4.1--Mary Gwin--b. 1817; m1. 27 Dec. 1838 to Drury H. Roark; m2. on 17 May 1849 to Mr. Abel Turner
4.2--Thomas Gwin--b. ca. 1818-19; data unk.
4.3--Isom Gwin, b. 17 Mar 1817 in (prob. Shelby) Co., AL territory; d. 7 Dec 1853; m. 1837 to Mary Burdine Wilson; [MBWG m2. 28 Jan 1859 to John Steadman]
4.4--William Gwin, b.18 Dec 1820; d. 29 Apr 1889; m. 12 (13?) May 1842 RoseAnn "Roe" Carlisle Jones Wilson
4.5--Sarah Gwin, b. ca. 1826; d. 31 Mar 1885; m. 18 Mar 1841 to Louis Basset
4.6--Ann Gwin, b. ca. 1827--1845); m. 19 Jan 1843 to Joseph Lavalette Basset
4.7--Martha J. Gwin, b. ca.1828--unk).; m. 22 Apr 1847 to Jesse Comelander
4.8--Chesley R. Gwin; (ca.1828--after 6 Dec 1909); m1. 20 Mar 1850 Frances E. "Fannie" Bell; m2. 21 Dec 1870 to the widow, Mrs. Paralee Blevins Whitfield
4.9--Louisa A. Gwin, b. ca. 1829-30, bef. 1830 census; d. unk; bd. Cahaba's New Cem.; m1?. Mr. Gaviness; m2. on 17 May 1849 Mr.Wm. G. (or J.) McKnight.

4.8--Chesley "Chess" Richard Gwin; b. ca.1828 [age 22 on 7 Nov 1850 in census, but age 33 on 5 Jul 1860 census]; m1. 20 Mar 1850 at Bogue Chitto, Dallas Co., AL, to Mary Frances E. "Fannie" Bell, (b. ca. 1830--listed on 7 Nov 1850 census as age 20--she and C.R. Gwin are the only two people living in the home with John and Jane Gwin in that census; listed on 7 Jul 1860 census as M. F. Gwin, age 29--could her full name have been Mary Frances Elizabeth Bell?); allegedly daughter of a "Hard-shell" Baptist preacher; raised a big family (and Alice Foster-Blevins' Rootsweb site states that two of these children were a son, Chesley, and a daughter, Fannie, although no other info is listed); 3 children listed on the 1860 census (see below);

[In her 1992 letter to Roy L. Smith, Linda Derry said she had "some ads from the Dallas Gazette that mention the wagonshop of William J. Smith and Chesley Gwin in Liberty Hill;" while the only Liberty Hill now in Alabama is in the northeast corner of the state, my cemetery records book of Dallas Co. shows a Liberty cemetery about a mile south of White's Bluff on County Road 2--this would be about ten miles southwest of Cahaba, a very likely candidate for the site of this wagon shop.  And sure enough, the census of 5 July 1860 of Liberty Hill, Athens Beat, Dallas Co., AL, lists the C.R. Gwin family as living in residence #266, with the family of Wm. J. Smith living next door in #267.  The 1860 Census of Athens Beat, Liberty Hill Post Office, Dallas Co., AL, on 5 July lists C. R. Gwin, 33, wagonmaker, with real estate valued at $800 and personal property at $6425, b. in AL; wife M. F. Gwin, 29, b. in AL; and children W. J. Gwin, 8, male; J. I. Gwin, 6, male; and Enoch Gwin, 2, male, all b. in AL. The 1880 census of Dallas Co., AL, lists C. R. Gwin, age 53, a white, married, male, living in Browns, AL, with his wife, P. B., age 45, and a son, C. J., age 14.  I believe this is Chesley Richard for at least these three reasons: his age matches, his wife's middle initial B. could easily be for Blevins, and Browns is only about 9 miles nw of Bogue Chitto and less than a mile e. of Belvue where Chesley's grand-nephew (and my grandfather!) James Basset Gwin was born  21 Apr 1872. Mary Bell Guin, d.o. C.R. and M.E. Guin, listed as b. 1 Mar 1856 and d. 22 Jun (no yr), and her brother John I. Gwin (Dec. 24, 1853 - Oct. 4, 1907),  are bd. in the Bell Family Cem., e. of Rt. 5 on the county rd. at Weissinger Lakes, about 3 mi. s. of Browns, Dallas Co., AL; I visited this cemetery in Jul 2003 and again in Jul 2004 and took these pictures.]

[JMG NOTE:  Chesley is the maiden name of the alleged patriarch Richard Gwin's wife Sarah.  Uncle James used this fact to reinforce the alleged reliability of the Richard Gwin story.  But according to one transcriber, in his diary, Rev. Cotten calls him Charley more than once, with no mention of Chesley. Was Cotten hard of hearing, misinterpreting Chesley for Charley?  Or could the full name have been Charles Chesley Richard Gwin?  Could the transcriber have misread Charley for Chesley?  Charley, in Cotten's 22 March 1850 entry, was "getting married tonight to Miss Bell at Bogue Chitto". 
(A few months before my dad, Adrian S. Gwin, died, I asked him where Bogue Chitto is, and he said he guessed it was somewhere on Bogue Chitto Creek, which his family had to cross every time they went from McDowell to Selma and back--he said it's pronounced BOH-guh CHIT-uh Creek).  Sure enough, in January 2002, several miles west of Cahaba on County Road 180, I found this community and walked through the graveyard of one of the old churches there.]

5.1--W. J. Gwin, a son, b. ca. 1852 (age 8 in the 1860 census); d. unk.; bd. unk; m. unk; perhaps at least one child;

6.1--Maggie Gwin, b. ca. 1877 (age 3 and living in Cahaba in the 1880 census); d. unk.; bd. unk; m. unk; unk children;

[John M. Gwin Note: Maggie (probably Margaret) is listed in 1880 census as Chesley's granddaughter. Since her surname is Gwin, I assume she is the daughter of one of Chesley's sons. The youngest of the three known sons is C.J. Gwin, but he was only 14 in 1880, so if he were the dad, he'd've been only 11 when she was conceived--not very likely. John I. Gwin was still alive in 1880, so if he were the dad, why wouldn't she be living with him rather than with her grandparents? Enoch is working in Mississippi in 1880 and unmarried. By process of elimination, then, (and assuming we know and have listed all the sons), W. J. Gwin must be the dad.]

5.2--John I. Gwin, a son, b. 24 Dec 1853 (age 6 in the 1860 census); d. 4 Oct 1907.; bd. in the Bell Cem. just south of Browns in northwest Dallas Co. (see gravestone photos); m. unk; unk children; [John M. Gwin Note: I speculate that the second initial is for "Isom", as Chesley's oldest brother, Isom Gwin, died just 7 (or 17) days before this John was born; I also have a deed dated 24 May 1905 where John I. Gwin purchases a lot in Safford, Dallas Co., AL.]

5.3--Mary Bell Gwin, b. 1 Mar 1856, according to headstone; d. 22 Jun 1857; bd. in the Bell family cem. nears Browns, Dallas Co., AL (see gravestone photos);

5.4--Enoch Gwin, b. ca. 1858 (age 2 in the 1860 census); d. unk.; bd. unk; m. unk; unk children; in the 1880 Census there is only one Enoch Gwin in the USA, living in Beat 2, Washington Co., MS, in the home of Mr. and Mrs. James H. (Henrietta) Foster of Indiana and their three sons, working as a "clerk in store" (Mr. Foster is a "merchant"); this Enoch is single, white, a native of Alabama, and 22 years old--looks exactly like our Enoch should look, and I believe indeed this is he;

5.5--Lula Gwin, b. ca. 1861 (age 19 in the 1880 census); d. unk.; bd. unk; m. unk; unk children; [John M. Gwin Note: I speculate that Chesley's nephew (and my g-grandpa) William Sutton "Sutt" Gwin named his own daughter, Kate Lula Gwin, b. 4 Jul 1874, after this Lula (Sutt's own first cousin).]

5.6?.7?--C. J. Gwin, b. ca. 1866 (age14 in 1880 census); d. unk. (but probably in California--see Anna Todd's letter, below); bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

 [John M. Gwin Note: Anna Todd states that the 1910 census of Browns, AL, shows Chesley and Paralee as being married in or about 1868 (married 42 years in May 1910); therefore, it is likely, in my opinion, that Fannie died either in childbirth with this C. J. Gwin or shortly thereafter, and that Paralee married Chesley at least partly because of his need of someone to help care for the children.]

CRG m2. 21 Dec 1870, a widow, Mrs. Paralee (nee Blevins) Whitfield; no known children (indeed, in the 1900 census she claims to have borne no children and to have none living);
 

Above: From p. 29 of the Marriage License Records of the Judge of the Probate Court, Dallas Co., AL; photocopied by me, John M. Gwin, in the Office of the Judge of the Probate Court, Dallas Co., AL, July 2006

THE STATE OF ALABAMA, Dallas County, to any Ordained or Licensed Minister of the Gospel, Judge of the Circuit or Probate Court, or Justice of the Peace for said County, GREETING: You are hereby Authorized to celebrate the Rites of Matrimony between Chesley R. Gwin and Mrs. Patty B. Whitfield and this shall be your sufficient authority for so doing. Given under my hand and seal this 20 day of December, A. D. 1870, J. T. Conaley [L. S.], Judge of Probate. ------------ The above parties were married by me at Mrs. Blevins on the 21st day of Decr A. D. 1870, J. Cooper Waddill, M. G. Fifty Dollars Fine for failing to return this License. ------------------------------------ THE STATE OF ALABAMA, DALLAS COUNTY, Know all Men by these Presents, That we, C. R. Gwin and _________________ are held and firmly bound unto the State of Alabama in the sum of Five Hundred Dollars, to the which payment, well and truly to be made, we bind ourselves, our heirs, executors, adminstrators and assigns, jointly and severally, firmly by these presents. Sealed with our seals and dated this 20 day of Decr 1870. THE CONDITION OF THE ABOVE OBLIGATION IS SUCH, That if there be no legal cause to obstruct the marriage of Chesley R. Gwin & Mrs. Patty B. Whitfield to whom a License has this day been granted, then to be void; else to remain in full force and virtue. Witness our hands and seals the day and year above written. C. R. Gwin [L.S.] H. H. Stewart [L. S.] Attest J. T. Conaley, Judge of the Probate Court

Res.	Last name	First name	Age	Sex	Race	Occupation	Real Prop.	POB	Can't Read or Write	JMG Comments
585	Gwin	John	58	M	W	Wheelwright	$1200	TN	checked
	Gwin	Jane	56	F	W			TN
	Gwin	C. R.	22	M	W			AL
	Gwin	Frances E.	20	F	W			AL

Res./Fam.	Last name	First name	Age	Sex	Race	Occupation	Real Prop.	Pers.  Prop.	POB	JMG Comments
266/261	Gwin	C. R.	33	M	W	Wagon Maker	$800	$6425	AL
	Gwin	M. F.	29	F	W				AL	Mary Frances "Fannie" Elizabeth Bell must have been pregnant with Little Fannie at this time.  It's the last time we see her alive.  We know she was alive to give birth to Little Chesley in about 1866, but what happened?  Did she die in childbirth with him?  She is not mentioned in the book Vital Data from Cemeteries in Dallas County, Alabama as being buried in the Bell cemetery (near Browns) where her daughter Mary Bell Gwin is buried.
	Gwin	W. J.	8	M	W				AL
	Gwin	J. I.	6	M	W				AL	see my note in the outline above
	Gwin	Enoch	2	M	W				AL

U.S. Census of Dallas Co., Alabama, Liberty Hill Post Office, 26 Aug 1870

Res./Fam.	Last name	First name	Age	Sex	Race	Occupation	Real  Prop.	Pers.  Prop.	POB	Att. sch. w/in this year	JMG Comments
288/293	Gwin	C. R.	43	M	W	Merchant	$200	$500	AL		This is Chesley Richard, John's and Jane's youngest son, who is now a widower--the wife of his youth Fannie has left him with three teens and a toddler to raise alone.  It is clear that he needed some help, and the widow, Paralee Blevins, would come along just in time.
	Gwin	John	16	M	W	attends school			AL	Yes
	Gwin	Enoch	12	M	W	attends school			AL	Yes
	Gwin	Fannie	10	F	W	attends school			AL	Yes
	Gwin	Charlie	4	M	W				AL		This is Alice Foster-Blevins' Chesley Gwin (son of Chesley and Fannie).  Please take a look (in the green box below the blue time line box) at Anna Todd's email regarding this "Charlie".

A typed transcription of the following newspaper advertisement was sent to my double-4th cousin Roy Lester Smith by Ms. Linda Derry, Director or the Cahawba Project, Dallas Co., AL, sometime in the early 1990's.  I received a copy of it in January 2004 from double-4th cousin Barbara Ward.

William J. Smith and Chesley R. Gwin, while being business partners, are also related as follows: Chesley is uncle to William's wife, Mary Jane Gwin Smith, so Chesley is William's uncle by marriage. William was born ca. 1832, and Chesley was born ca. 1828, so, while Chesley is older by about four years, they are still about the same age.