1.  
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Isom Gwin and Mary B. Wilson

and their two daughters

Mary Jane Gwin who married William J. Smith

and

Martha Rosanna "Mattie" Gwin who married Madison "Matt" Holley and Bryant Brown Lester
.


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Sources: From my (John Gwin's) Uncle James' collection (James Bassett Gwin II), p.30B.

Notes in [[double brackets]] are from Mrs. Barbara A. Smith (nee Underhill)'s USPS mailings of 25 Jul 2000, below, where she quotes her late husband and my fourth cousin Roy Lester Smith.

Most of the rest is from fourth cousin Barbara Ward who owns the marvelous old photo album with some 75 family photos in it.

Now I have info on Robert Isom Smith (and his descendants) from Bud Norris and Merry Ann Brown (forwarded to me by Barbara Ward) as well as from the 1880 census.

The person at this address, drjudy@westal.net, did a walk-through of the Mars Hill Cemetery near Marion, Perry Co., AL, and recorded the findings at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/9365/marshill.html.  I have gratefully copied much of the information below from this source.

But the find of the decade has been Isom's grave, located July 2004, at Martins' Station, AL.



 
Isom's line:
Mary's line:
21.00--Richard Gwin;  allegedly lived near Jamestown, Virginia, said to be of Scotch Irish descent; m. Sarah Chesley; one known son: Isham/Isom.
21.00--unknown

22.00--Isham Gwin m. Mary Canterbury
[In July 2003 I traveled to east Tennessee to find out where Isham lived--and I did!  For the details of that trip and those discoveries, please click on Isham's link.]

22.00--unknown
23.04--John Gwin (middle name unk.; no photo available)--b. 7 Nov 1792 (from his gravestone--see photo) in TN (then NC--per his report to the 1850, 1860, and 1870 AL Census takers of Dallas Co.--possibly in Crowson's Cove on Walden's Creek in Sevier Co.,); d. 7 Mar 1877 at Wilsonville, AL;  m. 8 Apr 1812 (age 19.5) in Blount Co., TN, by Joseph Walker (Jane's brother, and Justice of the Peace) to Jane "Jennie" Walker (right), (b. ca. 1794; d. at Cahaba after 16 Feb 1864* and before 1870 census; bd. at New Cem., Cahaba, Dallas Co., AL, beside her dau. Louisa A. Gwin McKnight (see note "I" below); d.o. Thomas Walker, Sr., and Elizabeth Magill, both of Virginia); nine children; in 1860 Dallas Co., AL, Census, John, 68, and Jane, 66, were living in the home of W. G. Grice, 32, a carpenter b. in SC, and his wife, Eliza Grice, 20, b. in AL, along with J. W. Roark, 15, and Elizabeth Comelander, 15 (two of John's and Jane's grandchildren, Walter being Daughter Mary's son and Elizabeth being Daughter Martha's daughter).
*[Dallas Co., AL, Book _, p. 740, records a deed from John and Jane Gwin where they sell on 16 Feb 1864 to Conrad Hilderbrandt the east half of Lot #7 in the town of Cahaba, thus proving that Jane Gwin was alive on that day.]








23.00--Nathaniel Burdine Wilson, b. 11 Jul 1795 (according to Uncle James' notes) in SC (according to I.G. Wilson in 1880 Census and N. B. himself, first in the 16 Nov 1850 census of Pence's Beat, Dallas Co., where NBW, 58, was living with wife Jane, 56, also of SC, and four Alabama-born sons--W.B., 22; James W., 17; NM, 13; and I.G., 9--and claimed property valued at $2040; and second in the 6 Jul 1860 census of Belvue P.O., Pence Beat, Dallas Co., AL, where N.B. claimed real property valued at $6400 and personal assets of $5000 and was living in residence 311 with Griffin Wilson, age 18, b. in AL, and N.W. Wilson, age 10 (sic?), b. in AL, which residence was next door to residence 310 where E.M. Wilson age 34, was living with his family [see 2.5 below]);  d. 31 May 1874 at home of son Dr. Isham Griffin Wilson after a five-year illness, leaving "no widow," according to a petition filed 19 Mar 1875 (file #65, Dallas Co. Court House);  NBW's will probated Nov. 1875;  m1. 4 Jan 1816 (according to Uncle James' notes) to Jane Jones; 11 children;  m2. on unk. date to Mary J. (Wilson; nee unk.), widow of the late John A. Rasco, according to a deed recorded 5 Jan 1866;

24.01--Isom Gwin, b. 17 Mar 1817 in AL territory (age 33 in 16 Nov, 1850 census of Pences or Athens Bt., Dallas Co., AL); d. 7 Dec 1853 (from his obituary) or 17 Dec 1853 (from his gravestone) at age 36; served Dallas Co. for several years as Justice of the Peace; bd. in the cemetery at St. Luke's Episcopal Church at Martin's Station, Dallas Co., AL;

m. 1837 to Mary Burdine Wilson (9 Nov 1816 - 12 Jan 1877); two children;

24.01--Mary Burdine Wilson, b. 29 Nov 1816 (but her gravestone is reported to give her age at death as "60 years, 2 months, 3 days," which would make her DOB 9 Nov 1816); d. 12 Jan 1877 according to her gravestone; bd. Mars Hill Cem., near Marion, Perry Co., AL;

m1. Isom Gwin (17 Mar 1817 - 17 Dec 1853); two children;

m2. 1859 (taken from Appeal from Probate Court, Dallas Co., Bk. 30, part one, page 187) to Rev. John Steadman; (d. 1862, taken from same Appeal);
In July 2004 in the cemetery at St. Luke's Church, Martin's Station, Dallas Co., AL, I found and uncovered his fallen and buried tombstone, which reads:
Sacred to the memory of ISOM GWIN, born March 17th 1817, and died December 17th 1853, in hopes of a glorious immortality.  The deceased was a native of this state and was raised from an infant in this county.  In 1837 he married Miss Mary B. Wilson; he became religious in 1840, and united with the Protestant Methodist Church of which he lived a member till his death.  In his death his bereaved wife mourns the death of a kind and affectionate husband, his two children the loss of a tender and loving father, his parents a dutiful and beloved son, his brothers and sisters a loving and beloved brother.
Blessed are the dead that die in the Lord: Rev.
ALLEN
After Isom died in 1853, Mary waited about six years, then married her also-recently-widowed pastor, John Steadman, and moved to Cahawba, where he died in 1862. As late as 1870 she and her father, N. B. Wilson, were living with her daughter  Mary Jane Smith and MJ's husband, William Smith.  But when Mary Jane got sick and died the next year, her brother, Dr. Isham G. Wilson, took over the care of their father, and Mary moved to Marion in Perry Co., to live near or with her other daughter, Martha, where Mary died and is buried. I'm not sure where Rev. Steadman is buried, but it's probably in a now-unmarked grave at Cahawba's New Cemetery.

In July 2006, I got to visit the Mars Hill Cemetery and photograph her stone, which reads:

Mary B. Steadman
Died
Jan. 12, 1877
Age
60 Yrs., 2 Mos., 3 D.



    Obituary from the Dallas Gazette, Dec. 23, 1853:
-- DIED --
At his residence, sixteen miles from Cahaba, on Wednesday, the 7th inst., ISOM GWIN, Esq., in the 37th year of his age.
    The deceased was one of the most valuable  and  esteemed  citizens of this county; and by his upright conduct   endeared  himself   to  all  his acquaintances. He was, at the time of his death,  and for thirteen years prior to this sad event, a member of the Protestant Methodist Church.
    Before his death, he gave the brightest assurances of his future reward in heaven.  His last words, when friends and relatives were gathered round his dying pillow, were "Hallelujah! Heaven's already in view!" 
    He leaves a wife and two children to mourn the loss  of a kind husband and affectionate father.
No obituary for Mary B. has been found yet.

MBWG m2. John Steadman (1801-1862), Methodist minister


And now meet Isom's and Mary's two daughters, Mary and Martha, and their families:

25.01--Mary Jane Gwin, b. 31 Oct 1838; d. 17 Jul 1871; bd. in the cemetery of the old Cahaba St. Luke's Episcopal church, Martin's Station, Dallas Co., AL (see photos); m. 22 Dec 1853 (Roy Smith says 23 Dec 1853) at age fifteen (and fifteen days after the death of her daddy!) to William J. Smith of Dallas Co.,AL (b. ca. 1832 in TN, s/o Robert Smith [b. ca 1808 TN]); one child who survived her; (all above data from tombstone);
Roy Smith reports that the 1850 Census of Perry Co., (Marion P.O.) Alabama includes the following:
First Name
Last Name
Age
Sex
Occupation
POB
Comments by John Gwin
Robert Smith 42 M Mechanic TN This is Mary Jane Gwin's future father-in-law.  But where--and who--was her mother-in-law, Robert's wife?
William J. Smith 18 M Mechanic TN This is Mary Jane Gwin's future husband.
John R. Smith 15 M . TN This is Mary Jane Gwin's future brother-in-law.
Thomas J. Smith 12 M . TN This is Mary Jane Gwin's future brother-in-law.

From the 5 Jul 1860 Census of Athens Beat, Liberty Hill, Dallas Co., AL:
Fam/
Res
First
Name
Last Name
Age
Sex
Occupation
Real
Property
Personal
Property
POB
Comments by John Gwin
267/262 W. J. Smith 27 M Blacksmith 2000 10,453 TN This is Mary Jane Gwin's husband, William J. Smith, who was in business with and living next door to his wife's uncle, Chesley R. Gwin, at the time, as the above advertisement and the next census entry show. 

M. J. Smith 24 F . . . AL This is Mary Jane Gwin. She would die eleven years later, in July 1871, leaving only two survivors: her husband and her son. (see comments below on her daughters for a theory as to how she--and they--died.

Robert I. Smith 4 M . . . AL Robert Isom Smith, clearly named for his two grandfathers: Isom Gwin and Robert Smith.
  J.H. Cobb 32 M Clerk . . NY .

A.H.  Cobb 23 F . . . AL .

J.B. Bowden 19 M . . . AL .
266/261 C. R. Gwin 33 M WagonMaker 800 6425 AL This is Chesley R. Gwin, youngest son of John and Jane and Isom's baby brother. He is the business partner of Wm. Smith, his niece's husband, as the above ad shows.

M. F. Gwin 29 F


AL This is Mary Frances "Fannie" Elizabeth Bell Gwin. She and Chesley had just celebrated their tenth anniversary.

W. J. Gwin 8 M


AL

J. I. Gwin 6 M


AL This is John I. Gwin, who was born just after the death of Chesley's brother Isom and whose middle name is therefore likely given for him. He is buried at the Bell Cemetery.

Enoch Gwin 2 M


AL

From the 1870 Census of Liberty Hill P.O., Dallas Co., AL:
Last Name
First Name
Age
Sex
Occupation
Real
Property
Personal
Property
POB
Comments by John Gwin
Smith W. J. 38 M Blacksmith . . TN This is Mary Jane Gwin's husband, William J. Smith, who was in business with his wife's uncle, Chesley R. Gwin, at least 11 years earlier, as the above advertisement shows. 
Smith M. J. 30 F . . . AL This is Mary Jane Gwin. She would die a year later, in July 1871, leaving only two survivors: her husband and her son. (see comments below on her daughters for a theory as to how she--and they--died.
Smith R. I. 14 M . . . AL Robert Isom Smith, named for his two grandfathers: Isom Gwin and Robert Smith.
Wilson  N. B. 77 M . . . SC This is Nathaniel Burdine Wilson, Mary Jane's maternal grandfather. We know that he died in 1875, and that he lived in the home of his youngest son, Dr. Isham Griffin Wilson, M.D., for the last five years of his life.  I believe, then, that he must have been ill at the time of this census and that his daughter, Mary B. Steadman, must have moved in with the Smiths to help care for him.  This failing, they moved him in with his son, Dr. Wilson, who could administer better care.  Perhaps the move was made in order to protect the old gentleman when the girls, Mary and Ida, below, became ill.
Steadman  M. B. 50 F . . . AL This is Mary Burdine Wilson Gwin Steadman, seventeen-year widow of Isom Gwin, eight-year widow of Rev. John Steadman, and mother of Mary Jane Gwin Smith.
Smith M. J., Jr. 10 F . . . AL Roy had no idea who this was.  But if she is the daughter of Mary Jane and William, then Mary Jane would've likely been pregnant with her in the 1860 census.  The "Jr." after her name leads us to believe that she could indeed be the daughter, named for her mother.

Mary Jane "Sr." would die a year later, the following July, and her gravestone clearly states that "In her death her bereaved husband and son mourn the loss of a kind and  affectionate wife and mother." 

No mention is made of the two daughters, so if these two are indeed their children, then I must assume that the girls died during this same year.  We do know that Cahaba, yes, and all of middle Alabama, suffered recurring epidemics of various deadly diseases.  It could easily be that the girls died first of the same disease that killed their mother.

It could also be, however, that these are William's visiting nieces--daughters of one of his brothers. If they were William's daughters, would they not be listed in the census in the traditional manner of being listed with the other members of the immediate family, i.e., with Robert Isom, and not after N.B. and Mary B.? And could the "Jr." not be merely a local tag--distinguishing her from her aunt--rather than a blood-relationship indicator?

Smith Ida 6 F . . . AR Roy had no idea who this was either.  But her name (and, we assume, her photo) appeared in the old photo album Barbara Ward inherited, and if the above analysis is correct, then the picture of Ida in the album would've been no older than age 6-7.

The Arkansas birthplace is further indication that the girls may not be William's and Mary Jane's daughters.




A typed transcription of the following newspaper advertisement was sent to my double-4th cousin Roy Lester Smith sometime in the early 1990's by Ms. Linda Derry, Director of the Cahawba Project, Dallas Co., AL.  I received a copy of that transcription in January 2004 from double-4th cousin Barbara Ward.

From the January 28, 1859 edition of the Dallas Gazette:

WAGONS AND PLOWS
At LIBERTY HILL, Dallas County, Ala.
by SMITH & GWIN

The undersigned respectfully announce to their friends and the public generally, that they will carry on the WAGON MAKING and BLACKSMITH business at their old stand, and they promise to give satisfaction to their customers.

They have a lot of Wagons, made by themselves, on hand, for sale.  Also, a lot of Cary Plows.

They will repair Wagons and Plows, and do all other Wagon and Blacksmith work that may be required.
 

WILLIAM J. SMITH
CHESLEY GWIN



[Barbara Ward Note: Hi John,  My cousin Annie Ford Wheeler in Birmingham sent me some pictures today; what she thought were old Lester photos. Well, one (above) was a family portrait of William J. Smith, Mary Jane, and son Robert Isom!! It is in an oval frame and looks like it might have been taken right before she died (in 1871). Son Robert looks about 15 years old. I compared the pictures on page 24A & B. William is wearing the same suit and Mary Jane has on what looks like the same pair of earrings! I am going to send the original to Barbara Smith in Texas. I don't know if Roy's family had a photo of his grandfather as a young boy.]


26.01--Robert Isom Smith, b. 8 Aug 1855 in Dallas Co., AL [listed as R. F. , b. Aug 1855, age 44 in the 1-2 Jun 1900 census of Justice Precinct #3 west of W.K.&T.RR, E.D. 84, McLennan Co., TX]; d. 17 Nov 1914 [Roy Smith's paper says 7 Nov 1914] at the town of West in McLennan Co., TX; bd. unk., but probably right there in West; m1. 23 Dec 1876 at Hillsboro, Hill Co., TX, to Mary Etta (or Marietta) Armstrong (b. 9 Sep 1857 [Roy Smith says 12 Sep 1856; d. age 45 on 10 Apr 1902 at West] in Hill Co., [north of Waco] TX [listed as Mor, b. Sep 1857, age 42 in the 1-2 Jun 1900 census of Justice Precinct #3 west of W.K.&T.RR, E.D. 84, McLennan Co., TX, where she reports 23 yrs of marriage, that she has borne 7 ch., 6 of whom are still living, and that her father was b. in Wisconsin and her mother in Missouri]; d. unk.); [all of the following information on Robert I. Smith's descendants in this green is either from Barbara U. Smith--Roy Smith's widow--or MerryAnn Brown.]; [Robert Isom Smith is my--John M. Gwin's--double-second cousin twice removed.  All of his descendants in generation eight below are my double-fourth cousins.]


[On 23 Dec 1876 when Mary Etta was 20, she married Robert Isom SMITH, in Hill County, Texas. Born on 8 Aug 1855 in Dallas County, Alabama. Robert Isom died in McLennan County, Texas on 7 Nov 1914, he was 59.

They had the following children:
              i.       Walter Clarence (1878-)
              ii.       Maude Etta (1881-)
              iii.       Milton Claude (1884-1944)
              iv.       Lola Blanche (1888-)
              v.       Frank Dediat (1891-)
              vi.       Luther Dewitt (1893-)
              vii.       Mable Angeline (1896-)
]
precint #3e d 84
The
6 Jun 1880 Census of Enumeration Dist. 108, McLennan Co., Texas, includes the following:
Last Name
First Name
Age
Sex
Relat
to HoH

Marital
Status
Race
Occupation
Real
Property
Personal
Property
POB
Father's
POB
Mother's
POB
Comments by John Gwin
Smith R. I. 24 M head
M W Farmer . . AL TN AL Robert Isom Smith, named for his two grandfathers: Isom Gwin and Robert Smith.
Smith  M. E. 22 F wife
M W Keeping
House
. . TX MO MO This is Marietta/Mary Etta Armstrong Smith, Robert's bride of three years and a few months, according to my records.
Smith W. C. 11 mo. M son
S W . . . TX AL TX This is Walter Clarence Smith, b. 12 Jun 1879; d. 9 Feb 1959, according to my records.
Armstrong
Fany?
17
F
sister-
in-law
S
W
.
.
.
TX
MO
MO
This is evidently a younger sister to Mary Etta

Ancestry.com lists the 6 Jun 1900 Census as Justice District 3, McLennan Co., Texas, and includes the following:
Res/Fam
Name
Relat
to HoH
Race
Sex
DOB
Age
Marr.
Stat.
Yrs.
Mrrd.

Ch.
Born
Ch.
Lvg.
POB
FPOB
MPOB
Occ.
John M. Gwin Comments
15/15
R. F. Smith
head
w
m
Aug 1855
44
m
23


AL
TN
AL
farmer
Ancestry's reader mistranscribed this--the photocopy of the original page shows that he is indeed R. I. Smith, our Robert Isom himself.

Mor Smith wife
w
f
Sep 1857
42
m
23
7
6
TX
WI
MO

Ancestry's reader mistranscribed this--the photocopy of the original page shows that she is indeed Mary Smith. She reports that one of the seven children she carried died. We show this child to be daughter Maude Etta Smith, b. 1881.

Clarence Smith son
w
m
Jun 1879
20
s



TX AL
TX  


Claude Smith son
w
m
Jul 1884
15
s



TX AL TX


Blanch Smith dau
w
f
Apr 1889
13
s



TX AL TX


Frank Smith son
w
m
Sep 1890
9
s



TX AL TX


Dewitt Smith son
w
m
Jan 1894
6
s



TX AL TX


Mabel Smith dau
w
f
Jan 1896
4
s



TX AL TX


27.01--Walter Clarence Smith, b. 12 Jun 1879
[listed as Clarence, b. Jun1879, age 20 in the 1-2 Jun 1900 census of Justice Precinct #3 west of W.K.&T.RR, E.D. 84, McLennan Co., TX]; d. 9 Feb 1959;

27.02--Maude Etta Smith, b. 1881 [not listed in the 1-2 Jun 1900 census of Justice Precinct #3 west of W.K.&T.RR, E.D. 84, McLennan Co., TX--deceased]

27.03-- Milton Claude Smith, b.18 Jul 1884 in West, Hill Co., TX [listed as Claude, b. Jul 1884, age 15 in the 1-2 Jun 1900 census of Justice Precinct #3 west of W.K.&T.RR, E.D. 84, McLennan Co., TX]; [age 45 in 24 Apr 1930 census of Roswell, Chaves Co., NM, where he's listed as being a clerk in a railroad depot]; d. 29 Mar 1944 in Roswell, Chaves Co., NM; m. ca. 1912 to Margret (nee unk., b. ca. 1885 in IL--[age 43 in 24 Apr 1930 census of Roswell, Chaves Co., NM])

28.01--Claude Milton Smith, b. 21 May 1921 in Roswell, Chaves Co., NM [age 9 in 24 Apr 1930 census of Roswell, Chaves Co., NM]; d. 1991;

28.02--Robert Clark Smith, b. 24 May 1922 in Roswell, Chaves Co., NM [age 7 in 24 Apr 1930 census of Roswell, Chaves Co., NM]; d. 1982;

28.03--Mary Margaret Smith, b. 1 Oct 1923 in Roswell, Chaves Co., NM [age 6 in 24 Apr 1930 census of Roswell, Chaves Co., NM];

28.04--Elizabeth Irene Smith, b. 2 May 1925 in Roswell, Chaves Co., NM [age 4 in 24 Apr 1930 census of Roswell, Chaves Co., NM]; m. Robert Countey (b. unk.; dec.); 11. ch.

29.01--Countey, PRIVATE
29.02--Countey, PRIVATE
29.03--Countey, PRIVATE
29.04--Countey, PRIVATE
29.05--Countey, PRIVATE
29.06--Countey, PRIVATE
29.07--Countey, PRIVATE
29.08--Countey, PRIVATE
29.09--Countey, PRIVATE
29.10--Countey, PRIVATE
29.11--Countey, PRIVATE
28.05--John Edward Smith, b. 24 May 1928 in Roswell, Chaves Co., NM [age 1 in 24 Apr 1930 census of Roswell, Chaves Co., NM]; d. 1997 in Roswell; m. "Bobbie" (nee unk.); 3 + 1 ch.
29.01--Michael Smith, PRIVATE
29.02--Mary Beth Smith, PRIVATE
29.03--Patrick Smith, deceased; PRIVATE
29.04--Eric Smith, PRIVATE
27.04--Lola Blanch Smith, b. 1 Apr 1888 [listed as Blanch, b. Apr 1887, age 13 in the 1-2 Jun 1900 census of Justice Precinct #3 west of W.K.&T.RR, E.D. 84, McLennan Co., TX]; d. 26 Jul 1981

27.05--Frank Deddiat Smith, b. 25 Sep 1891 [listed as Frank, b. Sep 1890, age 9 in the 1-2 Jun 1900 census of Justice Precinct #3 west of W.K.&T.RR, E.D. 84, McLennan Co., TX]

27.06--Luther Dewitt Smith, b. 25 Jan 1893, West, McLennan Co., TX [listed as Dewitt, b. Jan 1894, age 6 in the 1-2 Jun 1900 census of Justice Precinct #3 west of W.K.&T.RR, E.D. 84, McLennan Co., TX]; d. 17 Aug 1976 in Hubbard, Hill Co., TX; bd. Bell Spgs. Cem., Abbott, Hill Co., TX; m. 17 Dec 1913 in West, McLennan Co., TX, to Mamie Ross Howell (b. 9 Sep 1893, Hill co., TX, d/o Joshua Calhoun Howell and Adeliade Smith; d. 13 Mar 1965, Waco, McLennan Co., TX; bd. Bell Spgs. Cem., Abbott, Hill Co., TX);

28.01--Eleanor Marie Smith, b. 2 Nov 1914, West, McLennan Co., TX; d. 2003; m. 22 Nov 1933 in Hill Co., TX., to Dexter Washington Christian;

28.02--Robert Calhoun Smith, b. 21 Mar 1916, West, McLennan Co., TX; d. 20 Mar 1987 in Dallas Co, TX; bd. Laurel Land Mem. Pk., Ft. Worth, TX; m. 2 Aug 1942 in Waco, McLennan Co., TX, to Doris Viginia Bramlett; occ., retired Air Force;

28.03--Addie Dee Smith, b. 21 Feb 1919, West, McLennan Co., TX; d. ; m. 15 Oct 1940 in Hill Co, TX, to Clifford Ralph Tomlinson;

28.04--Dean Howell Smith, b. 2 Jan 1922 in Hill Co., TX; d. 27 Feb 1987 in Dallas, Dallas Co., TX; bd. Liberty Hill Cem., Hubbard, Hill Co., TX; m. 9 Feb 1946 in Hill Co., TX, to Bernice Odom;

28.05--Charles Wesley Smith, b. 30 Aug 1923 in Hill Co., TX; d. 26 Nov 1984 at Waco, McLennan Co., TX; bd. Memorial Pk. Cem., Waco, McLennan Co., TX; m. 11 Jul 1947 in Hill Co., TX, to Margaret Helen Norman; occ., aircraft maintenance;

28.06--Roy Lester Smith, b. 21 Aug 1926 in Hill Co., TX; d. 22 Mar 1998; bd. Laurel Land Mem. Pk., Ft. Worth, TX; m. 29 May 1948 in Ft. Worth, Tarrant Co., TX, to Barbara Ann Underhill (b. 14 Sep 1932 in Penelope, Hill Co., TX, d/o Herbert Houston Underhill and Edna Mae Greene; occ., cashier, Williamson Dickie Mfg., ret.); occ. Fireman; [John Gwin Note:  I'm told that Roy said in 1997 he thought he was named Lester for an uncle, probably Bryant Brown Lester, pictured below, who was Roy's great-granduncle.  If all this info is correct, then Roy and I are double-fourth cousins, and his daughter Marilyn and my children are double-fifth cousins.]

29.01--Marilyn Kay "Kay" Smith, b. 5 Feb 1949 in Ft. Worth, Tarrant Co., TX; m. 1 Jul 1995 in Crowley, Tarrant Co., TX, to Billy George Spurlock; occ., contract adminstrator, U.S. government
28.07--Lila Merle Smith, b.18 Sep 1929 in Birome, Hill Co., TX; d. 2003; m. 3 Apr 1952 in McLennan Co., TX, to Wallace Martin Cox; occ., nurse, housewife;
27.07--Mabel Angeline Smith, b. 27 Jan 1896 [listed as Mabel, b. Jan 1896, age 4 in the 1-2 Jun 1900 census of Justice Precinct #3 west of W.K.&T.RR, E.D. 84, McLennan Co., TX]
RIS m2. on unk. date in Hill Co., TX, to Unknown Lady


[John Gwin Note: The following two listings of "children" of William and Mary Ann Gwin Smith are based on the 1870 census; that they are their children was my earlier speculation and is thought now (Mar 2007 and following) to be not likely so.]

26.02--Mary Jane Smith "Jr.", b. ca. late 1860 (age 10 in the 1870 census, above, but absent in the 1860 census); now believed to be the niece of William J. Smith, not his daughter.

26.03--Ida Smith, b. ca. 1866 (age 4 in the 1870 census, above); ; now believed to be the niece of William J. Smith, not his daughter.



25.02--Martha Rosanna "Mattie" Gwin, b. 5 Apr 1843 (but gravestone says 1844) in Dallas Co. [listed as Martha Holly, age 23, in the 1 Sep 1870 census of Liberty Hill P. O., Athens Beat, Dallas Co., AL]; [listed as Mattie R. Holley, a widow, age 35, in the 6 June 1880 census of Beat No. 1, Perry Co., AL, living next door to (her?) "cozun", Bryant B. Lester, age 28, and his mother and siblings]; [listed as Mattie Obrian, wife of Lester Obrian, b. Apr 1844, living next door to her son Clarence Holley, in the 8 Jun 1900 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [listed as Mattie R. Lester (hopelessly mistranscribed by Ancestry.com as "Kester", then "Rester"), age 63, in the 9 May 1910 census of Hamburg Pct., Perry Co., AL; she reports here having had ten children, 5 of whom are still living in 1910]; [listed as Alma Lester, age 74, in the 22 Jan 1920 census of Hamburg Pct. 2, Perry Co., AL]; ; d. 15 Sep 1923 (but gravestone says 14 Sep) at age 80 of heart failure in Perry Co., AL, where she had lived 14 years (according to death certificate); bd. 16 Sep 1923 by J. A. Bice at Mars Hill Cem. near Marion, Perry Co., AL (gravestone says: "Lewis Independent Cavalry, from 1860 to 1865, CSA, 1833-1873"; lived and died at Perry Ridge community, Hamburg, AL, near Marion; an uncle was a Dr. [must be Isham Griffin] Wilson of Demopolis. [John M. Gwin Note: My double-fourth cousin Barbara Ward, who descends from Martha and second husband Bryant, once thought that Martha was adopted.  Thanks to some of Barbara's excellent sleuthing, however, we're all now certain that Martha is the natural daughter of Isom and Mary. Martha is also the original owner of the old photo album now in the possession of Barbara Ward, which album contains over 70 photos of Martha's friends and family!]

m1. 7 Sep 1860 in Athens, AL, [John M. Gwin Note: This is the Town of Athens in Dallas Co. which existed for only a short period, changed its name to Liberty Hill (possibly because the other town named Athens existed in Limestone Co. and was better established), then died.] for 12+ years to Madison "Matt" Holley (b. 7 Aug 1827 [listed as Madison Holly, age 38, in the 1 Sep 1870 census of Liberty Hill P. O., Athens Beat, Dallas Co., AL]; ; d. 6 Dec. 1872, in Marion, Perry Co., AL; bd. Mars Hill Cem. near Marion, Perry Co., AL.; s/o Burrell Holley ((b. 15 Mar 1797)) and Frances Miller; Matt's bothers were Will Holley and Monroe Holley; Matt's sister was Martha Holley who m. a Mr. Steadman [John M. Gwin Note: Was this a relative of the Rev. John Steadman whom Martha's mother, Mary B. Wilson Gwin, above, married?  Indeed, was he the same man?]); Barbara Ward sent most of the following info on the ten children; there were six children by Matt Holley, (only three--Minnie, Carlos, and Clarence--survived to the 1880 census) and four by B. B. Lester; [Click here for what may be "the rest of the story" of George Clothier!]

26.01--Minnie Moore Holley, b. 3 Sep 1861 (but age 17 in the 1880 census) [listed as Minnie M. Holly, age 9, in the 1 Sep 1870 census of Liberty Hill P. O., Athens Beat, Dallas Co., AL]; [listed as Minnie M. Holley, age 17, in the 6 June 1880 census of Beat No. 1, Perry Co., AL, living with her widowed mother next door to "cozun", Bryant B. Lester, age 28, and his mother and siblings]; d. in childbirth 21 Oct. 1883; bd. unk.; m. 4 Jan 1883 for nine months to Thomas Judson Lester (b. 1859; b/o Bryant Brown Lester; [There's an interesting note here: Minnie's mother Martha Rosanna Gwin Holley Lester is therefore the sister-in-law AND mother-in-law to Thomas J. Lester, and Tom Lester's brother Bryant is also his father-in-law!  But this is the really cute one:  Minnie and Bryant are stepdaughter and stepfather, which makes Thomas Minnie's step-uncle, and since she is married to him, that makes her her own step-aunt! :-)]; unk. ch.; [POSSIBLE DESCENDANT, but only if Minnie's baby survived the childbirth in which Minnie died]
27.01--infant Lester, b. 21 Oct 1883; d. unk., but possibly in childbirth, since the mother died that day;
26.02--Walter Guin Holley, b. 27 Dec 1863; d. as infant; [DESCENDANTS NOT POSSIBLE]

26.03--George Lee Holley, b. 6 Dec 1865; d. 23 Mar 1866 as infant; [DESCENDANTS NOT POSSIBLE]

26.04--Carlos Seymour "C. S." Holley, b. 12 Aug 1868 [listed as Seamore Holly, age 4, in the 1 Sep 1870 census of Liberty Hill P. O., Athens Beat, Dallas Co., AL]; [listed as Carlos Holley, age 12, in the 6 June 1880 census of Beat No. 1, Perry Co., AL, living with his widowed mother next door to "cozun", Bryant B. Lester, age 28, and his mother and siblings]; [listed as Carlos Halley (then corrected to Holley), age 31, in the 7 Jun 1900 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL, and living as "son law" with his wife and daughter in the home of her parents, the Harrisons]; d. 10 Mar 1930 (gravestone reported to say 8 Mar); bd. Mars Hill Cem., near Marion, Perry Co., AL; m. Emma Leona Harrison (b. 22 May 1878 [listed as Emma Halley (then corrected to Holley), age 22, in the 7 Jun 1900 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL, and living in the home of her parents, the Harrisons]; d. 27 Aug 1908; bd. Mars Hill Cem., near Marion, Perry Co., AL); at least one ch.;


Carlos S. Holley

Emma Leona Harrison Holley
27.01--unk. Holley, b. ca.1898 [not listed in the 7 Jun 1900 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL, but reported by her mother who stated she'd been married three years and had 2 ch., one of whom was still living]; d. ca. 1899; bd. unk.; m. never; no ch.

27.02--Emma Holley, b. Apr 1900 in Marion, Perry Co., AL
[listed as Emma Halley (then corrected to Holley), age 3mos., in the 7 Jun 1900 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL, and living in the home of her mother's parents, the Harrisons]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.00--Ethel Holley, b. ca. 1900 as per letter below; m. a Mr. Nichols (b. unk.; d. ca. 1960 as per letter below); d. aft. 23 Nov 1982 as per letter below; bd. unk.; unk. ch.

Following is a letter, a copy of which was sent to me by Barbara Ward, written by Mrs. Ethel Holley Nichols in her hand and sent, at the request of her cousin Ina Pitts, to Ms. Gertrude Stephens of Spanish Fort, AL.  Ina had seen Gertrude's notice in the Marion (Perry County) newspaper and didn't know much about their Holley history, so she asked Ethel to put down on paper what she could remember about their grandmother's family--the Gwins.  The letter is full of interesting and historical information, and I gladly include it here (emphasis mine for ease in finding names).
36701
Nov. 23, 1982
205 Ward St.
Selma, Ala--
My dear

After reading your letter to my cousin Ina Pitts, and I am the oldest survivor of Martha Gwin thought I would add a few words of what I can remember hearing my father, Carlos Holley, tell about.

It seems my grandmother Martha (Matt) (Mattie) was raised in Athens, Ala. [John M. Gwin Note: This is the Town of Athens in Dallas Co. which existed for only a short period and then died.] by wealthy or well-to-do parents [John M. Gwin Note: These were Isom Gwin and Mary Burdine Wilson Gwin. Isom was a Justice of the Peace. He owned several slaves,but I don't know what he did for a living.], as all it seemed all she did was take music and attend schools until she married.

My grandfather married her in Athens, Ala (Madison Holley). He was in business with a partner whom he trusted with all his mind and heart, doing well so it seems, when he got the idea of coming to Marion in Perry County to go in business for himself. So his partner suggested he turn his share over to his partner's name and when he got settled in Marion he would return his half or share back to my grandfather in my grandfather's name. Of course you can guess the rest. His partner flatly refused and he was here broke and penniless from then on. He got a job as overseer from the rich slave and property owners until he died. My grandmother Martha, then learned to cook, wash dishes, and keep house and taught school some.

My grandfather kept planning to go back to Athens to kill his partner but took to bed with typhoid fever, which was fatal in those days, and while dying he was talking to his son Walter who was already dead.

My grandfather had two brothers, Will and Monroe, and one sister Martha who married a Steadman. All are buried in Perry Co.   They were Dutch-Irish. 
My father was light complected, dark brown eyes, and black hair and died at 62. His brother Clarence was medium brown eyed with red hair and reddish complexion. Their sister Minnie died at childbirth at 19 years old--her husband was Tom Lester.

Now we will say a few more things about my grandmother who then married Bryant Lester and had three more children. I have met quite a few people from Athens and close about there. They have told me there were Gwins still around there. One man told me there was almost a community of them in one place close around but they spell their names Guinns and call it Gu ends. He said I'm almost sure they are real Gwins and some of your relatives. My grandmother also had an uncle who was a well known doctor in Demopolis, Ala., by the name of Wilson. [John M. Gwin Note: This must be Dr. Isham Griffin Wilson, youngest sibling of Mary Burdine Wilson (Mrs. Isom) Gwin.] I met a retired professor last year who was a cousin of this doctor and also a Wilson. He was 92 when he died this year.

My father was four years old and my uncle Clarence was two years old when my grandfather died.

I'll send you a separate list that I copied from a little memoranda book of my grandmother's while visiting my aunt about five years ago, who is also dead.

As for me, I am a widow of 22 years, and head of five generations at the age of 82. I hope after you ever get through reading this it might be a little benefit to you.  Good luck and best wishes. Yours,

Ethel (Holley) Nichols
I have heard that Dr. Lamar Holley of Birmingham, Ala., has tried to trace the Holley family. Perhaps he could help you. He is Will Holley's grandson.

This is of my father's grandfather and mother and his father mother brothers and sister.

Burel Holley Born April 15, 1797 my. Frances Miller ?    wife great grandfather

Two brothers Will and Monroe Holley

Madison Holley My grandfather Born Aug 7, 1827 Died Dec 6, 1872

Martha Rosanna Gwin--Mom said Grandma spelled last name Guinn--Born 1843, Died Sept 14, 1923; 79 yrs 6 mos Married Sept 7 1860

Carlos Seymore Holley my father Born Aug 12, 1868 Died Mar 10, 1930

Emma Leona Harrison Born 1878 Died Sept 1908

Clarence Wilson Holley Born Mar 7 1870 my uncle Wife Addie Kynerd?

Mary Willie Holley Born Sept. 13, 1872 Died at 6 months

Minnie Moore Holley my aunt
Thomas J. Lester married Jan 4 1883 She died a year later in childbirth'' Walter and George Holley died infants 

Martha Gwin (Grandma Holley) mother Mary Wilson Steadman died 1877 at 60 years of age. Her mother by second husband.


26.05--Clarence Wilson "C. W." Holley, b. 2 Mar 1870
[listed as (no name) Holly, age 1, in the 1 Sep 1870 census of Liberty Hill P. O., Athens Beat, Dallas Co., AL]; [listed as Clarance Holley, age 10, in the 6 June 1880 census of Beat No. 1, Perry Co., AL, living with his widowed mother next door to "cozun", Bryant B. Lester, age 28, and his mother and siblings]; [age 30 in the 8 Jun 1900 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [listed as Clarence W., age 40, in the 26 Apr 1910 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [listed as C. W. , age 49, in the 10 Jan 1920 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [listed as Clarence W., age 60, in the 16 Apr 1930 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; d. 15 Mar 1941; bd. Mars Hill Cem., near Marion, Perry Co., AL; was living in Marion at the time of his stepfather Bryant Lester's death, according to the obit.; m. ca. 1896 to Mary Addie Kynard (b. 11 Jun 1878 [but listed as Addie, b. Jun 1879, age 21, in the 8 Jun 1900 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [listed as Mary A., age 31, in the 26 Apr 1910 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [listed as Mary A. , age 41, in the 10 Jan 1920 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [listed as Mary A., age 51, in the 16 Apr 1930 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; d. 17 Jan 1948; bd. Mars Hill Cem., near Marion, Perry Co., AL); at least eight ch.;

27.01--Clarence Arthur Holley, b. Dec 1897 [listed as Artur, age 2, in the 8 Jun 1900 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [listed as Clarence A., age 12, in the 26 Apr 1910 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [not listed as living at home in the 10 Jan 1920 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL, and assumed living elsewhere--possibly found listed as Arthur Holley, roomer and hotel clerk, age 22, in the 13 Jan 1920 census of Selma, Dallas Co., AL.]; [listed as Clarence A., age 32, hotel manager, in the 8 Apr 1930 census of Selma, Dallas Co., AL, and living with his "cousin", John E. Holley, age 24, hotel clerk]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. [POSSIBLE DESCENDANTS]

27.02--Martha "Mattie" Ruth Holley, b. Dec 1899 [listed as Ruth, age 1/2, in the 8 Jun 1900 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [listed as Mattie R., age 10, in the 26 Apr 1910 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [not listed as living at home in the 10 Jan 1920 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL, and assumed married and living elsewhere]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. [POSSIBLE DESCENDANTS]

27.03--Virgie/Vinie M. Holley, b. ca. 1902 [listed as Virgie M., dau., age 8, in the 26 Apr 1910 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [listed as Vinie M., age 18, in the 10 Jan 1920 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [not listed as living at home in the 16 Apr 1930 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL, and assumed married and living elsewhere]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. [POSSIBLE DESCENDANTS]

27.04--Ona S./L. Holley, b. ca. 1904 [listed as Ona S., dau., age 6, in the 26 Apr 1910 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [listed as Orus L., age 16, in the 10 Jan 1920 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL][not listed as living at home in the 16 Apr 1930 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL, and assumed married and living elsewhere]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. [POSSIBLE DESCENDANTS]

27.05--Ina G. Holley, b. ca. 1906 [listed as Ina G., dau., age 4, in the 26 Apr 1910 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [listed as Ina, age 13, in the 10 Jan 1920 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL][not listed as living at home in the 16 Apr 1930 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL, and assumed married and living elsewhere]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. [POSSIBLE DESCENDANTS]

27.06--Odey S./Ottie/Ottey Holley, b. ca. 1909 [listed as Odey S., son, age 1, in the 26 Apr 1910 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [listed as Ottie, age 12, in the 10 Jan 1920 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [listed as Ottey, age 21, in the 16 Apr 1930 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. [POSSIBLE DESCENDANTS]

27.07--Elam P. Holley, b. 6 Oct 1910 [listed as Ela, son, age 9, in the 10 Jan 1920 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [listed as Elan, age 19, in the 16 Apr 1930 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; d. 13 Dec 1990 in AL; bd. unk.; m. Kathaline Tanton (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch. [POSSIBLE DESCENDANTS]

Genforum.com; Holley's of Perry and Dallas Co., Ala.Posted by: James Tanton (ID *****3774); Date: Aug. 30, 2007; 1925 of 1977 postings

Elam P. Holley is my 1st grand uncle. His wife Kathaline Tanton was his wife. I can't seem to find him in the U.S. Census, or anywhere else for that matter. I do know he lived in Perry Co. and Dallas Co., Alabama. His last residence was in Selma, AL. He passed away in 1990. If anyone could help me find more information, I would appreciate it.
Thanks in advance, James Tanton, Selma, AL
Re: Holley's of Perry and Dallas Co., Alabama; Posted by: Robert Holley (ID *****1758); Date: Oct. 18, 2007; posting #1929 of 1977

SS Record: Elam P. Holley b. 6-Oct 1910 d. AL 13 Dec 1990 Grandfather: unk.
Grandmother: Mattie R. unk. (AL 1845)
Father: Clarence W. Holley (AL-Mar 1870)
Mother: Mary Addie unk. (AL-Jun 1879)
1880 Perry AL, Marion Pct., p. 161A, #163
Clarence’s mother, Mattie, is widow age 35
1900 Perry AL, Marion Pct., p. 4B, #81-81: spelled Halley 1910 Perry AL, Marion Pct. p. 52A, #202 1920 Perry AL , Marion Pct., p. 19A/B, #103-111:
Clarence as C.W.; Elam as Elan age 9
1930 Perry AL, Marion Pct. p. #135-141: Elam as Elan age 19 Robert Holley
Miami, FL

27.08--Eunice Holley, b. ca. Jun 1925 [listed as Eunice, age 4 and 10/12, in the 16 Apr 1930 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; d. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. [POSSIBLE DESCENDANTS]

26.06--Mary Willie Holley, b.13 Sep 1872; d. Mar 1873 as infant; [DESCENDANTS NOT POSSIBLE]

MRGH m2. 6 Jan l881 (her age was 38, his 30) at the home of the bride in Perryridge, Perry Co., by Rev. A. J . Kynard, to Bryant Brown Lester, (b. 8 Mar 1851 at Perryridge, Perry Co., AL [listed as Lester Obrian, age 49, b. Mar 1851, in the 8 Jun 1900 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [listed as Bryant B. Lester (hopelessly mistranscribed by Ancestry.com as "Brgant B. Kester", then "Bryant B. Rester"), age 59, in the 9 May 1910 census of Hamburg Pct., Perry Co., AL]; [listed as Bryant B. Lester, age 71, in the 22 Jan 1920 census of Hamburg Pct. 2, Perry Co., AL]; s/o Thomas P. Lester and Sarah Ann Brown and brother of Mrs. Maggie Lester Henley who was living in Marion at the time of BBL's death, according to his obit. in the Selma Times Standard of Weds., 19 Jan 1941; d. 28 Jan 1941, age 89, at Hamburg, Perry Co., AL; bd. Mars Hill Cem., near Marion, Perry Co., AL; spent his entire life in Perry Co. as a farmer, according to his obit.); four children by Bryant Lester, 10 total;
Left: From Martha "Mattie" Rosanna Gwin Holley Lester's old photo album (now owned by cousin Barbara Ward) comes this photo we believe to be Martha herself. Second from left is an enlargement of her face.  Third from left are Bryant Brown Lester and wife--this same Martha (taken about 1920)Right: Martha's gravestone in Mars Hill Cemetery outside Marion, Perry Co., AL; Gravestone of Mattie Gwin reads: "Martha R. Guinn; wife of Bryant B. Lester; April 5, 1844; Sept. 14, 1923" --photos owned and sent in by Barbara Ward.

 26.07--Smith Wyatt Lester, twin, b. 1 Dec 1881 in Marion, Perry Co., AL [listed as Smith Obrian, age 17, b. Dec 1882, living next door to his half-brother Clarence Holley, in the 8 Jun 1900 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; [listed a second time as Smith W. Lester, age 18 (but b. Jan 1882), single, head of household, and clerk in a hardware store, in the 18 Jun 1900 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; d. 21 Apr 1949 in Weed, Siskiyou Co., CA; bd. Wimena Cem., Weed, CA; was living in Weed, CA, at the time of his father's death, according to his father's obit.; m. 25 Dec 1901 in Marion, AL, to Annie Lenora Pitts (d/o James Harrison Pitts and Lucy Kynard); seven ch.;

27.01--Mattie Smith Lester, b. 15 May 1902 (but her gravestone clearly says 1906) at Marion, Perry Co., AL; d. 12 Dec 1912, age ten years, seven months; m. never;[DESCENDANTS NOT POSSIBLE]

27.02--(infant son) Lester, b. 11 Nov 1903; d. 13 Nov 1903, age two days; bd. Mars Hill Cem., near Marion, Perry Co., AL; [DESCENDANTS NOT POSSIBLE]

27.03--Annie Beatrice Lester, b. 15 Nov 1904 at Marion, Perry So., AL; d. 19 Jun 1979 at Kingman, AZ; bd. unk.; m. ca. 1926 to Tillman W. Hendrick; no ch. [DESCENDANTS NOT POSSIBLE]



Smith Wyatt Lester and Annie Lenora Pitts Lester
 wedding photo, Marion, AL, Dec 1901

Photos courtesy Bud Lester        

27.04--Walter Wyatt Lester, b. 18 Feb 1908 at Selma, Dallas Co., AL; d. 17 Jun 1967 at Kingman, AZ; bd. 20 Jun 1967 at Mt. View Cem., Kingman, AZ; m1. Anita Laura McRae; unk. ch.  [POSSIBLE DESCENDANTS]; m2. Ethel (nee unk.); at least two ch.

28.01--Ramona Jean Lester, b. 1929; m1. Mr. Prosperi; m2. Mr. Moxley [POSSIBLE DESCENDANTS]

28.02--Walter James "Bud" Lester, b. 29 Sep 1931 [PRIVATE]                            

29.00--Brian Lester [PRIVATE]

30.00--Dylan Lester [PRIVATE]



l-r: Brian Lester, Dylan Lester, and Bud Lester
at Dylan's graduation in 2006


Re: Gwin Genealogy

Thanks for responding.

My dad has worked on the family tree for some years since his retirement, and I finally made some time to follow the trail myself. I came across your site and was amazed at the vast amount of information. Thank you so much for putting all of this together.

You are correct in that I descend from Bryant and Martha. My dad is Walter J. Lester, my grandfather Walter W. Lester, my great-grandfather Smith W. Lester, and Bryant B. Lester and Martha Gwin were my great-great grandparents. It's always nice to meet a new cousin :)

Brian

27.05--Alma Oneida Lester, b. 6 Nov 1909 at , Perry Co., AL; d. 30 May 1998 at Sacramento, CA; bd. Sacramento Memorial Lawn, Sacramento, CA; m. never; no ch. [DESCENDANTS NOT POSSIBLE]

27.06--Clara Mildred Lester, b.12 Oct 1911 at Marion, Perry Co., AL; d. as infant 3 Dec 1912 at Marion, Perry Co., AL (age ca. 13 mo.); bd. Mars Hill Cem., near Marion, Perry Co., AL; [DESCENDANTS NOT POSSIBLE]

27.07--James Leon Lester, b. 18 Jul 1915 at Columbus, Lowndes Co., MS; d. 1 Dec 1979 at Sacramento, CA; bd. Sacramento Memorial Lawn, Sacramento, CA; m1. 1941 at Vallejo, CA to Myrtle Maxine Thomas; __ ch.;

28.00--Barbara Lee Lester m. Wayne Ward
29.01--Timothy Ronald Ward, b.1961; div.
30.01--Jeff Ward, b. 4 Jun 1987
29.02--Terry Richard Ward, b. 1962; m. to Pam (nee unk.); no ch.

29.03--Gregory Allen Ward, b. 1966; m. to Theresa (nee unk.);

30.01--Phoebe Maxine Ward, b. 28 Mar 2003
JLL m2. at Reno, NV, to Dolly Campbell; unk. ch.
26.08--Alma Holley Lester, twin, b. 1 Dec 1881 in Marion, Perry Co. [listed as Alma Obrian, age 17, b. Dec 1882, living next door to her half-brother Clarence Holley, in the 8 Jun 1900 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; ; d. 23 Jan 1970 in Birmingham, Jefferson Co., AL; bd. Mars Hill Cem., near Marion, Perry Co., AL;
m1. 19 Sep 1900 at 4:00 pm at the home of the bride's parents in Marion, AL, to Walter Veston Tubb (b. 27 Sep 1879; d. 19 Jul 1906; bd. Mars Hill Cem., near Marion, Perry Co., AL;); [POSSIBLE DESCENDANTS]

m2. 31 Aug 1907 to George Washington Brewster; was married to G. W. Brewster and living in Hamburg at the time of her mother's death, according to the obit.; [POSSIBLE DESCENDANTS]

m3. 9 Nov 1928 to William T. "Willie" Crawford; lived at Hamburg, Perry Co., AL, at the time of her father's obituary; [POSSIBLE DESCENDANTS]

26.09--Bryant Brown Lester, Jr., b. 2 Oct 1883; d. 5 Oct 1883, age 3 days [DESCENDANTS NOT POSSIBLE]

26.10--Julia Mary Lester, b. 11 Aug 1885 [listed as Julia Obrian, age 14, b. Aug 1885, living next door to her half-brother Clarence Holley, in the 8 Jun 1900 census of Marion, Perry Co., AL]; ; d. 22 Apr 1978 in Birmingham, AL; bd. unk.; m. Floyd Fletcher Tubb; lived at Wylam, AL, at the time of her father's death in 1941, according to his obit.; unk. ch.; [POSSIBLE DESCENDANTS]

[Barbara Ward NOTE: Most of the above came from a book entitled Children Of Mt. Soma written by Gertrude Stephens of Spanish Fort, AL.; it explained--erroneously--in detail about Martha R. ("Perkins"), pp. 776-778.   Many descendants of the above are listed there, also. This material was sent to Gertrude Stephens by several family members: Mrs. George W. (Alma) Johnson, Birmingham, AL; Mrs. Ethel Nicholds, Selma, AL; Mrs. Ina (Holley) Pitts, Selma, AL; Elam Holley; and Mrs. E. Moncus, Selma, AL.

Who were Martha's birth parents? Certainly not Dr. Bennett Perkins and Sardinia Zenobi Amos(s) of either Troup Co. or Randolph Co., GA. Nevertheless, an erroneous and misleading story had it that Martha R. "Perkins" was "taken to raise" by Mary B. Wilson (b. 1820 SC) who later married Isom Gwin (b. 1817 Al) in Dallas Co. and raised her as a Gwin.  However, research completed in January 2004 has given more than enough evidence to declare that Martha is the natural daughter of Isom and Mary.]


Isom Gwin's Siblings, continued

24.02--Thomas Gwin, b.

24.03--Mary Gwin, b.

24.04--William Gwin, b. at Cahaba, AL, 18 Dec. 1820; d. 29 Apr 1889 at Wilsonville, AL, and bd. at Wilsonville, AL; m. 12 [13] May 1842 to Rosann [aka Rosanna, Rosie Ann, Roe, etc. ] Carlisle Jones Wilson (b. 22 Aug 1822; d. at Tampa FL 29 Mar 1907; bd. at Wilsonville, AL); eight ch.;
25.01--Mary Ann Elizabeth Gwin m. Robert Guy Lochridge
25.02--Martha Jane Gwin
25.03--William Sutton Gwin m. Ida Eliza Basset
25.04--John Wesley Gwin
25.05--Rufus King Gwin
25.06--Lucy Marcella Gwin
25.07--Isham Griffin Gwin
25.08--Thomas Wilson Gwin
24.05--Sarah Gwin  m. Louis Basset

24.06--Mary Ann "Ann" Gwin,
m. Joseph Lavalette Basset

24.07--
Martha J. Gwin m. 22 Apr 1847 Jesse Comelander

24.08--
Chesley R. Gwin m1. 20 Mar 1850  Mary Frances Elizabeth "Fannie" Bell; m2. Mrs. Paralee Blevins

24.09
--Louisa A. Gwin; m1. Mr. Gaviness; m2. 17 May 1849 Mr. William G. McKnight




Mary Burdin Wilson's Siblings, continued

24.02--John Jones Wilson m. 12 Oct 1838 to Sarah "Sallie" B. Roark; 5 ch.

24.03--William Wilson, b. 23 June 1821; d. 4 days later; buried ;

24.04--Rosann [aka Rosanna, Rosie Ann, Roe, etc. ] Carlisle Jones Wilson, b. 22 Aug 1822; d. at Tampa FL 29 Mar 1907; bd. at Wilsonville, AL; m. 12 [13] May 1842 to William Gwin (b. at Cahaba, AL, 18 Dec. 1820; d. 29 Apr 1889 at Wilsonville, AL, and bd. at Wilsonville, AL; eight ch.;
25.01--Mary Ann Elizabeth Gwin m. Robert Guy Lochridge
25.02--Martha Jane Gwin
25.03--William Sutton Gwin m. Ida Eliza Basset
25.04--John Wesley Gwin
25.05--Rufus King Gwin
25.06--Lucy Marcella Gwin
25.07--Isham Griffin Gwin
25.08--Thomas Wilson Gwin
24.05--Ezekiel Monroe Wilson, b. 23 Feb 1825; m.

24.06--William Bramwell Wilson, b. 21 Sep 1827; m.


24.07--Joseph Jones Abernathy Wilson, b. 7 Jul 1830; m.


24.08--James Washington Wilson, b. 11 Dec 1832; m.


24.09--Samuel Rutherford Wilson, b. 21 Apr 1835; m.


24.10--Nathaniel Marion Wilson, b. 3 Nov 1837; m.


24.11--Isham Griffin Wilson, m.



Here are parallel lines of John Gwin (left)
and Barbara Ward (right) through John and Jane Walker Gwin
and Nathaniel Burdine and Jane Jones Wilson.
John and Barbara are double-fourth cousins to each other.

John Gwin and Jane Walker
and
Nathaniel Burdine Wilson and Jane Jones,
parents of:

--William Gwin
m. Roseanna Carlisle Jones Wilson
<-----SIBLINGS----->
<-----SIBLINGS----->
--Isom Gwin
m. Mary Burdine Wilson
--William Sutton Gwin m. Ida Eliza Basset
<--DOUBLE-1ST COUSINS-->
--Martha Rosanna Gwin m2. Bryant Brown Lester
--James Bassett Gwin m. Adrian Belle Vardaman
<--DOUBLE-2ND COUSINS-->
--Smith Wyatt Lester m. Annie Lenora Pitts
--Adrian Sutton Gwin m. Dorothy Lee Keeney
<--DOUBLE-3RD COUSINS-->
--James Leon Lester m. Myrtle Maxine Thomas
--John McDonald Gwin m. Sharon Lynn Hamrick
<--DOUBLE-4TH COUSINS-->
--Barbara Lee Lester m. Wayne Ward
John's and Sharon's children
<--DOUBLE-5TH COUSINS-->
--Barbara's and Wayne's children
John's and Sharon's grandchildren
<--DOUBLE-6TH COUSINS-->
--Barbara's and Wayne's grandchildren

These are parallel lines of John Gwin (left)
and Irene Countey (right) through John and Jane Walker Gwin
and Nathaniel Burdine and Jane Jones Wilson.
John and Irene are also double-fourth cousins to each other.

John Gwin and Jane Walker
and
Nathaniel Burdine Wilson and Jane Jones,
parents of:

William Gwin
m. Roseanna Carlisle Jones Wilson
<-----SIBLINGS----->
<-----SIBLINGS----->
--Isom Gwin
m. Mary Burdine Wilson
--William Sutton Gwin m. Ida Eliza Basset
<--DOUBLE-1ST COUSINS-->
--Mary Jane Gwin m. William J. Smith
--James Bassett Gwin m. Adrian Belle Vardaman
<--DOUBLE-2ND COUSINS-->
--Robert Isom Smith m. A
--Adrian Sutton Gwin m. Dorothy Lee Keeney
<--DOUBLE-3RD COUSINS-->
--J Smith m. M
--John McDonald Gwin m. Sharon Lynn Hamrick
<--DOUBLE-4TH COUSINS-->
--Elizabeth Irene Smith m. W. Countey


And here are parallel lines of John Gwin (left)
and Roy Smith (right) through John and Jane Walker Gwin
and Nathaniel Burdine and Jane Jones Wilson.
John and Roy are also double-fourth cousins to each other.

John Gwin and Jane Walker
and
Nathaniel Burdine Wilson and Jane Jones,
parents of:

--William Gwin
m. Roseanna Carlisle Jones Wilson
<-----SIBLINGS----->
<-----SIBLINGS----->
--Isom Gwin
m. Mary Burdine Wilson
--William Sutton Gwin m. Ida Eliza Basset
<--DOUBLE-1ST COUSINS-->
--Mary Jane Gwin m. William J. Smith
--James Bassett Gwin m. Adrian Belle Vardaman
<--DOUBLE-2ND COUSINS-->
--Robert Isom Smith m. Mary Etta Armstrong
--Adrian Sutton Gwin m. Dorothy Lee Keeney
<--DOUBLE-3RD COUSINS-->
--Luther Dewitt Smith m. Mamie Ross Howell
--John McDonald Gwin m. Sharon Lynn Hamrick
<--DOUBLE-4TH COUSINS-->
--Roy Lester Smith m. Barbara Ann Underhill

Some Valuable Correspondence

 
Subject:     Basset/Gwin
Sent:        5/19/45 5:10 PM
Received:    7/10/00 6:19 PM
From:        liz hicks, erootrot@usa.net
To:          john, jmcdgwin@zianet.com

John,
I'm going to do my best not to overwhelm you with info.  But here goes....

Found this query in the Central AL Gen. Soc. quarterly Vol 18 no. 1, 1992 (by the way this society abstracts and publishes Dallas Co., AL info., dues $20/yr) P.O. Box 125, Selma, AL 36702-0125.  "William Gwin of Wilsonville, Shelby Co., AL married Rosanna (R. C. J.) Wilson in Dallas Co., AL 5-13-1842.  Both buried Wilsonville cem. They were in Dallas Co. in 1850, Bibb Co. in 1860, and Shelby Co. in 1870.  He was the son of John Gwin of Dallas Co.  John Gwin was living in the household of William Gwin in the 1870's and died there in 1877, buried Wilsonville Cem.  Rosanna Gwin was a daughter of Nathaniel B. Wilson of Dallas Co. who died there in1875.  William and Rosanna Gwin had a son [William Sutton Gwin] who married Ida Eliza Bassett who was born in England, and both are buried in the Wilsonville Cemetery.  William and Ida Bassett Gwin had three sons, James B., John W., and William S. Jr.  I would like to contact their descendants. My g.g. grandmother was Mary B. Wilson and wife of Isom Gwin; mother of Mary Jane Gwin, wife of Wm. J. Smith of Dallas Co., AL.  My gg. grdpts, Mary B. Wilson Gwin and Rosanna Wilson Gwin were sisters.  They were the daughters of Nathaniel B. Wilson who was in Dallas Co. ca. 1820 and died there in 1875.

I have no proof, but I believe that Isom Gwin and Wm. Gwin were brothers and the sons of John Gwin who lived around Orrville, AL, and Old Cahaba in the 1850-60's in Dallas Co., AL..." Roy Lester Smith, Crowley, Texas.

I wrote to Mr. Smith about a year ago, and his widow was kind enough to reply.  I did NOT ask her what happened to his research on the Gwin/Guins.  Thought you might be interested.  In case you do not know, you will have to consider variant spellings of Guin/Gwin.  Liz Hicks erootrot@usa.net  [John M. Gwin NOTE: I am very grateful to Liz for sending me this e.mail, for it opened the door to my meeting Roy's widow, Barbara U. Smith, shortly afterward, who provided me copies of much of Roy's work, much of which was useful in opening doors to this entire branch of the family.]
 




 [John M. Gwin NOTE: I wasn't sure that Roy Lester Smith's Isom Gwin was my William Gwin's brother until I read Rev. Cotten's diary entry where he expressed regret that John had lost his son Isom on the date that Roy's Isom died.  That coupled with Roy's Isom's marriage to William's wife's sister has me totally convinced they are one and the same.]



Roy L. Smith reported that "Isom Gwin was a Justice of the Peace in Dallas Co., AL, and records show that he married numerous couples in Dallas Co.   They lived near Old Cahawba, AL, and he converted to the Methodist Episc. church that his father, John, helped to start at Old Cahawba." [John M. Gwin NOTE: We now know that Isom lived in Athens, Dallas Co., AL, about 17 miles west of Cahaba. I believe that the church which he joined was not at Cahaba but rather east Athens at Martin's Station, and that this was the church where the pastor was John Steadman, who likely preached Isom's funeral and who, as a widower himself, definitely married Isom's widow, Mary Burdine Wilson Gwin. Something unknown--fire or other damage, etc.--must have happened to this Steadman church at Martin's Station, and the church members must have negotiated with the congregation at Cahawba to move the old St. Luke's Episcopal church from Cahawba to Martin's Station where it remained until about 2006 when it was carefully returned to Cahawba. The antebellum cemetery of the original Methodist Episcopal Church at Martin's Station still exists right across the road and is still in use. Started when or before the town of Athens was begun, it contains scores of graves, including a section originally for slaves located farther back from the road. Isom Gwin's now-well-documented grave (above, top of page) is there, as are those of his older daughter Mary Ann Gwin Smith and the infant daughter of Isom's youngest brother Chesley.]





Concerning Isom Gwin's Slaves

[John M. Gwin NOTE: I have today, 10 August 2000, come into the possession of a photocopy of the original handwritten legal document transcribed as follows.  It is with sincere regret that I publish here its contents which indicate beyond a shadow of a doubt that Isom Gwin and his heirs--and therefore likely his parents and siblings as well--were slaveowners.  I had hoped beyond hope never to uncover such, and having not seen such evidence until today, had thought that perhaps these were morally above this. I hope that any descendants of these slaves can perhaps use this publication to trace their lineage at least this far. Assuming that these ten survived to emancipation and that each took a  surnames from a former "master", it occurred to me that descendants of these ten slaves might Google them more easily if their names were written here with the Gwin surname. However, since the "owners" changed, the last names taken at emancipation may have been those of the current "owners". I list them here, then, with all known possible surnames (based on this document, less spelling variations):]

1.    Jeff Gwin, Jeff Steadman
3.   Ann Gwin, Ann Steadman 5.  Joe Gwin, Joe Smith
7.  Adam Gwin, Adam Smith
9.  Emily Gwin, Emily Holley, Emily Lester
2.    Billy Gwin, Billy Steadman 4.   Maria Gwin, Maria Steadman 6.  Jane Gwin, Jane Smith
8.  George Gwin, George Holley, George Lester
10.  Mely Gwin, Mely Holley, Mely Lester


Transcription of the Probate Document:

"We the undersigned being appointed by the Hon. Probate Judge for Dallas County to appraise and divide the Negro property belonging to Isom [here only the first and last letters are certain, the center letters unclear--once it was Isham, then overwritten by Isom] Gwinn deceased, also to assess the value of the Hire for the present year, of the Negros belonging to said deceased which were retained in the possession of Wm. J. Smith, Admstr after being duly sworn have made the following appraisement, division and assessment--(the differense [sic]  of the different lots to be made equal by the three heirs one to another--)

Viz-
Lot No 1--allotted to Mrs. Mary B. Gwinn [John M. Gwin NOTE:  This is Isom's widow, Mary Burdine (nee Wilson) Gwin.]
consisting of Boy Jeff valued at    $1,300.00
        "          "    "  Billy   "         "      815.00
        "         " Girl Ann   "         "     1,025.00
        "      "Old Woman Maria "   "   370.00

 $3510.00
Lot No 2--allotted to Mrs. Mary Jane Smith [John M. Gwin NOTE: This is Isom's older daughter, Mary Jane (nee Gwin) (Mrs. Wm. J.) Smith.]
        "          "    "   Joe    "         "      $1380.00
        "         "      "  Jane     "         "       720.00
        "         "      "  Adam "      "         1150.00
    $3250.00
Lot No 3--allotted to Mrs. Martha Gwinn [John M. Gwin NOTE: This is Isom's younger daughter, Martha Rosanna (nee Gwin) (Mrs. Madison) Holley (Mrs. Bryant) Lester.]
     "          "    "   George  "     " $1780.00
           "         "      "  Emily   "     "     820.00
           "         "      "  Mely     "     "     700.00
$3300.00
For the hire of certain Negroes as aforementioned we assess as follows--
Viz--
George--$350.00
Joe-------- 275.00
Jeff--------- 56.25
Maria-------50.00
Billy--------22.50
$853.75
[signed:]
John D. Adams [John M. Gwin NOTE: This individual is unk. to me; however, he appears in the 1850 Census of Athens Town, Dallas Co., AL, as follows, and quite possibly could have been the Gwin family doctor, perhaps even the attending physician when Uncle Isom died.]
498/498
John D. Adams 38M Physician 2,400 NC
A. 28F GA
L. J 11M AL
B. C. 8M "
L.E. 6F "
J. A. 4M "
Antoinette 2F "
John L. Buckner [John M. Gwin NOTE: This individual is unk. to me; however, he appears in the 1850 Census of Warrenton, Dallas Co., AL, as follows, and was the same age as Isom. While Warrenton is in the eastern part of Dallas Co., it is possible he could have moved to the Athens area and become friends with Isom between 1850 and 1853.]
268/268
J. L. Buckner 33M Merchant SC
M. J. 19F AL
E. M. Mitton 23M H. Trader SC
Jackson Dennis 19M Clerk AL
F. P. Coleman 20M Retail Grocer "
Wm. D. King [John M. Gwin NOTE: At first review, one would think that this would almost have to be William Rufus DeVane King, neighbor and friend of Isom and John, for whom another son of John, William Gwin, had named his own son, Rufus King Gwin, in May of 1853. W. R. D. King was a slave holder and US senator from AL who became vice-president of the the US. However, Vice-president W. R. D. King had died in April of 1853, some eight months before Isom died, making it impossible for this signature to be that of the vice-president. In the first 1087 of 1375 households in Dallas Co. in the 1850 census, the only person this could be is a David King, 20, a clerk in Selma, listed as follows.]
1061/1061
D. C. Russel  36M Merchant 2,500 "
E. L. 23F ?
T. K.  8M AL
M. J. 6F    "
E. L. 9/12F "
David King 20M Clerk "
C. R. Gwin [John M. Gwin NOTE: This is either (a) Isom's youngest brother, Chesley Richard Gwin, or (b) Isom's uncle (brother of Isom's father, John Gwin) of the same name and namesake of Isom's youngest brother.]
Sworn to and subscribed before me this the 26th day of [month unclear] 185_ [last digit unclear]
[First initial unclear] C. Jackson [last 2 initials unclear--probably J. P. for Justice of the Peace]






Concerning the Unravelling of the Mystery of
Martha Roseanna Gwin Holley Lester's
Correct Genealogy

From:     "Barbara L.Ward" <genealogy@prodigy.net>

Date:       Wed, 7 Jan 2004 21:41:32 -0800
To:         "John Gwin" <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject:  Martha Rosanna Gwin Holley Lester  

Hi John,

After further research on my great grandmother, Martha Rosanna Gwin, daughter of Mary Burdine Wilson and Isom Gwin, I have concluded that she was indeed their natual daughter. Previously I stated that I thought she might have been "adopted" by the Gwins but actually the birth daughter of Dr. Bennett H. Perkins of Troup and Randolph counties, Georgia. Bennett H. and Sardinia Z. (Amoss) Perkins had three daughters (Cora V., Ella H. and Mittie Z. Perkins) and I thought perhaps Mittie Z. and my Martha R. were the same person.
Please view the following items that have surfaced recently that dispute this alleged fact.

1) Contact with Gertrude J. Stephens, author of Children of Mt. Soma (history of the Amoss family) produced some interesting facts. She sent me all the letters that she received from Lester descendants of Perry County, Alabama, regarding her query placed in the Marion Times newspaper on Martha R. Gwin. None of the five persons who responded had any knowledge that Martha R. wasn't the natural born daughter of Mary B. Wilson and Isom Gwin. The information that appeared in her book came from research that she (Gertrude Stephens) arrived at prior to the printing of the book, coming to the conclusion that Martha R. Gwin and Mittie Z. Lister were one and the same.
 
2) Contact with a great-granddaughter ofCora V. (Perkins) Coleman produced this information: Mitty/Mittie Z. Perkins resided Uniontown, Perry Co., AL. My Martha R. Gwin Holley Lester never lived in Uniontown. This particular person stated that "Mitty married Lester Hill; she was a very stylist person."
 
3) Wills written in Randolph Co., AL, dated 1887 (A. T. Amoss) and Avarilla E. (Amoss) Pryor (1888) listed their heirs as Cora V. Coleman of Heard Co., GA; Ella Perkins, Selma, Al; and Mittie Z. Lester/Lister residing Uniontown, Perry Co., AL.

4) Ella H. Perkins' will dated 1908 lists one of her heirs as sister Mrs. Mittie Z. Lister. My great-grandmother never went by Mittie and her middle name was never listed as "Z".

5) Contact with the Dallas County Court House, (Selma, Alabama) regarding Ella H. Perkins' probate records: "Ms. Mittie Z. Lister (as the petition states) is that she resided Birmingham, Jefferson Co., AL at the time of her sister Ella's death in 1913". My Martha R. Gwin Holley Lester never lived in Birmingham, AL.

6) Three years before sister Ella H. Perkins died:
1910 Census (Selma) Dallas Co., Alabama page 71A
Mittie Lister (widow) age 54 b. ca 1856, mother-in-law to a Clifford Johnson (wife Florence b. 1873).
(If this is the correct Mittie Lister, she was widowed sometime between 1908 when her sister Ella's will was written and the 1910 census where she is listed a widow.) I have no way of knowing if this is the correct Mittie but it's entirely possible; she was residing Birmingham, AL, just three years before her sister died.

If this is indeed the correct Mittie Z. (Perkins) Lister, it explains why Mittie Z. (whom I thought was Martha R. Gwin) wasn't in the 1850 census with her two sisters: Cora V. (1845) and Ella H. (1847).; she was the last child born (1856), the same year her father Dr. Bennett H. Perkins died. Her mother Sardinia died in 1858 and left three orphan daughters per the will of A. T. Amoss dated 1887.

The only discrepancy I have with the above data; Mittie Z. was supposedly married to a Lester Hill but she is listed as Mittie Z. Lister in all these documents. Strange!! Her husband's name may have gotten mixed up and he may have been Hill Lister/Lester. I have never found a marriage record for a Mittie Z. Perkins to a Lister.

7) All three orphan daughters of Bennett and Sardinia Amoss Perkins were raised by different families: Ella H. (per her obit) was raised by her uncle Dr. O. K. Coleman and resided with her cousin Annie Steele Hooper (Mrs. Lloyd) of Selma. Cora V. was living with B. B. Amoss in Macon, Ga., and later married Major John Tyler Coleman (of Virginia). It is unknown by whom Mittie was raised. I have had no luck finding her in any census year.

John, I hope this has satisfied the dilemma of Martha R. Gwin's birth parents. I have been extremely diligent in this search for Martha's parents and have followed every lead and every possible source for information on her. If you have come to the same conclusion that Martha R. was indeed the daughter of Mary B. Wilson, please adjust the information on your webpage to reflect his new information.

Regards,
BARB WARD

Hi, Barbara--great to talk with you!

I've looked over your evidence, and I agree with you, not only because of your seven good reasons above, but for at least four more as well:

1) The cover of her old photo album has only three initials: MRH.  If she were a Perkins, might not the Initials include a P? In fact, I don't see the name Perkins anywhere associated with her at all except in this ambiguous theory that  Ms. Gertrude J. Stephens made.  I know that by itself this is not necessarily a convincing reason, but I continue;

2) The obituary for Isom Gwin in the Dallas Gazette finishes with this: "He leaves a wife and two children to mourn the loss  of a kind husband and affectionate father."  While this is another reason that is not able to stand alone, the fact is that the sentence does not say that one was adopted.

3) People often name their children after favorite people in the Bible, and firstborn Mary and sister Martha are/were a favorite pair to many.  If Martha were adopted, it would seem quite a large coincidence, in my opinion, that her only sister would be named Mary.  Again, this by itself is not large, but taken with these, your seven, and one more, I'm convinced;

4) The fact that Martha's middle name is Rosanna seems huge to me.  I read somewhere that one custom of the day dictated that the firstborn would be named for the corresponding parent and/or grandparent and that the secondborn would be named for the corresponding eldest sibling of the parent.  Isom and Mary B. Wilson Gwin named their firstborn Mary after the mother and Jane after Mary's mother, thus keeping with this tradition.  Sure enough, their secondborn carries the same name as the oldest sister Mary had, Rosanna Carlisle Jones Wilson.  To me, these eleven reasons are evidence enough to justify our agreeing that the two children, Mary Jane Gwin and Martha Rosanna Gwin, are the natural-born children of Isom and Mary.

I'm delighted to claim you, then, as blood kin!  In fact, since our respective g-g-grandparents are the two brothers who married the two sisters, then that makes you and me officially double-fourth cousins!   :-)

Thanks again for all your work--talk to you later!

In Jesus,
John

From: "Barbara L.Ward" <genealogy@prodigy.net>
Date: Tue Jan 13, 2004  01:46:16 PM US/Mountain
To: "John Gwin" <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: Found Mittie Z. Lister!! Perkins/Gwin mystery solved at last!!

Hello John,
So excited!! Had a volunteer in Birmingham check the city directory for 1908, and he found a Mittie Z. Lister (widow of C. B. Lister) residing Birmingham for the right years, so I started checking census records for C. B. Lister and found them in the 1870 Marengo Co., AL, and 1880 in Uniontown, Perry Co., AL, just where she was according to the wills dated 1887 and 1908!!

This confirms that Mittie Z. Lister and Martha R. Gwin are two different people, and our mystery has been solved; thanks to several wonderful volunteers: the lady at the Dallas Court House who checked Ella's probate in 1908 and a fella named Paul who checked the city directory in Birmingham.

Here's a copy of the email I sent to Gertrude Stephens advising her of this fantastic find.

Catch you later,
BARB
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Barbara L.Ward" <genealogy@prodigy.net>
    To: "Gertrude J Stephens" <gjs123@juno.com>
    Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 12:39 PM
    Subject: BINGO!! Found Mittie Z. Lister!! 1870 and 1880 census

Hi Gertrude!

What a morning this has been!! Finally found Mittie Z. Lister, and our Perkins/Gwin dilemma has been solved! From the material I received this a.m. from Paul, I checked the 1870 census and found C. B. Lister, age 21, (telegraph operator); and M. Z. Lister, 19, (b. 1851) in Marengo Co., AL (Demopolis) page 298 with a Maggie Coats and C. B. Lister's mother Eliza Lister age 45. Just above that was a Lister, James W., age 29, probably a brother of C. B. Lister and another of Eliza's sons.

Went to the 1880 census index and found Charles  B. Lester (this time it is listed under Lester), age 31, Telegraph operater with M. Z. age 29, born GA; father b. GA, mother b. GA (matches completely with the Perkins' birthplaces!!) with two daughters: M. Z. age 10 and Florence age 8. This confirms that the Mittie Lister that I found in the 1910 census, Birmingham, AL, belongs to this family.  Mittie was residing with a Florence Johnson!

Can't believe it. I am 100% positive that there were two different people, and my Martha Gwin and Mittie Z. Lister are not the same people. I can't believe I missed Mittie being listed as M. Z. in the index. So obvious but missed the same!! From this discovery, you can add this information to your supplement and have information on all three daughters of Bennett H. Perkins! I am so excited!

Catch you later,
BARB





[John M. Gwin NOTE:  I copied the following from the 1880 Census for Town of Marion, Perry Co.,  AL.  Everything seems to fit our Martha R. (Gwin) Holley except the DOB (I have hers as 5 Apr 1843, a relatively small discrepancy) and the mother's POB (I have Mary B. Wilson being born in SC, not TN, though I can see that if she were born en route to AL from SC, Tennessee would be a real possiblity, since the families of NB Wilson and his brother EB Wilson were in Limestone Co., AL, just inside the Tennessee line, for the 1820 census.  And now Barbara has confirmed that this is indeed her g-g-grandma Martha and that there were three children living with her, Minnie, 17; Carlos, 12; and Clarence, 10.]
 
Individual Record  1880 United States Census
------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Mattie R. HOLLEY Household
    Female  
------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Other Information:
    Birth Year <1845
    Birthplace AL 
    Age 35 
    Occupation Farmer 
    Marital Status W <Widowed
    Race W <White
    Head of Household Mattie R. HOLLEY
    Relation Self 
    Father's Birthplace AL 
    Mother's Birthplace TN 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Source Information:
    Census Place Marion, Perry Co., Alabama 
    Family History Library Film 1254027
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Some Smiths buried in McLennan Co., TX (Waco is co. seat)

Gerald Cemetery
Gerald, McLennan County, Texas

Contributed by Sharon Joyce Erwin McNary [SHARONEMcNARY@cs.com]. Total records = 932.

SMITH, Lot A 236
SMITH, Lot A 238
SMITH, Lot A 042
SMITH, LILLIE M., b.May 12, 1924, d.April 5, 1985, Lot A 041
SMITH, MICHAEL W., b.August 19, 1959, d.May 15, 1983, SON STANLEY JR., Lot A 237
SMITH, STANLEY SAMUEL JR., b.0-0-1925, d.0-0-1979, Lot A 235, ARMY WW2


Mount Zion Cemetery
McLennan County, Texas

Lat: 31° 19' 22"N, 97° 24' 09"W

Contributed by Judy Reamy, Feb 25, 2003 [jreamy@msn.com]. Total Records = 44.
At the intersection of FM 107 & Dove Rd., between Moody & Oglesby.  This cemetery appears to be cared for but I don't know by whom. There is no fence, sign or hint of ownership. Appears to still be accepting burials. It is bisected by a newer road, with the Hendersons being on the other side from the other graves. I walked and read this cemetery in spring of 2002.  - Judy Reamy

Smith, Ernest C., b. 3/19/1919, d. 8/29/1967, TX, Army Air Force, WWII
Smith, Lillie May, b. 4/8/1931, d. 7/6/1983, "Daughter"
Smith, Minnie M., b. 3/26/1902, d. no date
Smith, Willie C., b. 3/9/1898, d. 12/12/1962


Naler Cemetery
Moody, McLennan County, Texas

Lat: 31° 18' 31"N, Lon: 97° 21' 52"W      Contributed by Judy Reamy, Feb 25, 2003 [jreamy@msn.com]. Total Records = 23.   Off 107 and Ave G, behind the city of Moody's wastewater treatment plant on the west side of town.  This cemetery is situated up on a hill behind a fence with a high, arched gate. It is well cared for. The date on the gate states 1870-1924. A work in progress, to be finished as soon as I am able. I first walked this cemetery in early spring 2001.  - Judy Reamy

Smith, Ruby E. (Naler), b. 2/6/1912, d. 3/2/2001, s/w William
Smith, William N., b. 8/21/1907, d. 12/4/1990, s/w Ruby


Patrick Cemetery
McLennan County, Texas

To reach take I35 SW on Lake Shore Dr., turn north on 19th (China Springs Road), north on Wortham Bend Rd, east on Rock Creek Rd., north on Lost Gold Rd and follow it to the Patrick Cemetery.   This is not a complete listing of burials! The records below were provided by contributors to Cemetery Records Online. Total records = 119.   Contributor's Index:  * [YA] Yvonne Akin [yvonne_akin@hotmail.com

SMITH, Commie, b. 19 Oct 1887, d. 3 Nov 1899, dau of W H & Laura,
SMITH, Laura, b. 4 Apr 1851, d. 1 Nov 1899, w of W H SMITH,
SMITH, W. H., b. 4 Feb 1845, d. 10 Mar 1907



Smiths buried in Hill Co., TX (north of McLennan Co.)

Fort Graham Cemetery
Hill County, Texas

Contributed by Cathy Shelley, May 14, 2000 [cathyshelley@hotmail.com]. Total records = 249.  Compiled March 2000, by Cathy Shelley.  Marker location from Whitney take FM 933 about 4.5 miles north and then go through to the guard shack at White Bluff. They will give you directions from there.

What the marker says:

Settlement in this area began shortly after Fort Graham, a frontier military post established here in 1849, was abandoned in 1853. The first recorded burial in this cemetery, named after the fort, was that of infant Charley Botkin in 1879. The Cemetery was the only one of a number of historic graveyards in this area to remain undisturbed by the creation of Lake Whitney in the early 1950s. Among the more than 300 people buried here are many of the area's early settlers and descendents. The cemetery remains active and and is maintained by an association formed in 1966. Sesquicentennial of Texas Statehood 1845-1995
Stone inside the gate says: In Memory of the unknown and unmarked who lie here. Courtesy of the American Legion Post 522

Smith, James Alfred, b. 19 Feb 1908, d. 2 Feb 1987
Smith, M.C., b. 14 Oct 1855, d. 28 Sep 1911
Smith, M.V., b. 21 Mar 1861, d. 4 Sep 1899, w/o M.C.Smith
Smith, Joseph S., d. 8 Sep 1879, age 2 yrs 2mo, s/o J.T. & S.L. Smith



 
  Some Armstrongs buried in Hill Co., TX (north of McLennan Co.)
Salem Cemetery
Hill County, Texas

20 miles east of Hillsboro, between Irene and Pelham. From FM308 take Ranch Road 1946.  Lat: 31°57'05"N, Lon: 96°53'44"W.  Contributed by Debra Newton, Apr 30, 2001 [salemtx@yahoo.com].  Total records = 508.  Note: This is Surnames A-M, additional burials will be added this summer.

The First Interment here was in 1870, but that grave was later moved. Oldest graves now are those of twin infants E. and P.J. Sheet, who died Feb. 9, 1871, and Synthia Green, who died Aug 9, 1871. R.M. and W.J. Graham and F.M. Reed gave the land to the Methodist Episcopal Church south in 1876 as a site for a church, school, and cemetery. One of the 826 graves here is that of Nathaniel Addison (1811 - 1900), A veteran of the Texas Revolution.

The Salem cemetery association, organized in 1904, is still active, but the church was closed in 1913, and the school consolidated with Irene in 1917.

[NOTE: Salem Cemetery is just across the county line in Hill County but many residents of Navarro were buried there. elw 9/97] Compiled April 2001 from sexton records  - Debra Newton

Armstrong, Isaac, b. 1/14/1905, d. 3/17/1905, age: 62yr
Armstrong, J S, d. 4/1/1936, age: 67yr
Armstrong, Mary A, d. 11/20/1879, age: 75yr
Armstrong, S A, d. 04/08/1879, age: 43yr





From: "Barbara L.Ward" <genealogy@prodigy.net>
Date: Tue Jan 20, 2004  09:43:26 PM US/Mountain
To: "John Gwin" <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: Re: Your new material on Robert Isom Smith

Hi John,
Yes, it looks great. Wanted to add a couple things.

A. Beatrice (Lester) Hendrick (b. 1904) had no children.
B. Alma Oneida Lester (b. 1909) never married; no children
C.Walter Wyatt Lester (b. 1908) two living children:
1) Ramona Jean (Lester) Prosperi Moxley b. 1929
2) Walter James "Bud" Lester b. 1931
I'm aware of the different birth years for Mattie Lester b. 1902. Her headstone says 1906 but my records show 1902 as being correct altho the census for 1910 shows Mattie is age 4; that would make her born in 1906, but family records say 1902.

I sent you just this afternoon the family group sheets that Barbara Smith sent me a few days ago. I sent you the originals as they were easier to read when I copied them. I kept the copies. You can keep them. Don't know if you have all his info.

Can't think of anything else right now. Loved seeing all the stuff you put on the webpage; even the letter written by Mrs. Ethel Holley Nichols.
Catch you later,
BARB





1880 census of McLennan Co., TX, reveals the following, whom I believe to be

Robert Isom Smith,

his bride, Mary Etta (Armstrong) Smith,
and their son, Walter Clarence Smith:
Name:    R. I. SMITH
Age:    24
Estimated birth year:    <1856>
Birthplace:    Alabama
Occupation:    Farmer
Relation:    Self
Home in 1880:    Mclennan, Texas
Marital status:    Married
Race:    White
Gender:    Male
Head of household:    R. I. SMITH
Father's birthplace:    TN
Mother's birthplace:    AL
Name:    M. E. SMITH
Age:    22
Estimated birth year:    <1858>
Birthplace:    Texas
Occupation:    Keeping House
Relation:    Wife
Home in 1880:    Mclennan, Texas
Marital status:    Married
Race:    White
Gender:    Female
Head of household:    R. I. SMITH
Father's birthplace:    MO
Mother's birthplace:    MO
Name:    W. C. SMITH
Age:    11/12
Estimated birth year:    <1879>
Birthplace:    Texas
Relation:    Son
Home in 1880:    Mclennan, Texas
Marital status:    Single
Race:    White
Gender:    Male
Head of household:    R. I. SMITH
Father's birthplace:    AL
Mother's birthplace:    TX




From: JAMESTWALL@aol.com
Date: January 10, 2008 1:42:55 PM MST
To: jmcdgwin@zianet.com
Subject: Land purchases by Chesley and Isum Guinn, Alabama

http://www.dna.ancestry.com/welcome.aspx?o_iid=33070&o_lid=33070
 
Exact Search Results - U.S. General Land Office Records, 1796-1907

All Court, Land, Wills & Financial Results    Viewing 1-50 of 152


Name    State of Record    Issue Date    Meridian    County    Township    Range    Section   

Charles Guinn      Alabama    15 May 1826    Huntsville    Tuscaloosa    18-S    12-W    1
Henry Guinn        Alabama    10 Jun 1826    Huntsville    Tuscaloosa    18-S    11-W    7   
Henry Guinn    Alabama    1 Dec 1826    Huntsville    Tuscaloosa    18-S    11-W    7  


John Guinn    Alabama    4 Sep 1834    St Stephens    Dallas    15-N    10-E    14   


Charles Guinn    Alabama    16 Oct 1834    Huntsville    Greene    22-S    13-W    24   


Chesley R Guinn    Alabama    12 Sep 1835    St Stephens    Perry    20-N    9-E    22 


Henry Guinn    Alabama    20 Mar 1837    St Stephens    Sumter    23-N    2-W    19   
Charles Guinn    Alabama    20 Mar 1837    St Stephens    Sumter    23-N    2-W    19   
Reuben Guinn    Alabama    20 Mar 1837    St Stephens    Sumter    23-N    2-W    18    
Charles Guinn    Alabama    20 Mar 1837    St Stephens    Pickens    24-N    2-W    31   
Henry Guinn    Alabama    20 Mar 1837    St Stephens    Pickens    24-N    3-W    25   

Isum Guinn    Alabama    15 Apr 1837    St Stephens    Montgomery    16-N    20-E    35

Isum Guinn    Alabama    15 May 1837    St Stephens    Montgomery    16-N    20-E    35
Isum Guinn    Alabama    1 Feb 1843    St Stephens    Macon, Montgomery    16-N    21-E    30

Isum Guinn    Alabama    1 Feb 1843    St Stephens    Montgomery    16-N    21-E    31
Isum Guinn    Alabama    1 Feb 1843    St Stephens    Montgomery    16-N    21-E    31


Wiley P Guinn    Alabama    1 Mar 1859    St Stephens    Choctaw    11-N    2-W    15
Wiley P Guinn    Alabama    1 Aug 1860    St Stephens    Choctaw    11-N    2-W    23
Francis H Guinn    Alabama    1 Sep 1860    St Stephens    Choctaw    11-N    3-W    1

 


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Family of Fernetta HOWDESHELL (93) & Thomas J. ARMSTRONG Jr.


204. Mary Etta ARMSTRONG. Born on 12 Sep 1856 in Hill County, Texas. Mary Etta died in McLennan County, Texas on 10 Apr 1902, she was 45.

On 23 Dec 1876 when Mary Etta was 20, she married Robert Isom SMITH, in Hill County, Texas. Born on 8 Aug 1855 in Dallas County, Alabama. Robert Isom died in McLennan County, Texas on 7 Nov 1914, he was 59.

They had the following children:
              i.       Walter Clarence (1878-)
              ii.       Maude Etta (1881-)
              iii.       Milton Claude (1884-1944)
              iv.       Lola Blanche (1888-)
              v.       Frank Dediat (1891-)
              vi.       Luther Dewitt (1893-)
              vii.       Mable Angeline (1896-)