



Royel Brown son
wm
Jan1881
19
s
AZ/NY/CA farm laborer
This is Royal E. Brown, misspelled here Royel, mistranscribed by Ancestry.com as Royd. This census does confirm his alleged POB as Arizona and likely, then, also confirms Sidney and Elizabeth's alleged 1880 marriage there in Cochise Co.

Nettie Brown dau
wf
Jun 1884
15
s
NE/NY/CA at school


Lee Brown son
wm
Jul 1888
11
s
NE/NY/CA at school

Rosa Brown dau
wf
Feb 1889
11
s
NE/NY/CA at school

Bertha Brown dau
wf
Oct 1891
8
s
NE/NY/CA at school This is Bertha A. Brown who will marry John Henry Luft and have 3 daughters.

Lester Brown son
wm
Mar 1895
5
s
NE/NY/CA at school This is Lester Sylvester Brown who will marry Georgie Dodds.


From the 14 Jan 1920 Census of Redondo Twp., Manhattan Beach, Los Angeles Co., CA
Address/
Res/Fam
Name
Relat
2HoH
Race/
Sex
Est.
DOB
Age
Marr.
Stat.
POB
S/F/M
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
652 34th St./
108/112
Madison W. Stogdill
head
wm
1893
27
m
MO/IL/USA
oil refining pipefitter
His unique name was easy to find in this census.

Rosa A. Stogdill wife
wf
1890
30
m
NE/NY/CA

She was actually b. Feb 1889, according to data received earlier.

Margaret J. Stogdill dau
wf
1913
7
s
CA/MO/NE



Charles W. Stogdill son
wm
May 1917
31mos.
s
CA/MO/NE
It may be that we can find in the LA area living descendants of these two Stogdill brothers.

Robert W. Stogdill son
wm
May 1919
8mos.
s
CA/MO/NE
It may be that we can find in the LA area living descendants of these two Stogdill brothers.


From the 19 Jan 1920 Census of Armona Twp., Armona (uninc.), Kings Co., CA
Res/Fam
Name
Relat
2HoH
Race/
Sex
Est.
DOB
Age
Marr.
Stat.
Years of
Immig/Natzn.

POB
S/F/M
Mother tongue
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
xx/160/163
Henry Luft
head
wm
1869
51
m
1887/1906
Russia/Russia/Russia German/German/German
laborer, Cal. Raisin Orch.
This will be John Henry Luft's father and Bertha A. Brown Luft's father-in-law.

Annie M. Luft wife
wf
1869
51
m
1887/1906
Russia/Russia/Russia German/German/German servant in private families


Victor W. Luft son
wm
1904
16
s

KS/Russia/Russia English/German/German none

Clara W. Luft dau
wf
1905
15
s

KS/Russia/Russia English/German/German none

John Luft son
wm
1908
12
s

KS/Russia/Russia English/German/German none
163/164
John H. Luft
head
wm

30
m

KS/Russia/Russia English/German/German general work laborer
John Henry Luft, s/o Henry and Annie, above, m. Bertha A. Brown.

Bertha A. Luft
wife
wf

28
m

NE/NY/CA

none


Edna M. Luft
dau
wf

6
s

CA/KS/NE

none


Annie E. Luft
dau
wf

4
s

CA/KS/NE
none


Elsie K. Luft
dau
wf

21mos
s

CA/KS/NE
none

164/167
Elizabeth A. Brown head
wf

57
wd.

CA/MO/MO

none


Royal E. Brown son
wm

38
s

AZ/NY/CA

truck driver, hauling


Lester I. Brown son
wm

24?
s

AZ/NY/CA
general work laborer

From the 23 Jan 1920 Census of Granite Pct., Lewis Co., WA
Res/Fam
Name
Relat
2HoH
Race/
Sex
Est.
DOB
Age
Marr.
Stat.
POB
S/F/M
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
xx/89/89
Ralph W. Delano
head
wm
1881
39
m
NE/NY/IA
plumber, Onalaska Mill Co.
Cousin Mike Brown's information that gave us Ralph's name led us to this find in the 1920 census.

Nettie R. Delano wife
wf
1885
35
m
NE/IN!/CA

Nettie evidently wasn't sure where her dad was born--or perhaps the enumerator misunderstood her. This gives us Nettie's middle initial: R.

Sydney E. Delano son
wm
1906
14
s
WA/NE/NE

Here's a namesake for Nettie's dad...

Myrtle T. Delano dau
wf
1907
13
s
CA/NE/NE


Melvin D. Delano son
wm
1909
11
s
WA/NE/NE


Royal W. Delano son
wm
1911
9
s
WA/NE/NE
...and here's another of Royal's namesakes!

Mildred M. Delano dau
wf
1913
7
s
WA/NE/NE


Rex L. Delano son
wm
1916
4
s
WA/NE/NE


From the 9 Apr 1930 Census of Granite Pct., Lewis Co., WA
Res/Fam
Name
Relat
2HoH
Race/
Sex
Est.
DOB
Age
Marr.Stat./
Age1stMarr.
POB
S/F/M
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
xx/90/91
R. W. DeLano
head
wm
1881
49
m/23
NE/NY/IA
lumber mill sheet metal worker


Nettie DeLano wife
wf
1886
44
m/18
NE/US/CA

This is Nettie Brown

Melvin DeLano son
wm
1908
22

WA/NE/NE
lumber mill pond man


Royal DeLano son
wm
1910
20

WA/NE/NE farm cutter laborer


Mildred DeLano dau
wf
1913
17

WA/NE/NE


Rex DeLano son
wm
1916
14

WA/NE/NE


Donna DeLano dau
wf
1923
7

WA/NE/NE








From: Mike N' Sally mlbsjb at hotmail dot com
Date: June 13, 2008 7:49:39 PM MDT
To: John Gwin <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: Brown Family
Hi John,
My name is Mike Brown in California.  George & Joanne Brown are my uncle and aunt.  I enjoyed very much looking at your research on the family names, and I wanted to add whatever I could.
Unfortunately none of it is computerized. You may have some of this information already, so please forgive any duplication. 
I can confirm your information on Sidney Brown's parents, Royal H. Brown and Alida Potter.
Royal died between 1860-70 because Alida is widowed and living with her son Harvey in Illinois in 1870.  I do have additional information on the Potter line.
Sidney Brown died July 4, 1919, in Hanford, CA.  His wife Elizabeth's maiden name is Truelove, sometimes spelled Trulove.  She died June 28, 1928, in Laton, CA.  They were married in Cochise Co., AZ on April 5, 1880.  I believe they may have met in AZ as there is a Sidney Brown operating a saloon with his oldest brother John in the 1880 census, although Sidney's age doesn't match.  Elizabeth may have been there visiting family, an aunt named Louise Davis, that she grew up with in CA after her parents died.  Elizabeth's parents were William Green Truelove and Sarah Davis, married in Shaw's Flat, Tolulome Co., CA in 1855.  William was a prospector who died in 1869.  I don't know what year Sarah died.  I can't locate her in the 1870 census, which by then her children are living in CA with their grandfather, Joel Davis, Sarah's father.
Royal E. Brown died in 1956.  I have no information about his marriage, if he ever was.
Nettie Brown married Ralph Delano Dec. 24, 1903. She died May 14, 1956, in Lewis Co., WA
Lee B. Brown married Litisha Dodds in 1922.  Litisha was the mother of Georgie Dodds, Lester Brown's wife. No children. Lee died in 1959. (I did not have the 1930 census info on Lee--thank you!).
Rosa Brown married Madison Stogdill in 1911. She died March 7, 1959, in LA Co., CA.
Bertha Brown married Henry Luft in 1914.  3 children.  She died in 1920 at age 29.
Lester Brown (my grandfather) married Georgie Dodds on Feb. 6, 1924, in Compton, CA.
Hope this is helpful, and thank you for sharing your work and information with all of us.
Mike

From: mlbsjb at hotmail dot com
Date: June 15, 2008 8:32:42 PM MDT
To: John Gwin <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Cc: kathyldouglas at msn dot com
Subject: RE: Brown Family

John,
 
Good to meet you as well.  I looked at the updated pages and let me first say how much easier on the eyes it is to read your typed and organized research than my handwritten scribbles and notes!  What a gift to the Brown family--thanks again for taking the time to do this.  I know I have a few additional names and dates which I will pass on to you when I locate them.
 
My research on the family over the years has been very satisfying to me, although at times I've hit a lot of dead ends!  Kathy undoubtedly mentioned the Jesse James connection to you, something we have been told since we were kids, but I have not been able to fully connect the dots (if you are able to, John, you will most definitely be the new Brown family hero!).  Here is what I know about it:
The James name enters on my grandmother Georgie Dodd's line.  As I mentioned previously, her mother is Littisha, or Letisha, Reynolds (m. Dodds), who married Lee B. Brown in 1922.  Littisha's parents are William Reynolds and Mary A. James, married Feb 12, 1864, in Macon Co., MO., and who came to CA I believe in the 1890's.  Mary James' death certificate lists her birth as Nov. 22, 1845, and her death date is June 22, 1918.  Her father is listed as A. James and mother as Ruth Smith.  In The 1850 census of District 22, Macon Co., MO., I found an Alfred James, age 45, and wife Ruth, age 45, and one of their children is Mary A., age 10 (putting her birth year in 1840, not 1845 as indicated on the death cert.).  A brother is on the same census, named Hampton, and I found a Hampton James living in CA with Mary A. and husband William Reynolds in the 1900 census, so I'm fairly certain I have the correct family.  Beyond this, I'm not sure how to proceed to connect our family with the infamous outlaw.   Kathy and I have both viewed the Jesse James family tree and neither of us found a connection.  But it's compelling because Jesse (b.1847) and Mary A. are born in the same generation and in the same state, although different counties.  Perhaps distant cousins?
 
Concerning Sidney S. Brown, I have not been able to locate him in the 1870 census.  It would be interesting to see if the 22 year old was still in NY or had started his way west by that time. My info on Sidney in the 1880 census is speculative and unconfirmed, but it is the best lead I have at this time.  I am also stumped on the next generation beyond his parents, Royal H. Brown & Alida Potter. Royal named his first born John, Sidney's oldest brother.   I found the names John Brown and Polly Spaulding in NY, who had a son named Royal H. and who was born in the correct year, but I have been unable to find enough information to confirm it's our Royal.
 
More later John, and Happy Father's Day!
 
Mike








T R U E L O V E




26.00--William Green Truelove, b. unk. date in MO [per Elizabeth in 1920 census]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. in Shaw's Flat, Tolulome Co., CA, in 1855, to Sarah Davis, (b. unk. date in MO [per Elizabeth in 1920 census]; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least one ch.


25.00--Elizabeth A. Truelove, b. Feb. 1862 in CA {but son Royal reports in 1910 that his mother was b. in Mexico, and son Lee reports in 1930 that she was b. in AZ} [age 38 in 4 Jun 1900 census of Medicine, Lincoln Co., NE]; [age 57 in 19 Jan 1920 census of Armona, Kings Co., CA, where she is a widow living with two sons, Lester and Royal]; d. 28 Jun 1928 in Laton, CA; bd. unk.; m. in Cochise Co., AZ, on 5 Apr 1880 to Sidney Brown (b. Apr. 1848 in NY [age 2 in 12 Sep 1850 census of Watson, Lewis Co., NY]; [age 12 in 23 Jun 1860 census of Watson, Lewis Co., NY];  [age 52 in 4 Jun 1900 census of Medicine, Lincoln Co., NE] [parents both b. NY]; d. 4 Jul 1919 in Hanford, CA);  at least 6 ch.

[Mike Brown Note: Elizabeth's maiden name is Truelove, sometimes spelled Trulove.  I believe they may have met in AZ as there is a Sidney Brown operating a saloon with his oldest brother John in the 1880 census, although Sidney's age doesn't match.  Elizabeth may have been there visiting family, an aunt named Louise Davis, that she grew up with in CA after her parents died.  Elizabeth's father, William, was a prospector who died in 1869.  I don't know what year Sarah died.  I can't locate her in the 1870 census, which by then her children are living in CA with their grandfather, Joel Davis, Sarah's father.
 

Concerning Sidney S. Brown, I have not been able to locate him in the 1870 census.  It would be interesting to see if the 22 year old was still in NY or had started his way west by that time. My info on Sidney in the 1880 census is speculative and unconfirmed, but it is the best lead I have at this time.  I am also stumped on the next generation beyond his parents, Royal H. Brown & Alida Potter. Royal named his first born John, Sidney's oldest brother.   I found the names John Brown and Polly Spaulding in NY, who had a son named Royal H. and who was born in the correct year, but I have been unable to find enough information to confirm it's our Royal.]

26.01--Royal E. Brown
26.02--Nettie R. Brown
26.03--Lee B. Brown
26.04--Rosa A. Brown
26.05--Bertha A. Brown

26.06--Lester Sylvester Brown (my grandfather), b. 15 May 1895 in NE [age 5 in 4 Jun 1900 census of Medicine, Lincoln Co., NE] [age 14 in 3 May 1910 census of Armona, Kings Co., CA, where he is living with his sister Rosa] [age 24 in 19 Jan 1920 census of Armona, Kings Co., CA, where he is a single man and a laborer living with Royal E. and their mother Elizabeth A.]; d. May 1969; m. on 6 Feb 1924 in Compton, CA, to Georgie Louise Dodds (b. 4 Sep 1904; d. Oct 1989); 3 ch.

27.01--LeRoy Henry Brown b. 1925; d. 31 Oct 2006

28.01--Mike Brown, b. in CA; m. Sally [PRIVATE]

27.02--Georgia Lovern Brown, twin, b. 12 Oct 1930; d. Feb. 1990;

27.03--George Lester Brown, twin, b. 12 Oct 1930; m. Joanne Caroline Shaw (b. 18 Mar 1932)

28.01--Kenneth Clark Brown, b. 6 Sep 1956 in Long Beach, CA; m1. Janice Casey Jones; div.; m2. 1 Jun 1996 to Margo Melinda Morales;

29.01--Greg Brown, b.

29.02--Leslie Brown, b.

KCB m2. Margo Melinda Morales;

28.02--Kathleen "Kathy" Louise Brown, b. ca. 1957 in Long Beach, LA Co., CA; is a registered nurse and lactation consultant in Las Cruces, NM; m. 20 Aug 1977 in CA to Gordon Alan Douglas (b. ca. 1956 in CA; is Pastor of Family Ministries at First Evangelical Free Church in Las Cruces, NM); 4 ch.

29.01--Kara Marie Douglas, b. 28 Jan 1981 in Lake Forest, IL; m. 9 Jun 2006 at the Farm and Ranch Museum in Las Cruces, NM, to Jeremiah "Jeremy" Scott Gwin (b. 3 Oct 1978 in Las Cruces, NM; civil engineer with Parsons-Brinckerhoff in Albuquerque); she is a student at the UNM School of Medicine;

29.02--Jessica Anne Douglas, b. 15 Aug 1984 in Fresno, CA;

29.03--Elisabeth "Beth" Danielle Douglas, b. 29 May 1987 in Visalia, CA;

29.04--Rebecca Carey Douglas, b. 3 May 1989 in Visalia, CA;




Some Pertinent Truelove Family Census Data:







S H A W




25.00--Mr. Shaw, b. unk. date in OH; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk. (b. unk. date in England; d. unk.); at least 1 ch.

26.00--John Clark Shaw, b. in OH ca. 1903 [age 27 in 22 Apr 1930 census of Long Beach, Los Angeles Co., CA; ]; d. Jan 1984; bd. unk.; mil: WW2 Seabee, NCB with Rodney Gwin/Flynn?); m. Dorcas Carey "Dutch" Felker (b. 1905 in Carey, OH [age 5 in 18 Apr 1910 census of Ward 7, Toledo, Lucas Co., OH] [age 14 in 7 Jan 1920 census of Long Beach City, Long Beach Township, Los Angeles Co., CA]; d. Nov 1970); at least one child

27.00--Joanne Shaw, b. 1932; m. 1952 to George Lester Brown (twin, b. 12 Oct 1930);

28.01--Kenneth Clark Brown, b. 6 Sep 1956 in Long Beach, CA;

28.02--Kathleen "Kathy" Louise Brown, b. ca. 1957 in Long Beach, LA Co., CA; is a registered nurse and lactation consultant in Las Cruces, NM; m. 20 Aug 1977 in CA to Gordon Alan Douglas (b. ca. 1956 in CA; is Pastor of Family Ministries at First Evangelical Free Church in Las Cruces, NM); 4 ch.

29.01--Kara Marie Douglas, b. 28 Jan 1981 in Lake Forest, IL; m. 9 Jun 2006 at the Farm and Ranch Museum in Las Cruces, NM, to Jeremiah "Jeremy" Scott Gwin (b. 3 Oct 1978 in Las Cruces, NM; civil engineer with Parsons-Brinckerhoff in Albuquerque); she is a student at the UNM School of Medicine;

29.02--Jessica Anne Douglas, b. 15 Aug 1984 in Fresno, CA;

29.03--Elisabeth "Beth" Danielle Douglas, b. 29 May 1987 in Visalia, CA;

29.04--Rebecca Carey Douglas, b. 3 May 1989 in Visalia, CA;



Some Pertinent Shaw Family Census Data:

From the 19 or 20 Jun 1860 Census of Marietta, Washington Co., OH
Res/Fam
Name
Race/
Sex
Age
Est.
DOB
Marr.
Stat.
Occ.
Estate Val.
Real/Pers
POB
John M. Gwin Comments
765/764
Julia A. Miller
wm
52
[1808]
m

-----/100
OH
We're not sure who this is; perhaps she is the landlady, perhaps Lavinia's mother.

R. Shaw
wf
30
[1830]
m
Lawyer
NY
This is the same as the Rodney Shaw listed below in the 1860 census. He has evidently finished his law school training, is newly wed, and is getting started in his legal career.

L. S. Shaw
wm
26
[1834]
s


NY This is the same as the Lavin1a Shaw listed below in the 1860 census.

From the 16 Jun 1870 Census of Marietta, Washington Co., OH
Res/Fam
Name
Race/
Sex
Age
Est.
DOB
Relat
2HoH
Marr.
Stat.
Occ.
Estate Val.
Real/Pers
POB
John M. Gwin Comments
226/250
Rodney K. Shaw
wm
40
[1830]
head
m
Lawyer
28,000/1500
NY
This is the same as the R. K. Shaw listed below in the 1870 census.

Lavina
wf
36
[1834]
wife
m


NY
This is the same as the Lavina Shaw listed below in the 1870 census.

Charles
wm
5
[1865]
son
s
at school

OH

Leonard
wm
1
[1869]
son
s
at school

OH I'm not sure that this is our Leonard, but he is b. in 1869 in Ohio, and his parents are both born in New York, so he fits all the criteria for our Leonard according to the 1900 and later censuses.

Kate Quinn
wf
24
[1846]
Domestic servant
s


OH Her parents are both listed as being of foreign birth.

From the 16 Jun 1880 Census of Marietta, Washington Co., OH
Res/Fam
Name
Race/
Sex
Age
Est.
DOB
Relat
2HoH
Marr.
Stat.
Occ.
Other
POB
 S/F/M
John M. Gwin Comments
317/353
R. K. Shaw
wm
50
[1830]
head
m
Attorney at Law

NY/NY/MA
This is Rodney K. Shaw, according to the 1870 census.

Lavina
wf
46
[1834]
wife
m


NY/MA/illeg.
This is Lavinia C. Shaw, according to the 1870 census.

Charles
wm
15
[1865]
son
s
at school
ASWTCY
OH/NY/NY

Leonard
wm
11
[1869]
son
s
at school
ASWTCY OH/NY/NY I'm not sure that this is our Leonard, but he is b. in 1869 in Ohio, and his parents are both born in New York, so he fits all the criteria for our Leonard according to later censuses.

Robert
wm
9
[1871]
son
s

ASWTCY OH/NY/NY

Emma
wf
4
[1876]
daughter
s


OH/NY/NY

From the 2 Jun 1900 Census of Summit Twp., Cedar City, Callaway Co., MO
Res/Fam
Name
Relat
2HoH
Race/
Sex
DOB
Age
Marr.
Stat./
Yrs.Md.
Ch.Bn./
Ch.Lvg.
POB
S/F/M
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
32/32
Samuel Shaw
head
wm
Aug 18__ __
m/_8

__/England?/England
farmer


Melissa Shaw
wife
wf
___  ____
__
__/__
__/6
___/___/____rk



Leonard J. Shaw
son
wm
___  ____ __
__

__/__/__
farm laborer
At first I thought this might be the Leonard from the 1910 census, because the bottom of the page was in shadow and mostly illegible (as shown by the blanks at left). I'm fairly sure it says that Samuel's parents' POB was England. This gave me hope that Melissa's POB might be England. Then I barely made out that Melissa had 6 living children, so I turned the page and saw that there were indeed three more kids. With disappointment, I read for all of the girls that their mom was born in Minnesota, not England. So that means that this is not our Leonard.

John W. Shaw
son
wm
___  ____ __
__

__/__/__ farm laborer

Robert (L?) Shaw
son
wm
___  ____ __
__

__/__/__ farm laborer

Cora M. Shaw dau
wf
Aug 1887
12
s

MO/OH/MN



Mary Shaw dau
wf
May 1890
11
s

MO/OH/MN


Lucy A. Shaw dau
wf
Aug 1898
1
s

MO/OH/MN


From the 24 Apr 1910 Census of Tucson, Pima Co., AZ
Res/Fam
Name
Relat
2HoH
Race/
Sex
Est.
DOB
Age
Marr.
Stat./
Yrs.Md.
Ch.Bn./
Ch.Lvg.
POB
S/F/M
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
309 First St./ 92/93
Leonard Shaw
head
wm
1869
41
m1/8

OH/NY/NY
[illegible/ erased?]


Caroline Shaw
wife
wf
1875
35
m1/8
2/2
England/England/NY



John Shaw
son
wm
1903
7
s

OH/OH/England

I'm not at all sure this is our John Clark Shaw. However, considering what we may have learned in the 1930 census, this is the only entry I've found that:

1. has him b. 1903 in OH,
2. has his father b. OH, and
3. has his mother b. England.
Further, the location is on the way to California...
And, if it is he, then we have his parents' names, ages, PsOB, even a brother, etc.

Henry Shaw
son
wm
1906
4
s

DE/OH/England



Edna L. G____t
roomer
mf
1880
30
s

CA/NY/MA
stenographer
Ancestry.com transcribes her name as Gelaert, but I'm not convinced and am calling it illegible.

From the 22 Apr 1930 Census of Long Beach, Los Angeles Co., CA
Addr/
Res/Fam
Name
Relat
2HoH
Race/
Sex
Est.
DOB
Age
Marr.
Stat./
Age Md.
POB
S/F/M
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
1211 Smith Ave./ 645/678
J. C. Shaw
head
wm
1903
27
m/24
OH/OH/England
insurance salesman
Dorcas' name, his initials, and the place of residence pretty much nail this down as the right family. Granted, they're not proof, but I'm convinced. Therefore, I'll move forward, looking for John Clark Shaw, b. ca. 1903 in Ohio, with his dad b. OH and his mom b. in England.

Dorcas Shaw
wife
wf
1906
24
m/21
OH/IN/OH
none







.
F E L K E R
.

 



24.00--Peter Felker, b. ca. 1817 in Baden, Germany [surname misrecorded by the enumerator as Felger, age 43 in 12 Jul 1860 census of Middletown, Marion Twnshp, Allen Co., IN] [age 58 in 11 Jun 1870 census of Fort Wayne, Allen Co., IN; occ. = carpenter]; d. unk.; m. Catharine (nee unk., b. ca. 1830 in Baden, Germany [surname misrecorded by the enumerator as Felger, age 30 in 12 Jul 1860 census of Middletown, Marion Twnshp, Allen Co., IN] [age 58 in 11 Jun 1870 census of Fort Wayne, Allen Co., IN]; d. unk.); 8 ch.

25.01--Sophia Felker, b. ca. 1851 [surname misrecorded by the enumerator as Felger, age 9 in 12 Jul 1860 census of Middletown, Marion Twnshp, Allen Co., IN] [age 19 in 11 Jun 1870 census of Fort Wayne, Allen Co., IN]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.02--Margaret Felker, b. ca. 1852 in IN [surname misrecorded by the enumerator as Felger, age 8 in 12 Jul 1860 census of Middletown, Marion Twnshp, Allen Co., IN] [age 17 in 11 Jun 1870 census of Fort Wayne, Allen Co., IN]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.03--John Felker, b. ca. 1854 in IN [surname misrecorded by the enumerator as Felger, age 6 in 12 Jul 1860 census of Middletown, Marion Twnshp, Allen Co., IN] [age 15 in 11 Jun 1870 census of Fort Wayne, Allen Co., IN]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.04--Henry Robert Felker, b. Sep 1856 in IN [surname misrecorded by the enumerator as Felger, age 5 in 12 Jul 1860 census of Middletown, Marion Twnshp, Allen Co., IN] [age 13 in 11 Jun 1870 census of Fort Wayne, Allen Co., IN] [age 43 in 1 Jun 1900 census of Prct. 6, Ward 7, Toledo, Lucas Co., OH; occ. = bicycle factory]; d. 1908; m. in 1899 to Dorcas Dow (b. 27 Nov 1822 in OH [age 28 in 1 Jun 1900 census of Prct. 6, Ward 7, Toledo, Lucas Co., OH] [age 36 in 18 Apr 1910 census of Ward 7, Toledo, Lucas Co., OH; widowed; 3 ch., all 3 living] [age 48 in 7 Jan 1920 census of Long Beach City, Long Beach Township, Los Angeles Co., CA]; both parents also b. OH; d. 1950 in Long Beach, CA; m2. J. {John?} N. Brown); 3 ch.

26.01--Alvin D. Felker, b. ca. 1901 in OH [age 9 in 18 Apr 1910 census of Ward 7, Toledo, Lucas Co., OH] [not listed in 7 Jan 1920 census of Long Beach City, Long Beach Township, Los Angeles Co., CA, and perhaps married and not living at home or deceased]; d. aft. 1976; m. Nancy (nee unk.); no ch.

[27.01--unk. dau. from Nancy's first marriage]

26.02--Katrina D. Felker, b. 1903 in OH [age 7 in 18 Apr 1910 census of Ward 7, Toledo, Lucas Co., OH] [age 16 in 7 Jan 1920 census of Long Beach City, Long Beach Township, Los Angeles Co., CA]; d. 1976; m. Leonard Phillip Bright (b. ca. 1904; d. unk.; bd. unk.); 2 ch.

27.01--Natalie Rose Bright, b. ca. 1922;

27.02--Richard Phillip Bright, b. ca. 1926;

26.03--Dorcas Carey "Dutch" Felker, b. 1905 in Carey, OH [age 5 in 18 Apr 1910 census of Ward 7, Toledo, Lucas Co., OH] [age 14 in 7 Jan 1920 census of Long Beach City, Long Beach Township, Los Angeles Co., CA]; d. Nov 1970; m. 1927 (at ages 22 and 24) to John Clark Shaw (b. in OH ca. 1903 [age 27 in 22 Apr 1930 census of Long Beach, Los Angeles Co., CA; ]; father b. OH; mother b. England; d. Jan 1984; mil: WW2 Seabee, NCB with Rodney Gwin/Flynn?); at least one ch.;

27.00--Joanne Shaw, b. 1932; m. 1952 to George Lester Brown (twin, b. 12 Oct 1930--see column to right);

28.01--Kenneth Clark Brown, b. 6 Sep 1956 in Long Beach, CA;

28.02--Kathleen "Kathy" Louise Brown, b. ca. 1957 in Long Beach, LA Co., CA; is a registered nurse and lactation consultant in Las Cruces, NM; m. 20 Aug 1977 in CA to Gordon Alan Douglas (b. ca. 1956 in CA; is Pastor of Family Ministries at First Evangelical Free Church in Las Cruces, NM); 4 ch.

29.01--Kara Marie Douglas, b. 28 Jan 1981 in Lake Forest, IL; m. 9 Jun 2006 at the Farm and Ranch Museum in Las Cruces, NM, to Jeremiah "Jeremy" Scott Gwin (b. 3 Oct 1978 in Las Cruces, NM; civil engineer with Parsons-Brinckerhoff in Albuquerque); she is a student at the UNM School of Medicine;

29.02--Jessica Anne Douglas, b. 15 Aug 1984 in Fresno, CA;

29.03--Elisabeth "Beth" Danielle Douglas, b. 29 May 1987 in Visalia, CA;

29.04--Rebecca Carey Douglas, b. 3 May 1989 in Visalia, CA;
Name: Leonard P Bright
Home in 1930: Long Beach, Los Angeles Co., CA
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1904
Birthplace: SD
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Ketrina D
Race: White
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Leonard P Bright 26
Ketrina D Bright 77
Natalie R Bright 8
Richard P Bright 4 3/12

25.05--Mary Elizabeth Felker, b. ca. Jan 1860 in IN [surname misrecorded by the enumerator as Felger, age 5 months in 12 Jul 1860 census of Middletown, Marion Twnshp, Allen Co., IN] [age 9 in 11 Jun 1870 census of Fort Wayne, Allen Co., IN]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.06--Harriet Felker, b. ca. 1862 in IN [age 8 in 11 Jun 1870 census of Fort Wayne, Allen Co., IN]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.07--Mary C. Felker, b. ca. 1864 in IN [age 6 in 11 Jun 1870 census of Fort Wayne, Allen Co., IN]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.08--Louis E. Felker, b. ca. 1869 in IN [age 1 in 11 Jun 1870 census of Fort Wayne, Allen Co., IN]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.



Some Pertinent Felker Family Census Data:








Other Interesting Felker Family Data:




"An illustration of sorts--and an engaging digression--brings to the fore a recent hypothesis promulgated by N Brent Kennedy that Melungeons are descended from Ottoman Turks. Evelyn McKinley Orr, a member of the previously mentioned Melungeon Research Committee, wrote a few years back that her Melungeon ancestor, David Goings (whom she discovered in the fall of 1989) must have had Turkish ancestry because Norman Goings of Selma, Indiana, wrote that in 1939 that "Tuckahoe" was the term used by the family to describe itself. Somebody suggeted to Orr that "Tuckahoe" was a "nicname for people from Turkey." Orr stated that David Goings married in Montgomery County, Virginia, and that his wife's family were members of the New River German settlement."

"Tuckahoe" is not at all a misreading or mispronunciation of Turkish. Tuckaho unequivocally alludes to the Virginia origins of Goings. In "Tennessee Civil War Veterans questionnaires", George Washington Lewis of Lebanon, Tennessee, stated that his father Carroll Lewis was from James River in Virginia and that his grandfather Samuel Lewis was a colonel in the Continental Army during the Revolution. He commanded a "regiment of Tuckaho Indians." "Tuckaho" was once a widespread sobriquet for Virginians, especially those from east of the Blue Ridge. The term is derived from the Powhatan language and originally applied to several different roots, tubers, and fungi, some used by Indians for food, especially in the form of bread. Tuckaho was possibly consumed by poor Virginians of every color, for the word came to refer to Virginians generally. The Tuckaho Indian regiment mentioned by George Lewis was composed of foot soldiers from the piedmont counties of Albermarle, Fluvanna, Louisia, and so forth, and was but one of several Virginia regiments of Indian soldiers. Several reputed Tennessee Melungeons had been Revolutionary soldiers in piedmont Virginia before moving down to Newman Ridge. In fact, several mustered and served in the general region of the said Tuckaho Indian regiment. In the Tennessee Civil War Veterans questionnaires, George Lewis stated that the farm he grew up on near Lebanon, Tennessee, was worked before the Civil War by hired free Indian labor..."

"The latest exotic-origins movment, favoring connections with Portuguese, Ottoman Turks, or possibly other Mediterraneans, has generated a peculiar following on the Internet--another virtual community. For such folks, Melungeons are a hot topic, as illustrated by five recently published books and the developement of the ad-hoc "Melungeon Research Committee" noted earlier in this essay. However, I suggest that the current movement is but the latest in a series of mid to late 20th century reinventions of the Melungeons. Unfortunately, while hypothetical "Off-shore Others" flood Appalachia and the word-wide web, real Melungeon histories and historic identities are being cast aside." CS Everett Appalachian Journal.

I am suggesting that the controversy over the Melungeon ethnicity is motivation of some of these vigorous attempts to deny the well documented black and white African ancestry of the Mihil-Thomas Gowen line. The more adamant of those who have denied African, have actually traveled to Turkey with Mr. Kennedy and strongly support his opinions. While I have high regard for Brent's character, I strongly disagree with him on the Turkish origin of Melungeons. He and I continue to communicate frequently and have none of the rancor that is directed to me by some of his followers on this sub.

Some of these so called exotic origins of Melungeons are coming under extreme academic fire, many of those theories will not survive scrutiny or time. We would be wise to keep that controversy separated from sound Gowen research to avoid being labeled as re-inventors of history. I rarely find anyone with the GRF objecting to Mihil and Thomas' Negro kinship who did not first have a strong opinion about the origin of the Melungeons. On the contrary, my article on the origin of the Melungeons was inspired from convincing documented archives of the GRF. This is how it should be. You should state your opinions without going into attack mode by talking about "speculation" etc. Let others make their decisions on the documentation. Genealogy, precisely documented, should drive the theory, not the other way around.

Tim Hashaw
Houston, Texas




00559224486800





From a search of each of the 1900, 1910, 1920,
and 1930 U.S. Census data for "Rodney Gwin"

Based on these searches, it appears to me that this Rodney R. Gwin is a son of a Harry and Iva Gwin and that he moved away from home for some reason by the time he was fifteen. He was born in Indiana, which is where my Gwins were; however, he was living in central Indiana--Madison Co., not the southern part--in 1900, north of where my family lived but very near where the "other" Indiana Gwins lived.  This is not conclusive, of course, for he could have been born in the southern part of the state and only lived in Madison Co. because he was boarding there. At this point, then, we are pretty much forced to abandon this pursuit via census reports, since there is no 1890 census available (it was burned), and try some other route such as birth certificates, etc.


NCB = Naval Construction
Brigade

Mrs. RODNEY R. GWIN
7022 22ND AVE NW
SEATTLE, WA 98117-5625
(206) 783-9459



[John M. Gwin Note: These
1930 and 1920 U.S. Census

reports are almost certainly
our Rodney Gwin, even
with transcriber's errors, since
our identification of him is
based on names and ages of
family members
, place names
agreeing as well. However,

in the 1910 and 1900
reports, no such luxury is
afforded, the only possible
matches being boarders, and
we must therefore
depend on
location names
and
approximations only. This

Name: Rodney Gwin
Home in 1930: Seattle, King, Washington
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1913
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's name: Harry
Mother's name: Iva
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Gwin 47
Iva Gwin 36
Rodney Gwin 17
Betty Gwin 15
Blanche Gwin 13
Mattie Phelps 61
Andrew Sieversen 30
  Name: Harry Givin
[Harry Gwin] 
Home in 1920: Seattle, King, WA
Age: 38 years 
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Indiana
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Ira Mary [Iva Mary]
Father's Birth Place: Indiana
Mother's Birth Place: Ohio
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Image: 803
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Givin 38
Ira Mary Givin 26
Rodney R Givin 6
Gwendolyn Givin 5
Blanche Givin 3
comes at an unfortunate
time, too, as there is no 1890
report (due to that fire),

giving us a 20-year gap to
bridge rather than only 10.
The chance of accuracy in
our identification so far, then, is
greatly reduced in 1910 and
1900, and almost impossible
in 1880.]
Name: Harry Guise
[Harry Gwin] 
Age in 1910: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Birthplace: Indiana
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Father's Birth Place: Indiana
Mother's Birth Place: Indiana
Home in 1910: Seattle Ward 7, King, WA
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
James C Kinsella 36
Rose B Kinsella 36
Harry Guise 25
Frances M Newport 24
Elizabeth Owen 35
Nolia Lusighan 22
Axel Bldattrude 24
Cristina O Bldattrude 26
Name: Harry Gwinn
Home in 1900: Stony Creek, Madison, IA
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
[Jun 1884]
Birthplace: Indiana
Relationship to head-of-house: Boarder
Race: White
Occupation: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Comstock 54
Nancy Comstock 48
Hamon Comstock 28
William R Comstock 20
John E Comstock 15
Ethel E Comstock 13
Harry Gwinn 15




From: Kathy Douglas
Date: April 2, 2007 4:18:09 PM MDT
To: "John and Sharon Gwin" <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: Fw: WOW!
Some additions from my mom..........Kathy
----- Original Message -----
From: Mr George Brown
To: Kathy Douglas
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 2:33 PM
Subject: WOW!
Hi, honey, how interesting about the family history.  There are some changes and requests tho:
I think Ken should be included in the history.  I noticed that Stacey and Ron were  (Kenneth Clark Brown, born 9-6-56 in Long Beach, CA, brother of Kathy)
Grandma Brown (Georgie Louise) was born on 9/4/05 in California
Grandpa Brown (Lester Sylvester Brown) was born on 5/15/l896 in Nebraska
Grandma Dutch was 22 when she married in 1927 – also include her middle name “Carey”  She was born inCarey, OH  (Dorcas Carey Felker)
My grandfather’s name (Grandma Dutch’s father) was Henry Robert Felker and he was born in Indiana in Sept. 1856 and died in 1908.  I guess this is what is written already, so never mind .
My grandfather and grandmother married in 1899 – her maiden name was Dorcas Dow  and she was born Nov. 27,. 1852
Your dad and I were married in 1952
Guess that’s about all for this time because I need to go each lunch before I go to my foot therapy.  This was very, very interesting to me.
Love, Mom
P.S.  Looks like you need to change your kids’ birth years, huh?




Hi, John, yes that is the Lester Sylvester Brown that belongs to us. 
George said that there was a sister of Rosa and Lester and her name was Nettie (sp?). 
Also possibly there was an Elisabeth (sp?) that was their sister. 
Lester Sylvester Brown died in May 1969, and
Georgie Louise died in October of  1989. 
Also Dorcas (Dutch) Shaw died in November 1970 and
John Clark Shaw died in January 1984.
I just remembered that you don’t have my Aunt Kay’s  (Katrina Felker (Bright) year of death.  She died in l976.  
She was married to Leonard Phillip Bright. 
They had two children, Natalie Rose and Richard Phillip.
Also George just told me that his father (Lester Sylvester) had another sibling and his name was Lee B. Brown. 
I don’t know when my Uncle Al (Alvin Felker) died.  It was after my Aunt Kay and Mom. 
He was married to Nancy (don’t know maiden name) and didn’t have any children together. 
She had one from another marriage, a daughter.
Now George just found his dad’s death certificate and it says his year of birth was 1895. 
Also my grandmother, Dorcas Dow Felker, was remarried (don’t know the date, but many years later) to a J. N. (think it was John) Brown. 
No relation to us, of course. 
She died in 1950 in Long Beach.
That’s all for this time.  This could get to be time consuming!!
Joanne
Hi, John, George just said his brother LeRoy’s birth year was 1925 instead of 1924.
Bye




From: "Kathy Douglas" <kathyldouglas@msn.com>
Date: April 7, 2007 8:21:04 PM MDT
To: "John and Sharon Gwin" <john@gwingenealogy.com>
Subject: corrections and additions
Hi John, A few items:

Gordon's dad's name is Roslyn Elwood Douglas, goes by "Doug." 
In the family photo, change James to Doug (James is his father)
In the family photo, Rebecca is the newborn, and Jessica is  age 4. 
Photo taken May 1989.
Gordon's eldest brother is Roslyn Elwyn--different name than his dad, so he is not a junior. 
Married Kathleen Elizabeth Manning on Dec 17, 1966.  ( another Kathy Douglas!)

Stacey Douglas married Janet Miller  June 26, 1982.  No children.
Doug has an older sister, Olive  (married William Middleton), and a younger sister Joyce Elizabeth (married Carl McAndrews). 
I don't know their dates of birth and marriage.  If you would like to call and talk to my father-in-law, his number is.
He has an excellent memory and could give you lots of info about the Douglas clan.

Beth's name Elisabeth is spelled with an "s".  Her birthdate is May 29, 1987.
Rebecca's city of birth is Visalia, CA (same as Beth's)
Please change my profession to registered nurse and lactation consultant.

Ron and Kathy Douglas have 3 sons--info is on the pages that I copied.  all married now with children.
Georgie Louise Dodds was born 9-4-04, not 1905. 
I confirmed that with my mom today.

Ken and his first wife Janice Casey Jones Brown  have 2 children--Greg and Leslie--info is on one of the pages that I copied.  Divorced.
Ken and Margo Melinda Morales were married June 1, 1996. 
Margo did not change her name to Brown.

Whew!!  This family tree has many branches!!!
This is so wonderful of you to gather all of this info.  I hope you're not getting tired of our family! 
I'm going to send my cousins this website, and I'm sure that they will be happy to add to it!
Kathy







To the right is a chart of all the Stogdills currently living in California according to Ancestry.com's version of the U.S. Public Records Index. Many if not all of them are speculated to be cousins of Kara Douglas Gwin.

View Record Name Age Street address City State ZIP Phone Record Number
01
View
Charles W Stogdill
11822 Harris Ave Lynwood California 90262 310 882807844
01
View
Charles W Stogdill
5618 Graywood Ave Lakewood California 90712 562 953802382
02
View Debra Stogdill
13834 Winesap CT Chico California 95973 530-892-1829 951582152
02
View Debra L Stogdill
13834 Winesap CT Chico California 95973 530-892-1829 666817555
03
View Joy M Stogdill
6368 Lincoln Blvd Oroville California 95966 530 942164974

View K Stogdill
915 Curtis St Albany California 94706   680679260

View K Stogdill
840 Ensenada Ave Berkeley California 94707 510-528-2977 405741175

View Karen Stogdill 64 840 Ensenada Ave Berkeley California 94707 510 970688245

View Karen B Stogdill 49 840 Ensenada Ave Berkeley California 94707 510-528-2977 923599048

View Karen K Stogdill 49 840 Ensenada Ave Berkeley California 94707 510-528-2977 844639199

View Karen K Stogdill 49 840 Ensenada Ave Berkeley California 94707 510 960156694

View Lauri Stogdill
4120 Stone Valley CT Chico California 95973 530-894-5811 669164782

View Linda G Stogdill 61 1538 Golden Gate Dr Modesto California 95350 209 785193960

View Linda H Stogdill 61 3941 Waimea Ln Modesto California 95355 209 969099150

View Margie Stogdill
6024 Patmos Way Oceanside California 92056 760-630-4875 838174986

View Margie M Stogdill 64 6024 Patmos Way Oceanside California 92056 760-630-4875 826846667

View Robert Stogdill 38 3941 Waimea Ln Modesto California 95355 209 970995175

View Robert W Stogdill 65 1538 Golden Gate Dr Modesto California 95350 209 795478827

View Ron Stogdill
6024 Patmos Way Oceanside California 92056 760-630-4875 838278162

View Ronald L Stogdill
  Oceanside California 92054 760-630-4875 895247437

View Ronald L Stogdill
6024 Patmos Way Oceanside California 92056 760-630-4875 485790134

View Ronald L Stogdill
  Vista California 92083 760-630-4875 808432275

View Ronald Lee Stogdill 68 6024 Patmos Way Oceanside California 92056 760-630-4875 826846859

View Thomas V Stogdill
3454 State Hwy 70 Oroville California 95965 530-533-3047 185904192

View Thomas V Stogdill
6368 Lincoln Blvd Oroville California 95966 530 971923493

View Thomas V Stogdill
6368 Lincoln Blvd # Oroville California 95966 530-533-3047 371034730

View Thomas V Stogdill
6368 Lincoln Blvd Oroville California 95966 530-533-3047 903721297

View Thomas V Stogdill 62 3454 State Hwy 70 Oroville California 95965 530-533-3047 845754467




Some Pertinent Felker Family Census Data:










D O W






24.00--Mr. Dow, b. unk. date in OH; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. Ms. Carey (b. unk. date in OH; d. unk.); at least one ch.

25.00--Dorcas Dow, b. 27 Nov 1872 in OH [age 8 in the 15 Jun 1880 census of Casey Crawford Twp., Wyandotte Co., OH]; [age 28 in 1 Jun 1900 census of Prct. 6, Ward 7, Toledo, Lucas Co., OH]; [age 36 in 18 Apr 1910 census of Ward 7, Toledo, Lucas Co., OH; widowed; 3 ch., all 3 living] [age 48 in 7 Jan 1920 census of Long Beach City, Long Beach Township, Los Angeles Co., CA]; d. 1950 in Long Beach, CA; m. in 1899 to Henry Robert Felker (b. Sep 1856 in IN [age 5 in 12 Ju. 1860 census of Middletown, Marion Twp., Allen Co., IN]; [age 13 in 11 Jun 1870 census of Fort Wayne, Allen Co., IN]; [age 43 in 1 Jun 1900 census of Prct. 6, Ward 7, Toledo, Lucas Co., OH; occ. = bicycle factory]; d. 1908) ; 3 ch.; m2. J. {John?} N. Brown (b. unk.; d. unk.; bdl unk.)

26.01--Alvin D. Felker, b. ca. 1901 in OH [age 9 in 18 Apr 1910 census of Ward 7, Toledo, Lucas Co., OH]; [not listed in 7 Jan 1920 census of Long Beach City, Long Beach Township, Los Angeles Co., CA, and perhaps married and not living at home or deceased]; d. aft. 1976; m. Nancy (nee unk.); no ch.

[27.01--unk. dau. from Nancy's first marriage]

26.02--Katrina D. Felker, b. 1903 in OH [age 7 in 18 Apr 1910 census of Ward 7, Toledo, Lucas Co., OH] [age 16 in 7 Jan 1920 census of Long Beach City, Long Beach Township, Los Angeles Co., CA]; d. 1976; m. Leonard Phillip Bright (b. ca. 1904; d. unk.; bd. unk.); 2 ch.

27.01--Natalie Rose Bright, b. ca. 1922 [age 4yrs., 3mos. in the 1930 census of Long Beach, Los Angeles Co. CA];

27.02--Richard Phillip Bright, b. ca. 1926 [age 8 in the 1930 census of Long Beach, Los Angeles Co. CA];

26.03--Dorcas Carey "Dutch" Felker, b. 1905 in Carey, OH [age 5 in 18 Apr 1910 census of Ward 7, Toledo, Lucas Co., OH] [age 14 in 7 Jan 1920 census of Long Beach City, Long Beach Township, Los Angeles Co., CA]; d. Nov 1970; m. 1927 (at ages 22 and 24) to John Clark Shaw (b. in OH ca. 1903 [age 27 in 22 Apr 1930 census of Long Beach, Los Angeles Co., CA; ]; father b. OH; mother b. England; d. Jan 1984; mil: WW2 Seabee, NCB with Rodney Gwin/Flynn?); at least one ch.;

27.00--Joanne Shaw, b. 1932; m. 1952 to George Lester Brown (twin, b. 12 Oct 1930--see column to right);

28.01--Kenneth Clark Brown, b. 6 Sep 1956 in Long Beach, CA;

28.02--Kathleen "Kathy" Louise Brown, b. ca. 1957 in Long Beach, LA Co., CA; is a registered nurse and lactation consultant in Las Cruces, NM; m. 20 Aug 1977 in CA to Gordon Alan Douglas (b. ca. 1956 in CA; is Pastor of Family Ministries at First Evangelical Free Church in Las Cruces, NM); 4 ch.

29.01--Kara Marie Douglas, b. 28 Jan 1981 in Lake Forest, IL; m. 9 Jun 2006 at the Farm and Ranch Museum in Las Cruces, NM, to Jeremiah "Jeremy" Scott Gwin (b. 3 Oct 1978 in Las Cruces, NM; civil engineer with Parsons-Brinckerhoff in Albuquerque); she is a student at the UNM School of Medicine;

29.02--Jessica Anne Douglas, b. 15 Aug 1984 in Fresno, CA;

29.03--Elisabeth "Beth" Danielle Douglas, b. 29 May 1987 in Visalia, CA;

29.04--Rebecca Carey Douglas, b. 3 May 1989 in Visalia, CA;
Name: Leonard P Bright
Home in 1930: Long Beach, Los Angeles Co., CA
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1904
Birthplace: SD
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Ketrina D
Race: White
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Leonard P Bright 26
Ketrina D Bright 77
Natalie R Bright 8
Richard P Bright 4 3/12

25.05--
25.06--
25.07--

California Death Index, 1940-1997 about Dorcas Dow Brown

Name: Dorcas Dow Brown
[Dorcas Dow Dow] 
Social Security #: 0
Sex: FEMALE
Birth Date: 27 Nov 1872
Birthplace: Ohio
Death Date: 17 Apr 1950
Death Place: Los Angeles
Mother's Maiden Name: Carey
FATHER'S SURNAME: Dow






From the 15 Jun 1880 census of Casey Crawford Twp, Wyandot Co., OH
Res/Fam
Name
Race/
Sex
Age
Est.
DOB
Relat
2HoH
Marr.
Stat.
Occ.
Other
POB
 S/F/M
John M. Gwin Comments
88/88
Alvin Dow
wm
57
1823
head
m
farmer

OH/OH/OH


Dorcas Dow wf
50
1830
wife
m
keep house

OH/VA/CN


Rosa Dow wf
27
1853
daughter
s
at home

OH/OH/OH

May Dow wf
20
1860
daughter s
at home

OH/OH/OH

Winnie Dow wf
13
1867
daughter s
at home
ASWTY
OH/OH/OH

Dorcas Dow wf
8
1872
[BLANK]
[BLANK] [BLANK] ASWTY OH/OH/OH I believe this to be our Dorcas, since there is no other Dorcas Dow to be found of this age in the United States in 1880.  However, the enumerator failed to list her relationship to the head of the house, so we're not real sure whether she's a daughter or a granddaughter (perhaps a child of Rosa, for instance). She does name her firstborn son Alvin D. Felker, making it very plausible that he is named for this Alvin Dow; nevertheless, it is NOT clear whether this Alvin Dow is Dorcas' son's father or grandfather; either is possible. If the former, then Alvin Dow is in generation 24, but if the latter, then he is in generation 25.00, and Rosa and some unknown person are Dorcas' parents.  Perhaps we will solve this mystery from another source.









D O D D S
 



24.00--William Henry Dodds, Sr., b. in OH [not listed with family in 16 Jul 1900 census of Lucerne Twp., Kings Co., CA]; d. bef. 1900 census; bd. unk.; m. in or bef. 1876 [md. 24 yrs. in 16 Jul 1900 census of Lucerne Twp., Kings Co., CA] in unk. place to Sarah (nee unk.; b. Mar 1860 in IA, [d/o unk. parents b. in PA--father--and OH--mother] [age 40 in 16 Jul 1900 census of Lucerne Twp., Kings Co., CA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.) at least one ch.

25.01--William Henry Dodds, Jr., b. Oct 1877 in CA [age 22 in 16 Jul 1900 census of Lucerne Twp., Kings Co., CA]; [age 32 in the 29 May 1910 census of Redding Twp., Shastas Co., CA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. ca. 1902 in (CA?) to Littisha/Leticia Reynolds (b. in MO ca. 1876 [age 4 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; d. unk.; bd. unk. at least one ch.

26.01--Sadie M. Dodds, b. ca. 1903 in CA; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.02--Georgie Louise Dodds, b. 4 Sep 1904; d. Oct 1989; bd. unk.; m. on 6 Feb 1924 in Compton, CA, to Lester Sylvester Brown (my--Mike Brown's--grandfather, b. 15 May 1895 in NE [age 5 in 4 Jun 1900 census of Medicine, Lincoln Co., NE] [age 14 in 3 May 1910 census of Armona, Kings Co., CA, where he is living with his sister Rosa] [age 24 in 19 Jan 1920 census of Armona, Kings Co., CA, where he is a single man and a laborer living with Royal E. and their mother Elizabeth A.]; d. May 1969); 3 ch.

27.01--LeRoy Henry Brown b. 1925; d. 31 Oct 2006

28.01--Mike Brown, b. in CA; m. Sally [PRIVATE]

27.02--Georgia Lovern Brown, twin, b. 12 Oct 1930; d. Feb. 1990;

27.03--George Lester Brown, twin, b. 12 Oct 1930; m. Joanne Caroline Shaw (b. 18 Mar 1932)

28.01--Kenneth Clark Brown, b. 6 Sep 1956 in Long Beach, CA; m1. Janice Casey Jones; div.; m2. 1 Jun 1996 to Margo Melinda Morales;

29.01--Greg Brown, b.

29.02--Leslie Brown, b.

KCB m2. Margo Melinda Morales;

28.02--Kathleen "Kathy" Louise Brown, b. ca. 1957 in Long Beach, LA Co., CA; is a registered nurse and lactation consultant in Las Cruces, NM; m. 20 Aug 1977 in CA to Gordon Alan Douglas (b. ca. 1956 in CA; is Pastor of Family Ministries at First Evangelical Free Church in Las Cruces, NM); 4 ch.


Lester and Georgie Brown,
wedding portrait, Feb 1924
Photo from Kathy Douglas

29.01--Kara Marie Douglas, b. 28 Jan 1981 in Lake Forest, IL; m. 9 Jun 2006 at the Farm and Ranch Museum in Las Cruces, NM, to Jeremiah "Jeremy" Scott Gwin (b. 3 Oct 1978 in Las Cruces, NM; civil engineer with Parsons-Brinckerhoff in Albuquerque); she is a student at the UNM School of Medicine;

29.02--Jessica Anne Douglas, b. 15 Aug 1984 in Fresno, CA;

29.03--Elisabeth "Beth" Danielle Douglas, b. 29 May 1987 in Visalia, CA;

29.04--Rebecca Carey Douglas, b. 3 May 1989 in Visalia, CA;

26.03--Ethel H. Dodds, b. ca. 1907 in CA; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.01--George Dodds, b. Jul 1881 in CA [age 18 in 16 Jul 1900 census of Lucerne Twp., Kings Co., CA];;


Some Pertinent Dodds Family Census Data:

From the 10 Aug 1850 Census of Alexanderville, Miami Twp., Montgomery Co., OH
Res/Fam
Name
Race/Sex
Age
Est.
DOB
Occ.
Other
POB
John M. Gwin Comments
650/650
Thomas Dodds
wm
48
1802
farmer

OH


Mathew Dodds wm
21
1829
farmer

OH

Margaret L. Dodds wf
18
1832


OH

John S. Dodds wm
17
1833
farmer

OH

Wm. Dodds wm
13
1837


OH I searched in 1850 Ohio for a William Henry Dodds b. ca.1836 in OH with a brother two years younger named Joseph. This William's family seems to fit that criteria.   There's no proof of that yet, of course, but there is enough data to make the possibility feasible and warrant recording it here. We'll go next to the 1860 census and see if we can find the family there.

Joseph Dodds wm
10
1840


OH

Harriet Dodds wf
6
1844


OH

Catharine Everit
wf
19
1831


OH


From the 28 Jun 1880 Census of Mussel Slough Twp., Tulare Co., CA
Res/Fam
Name
Race/Sex
Age
Est.
DOB
Relat
2HoH
Marr.
Stat.
Occ.
Other
POB
 S/F/M
John M. Gwin Comments
212/213
William H. Dodds
wm
44
1836
head
m
farmer

OH/OH/OH
If son Henry two lines below is our Wm. H. Dodds, then we now know his father, also William H. Dodds (Sr.). His parents are born in Ohio; he married an Iowa girl whose parents were also b. in Iowa, so that must mean that Wm. Sr. traveled from OH to IA, so we'll look for him in 1870 in IA.

Sarah Dodds wf
21
1859
wife
m
keeping house

IA/IA/IA


Henry Dodds wm
2
1878
son
s


CA/OH/IA
I have no doubt this is our William H. Dodds, future husband of Leticia Reynolds. Having found him in 1910 as a native Californian, we can see here that his age is right, his parents' places of birth are right, his father's name is the same (so they are Sr. and Jr.), and we learn that his own name, Henry, gives it away as being a namesake for President Harrison.

Joseph Dodds wm
42
1838
brother
s
[BLANK]

OH/OH/OH

From the 16 Jul 1900 Census of Lucerne Twp., Kings Co., CA
Address/
Res/Fam
Name
Relat
2HoH
Race/
Sex
DOB
Age
Marr.
Stat./
Yrs.Md.
Ch.Bn./
Ch.Lvg.
POB
S/F/M
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
472/485
Sarah Dodds
head
wf
Mar 1860
40
wd/24
2/2
IA/PA/OH
farmer


William H. Dodds son
wm
Oct 1877
22


CA/OH/IA farm laborer
Here is Leticia's future husband and Georgie's future daddy. He has only two more years of the single life ahead!

George Dodds son
wm
Jul 1881
18


CA/OH/IA farm laborer


William Lowery
boarder
wm
May 1870
30


OH/OH/OH
sewing machine agt.


Manuel Lomas
boarder
wm
Nov 1871
28


Portugal/Port.Port.
sheep herder



From the 29 May 1910 Census of Redding Twp., Shastas Co., CA
Address/
Res/Fam
Name
Relat
2HoH
Race/
Sex
Est.
DOB
Age
Marr.
Stat./
Yrs.Md.
Ch.Bn./
Ch.Lvg.
POB
S/F/M
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
Market Street/
(illeg.)/279
William H. Dodds
head
wm
1878
32
m1/8

CA/OH/IA
cement contractor
Here at last is Georgie's dad. They've been married 8 years, so they were m. ca. 1902. We'll look for him in 1880 in California at age 2 and see if his parents are from these states.

Letisha Dodds
wife
wf
1877
33
m2/8
6/3
MO/MO/MO

They've lost three! How sad. I wonder how old and who the ones were who died.

Sadie M. Dodds dau
wf
1903
7
s

CA/CA/MO



Georgia L. Dodds dau
wf
1905
5
s

CA/CA/MO
This is Georgie Louise Dodds.

Ethel H. Dodds dau
wf
1907
3
s

CA/CA/MO








R E Y N O L D S


Order of Research for this Line:
1. We started with what we already knew, that Mary A. James was certainly married to this William Reynolds.
2. Noticing that William was b. in MO in Jan 1846 (from the 1900 census), we looked for him in the 1850 census and found one Wm. Reynolds in Macon Co., so we copied that census data (see bottom of this Reynolds section).
3. Then we copied the 1880 census data we already had from the James section and noticed that their firstborn, Cindy, COULD have been named for her possible paternal grandmother, Cyndrella. (Could've looked at 5.01 below--duh.)
4. Now we're searching the 1870 census for the Reynolds family in Macon Co.--without success, so far--so we suspect a misspelling or mistranscription of the last name...
...and here we stop on 23 Jun 2008 for the call of items of higher priority on the DO List!  :-)



24.00--William Reynolds, b. in MO Jan 1846 [age 36 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; [age 54 in the 6 Jun 1900 census of Lucerne Twp., Hanford, Kings Co., CA]); d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. 12 Feb 1864 in Macon Co., MO, to Mary A. James (b. 22 Nov 1845 [but 1900 census reports Mar 1845] [age 16 in the 22 Nov 1850 census of District 52, comprising Macon Co., MO]; [age 14 in the 7 Jul 1860 census of Hudson Twp., Macon, Macon Co., MO]; [age 36 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; [age 55 in the 6 Jun 1900 census of Lucerne Twp., Hanford, Kings Co., CA]; d. 22 Jun 1918); at least 4 ch.

25.01--Cindy E. Reynolds, b. in MO ca. 1865 [age 15 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.02--James Albert "Albert" Reynolds, b. in MO Mar 1867 [age 13 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; [age 33 in the 6 Jun 1900 census of Lucerne Twp., Hanford, Kings Co., CA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. "Annie" (nee unk.; b. May 1874; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least 3 ch.

[Kathy Douglas Note: Uncle Alfred was Leticia's brother, but the info says that his name is James Albert, so now I am confused.]

26.1--Rosetta Reynolds, b. in MO Mar 1889 [age 11 in the 6 Jun 1900 census of Lucerne Twp., Hanford, Kings Co., CA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.2--Addie M. Reynolds, b. in MO May 1893 [age 7 in the 6 Jun 1900 census of Lucerne Twp., Hanford, Kings Co., CA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.3--Lottie Reynolds, b. in MO Jan 1895 [age 5 in the 6 Jun 1900 census of Lucerne Twp., Hanford, Kings Co., CA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.03?--Littisha/Leticia Reynolds, b. in MO ca. 1876 [age 4 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m1. Mr. Dodds; m2. Lee Brown

26.00--Georgie Louise Dodds, b. 4 Sep 1904; d. Oct 1989; bd. unk.; m. on 6 Feb 1924 in Compton, CA, to Lester Sylvester Brown (Mike Brown's grandfather, b. 15 May 1895 in NE [age 5 in 4 Jun 1900 census of Medicine, Lincoln Co., NE] [age 14 in 3 May 1910 census of Armona, Kings Co., CA, where he is living with his sister Rosa] [age 24 in 19 Jan 1920 census of Armona, Kings Co., CA, where he is a single man and a laborer living with Royal E. and their mother Elizabeth A.]; d. May 1969); 3 ch.

27.01--LeRoy Henry Brown b. 1925; d. 31 Oct 2006

28.01--Mike Brown, b. in CA; m. Sally [PRIVATE]

27.02--Georgia Lovern Brown, twin, b. 12 Oct 1930; d. Feb. 1990;

27.03--George Lester Brown, twin, b. 12 Oct 1930; m. Joanne Caroline Shaw (b. 18 Mar 1932)

28.01--Kenneth Clark Brown, b. 6 Sep 1956 in Long Beach, CA; m1. Janice Casey Jones; div.; m2. 1 Jun 1996 to Margo Melinda Morales;

29.01--Greg Brown, b.

29.02--Leslie Brown, b.

KCB m2. Margo Melinda Morales;

28.02--Kathleen "Kathy" Louise Brown, b. ca. 1957 in Long Beach, LA Co., CA; is a registered nurse and lactation consultant in Las Cruces, NM; m. 20 Aug 1977 in CA to Gordon Alan Douglas (b. ca. 1956 in CA; is Pastor of Family Ministries at First Evangelical Free Church in Las Cruces, NM); 4 ch.

29.01--Kara Marie Douglas, b. 28 Jan 1981 in Lake Forest, IL; m. 9 Jun 2006 at the Farm and Ranch Museum in Las Cruces, NM, to Jeremiah "Jeremy" Scott Gwin (b. 3 Oct 1978 in Las Cruces, NM; civil engineer with Parsons-Brinckerhoff in Albuquerque); she is a student at the UNM School of Medicine;

29.02--Jessica Anne Douglas, b. 15 Aug 1984 in Fresno, CA;

29.03--Elisabeth "Beth" Danielle Douglas, b. 29 May 1987 in Visalia, CA;

29.04--Rebecca Carey Douglas, b. 3 May 1989 in Visalia, CA;


25.04?--Dollie E. Reynolds, b. in MO ca. 1879 [age 1 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.



Some Pertinent Reynolds Family Census Data:


From the 19 Nov 1850 Census of District 52, Being Macon Co., MO
Res/Fam
Name
Sex
DOB
[est.]
Age
Real
E$t.
POB
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
883/893
James Reynolds
m
1820
30
[BLANK]
KY
farmer
This could be the father of our William. This is the only William I could find in 1850 in Macon Co. (there were quite a few others, but all were in other counties). 

Cyndrella Reynolds

23

KY



William Reynolds

7

MO

Actually, I need to start at our William's last known census, 1880, and work BACKWARD rather than starting in 1850 and guessing. I'll copy and paste his 1880 census record from the James Page.

George Reynolds

5

MO



Gilbert Reynolds

3

MO



From the 14 Jun 1880 Census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO
Res/Fam
Name
Relat.
2HoH
Sex
DOB
[est.]
Age
Marr.
Stat.
POB
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
94/96
Hamton James head
wm
1830
50
m
KY/NC/NC
farmer
This is our Hampton and his wife Emily, still in Macon Co.  I wonder why we couldn't find any of these in 1870. Probably I'll have to do a search of the whole county; then maybe we'll find that Ancestry.com mistranscribed the last name...

Emly James wife
wf
1840
40
m
KY/OH/KY
keeping house
Hampton's wife was Emily, but we don't have her last name yet.

Ruthie J. James daughter
wf
1857
23
wd. or div.
MO/KY/KY
I wonder if she married a cousin to be still using the name James, or if she took her maiden name back after her husband died. Maybe we can find out if we can find her again in 1900. Oh, I notice in this same census that she is deaf and dumb. Hmm. I wonder if someone took advantage of her disability. Or maybe it was a shotgun wedding, and he tried to get out of it, getting the wrong end of the shotgun in the process, and she really did end up being a widow. Speculation aboundeth.

George James grandson
wm
1879
1
s
MO/MO/MO

119/123
Evangline James
head
wf
1830
50
wd. or div. IN/VA/OH
keeping house
I have no idea who this is, but she is a James widow living in the same township as Hampton, so we'll include her.

Maggie James
daughter
wf
1870
10
s
MO/KY/IN


Caroline James
daughter
wf
1872
8
s
MO/KY/IN

124/128
William Reynolds head
wm
1844
36
m
MO/KY/KY
farmer
Here is William Reynolds in 1880, still in the same place.

Mary A. Reynolds wife
wf
1844
36
m
MO/NC/NC
keeping house


Cindy E. Reynolds daughter wf
1865
15
s
MO/MO/MO
Looking for clues that the William we found in the 1850 census might be ours indeed, I see that this Cindy--William and Mary's firstborn daughter--COULD have been named for her paternal grandmother Cyndrella. I know it's a weak clue; nonetheless, we noticed it.

James A. Reynolds son wm
1867
13
s
MO/MO/MO works on farm


Letticia Reynolds daughter wf
1876
4
s
MO/MO/MO


Dolly E. Reynolds daughter wf
1879
1
s
MO/MO/MO


Ruth A. James
mother-in-law
wf
1804
76
wd
NC/NC/NC

It is noted that she cannot read or write.
125/129
Alford James
head
wm
1840
40
m
MO/NC/NC
Farmer
Alfred is living right next door to William and Mary. (When looking for him on Ancestry.com, you must search for Alford, as that's what the enumerator wrote.)

Mary E. James wife
wf
1846
34
m
IL/NY/VA
keeping house
It is noted that she cannot read or write.

John James son
wm
1867
13
s
MO/MO/IL
works farm
This is who the 1870 census identifies as John Price James. It is noted here that he cannot write.

Cynthia A. James dau
wf
1875
5
s
MO/MO/IL
Cynthia is the only child in a 12-year interlude between John and David, indicating to me that there must've been some miscarriages and/or other deaths in between.

David H. James son
wm
1879
1
s
MO/MO/IL
I found this David in 1900 and list him and his bride in that census in the next line below
193/194
D. H. James
head
wm
July 1879
20
m:1yr
MO/MO/VA
farm
Here is David H. James and his new (and young!) bride in the 20 Jun 1900 Census of Lingo Twp. of Macon Co., MO.

Minnie James
wife
wf
July 1884
15
m:1yr
ch:0/0
MO/MO/MO






















J A M E S




Are we kin to THE Jesse James?
What does the evidence say so far?

[Mike Brown Note:  The James name enters on my grandmother Georgie Dodd's line.  As I mentioned previously, her mother is Littisha, or Letisha, Reynolds (m. Dodds), who married Lee B. Brown in 1922.  Littisha's parents are William Reynolds and Mary A. James, married Feb 12, 1864, in Macon Co., MO., and who came to CA, I believe, in the 1890's.  Mary James' death certificate lists her birth as Nov. 22, 1845, and her death date is June 22, 1918.  Her father is listed as A. James and mother as Ruth Smith.  In The 1850 census of District 22, Macon Co., MO., I found an Alfred James, age 45, and wife Ruth, age 45, and one of their children is Mary A., age 10 (putting her birth year in 1840, not 1845 as indicated on the death cert.).  A brother named Hampton is on the same census, and I found a Hampton James living in CA with Mary A. and husband William Reynolds in the 1900 census, so I'm fairly certain I have the correct family.  Beyond this, I'm not sure how to proceed to connect our family with the infamous outlaw. Kathy and I have viewed the Jesse James family tree, and none of us has found a connection.  But it's compelling because Jesse (b.1847) and Mary A. are born in the same generation and in the same state, although different counties.  Perhaps distant cousins?]

[John M. Gwin Note: Mike, Kathy, and all,
I'm also looking at the two, and I can't see a connection yet, either. However, let's continue to add to the two lines side by side as you see immediately below, because
(1) we have no knowledge yet of siblings or parents of Georgie's ancestor 3.0--Albert James (husband of Ruth A. Smith), and
(2) we have no assurance that our list of the children of Jesse's ancestors 3.0--William and Mary Hines James is complete;
(3)
we're not even sure that what we have as Jesse's line is accurate (see, for instance, the Editor's Note at the bottom of that column). 

For example, Georgie's ancestor 3.0--Albert COULD be
(a) a nephew of Jesse's ancestor 1.0--William James (h/o Mary Hines),
(b) a grandson of this same 1.0--Wm. and Mary through an unlisted son older than 2.1--John M. James, or
(c) another relation of which we've not yet thought.

Don't give up yet!  :-)]

 


Georgie Dodd
's Line

Jesse James' Line
As borrowed from the wonderful site at
http://dgmweb.net/genealogy/Pedigrees/0/JJ1-JesseJames.shtml
23.0--Albert James, b. ca. 1799 in NC [age 61 in the 7 Jul 1860 census of Hudson Twp., Macon, Macon Co., MO]; ; d. bef. 1880; bd. unk.; m. Ruth A. Smith, b. in NC ca. 1799-1804 [age 61 in the 7 Jul 1860 census of Hudson Twp., Macon, Macon Co., MO]; [age 76 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO, living as a widow in the home of Wm. and Mary A. Reynolds and listed as mother-in-law]; ; d. aft. 1880; bd. unk.; at least 10 ch.


Meet the Eleven Known Children of Albert and Ruth Smith James:

24.01--William James, b. ca.1825; m. Delilah (nee unk.)
24.02--unknown son, b. est. 1828; speculated to be the husband of Evangeline (nee unk.)
24.03--Hampton James, b. 1830; m. Emily (nee unk.)

24.04--Sally James, b. ca.1833; m. unk.

5-year gap--probably more children here

24.05--Abner James, b. ca.1838; m. Sarah E. (nee unk.)
24.06--Alfred James, b. ca.1838-40; m. Mary E. (nee unk.)

4-6-year gap--probably more children here

24.07--Henry James, b. ca.1844; m. unk.
24.08--Mary A. James, b. 1845; m. William Reynolds
24.09--Moses James, b. ca.1848; m. unk.
24.10--Ruth James, b. ca.1850; m. unk.
24.11--Mahala James, b. ca.1852; m. unk.


And now here they are again in more detail:


24.01--William James, b. 1825 or 1828 in KY [age 22 in the 30 Nov 1850 census of District 52, comprising Macon Co., MO];[age 35 in the 7 Jul 1860 census of Hudson Twp., Macon, Macon Co., MO]; ; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. est. 1849, prob. in Macon Co., MO, to Delilah (nee unk.; b. ca. 1830 in IL [age 19 in the 30 Nov 1850 census of District 52, comprising Macon Co., MO]; [age 30 in the 7 Jul 1860 census of Hudson Twp., Macon, Macon Co., MO]; ; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least one ch.

25.1--Mary Jane James, b. ca. 1853 [age 7 in the 7 Jul 1860 census of Hudson Twp., Macon, Macon Co., MO];

24.02--speculated unk. son James, b. est. 1828, since the husband is usu. a couple of years older than the wife, and I'm guessing that this Evangeline is his widow.
From the 14 Jun 1880 Census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO
Res/Fam
Name
Relat.
2HoH
Sex
DOB
[est.]
Age
Marr.
Stat.
POB
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
119/123
Evangline James
head
wf
1830
50
wd. or div. IN/VA/OH
keeping house
I have an idea who this is, possibly the widow of  an older son of Albert and Ruth; she's definitely a James widow (or possibly divorcee) living in the same township as Hampton, so we'll include her.

Maggie James
daughter
wf
1870
10
s
MO/KY/IN


Caroline James
daughter
wf
1872
8
s
MO/KY/IN


24.03--Hampton James, b. in KY Sep 1830 [age 20 in the 22 Nov 1850 census of District 52, comprising Macon Co., MO]; [age 50 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; [age 69 in the 6 Jun 1900 census of Lucerne Twp., Hanford, Kings Co., CA]; d. unk.; m. bef. 1857 in unk. place to Emily (nee unk.; b. in KY ca. 1840  [age 40 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; d. unk.) at least 1 ch.

25.0--Ruth "Ruthie" J. James, b. ca. 1857 [listed as a widow, deaf and dumb, age 23, in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; d. aft. 1880; bd. unk.; m. unk. (b. unk.; d. unk.); at least 1 ch.

26.0--George James, b. in MO ca. 1879 [age 1 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; d. aft. 1880; bd. unk.; m. unk. (b. unk.; d. unk.); unk. ch.

24.04--Sally James, b. in MO ca. 1833 [age 17 in the 22 Nov 1850 census of District 52, comprising Macon Co., MO]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

24.05--Abner James, b. ca. 1838 [age 16 in the 22 Nov 1850 census of District 52, comprising Macon Co., MO]; [age 22 in the 7 Jul 1860 census of Hudson Twp., Macon, Macon Co., MO, and living with his parents with his wife]; ; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. Sarah E. (nee unk., b. in MO [listed as "domestic" ,age 20, in the 7 Jul 1860 census of Hudson Twp., Macon, Macon Co., MO, living in her in-laws' home with her husband]; ; d. aft. 1860; bd. unk.; unk. ch.

24.06--Alfred James, b. in MO ca. 1838-40 [age 14 in the 22 Nov 1850 census of District 52, comprising Macon Co., MO]; [age 18 in the 7 Jul 1860 census of Hudson Twp., Macon, Macon Co., MO]; [age 40 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; ; d. aft. 1880; bd. unk.; m. Mary E. (nee unk.; b. in IL ca. 1846 [age 34 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; d. aft. 1880; bd. unk.); at least 3 ch.

25.01--John Price James, b. in MO ca. 1867 [age 2 in the 29 Jun 1870 census of Liberty Twp., La Plata, Macon Co., MO]; [age 13 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.02?--Cynthia A. Reynolds, b. in MO ca. 1875 [age 5 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.03?--David H. Reynolds, b. in MO ca. 1879 [age 1 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

24.07--Henry James, b. in MO ca. 1844 [age 16 in the 22 Nov 1850 census of District 52, comprising Macon Co., MO]; [age 16 in the 7 Jul 1860 census of Hudson Twp., Macon, Macon Co., MO];; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

24.08--Mary A. James, b. 22 Nov 1845 (but 1900 census reports Mar 1845) [age 16 in the 22 Nov 1850 census of District 52, comprising Macon Co., MO]; [age 14 in the 7 Jul 1860 census of Hudson Twp., Macon, Macon Co., MO]; [age 36 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; [age 55 in the 6 Jun 1900 census of Lucerne Twp., Hanford, Kings Co., CA]; d. 22 Jun 1918; m. 12 Feb 1864 in Macon Co., MO, to William Reynolds (b. in MO Jan 1846 [age 36 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; [age 54 in the 6 Jun 1900 census of Lucerne Twp., Hanford, Kings Co., CA])

25.01--Cindy E. Reynolds, b. in MO ca. 1865 [age 15 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.02--James Albert "Albert" Reynolds, b. in MO Mar 1867 [age 13 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; [age 33 in the 6 Jun 1900 census of Lucerne Twp., Hanford, Kings Co., CA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. "Annie" (nee unk.; b. May 1874; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least 3 ch.

26.01--Rosetta Reynolds, b. in MO Mar 1889 [age 11 in the 6 Jun 1900 census of Lucerne Twp., Hanford, Kings Co., CA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.02--Addie M. Reynolds, b. in MO May 1893 [age 7 in the 6 Jun 1900 census of Lucerne Twp., Hanford, Kings Co., CA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.03--Lottie Reynolds, b. in MO Jan 1895 [age 5 in the 6 Jun 1900 census of Lucerne Twp., Hanford, Kings Co., CA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.0(3?)--Littisha/Leticia Reynolds, b. in MO ca. 1876 [age 4 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m1. Mr. Dodds; m2. Lee Brown

26.00--Georgie Louise Dodds, b. 4 Sep 1904; d. Oct 1989; bd. unk.; m. on 6 Feb 1924 in Compton, CA, to Lester Sylvester Brown (my grandfather, b. 15 May 1895 in NE [age 5 in 4 Jun 1900 census of Medicine, Lincoln Co., NE] [age 14 in 3 May 1910 census of Armona, Kings Co., CA, where he is living with his sister Rosa] [age 24 in 19 Jan 1920 census of Armona, Kings Co., CA, where he is a single man and a laborer living with Royal E. and their mother Elizabeth A.]; d. May 1969); 3 ch.

27.01--LeRoy Henry Brown b. 1925; d. 31 Oct 2006

28.01--Mike Brown, b. in CA; m. Sally [PRIVATE]

27.02--Georgia Lovern Brown, twin, b. 12 Oct 1930; d. Feb. 1990;

27.03--George Lester Brown, twin, b. 12 Oct 1930; m. Joanne Caroline Shaw (b. 18 Mar 1932)

28.01--Kenneth Clark Brown, b. 6 Sep 1956 in Long Beach, CA; m1. Janice Casey Jones; div.; m2. 1 Jun 1996 to Margo Melinda Morales;

29.01--Greg Brown, b.

29.02--Leslie Brown, b.

KCB m2. Margo Melinda Morales;

28.02--Kathleen "Kathy" Louise Brown, b. ca. 1957 in Long Beach, LA Co., CA; is a registered nurse and lactation consultant in Las Cruces, NM; m. 20 Aug 1977 in CA to Gordon Alan Douglas (b. ca. 1956 in CA; is Pastor of Family Ministries at First Evangelical Free Church in Las Cruces, NM); 4 ch.

29.01--Kara Marie Douglas, b. 28 Jan 1981 in Lake Forest, IL; m. 9 Jun 2006 at the Farm and Ranch Museum in Las Cruces, NM, to Jeremiah "Jeremy" Scott Gwin (b. 3 Oct 1978 in Las Cruces, NM; civil engineer with Parsons-Brinckerhoff in Albuquerque); she is a student at the UNM School of Medicine;

29.02--Jessica Anne Douglas, b. 15 Aug 1984 in Fresno, CA;

29.03--Elisabeth "Beth" Danielle Douglas, b. 29 May 1987 in Visalia, CA;

29.04--Rebecca Carey Douglas, b. 3 May 1989 in Visalia, CA;

5.0(4?)--Dollie E. Reynolds, b. in MO ca. 1879 [age 1 in the 14 Jun 1880 census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

24.09--Moses James, b. in MO ca. 1848 [age 8 in the 22 Nov 1850 census of District 52, comprising Macon Co., MO]; [age 12 in the 7 Jul 1860 census of Hudson Twp., Macon, Macon Co., MO]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

24.10--Ruth Ann James, b. in MO ca. 1850 [age 6 in the 22 Nov 1850 census of District 52, comprising Macon Co., MO]; [age 10 in the 7 Jul 1860 census of Hudson Twp., Macon, Macon Co., MO]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

24.11--Mahala James, b. in MO ca. 1852 [age 8 in the 7 Jul 1860 census of Hudson Twp., Macon, Macon Co., MO] ; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.



1.0--William James, b. England; d. VA; m. Mary Hines (b. England; d. VA); at least 7 ch.

2.1--John M. James, b. 1775, Hanover Co., VA; d. ca. 1827, Logan Co., KY; m. Mary "Polly" Poor (b. 1790, Goochland Co., VA; d. 1827
 
3.1--Mary James, b. 28 Sep 1809 {1850: 40, VA; 1860: 51, KY}

3.2--(Daughter A) James, b. 1810-20

3.3--William James, b. 11 Sep 1811

3.4--John R. James, b. 15 Feb 1815

3.5--Elizabeth James, b. 25 Nov 1816

3.6--Robert Sallee James, b. 7 or 17 Jul 1818 in Logan Co., KY; d. 1850 in
CA; a Baptist minister; m. in Scott Co., KY, in 1841, to Zerelda Elizabeth Cole (b. 1825 in Woodford Co., KY;

4.1--Alexander Franklin "Frank" James, b. 10 Jan 1843

4.2--Robert James, b. 19 Jul 1845; d. 23 Jul 1845;


4.3--Jesse Woodson James, b. in Clay Co., MO, 5 Sep 1847; d. 1882 in St. Joseph, MO; bd. unk.; m. 24 Apr 1874 to Zerelda Amanda "Zee" Mimms; unk. ch.

4.4--Susan Lavenia James, b. 25 Nov 1849;

3.7--Nancy Gardner James, b. 13 Sep 1821

3.8--Thomas Martin James, b. 8 Apr 1823 {1850: 27, KY; 1860: 37, KY

3.9--Drury Woodson James, b. 14 Nov 1826

2.2--Nancy Ann James, b. 24 Feb 1777, Hanover Co., VA

2.3--Mary James, b. bef. 1780; m. 22 Dec 1796, Edward Lee

2.4--William James, b. 27 Apr 1782, d 1807

2.5--Thomas James, b. 14 Dec 1783; m. 3 Sep 1834, Goochland Co., VA, Mary B.
Davis


2.6--Martin James, b. 1789, d. 1867; m. 21 Nov 1825, Goochland Co., VA, Elizabeth Key

2.7--Richard James, b. bef. 1795; m. 8 Dec 1813, Goochland Co., VA, Mary G. Poor

[Editor's Note: These are very late first marriages for Thomas and Martin.  I wonder if a generation hasn't been skipped here.]
















Some Pertinent James Family Census Data:


From the 22 and 30 Nov 1850 Census of District No. 52, being the County of Macon, MO
Res/Fam
Name
Sex
DOB
[est.]
Age
Real
E$t.
POB
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
918/928
Alfred James
m
1805
45
[BLANK]
NC
farmer


Ruth James
f
1805
45

NC



Hampton James
m
1830
20

KY
farmer


Abner James
m
1834
16

MO
farmer


Alfred James m
1836
14

MO


Sally James f
1833
17

MO


Henry James m
1838
12

MO


Mary Ann James f
1840
10

MO
Given that the parents of our Mary A. James (who was born in 1845--according to her birth certificate--and who married William Reynolds) were A. James and Ruth (nee Smith) James, it does, as Mike Brown believes, stand to reason that this is indeed she in the 1850 census. This is clearly the case now that we see all the other siblings' names from all the censuses

Moses James m
1842
8

MO


Ruth Ann James f
1844
6

MO

1018/1029
William James
m
1828
22

KY
miller
This is Alfred and Ruth's firstborn and his new bride.

Dellilah
f
1831
19

IL

Delilah (transcribed by Ancestry.com as Deldilah)

From the 7 Jul 1860 Census of Hudson Twp., Macon, Macon Co., MO
Res/Fam
Name
Sex
DOB
[est.]
Age
Real E$t./
Pers. E$t.
POB
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
822/822
William James
m
1825
35
---/100
KY
farmer
My guess is that this is a son of Alfred who had already married and moved out of the house by 1850 and therefore doesn't appear there. The fact that they are living next-door to his parents, Alfred and and Ruth, is another huge clue. That he, like Hampton, is b. in KY settles it for me.

Delilah James f
1830
30

IL
dom [DOMESTIC]


Mary Jane James f
1853
7

MO



Michael Tuggle? Yuggle?
m
1838
22

Baden
laborer


Naomi Tuggle? Yuggle? f
1832
28

IL

The only apparent clue here is her POB--could this, then, be a sister of Delilah? Oh, DUH--of course!--that's why they're living in the same house!

Mary M. Tuggle? Yuggle? f
Oct 1859
10mos.

MO


823/823
Alfred James
m
1799
61
500/400
NC
farmer
Here is the patriarch himself. Hey, look at the ages of his entire family--nobody's aligns with the 1850 census but Hampton's! Since Mary A.'s is now aligned with her birth certificate date, however, let's say that the 1850 enumerator was bonkers and go with the 1860.

Oh, I don't know, now! In 1870, his and Ruth's ages are listed as 65!

Ruth James f
1799
61

NC
dom


Abner James m
1838
22
---/100
MO laborer


Sarah E. James f
1840
20

MO dom


Alfred James m
1842
18

MO


Henry James m
1844
16

MO laborer


Mary A. James f
1846
14

MO


Moses James m
1848
12

MO


Ruth James f
1850
10

MO


Mahala James f
1852
8

MO

824/824
Hampton James m
1830
29
---/200
KY
farmer


Emily James f
1833
27

KY
dom


Amanda E. James f
1854
6

MO


Ruth J. James f
1858
2

MO


Nancy E. James f
1859
1

MO


Alex James m
1840
20

KY



From the 8 Jul 1870 Census of Jackson Twp., Macon, Macon Co., MO

Res/Fam
Name
Race/
Sex
DOB
[est.]
Age
Real E$t./
Pers. E$t.
POB
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
240/248
Thomas James
wm
1838
32
450/400
KY
[BLANK]
This Thomas COULD easily fit between Sally (b. 1833) and Abner (b. 1838) without having to adjust much at all. He is born in Kentucky, however, which  is a little bit of a p;roblem, since Albert and Ruth left there between 1830 and 1833, according to Sally's census record, and moved to MO.

Clorinda James wf
1838
32

KY



John James wm
1864
6

IL



Irene James wf
1865
5

IL



Asgal James wm
1868
3

MO

What an interesting name!  I wonder if this is an accurate rendering.

Albert James wm
May 1870
2mos.

MO

This child's name is of great interest, since his grandfather (if indeed this is the right family) is also named Albert.


















































































































































From the 29 Jun 1870 Census of Liberty Twp., La Plata, Macon Co., MO
Res/Fam
Name
Race/
Sex
DOB
[est.]
Age
Real E$t./
Pers. E$t.
POB
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
55/55
Alfred James wm
1839
31
----/200
MO
farmer
Wow.  If this is the son of Alfred and Ruth, and I have no reason to believe it is not, then in 1860 he was listed as age 18!

Mary E. James wf
1846
24

IL
keeping house


John Price James wm
1868
2

MO


56/56
Alfred James wm
1805
65
800/600
NC
farmer
Great--we finally have them located in 1870!
Oh, figuring out these ages will be the death of me! Look at this:
Census:          Alfred's/Ruth's Ages:
1850:                    45/45
1860:                    61/61
1870:                    65/65
Now it looks like the 1860 enumerator was messed up!

Rutha James wf
1805
65

NC
keeping house Ruth A., for Pete's sake.
77/77
George H. James
wm
1839
31
600/800
MO
farmer
I'm not sure who this family is yet, but there are too many things in common not to list it.

Catharine James
wf
1801
69

NC
keeping house
This is most likely his mother (possibly his aunt)--and she, like Albert and Ruth A.--is from NC. Could she be a sister or sister-in-law to Albert?
5/5
Chas. James
wm
1814
56
800/700
KY
Farmer
Another unknown James family from Kentucky...

Averilla James wf
1831
39

IN
Keeping House


Mary J. James wf
1853
17

MO



Catherine James wf
1859
11

MO



John M. James wm
1869
1

MO































































































From the 14 Jun 1880 Census of Valley Twp., Macon Co., MO
Res/Fam
Name
Relat.
2HoH
Sex
DOB
[est.]
Age
Marr.
Stat.
POB
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
94/96
Hamton James head
wm
1830
50
m
KY/NC/NC
farmer
This is our Hampton and his wife Emily, still in Macon Co.  I wonder why we couldn't find any of these in 1870. Probably I'll have to do a search of the whole county; then maybe we'll find that Ancestry.com mistranscribed the last name...

Emly James wife
wf
1840
40
m
KY/OH/KY
keeping house
Hampton's wife was Emily, but we don't have her last name yet.

Ruthie J. James daughter
wf
1857
23
wd. or div.
MO/KY/KY
I wonder if she married a cousin to be still using the name James, or if she took her maiden name back after her husband died. Maybe we can find out if we can find her again in 1900. Oh, I notice in this same census that she is deaf and dumb. Hmm. I wonder if someone took advantage of her disability. Or maybe it was a shotgun wedding, and he tried to get out of it, getting the wrong end of the shotgun in the process, and she really did end up being a widow. Speculation aboundeth.

George James grandson
wm
1879
1
s
MO/MO/MO

119/123
Evangline James
head
wf
1830
50
wd. or div. IN/VA/OH
keeping house
I have no idea who this is, but she is a James widow living in the same township as Hampton, so we'll include her.

Maggie James
daughter
wf
1870
10
s
MO/KY/IN


Caroline James
daughter
wf
1872
8
s
MO/KY/IN

124/128
William Reynolds head
wm
1844
36
m
MO/KY/KY
farmer
Here is William Reynolds in 1880, still in the same place.

Mary A. Reynolds wife
wf
1844
36
m
MO/NC/NC
keeping house


Cindy E. Reynolds daughter wf
1865
15
s
MO/MO/MO


James A. Reynolds son wm
1867
13
s
MO/MO/MO works on farm


Letticia Reynolds daughter wf
1876
4
s
MO/MO/MO


Dolly E. Reynolds daughter wf
1879
1
s
MO/MO/MO


Ruth A. James
mother-in-law
wf
1804
76
wd
NC/NC/NC

It is noted that she cannot read or write.
125/129
Alford James
head
wm
1840
40
m
MO/NC/NC
Farmer
Alfred is living right next door to William and Mary. (When looking for him on Ancestry.com, you must search for Alford, as that's what the enumerator wrote.)

Mary E. James wife
wf
1846
34
m
IL/NY/VA
keeping house
It is noted that she cannot read or write.

John James son
wm
1867
13
s
MO/MO/IL
works farm
This is who the 1870 census identifies as John Price James. It is noted here that he cannot write.

Cynthia A. James dau
wf
1875
5
s
MO/MO/IL
Cynthia is the only child in a 12-year interlude between John and David, indicating to me that there must've been some miscarriages and/or other deaths in between.

David H. James son
wm
1879
1
s
MO/MO/IL
I found this David in 1900 and list him and his bride in that census in the next line below
193/194
D. H. James
head
wm
July 1879
20
m:1yr
MO/MO/VA
farm
Here is David H. James and his new (and young!) bride in the 20 Jun 1900 Census of Lingo Twp. of Macon Co., MO.

Minnie James
wife
wf
July 1884
15
m:1yr
ch:0/0
MO/MO/MO













From the 6 Jun 1900 Census of Lucerne Twp., Hanford, Kings Co., CA
Res/Fam
Name
Relat
2HoH
Race/
Sex
DOB
Age
Marr.
Stat./
Yrs.Md.
Ch.Bn./
Ch.Lvg.
POB
S/F/M
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
113 W. 4th/ 84/95
William Reynolds
head
wm
Jan 1846
54
m/36

MO/KY/KY
farmer


Mary A. Reynolds wife
wf
Mar 1845
55
m/36
8/3
MO/SC/KY

I agree with Mike Brown--this group HAS to be our Mary A. James Reynolds, her husband (above), their son's family, and her brother (4th below).

Rosetta Reynolds gr-daughter
wf
Mar 1889
11
s

MO/MO/MO


Addie M. Reynolds gr-daughter
wf
May 1893
7
s

MO/MO/MO


Lottie Reynolds gr-daughter
wf
Jan 1895
5
s

MO/MO/MO


Hampton James
bro-in-law
wm
Sep 1830
69
wd
---/4
KY/SC/KY
none


James A. Reynolds son
wm
Mar 1867
33
m/12

MO/MO/MO laborer
This is Mary A. James Reynolds' son as well, of course, so the three granddaughters, above, are likely James' and Annie's daughters (they've been marred 12 years, and the oldest is 11--that's a pretty good clue. Mike Brown read this and added the following: "Incidently, the James A. Reynolds that was already 33 yrs. old in the 1900 census, I met as a little boy, when he was in his 90's.  We called him Uncle Alfred (his middle name).  And you are correct that the three girls are his and Annie's daughter's.  Addie was his care giver when I met him.  Littisha is not there with her family in 1900 because she was up north getting married to William H. Dodds, Jr.   I believe I have their marriage date and place at home which I will forward to you."

Annie Reynolds dau-in-law
wf
May 1874
36
m/12

MO/MO/MO





Some Interesting Communication:


Teddie Smith wrote me, and I replied with a cc to Mike Brown who sent me back the following:

Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008
From: tks1202atsbcglobaldotnet
Subject: RE: William Reynolds and Mary Ann James of Macon County, Missouri
To: mlbsjbayhotmaildotcom

Mike,
I too have heard from our families that we were kin to the Jesse James family.  I have yet to make a solid connection (proof) but do have a good scenario on how it could possibly be.

I feel Abner and Alfred's father, Thomas James, and mother, Unknown (possibly Mary B. Davis) was possibly Robert Sallee James's uncle.  Reason: Abner and Alfred's sister Elizabeth Marie James married Elijah Leach of Adair Co., KY; in one of the census records (cannot recall year without looking it up), Elijah and Elizabeth have living with them an uncle, William James (this William James' age is about the same age as Thomas James'). I think this William James to be the William James that married Mary Stokes (daughter of Sylvanius Stokes and Temperance Clark).  William and Mary had no children.

Our Thomas and his brother William could very well be Robert Sallee James' uncles. Their births being around 1783 in Virgina fits into the theory of Thomas and William who were Robert Sallee's uncles.

Here is some questionable evidence of William James and wife Mary Stokes being uncle to our Abner and Alfred:  Abner James and Catherine Smith named one of their sons Sylvanius Stokes James; also, another of Abner and Catherine Smith's sons, William S. James and his wife Martha Smoot, named their son Sylvanius Stokes James; and again another of Abner and Catherine's children, Ophelia Jane James and her husband Joseph W. Brown, named a son Sylvanius S. BrownThe name was a family name, I believe after Abner and Alfred James' aunt Mary Stokes' father, who I believe to have been a namesake himself--either the 3rd or 4th Sylvanius Stokes.

I have not been able to find that very important piece of proof that is needed to prove or disprove this theroy, so I will continue on and hopefully one day it will all fall into place.
 
Our Catherine, Ruth and William Green Smith are children of Henry Smith and Ruth Green; at this time I only have one other child of Henry and Ruth, a Sarah Smith.  I am sure there are many more children that I have yet to find.
 
I am going to attach the Smith Family Tree and also the James Family Tree; just remember it is work in progress, and I am sure there are mistakes. Also sending a photo of William Green Smith, brother to Ruth Smith and Catherine Smith, and his son Harold Thomas Smith and Ada Elizabeth James.

If you find anything I have wrong, please let me know and I will correct it. If you have any questions let me know, and I will try to answer them.

Teddie Smith
tks1202atsbcglobaldotnet


Mike N' Sally <mlbsjbathotmaildotcom> wrote:
Always good to hear from 'family', Teddie.  Thank you for contacting me.  I am very interested in your information on the James and Smith families--I forwarded everything I had researched on the families to John Gwin, who put it out on his website, which you have seen.  By the way, were you also told that our James descendants were some how related to Jesse James?  I mostly have researched James, Dodds, Reynolds and Brown names, and any way I can help you in your research, please let me know.
Regards, Mike


Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008

To: mlbsjbathotmaildotcom

From: tks1202atsbcglobaldotnet
Subject: William Reynolds and Mary Ann James of Macon County, Missouri

Dear Mike,
My name is Teddie Smith, and I found your email on the Gwin Family web site.  I see that you are a direct descendant of William Reynolds and Mary Ann James.  I descend from Mary Ann James' uncle, Abner James, brother to Alfred James and Mary Ann's aunt Catherine M. Smith, sister to Ruth Smith. I also descend from Ruth and Catherine Smith's brother William Green Smith.  Very Confusing.  See Ruth, and Catherine Smith married brothers Alfred and Abner James.
Abner and Catherine's son George James, daughter Ada Elizabeth James married her 2nd cousin, Harold Thomas Smith, son of William Green Smith (brother to Ruth and Catherine); that is how my family came to be.  I have lots of information on the James and Smith families. I have been working on it for about 10 years and will probably still be working on it for another 50.... I will share if you are interested. I can't wait to hear from you.
My email is tks1202atsbcglobaldotnet
Have a great day
Teddie Smith








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