Green/Anti-Globalist Reponse for
Even Having a Web Site about Diego Garcia
Following the attacks on 9/11/01.
Qui non improbat,
aprobat
(Who does not blame, approves)
Note from the editor: These people are
chameleons - they blend right in and they're hiding in
the bushes everywhere.
Don't be fooled by whatever name they're using
this week --
Greens, Reds, nuvo-commies, anti-globalists,
whatever. They're all cut from the same cloth.
Subject: Do you do anything for the original
inhabitants? Subject: Re: Do you do anything for the original inhabitants?Subject: Re: Do you do anything for the original inhabitants? Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 15:50:48 +0200 From: notbugsbunny <notbugsbunny@notbugsbunny.com> To: President for Life <tedmorris@zianet.com> References: 1 Hi again! I'm truly sorry if i offended you with my mail. But i'm a person who can admit when i'm wrong so i apologize for not looking through your site more thoroughly before writing my mail. Regards Peter Menzel P.S I have a german citizenship though i'm born and have lived in Sweden all my life. D.S Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:27:01 +1000 (EST) From: KEVIN SEEBALUCK <kevinsee@deakin.edu.au> To: tedmorris@zianet.com Dear sir I came across your website regarding Diego Garcia. Please note that this is is not a British territory. This island is part of the Republic of Mauritius. Americans are illegally occupying Diego Garcia and the islanders who were living there were forcefully removed from their homes to make way for the military base. When I look what is happening to America now, I cannot help smiling because the same injustice that these islanders suffered 30 years back is happening to America. Of course, the American never killed any Diego Garcian but it was a cultural genocide. These islanders, though given British passport, could not adapt themselves to the lifestyles in Mauritius. They are now poor, misfits and excluded from the Mauritian society. I appeal to the American people to let go of this base because it is by no means the land of the United States. The islanders want to have their island returned o them. "A man's home is his castle" Yours sincerely Kevin Seebaluck Subject: Re: diego Garcia
[editor's note: Then Kevin sent me a long
diatribe by Peter Newell (available at Che Guevara Book
Stores, everywhere), and I sent him this]: Subject: Re: diego Garcia
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 21:16:11 -0700 From: Ray Duray <rduray@bendcable.com> To: tedmorris@zianet.com Mr. Morris, I was looking over your website regarding Diego Garcia and came across your exchange with Kevin Seelbuck of Deakin University, Australia. Sir, are you deranged? What kind of a response was that that you offered him to his polite email regarding the plight of the original Diego Garcians? As an American, I am ashamed of your callous, insensitive and stupid attitude toward your correspondent, and toward the victims of our world domination schemes. I believe an apology is owed, and an attitude adjustment is in order. Just what in the hell do you think the martyrs blew up the WTC towers for? Because of attitudes like yours. Figure it out and grow up. Your fellow American, Raymond G. Duray Subject: Re: Incivility to our AlliesSubject: Re: Incivility to Everyone Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 21:39:37 -0700 From: Ray Duray <rduray@bendcable.com> To: President for Life <tedmorris@zianet.com> References: 1 , 2 Thanks Ted, We've cleared up any doubts as to your inability to think beyond the 6th Grade level. You really ought to consider growing up. [[Aside: The President for Life schtick really is tiresome and trite, if not a bit fatuous and megalomaniacal. You might want to tone that down a bit if you ever want to be taken seriously by anybody. ]] Cordially, Ray Duray
On Thursday,
October 11, 2001, Scott Simon of NPR interviewed the
author of this web site about life on DG.
Actually, what they really wanted to do was talk to
the Manager of the Brit Club. Seems the August
and September photo albums on the Brit Club's now
defunct Web Site included some pictures of the usual
RN and RM clowning around, which includes wearing
women's clothing to the Club once a month.
Anyway, NPR couldn't get anybody to answer the phone on Diego, so they decided to ask me if I'd spill the beans, and of course, being the glory hog I am, and wanting my 15 minutes of fame, I agreed. The interview was a lot of fun, Scott was considerate and sounds just like he does on the radio, and Charlie his engineer was very understanding when I explained I wouldn't talk about anything that might be remotely sensitive. In the end I hope the listeners of National Communist Radio got a better feeling for what its like to live life without family, friends or loved ones, on an island 10,000 miles from home. Well, on Friday, Oct. 12, NPR posted a sort of lead-in page for the interview on their web site, 16 hours before the interview aired... Of course, the emails immediately began to arrive. From the kooks and leftists and other whackos who's sole goal in life is to glance at a single page or two of a web site the size of this one, form an opinion, and proceed to assault the editor with their preachy bullshit. It doesn't surprise me anymore, of course. We all know that they live to tell the rest of us what we should think, what we should write, and what we should believe in. Well, here's their chance! They can get their view aired right on this web site that they vilify so frequently... So, if you're
interested, here's the beginning of these exchanges,
again from another Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 11:30:15 +1000 From: Graeme Orr <g.orr@mailbox.gu.edu.au> To: tedmorris@zianet.com Dear Webmaster Your idea of 'freedom-loving' strangely includes knee-jerk attacks on greens, reds, comos. Couldn't you save the passion for the Islamic fascists and totali-Taleban, or has 'extreme drunkenness' clouded things too much for you? But since your freedom obviously doesn't extend to freedom to think (for yourself or others) I do hope you personally stay on the island for good; and let the top guns enjoy the 'air supremacy' and do enjoy the cross-dressing. Yrs G Orr (he obviously didn't even take the time to look at the bottom of this page to see what I think of TaleNazis) Anyway, I spasmodically responded, knees jerking:
Subject: Re: Message
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 21:34:15 -0400 From: "Rich Cestaro" <cypher8077@hotmail.com> To: tedmorris@zianet.com Hi Ted, I was just reading through your site briefly because I'm actually trying to get my reserve time over at DG. I couldn't help to notice all the bullshit e-mails that was sent to you about shit that happened 30 years ago. First let me tell you that I'm 28 yrs old, in the NAVY reserve and was at work in NYC (2 buildings from the trade center!) on Sept.11. Everyone seems to be complaining about how the US removed these people from their land. Did anyone every consider that this could have saved these people? I read that one guy said these people are now "misfits" and all sorts of shit. I seen the pics of the island, and I'm no expert; but from the looks of it I can see becoming a "misfit" being there longer than any tour! Surely these schmucks could find something better to complain about, than a "has been" island. I mean really, it's not like we moved 6,000 intelligent people with families and killed them, leaving all sorts of wounds NEVER to heal! How dare ANYONE to compare what happened here in my Neighborhood to some little shit island! I'm here, I work in Manhattan (for those fucking foreigners that's what NYC's name is!) I walk through PENN station every fucking day looking at all the "Missing People" signs and make shift "murials/memorials". I as well as every other commuter stepped off the train at the station and seeing "tons" of cars that hadn't moved for days, only to mark a "so-called tombstone" of those fellow commuters who hadn't made it out alive! So a big "FUCK YOU" to those that want to "bastardise" Sept 11th! Especially if your not AMERICAN! God Bless you Ted. Thanks for letting me vent! P.S. If you could please post this under the "following WTC attacks" I'd appreciate it greatly And thank you, Rich. Good luck getting out to DG! ![]() Subject:
Brits & Yankees You forgot to mention, on your DG site, that the Brits
and the Yankees stole the island, without compensation,
from the people who live To which I rudely responded:
Subject: Re: Brits & Yankees
Subject:
Re: Brits & Yankees As I said you don't get it. [Of course, this goof didn't even bother to read his/her original message, because he/she didn't say that at all] By this point, I foolishly
continued the message exchanges, thusly: Subject: Re: Brits & Yankees
And now, the New Zealand Delegation Chimes in. Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:52:18 +1300 hmmmmm... well, Mr or Ms C&P Boner: I'm not ashamed. I'm happy killing terrorists and anybody who shelters or supports them. And until you take comparative government in high school, don't attempt to lecture me on how the US government works. I'll be sure to call Rupert and tell him to divest himself of some of his 80% holdings, although I hope he keeps FOX, because I like their news and their comedies. Did I mention that Murdoch is an Australian? Better watch out! He might come over to your little island nation and take over there too. As for who is responsible for the attacks, well, my experience for the last 3 years in this war is that there's plenty of blame to go around this part of the world. I recommend you come up here to Asia and take a look for yourself, and quit sniveling down there.
To which I did not reply, becoming bored with this whole page.
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:15 AM To: easy501@zianet.com Subject: Diego Garcia. Hi friend. Just for your information,there are 100 Mauritians borned in Diego Garcia,a Mauritian teritory,who were given the permission ,after 38 years,to visit their native place for 2 days. They have arrived this morning(04/04/06) and are allowed to go to the cemetary and paid respect to their parents and grand parents who lived and died in Diego. Points to Ponder. Gilbert BATHFIELD. MAURITIUS [...] My reply:
From: Simone Meggiato
[mailto:simone.meggiato@meggiato.org] Hi, On you "Diego Garcia" page you wrote: "but someday, the Americans and Brits will leave, and a swarm of 3rd worlders will come in, cut down the jungle to build their shanties, catch and eat all the fish and sea turtles, drain the freshwater lenses dry, and whine for foreign aid." Perhaps you forget that british first and the americans after kicked those people away from their own ile, their OWN paradise... just to make a dirty, closed, military base. And that many of the descendants of the original inhabitants of Diego Garcia are not those stupid and savage "3rd worlders" as you paint them. Simone Meggiato My reply:
Hi Ted, Ø Perhaps you should read the whole web site, and consider the environmental issues as well, before making your points. I don’t think this is a point. Even americans are the first to pollute in any way their own country (and the world), the first not to accept limits to CO2 emissions (the first, I would add, to pay for the climate changes). But no one think that they have not the right to live were are their roots. Surely would be a nice thing if those “3rd worlders”, as you call them, would be helped to keep their isle the paradise that has been till now. But nobody has the right to keep them from returning back. And nobody has the right to keep them from returning back just because wants to keep that island a nice place for U.S.A. military’s vacations! Ø But not by being sent back to isolation on deserted islands, But this is what they WANT [at aleast some of them]. And this should be respected. The choice is not yours. Ø just so Mauritius can exploit their presence and rape the fishery, and leave them in poverty once again Diego Garcia is (and will be) still an english protectorate, don’t forget it. A jury in England stated that the original inhabitants of Diego Garcia and their descendants have the right to be considered english citizens. And… "3rd worlders" is clearly a disparaging term. Perhaps you didn’t write “stupid and savage” but I was not so far from what you really meant: "but someday, the Americans and Brits will leave, and a swarm of 3rd worlders will come in, cut down the jungle to build their shanties, catch and eat all the fish and sea turtles, drain the freshwater lenses dry, and whine for foreign aid." Ø Regards from the real world Think what you want of your sick
world but don’t ask others to trust it. AND MORE FROM SIMONE: Return-Receipt-To: "Simone
Meggiato" <simone.meggiato@meggiato.org>
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My reply:
From: "Philip Culibrk"
<philipculibrk_4@hotmail.com> Hi! I discovered your homepage for one week ago. It´s great, but I have som questions for you. I can see that Diego Garcia is a military base. But I have also read the history about Diego Garcia. It says that Diego Garcia had a native population until 1971, known as the Ilios. The islanders was The islanders were transferred off Diego Garcia to Seychelles and then Mauritius amid allegations of starvation and intimidation tactics by the U.S. and UK governments, including the alleged killing of island dogs by American soldiers! How could the U.S do this??! This is some text from John Pilger: Diego Garcia was first settled in the late 18th century. At least 2,000 people lived there: a gentle Creole nation with thriving villages, a school, a hospital, a church, a prison, a railway, docks, a copra plantation. Watching a film shot by missionaries in the 1960s, I can understand why every Chagos islander I have met calls it paradise; there is a grainy sequence where the islanders' beloved dogs are swimming in the sheltered, palm-fringed lagoon, catching fish. All this began to end when an American rear admiral stepped ashore in 1961 and Diego Garcia was marked as the site of what is today one of the biggest American bases in the world. There are now more than 2,000 troops, anchorage for 30 warships, a nuclear dump, a satellite spy station, shopping malls, bars and a golf course. "Camp Justice," the Americans call it. Shame on you all! "A world without USA, is a world with justice!" I suppose I could have forgiven Philip for his beating a dead horse (the Pilger stuff, linked elsewhere on this site), but his last little statement (in quotes with no reference, so I assume it's his own) pissed me off. So I wrote back: Well, he answered back, and now I feel bad about being so direct in my comments... From: "Philip Culibrk"
<philipculibrk_4@hotmail.com> Hello again! I guess I misunderstood the
whole question about your homepage and you relation to
Diego Garcia. // Philip ![]() Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:28 PM To: easy501@zianet.com Subject: Diego Garcia You really are a nation of shameless bastards. First you force the natives off their island to starve and die in Mauritius, then you use the land to launch B-52s to Iraq to bomb innocent civilians. And all for what? The oil that you need to live your glutinous, wasteful lives. But just to add insult to injury, you then have the cheek to design this website so that you might gloat about the pleasures you enjoy in your stolen paradise. Have you ever stopped to wonder that maybe this is why 9/11 happened? it's not because "these people hate freedom",it's because they hate being dictated to by the most aggressive, dangerous, arrogant, brutal, and wasteful nations on earth. Sleep well... (to which he added quotes from Diego Garcia: Paradise Cleansed by John Pilger, which can be found elsewhere on this web site, and an unattribued article entitled 'Huge rise' in Iraqi death tolls, the substance of which you can find elsewhere on the web, which I have not included here) MY REPLY:HIS REPLY: From: james brown
[mailto:lakeofshadows8@hotmail.com] Osama and his ilk were FUNDED by the USA when it suited them, and to say that civilians were never intentionally harmed is naive in the extreme. It is American foreign policy that provokes attack against America, nothing else. Sorry, I have to go now, but I hope we can continue this exchange. As for my language, you are right, it was unacceptable and I apologise. In truth, it is not your people, but your government that I have issue with. Thank you for taking the time and having the courage to reply. Perhaps we will learn more of each others' mind set and comre to a better understanding of each others views. I look forward to your reply. JB. MY REPLY:
Chris Vogt [cvogt@ejmjets.com]YEARS ON DIEGO=never but i'm from mauritius NAME = tazia MY QUEST = VT of a SWALLOW = E-MAIL = tl33@kent.ac.uk NATIONALITY = mauritian SERVICE = UNIT = RANK/RATE/JOB = MY INTEREST IN DG IS = Other SUBJECT OF MY STORY: = Actually, I Have a Real Story To Tell MY WARSTORY = do all of you people who are looking for your family members, know how DG became a military base? are you even aware of the forceful removal of the population and the arbitrary dispossession of the island by the us and uk governments? it is a SHAME that some people don't care and all they're interested in are their own petty personal interests. dimoune couma zot bizin briler. MY REPLY:
Come on, you
commie bastards!
"He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire."
I'm a Bad American - this pretty much sums it up for me. I like big trucks, big boats, big houses, and naturally, pretty women. I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some midlevel governmental functionary with a bad comb-over who wants to give it away to crack addicts squirting out babies. I don't care about appearing compassionate. I think playing with toy guns doesn't make you a killer. I believe ignoring your kids and giving them Prozac might. I think I'm doing better than the homeless. I don't think being a minority makes you noble or victimized. I have the right not to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird or make me mad. This is my life to live, and not necessarily up to others' expectations. I know what SEX is and there are not varying degrees of it. I don't celebrate Kwanzaa. But if you want to that's fine; I just don't feel like everyone else should have to. I believe that if you are selling me a Dairy Queen shake, a pack of cigarettes, or hotel room you do it in English. As of matter of fact, if you are an American citizen you should speak English. My uncles and forefathers shouldn't have had to die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come disrespect ours, and make us bend to your will. Get over it. I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry butt if you're running from them after they tell you to stop. If you can't understand the word 'freeze' or 'stop' in English, see the previous line. I don't use the excuse "it's for the children" as a shield for unpopular opinions or actions. I know how to count votes and I feel much safer letting a machine with no political affiliation do a recount when needed. I know what the definition of lying is, and it isn't based on the word "is"-ever. I don't think just because you were not born in this country, you qualify for any special loan programs, gov't sponsored bank loans, etc., so you can open a hotel, 7-Eleven, trinket shop, or any thing else, while the indigenous peoples can't get past a high school education because they can't afford it. I didn't take the initiative in inventing the Internet. I thought the Taco Bell dog was funny. I want them to bring back safe and sane fireworks. I believe no one ever died because of something Ozzy Osbourne, Ice-T or Marilyn Manson sang, but that doesn't mean I want to listen to that crap from someone else's car when I'm stopped at a red light. But I respect your right to. I think that being a student doesn't give you any more enlightenment than working at Blockbuster or Jack In The Box. I don't want to eat or drink anything with the words light, lite or fat-free on the package. Our soldiers did not go to some foreign country and risk their lives in vain and defend our Constitution so that decades later you can tell me it's a living document ever changing and is open to interpretation. The guys who wrote it were light years ahead of anyone today, and they meant what they said - now leave the document alone, or there's going to be trouble. I don't hate the rich. I help the poor. I know wrestling is fake. I've never owned, or was a slave, and a large percentage of our forefathers weren't wealthy enough to own one either. Please stop blaming me because some prior white people were idiots - and remember, tons of white, Indian, Chinese, and other races have been enslaved too - it was wrong for every one of them. I believe a self-righteous liberal Democrat with a cause is more dangerous than a Hell's Angel with an attitude. I want to know exactly which church is it where the "Reverend" Jessie Jackson preaches; and, what exactly is his job function. I own a gun, you can own a gun, and any red blooded American should be allowed to own a gun, but if you use it in a crime, then you will serve the time. I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it makes you mad, then invent the next operating system that's better and put your name on the building. Ask your buddy that invented the Internet to help you. I don't believe in hate crime legislation. Even suggesting it makes me mad. You're telling me that someone who is a minority,gay, disabled, another nationality, or otherwise different from the mainstream of this country has more value as a human being that I do as a white male. If someone kills anyone, I'd say that it's a hate crime. We don't need more laws! Let's enforce the ones we already have. I think turkey bacon, turkey beef, turkey fake anything sucks. I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child-it takes a parent with the guts to stand up to the kid and spank his butt and say "NO!" when it's necessary to do so. I'll admit that the only movie that ever made me cry was Ole Yeller. I didn't realize Dr. Seuss was a genius until I had a kid. I will not be frowned upon or be looked down upon or be made to keep silent because I have these beliefs and opinions. I thought this country allowed me that right. I will not conform or compromise just to keep from hurting somebody's feelings. I'm neither angry nor disenfranchised, no matter how desperately the mainstream media would like the world to believe otherwise. Yes, I guess by some people's definition, I may be a bad American. But that's tough. Ted Nugent |
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