.
Baysden Gwinn
and
Sarah Maddox
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SOURCE: Nancie O'Sullavin is a friend I met on this site. Neither of us has been able to connect our lines to the the other yet. But several things--(1) the common last name (GWIN has many misspellings--just kidding, Nancie! ;-), (2) the repetition of common given names in the early generations, (3) the proximity in setting, (4) our desire to make connections, (5) and now a possible common occupation (one of my sources for Isham says he was, like Baydsen, a miller--have pulled us together in spirit and prompted this page. For example, my John Gwin was born in Nov 1792 in Greene/Sevier Co., "western" NC (four years later this became the eastern end of the state of Tennessee). But his father, 22.00--Isham Gwin, could easily have been a sibling of Nancie's Baysden. This is pure speculation, of course, but such theories are often the root of successful research, are they not?
John Gwin, 2002--jmcdgwin@zianet.com
22.00--Baysden Gwinn, b. ca. 1770; d. 6 Jun 1845 in SC; m. betw. 1792-1793 to Sarah (Sally?) Maddox (b. ca.1776; d. 15 Feb 1848 in SC; d/o Mr. Maddox [b. 1760] and Elizabeth (nee unk., b. betw. 1755-1760; d. 6 Jan 1832 in Beaverdam Creek, SC); 12 ch.;
[Nancie's Notes: Baysden was a miller. The name has also been spelled Raysden or Basden. The information on his children was given to me by Charles Hawkins.
There is a possibility that Baysden's father was a John Gwin; there is a record of a John who was minister of a church in another county and moved later to Laurens Co. Little is known about Sarah Maddox's parents, but she did have siblings: John Maddox m. Barbary (nee unk.); William Maddox; Polly Maddox m. Thomas Simpson. Sarah was apparently a member of the Warrior Creek Baptist Church of Gray Court, SC. Her death is recorded in the early records of the church. Their mother, Elizabeth (nee unk.), remarried a Daniel Long thought to be a son of Ware Long of Culpepper, VA. From that marriage there were several children: Seymore, Daniel, Ware, Nancy, and Elizabeth.]

23.01--(daughter) Gwinn, b. unk.; m. B. Martin;

23.02--Elizabeth H. Gwinn, b. unk.; m. 6 Jan 1848 to Silas Handback;

23.03--James B. Gwinn, b. unk.;

23.04--Polly Gwinn, b. unk.;

23.05--William Gwinn, b. unk.;

23.06--John Gwinn, b. 8 Dec 1794; d. 6 Apr 1852 in Pauline, SC, near Walnut Grove; m. 21 Oct 1813 in Laurens Co., SC, to Rutha Higgins (b. 15 Feb 1793 in Cedar Springs, to Thomas Higgins and wife; d. 17 Jun 1862 in Pauline, SC, near Walnut Grove; four ch.; [Nancie's Notes: all from family Bible and tombstone. John' Gwinn's last words were, "Let me die the death of the righteous, and let my last end be like me." The Gwin family cemetery is located on road 50 one-half mile south of the intersection with road 111 in the Walnut Grove, SC, community. The stones are near the street several yards away from the house that stands there now. Rutha Higgins: " Her children called her the blessed. Died with Christ; she shall also live with Him." Not much is known about Rutha; there is a theory that her father's name was Thomas Higgins.]

[John M. Gwin Note: This from a 2001 Genforum posting: Nancie, I have traced back to Baysden Gwinn. I am a descendant of his through his son John (1795-1852). Is the James B. Gwinn you listed the son of Baysden with a birthdate of about 1792? I would love any info that you have. Please e-mail me at rayboii@prodigy.net.  Thanks!  Melanie
And here's a response to it from 2005:   Melanie, I have some information that may be of interest to you. I believe that my gg-grandfather, Thomas Melmouth Gwinn of Laurens, S.C., may have been the son of Baysden Gwinn by his first wife, whose name I understand was Sara or Sara Elizabeth. I also believe that her maiden name may have been Heimbeck, a German name which, like Gwinn, seems to have evolved into all sorts of spellings here in America: Hambeck, Hamback, Hambach, Hanback, Hanbach, Handback, etc.).  In view of your reference to both the Gwinn and Handback(s) families in your posting, I can't help but feel we must be related.  I have my family tree pretty well fleshed out beginning with Thomas Melmouth and his wife, Eliza (Gillespie), and welcome the opportunity to share information with you.  Mitch Gwinn ]


[John M. Gwin Note: The information listed in this box regarding the children of Nathaniel and Kesiah is not necessarily correct. Starting with Nancie's data that Kesiah, b. 14 Jan 1821 and m. to a Nathaniel Vise, I found in the 1850 census a Nathaniel Vise married to a Kesiah of about the right age. They were living in Illinois, however, so if this is our Vise family, then there was certainly a reason to uproot themselves and move to the slaveless northern frontier, possibly a family conflict over the institution of slavery. Nevertheless, in 1850 I could find no other family of Vises that remotely resembled Nathaniel and Kesiah, and so I have listed this information here.]

24.01--Kesiah Savilla Gwinn, b. 14 Jan 1821 [listed as Kesiah, age 30 in the 17 Oct 1850 census of Sangamon Co., IL]; [listed as Kesiah, age 30, in the 18 Jul 1860 census of Hall P.O., T5R5E, Hamilton Co., IL]; d. 31 Jan 1879; m. 17 Sep 1847 to Nathaniel Vise (b. ca. [listed as Nathaniel, age 32, in the 17 Oct 1850 census of Sangamon Co., IL]; [listed as Nathaniel, age 30, in the , in the 18 Jul 1860 census of Hall P.O., T5R5E, Hamilton Co., IL]; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least 3 ch.

25.01--Hosea H. Vise, b. ca. 1840 in SC [listed as Hosea, age 10, b. SC, in the 17 Oct 1850 census of Sangamon Co., IL]; [listed as Hazah, age 19, in the 18 Jul 1860 census of Hall P.O., T5R5E, Hamilton Co., IL]; [listed as Hosea, age29, b. IL, in the 11 Jun 1870 census of Akin P.O., T6S, R4E, Franklin Co., IL]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. Amanda P. (nee unk., b. ca. 1848 in IL [listed as Amanda P, age22, b. IL, in the 11 Jun 1870 census of Akin P.O., T6S, R4E, Franklin Co., IL]; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least 2 ch.

26.01--Perry A. Vise, b. ca. 1867 in IL [listed as Perry A., age 3, b. IL, in the 11 Jun 1870 census of Akin P.O., T6S, R4E, Franklin Co., IL]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.02--Hosea S. Vise, b. ca. 1869 in IL [listed as Hosea S., age 1, b. IL, in the 11 Jun 1870 census of Akin P.O., T6S, R4E, Franklin Co., IL]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.02--Jenett A. Vise, b. ca. 1844 in IL [listed as Jenett, age 6, b. IL, in the 17 Oct 1850 census of Sangamon Co., IL]; [listed as Genetta, age 16, in the 18 Jul 1860 census of Hall P.O., T5R5E, Hamilton Co., IL]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.03--John Vise, b. ca. 1849 in IL [listed as John, age 1, b. IL, in the 17 Oct 1850 census of Sangamon Co., IL]; [NOT listed as living at home in the 18 Jul 1860 census of Hall P.O., T5R5E, Hamilton Co., IL, and presumed deceased]; d. poss. betw. 1850 and 1860; bd. unk.; m. prob. never; prob. no ch.

25.04--Marquess D. L. Vise, b. ca. 1852 in IL [listed as Marquess D. L., age 8, in the 18 Jul 1860 census of Hall P.O., T5R5E, Hamilton Co., IL]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.05--Nathaniel G. Vise, b. ca. 1858 in IL [listed as Nathaniel G., age 2, in the 18 Jul 1860 census of Hall P.O., T5R5E, Hamilton Co., IL]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

24.02--Josiah Gwinn, b. 9 Jun 1823; d. 2 Jul 1865; m1. 26 Mar 1843 to Elizabeth Moore (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); m2. in 1862 to Julia Bearden (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch. [Nancie's Notes: (UDC PATRIOT) Co. G, 27th SC Infantry, enlisted at Spartanburg, SC, by Lt. Thompson; captured at Petersburg 21 Aug 1864 (Weldon Railroad); arrived at Lookout Point 24 Aug 1864; exchanged 30 Oct 1864; paroled at Point Lookout, MD. Josiah's will is recorded in the Spartanburg Co. Courthouse. Elizabeth Moore: died shortly after the birth of their sixth child. Julia Bearden: After William Thomas died, she married Silas Miles, and what became of her is unknown.]

25.01--Kisiah Gwinn, b. 29 Jun 1845; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.02--George Meadows Freeman Gwinn, b. 6 Sep 1848 in SC [listed as George M. Gwinn, age 52, b. Sep 1847, in the 21 Jun 1900 census of Woodruff Twp., Spartanburg Co., SC]; d. 15 May 1919; bd. at Lucas Ave. Baptist Church, Watts Mill, SC; m. 23 Nov 1879 (but Geo. and  Emma both state in 1900 that they've been married 23 years, ) to Emma C. Bullington (b. 10 Nov 1859 in SC [listed as Emma C. Gwinn, age 40, b. Nov 1859, m. 23 yrs,, in the 21 Jun 1900 census of Woodruff Twp., Spartanburg Co., SC]; d. 2 Sep 1941; bd. at First Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church, Woodruff; d/o Berryman H. Bullington [b. 1829 in SC; s/o Samuel and Elizabeth Jackson Bullington] and Tabiatha Golightly); 11 ch. [Nancie's Notes: George and Emma had 11 children. Due to very serious illnesses of Emma (typhoid fever), two of the children were given up for adoption. Jessie was adopted by a Dorman family, believed to be his aunt, Moline Gwin Dorman, George's sister. Jessie chose Dorman for his name. Preston was also adopted, and it is believed that he, too, was adopted by some family member. He kept his surname Gwin. There was a misspelling on the tombstone; his name was spelled with a u instead of a w, and it was never corrected. George served in the Confederacy in Co. A, 1st Battalion, Blanchard's Brigade, State Reserves, SC Volunteers. This unit was mustered at Spartanburg, SC, in the summer of 1864. George would have been 15 years old at the time of muster and 16 in the fall of '64. He lost an arm in the war. His father's will was not probated until 22 May 1873, and most of the assets left by Josiah had been liquidated by this time, leaving the estate's value at only $261.40, of which George received $34.85.]

26.01--William Franklin Gwin, b. 13 Mar 1878 in SC [listed as William F. Guinn, age 22, b. Mar 1878, in the 21 Jun 1900 census of Woodruff Twp., Spartanburg Co., SC]; [listed as Wm. F. Gwinn, age 32, in the 30 Apr 1910 census of Laurens, Laurens Co., SC]; d. 7 Dec 1942; bd. in First Baptist Church Cem., Woodruff, Spartanburg, SC; m. 21 Jan 1906 to Floy Emma "Em" Scott (b. ca. 1889 in SC [listed as Floy M. Guinn, age 21, in the 30 Apr 1910 census of Laurens, Laurens Co., SC]; d. unk.; bd. unk.); a least one ch.

27.01--Roy Gwinn, b. ca. 1905 [listed as Roy Guinn, age 5, in the 30 Apr 1910 census of Laurens, Laurens Co., SC]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.02--John Henry Gwinn, b. 8 Apr 1880 in SC [listed as John H. Gwinn, age 20, b. Apr 1880, in the 21 Jun 1900 census of Woodruff Twp., Spartanburg Co., SC]; d. Dec. 1964; m. Macie Jackson (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.;

26.03--Charles J. "Charlie" Gwinn, b. 9 Sep 1882 in SC [listed as Charlie Gwinn, age 18, b. Sep 1881, in the 21 Jun 1900 census of Woodruff Twp., Spartanburg Co., SC]; d. 7 Feb 1938; m. Ida Johnson (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); no ch. [Nancie's Notes: Charles was a tenant farmer, the only member of this family who did not work in textiles. He had no children but provided a home for several orphans. "Uncle Charlie" has been described as "one of the happiest, best-natured, and hardest working individuals of his time."]

26.04--Jessie Cleveland Gwinn, b. 23 Sep 1884 in SC [not listed as living at home in the 21 Jun 1900 census of Woodruff Twp., Spartanburg Co., SC, and assumed to be married and living elsewhere]; m. Mollie Hembree (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.;

26.05--Clarence Edgar "Eddie" Gwinn, b. 13 July 1886, Laurens Co., SC [listed as Eddie Gwinn, age 13, b. Jul 1886, in the 21 Jun 1900 census of Woodruff Twp., Spartanburg Co., SC]; d. 10 Dec. 1968 at Drayton, SC (family moved to Drayton ca. 1929  fr. Watts Mill); m. Daisy Hughes (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); 10 ch.

27.01--Aileen Gwinn, m. James Finch (s/o John & Emily Hunsinger Finch;)

27.02--Ezell Gwinn, m. Orell Plummer of Jena, LA;

27.03--Agnes Gwinn, m. Woodrow Rogers

27.04--Virginia Fay Gwinn, m. John O'Sullavin, s/o Dennis & Maggie B. Lark O'Sullavin;

28.01--Nancie O'Sullavin;

27.05--Frances Gwinn, m. Carl Brannon;

27.06--Everett Gwinn, m. Blanche Green;

27.07--Catherine Gwinn, m. Charles Henderson;

27.08--Imogene Gwinn, m. Rev. Hiram McElrath;

28.01--Joye McElrath; m. Mr. Hanna;

27.09--Jewell Gwinn, m. Kenneth Gillis at Camp Croft, moved to Fla.;

27.10--Barbara Gwinn;

Spartanburg Herald, Dec. 12, 1968

Drayton--CLARENCE EDGAR GWINN, 82, of Floyd St., Drayton,
died at Spartanburg General Hospital Tuesday evening, after a long
illness. He was the son of the late GEORGE & EMMA
BULLINGTON GWINN of Laurens.
Member of Drayton Bapt. Ch; retired textile worker.
Survivors, wife, DAISY HUGHES GWINN, daughters; MRS. JAMES
FINCH and MRS. JOHN O'SULLIVAN , both of Drayton, MRS.
WOODROW ROGERS of Charleston, MRS. FRANCIS BRANNON
of Cowpens, MRS. KENNETH GILLIS of Jacksonville, Fla., MRS.
CHARLES HENDERSON of Sptbg., MRS. HIRAM McELRATH of
Leesville, and Miss Barbara GWINN of home; sons, EZELL GWINN
of Jena, La., and EVERETT GWINN of Sptbg.; brother, CARL GWIN
of Laurens, sister; MRS. LAVADA HILL of Woodruff; 22
grandchildren and 11 great grandchildren.
J.F. Floyd Mortuary, by the REV. HAYWOOD COMER and REV.S.H. POSTON; buried at Sunset Memorial Garden.


26.06--Preston Eugene Gwinn, b. 16 Apr 1889 in SC [listed as Preston E. Gwinn, age 11, b. Apr 1889, in the 21 Jun 1900 census of Woodruff Twp., Spartanburg Co., SC]; d. 23 Apr 1932; m. Lillie (nee unk.); 1 child [Nancie's Notes: Preston was also adopted out of the immediate family, and it is believed that he, too, was adopted by some member of the extended family; whether it was Moline is not known. He retained the Gwinn name.]

27.01--Fred (m.n. unk.) Gwinn,

26.07--Lawrence Grady Gwin, b. 30 Dec. 1891 in SC [listed as Lawrens Gwinn, age 9, b. Dec 1890, in the 21 Jun 1900 census of Woodruff Twp., Spartanburg Co., SC]; d. 1 Jan 1966; m. Maude Stroud;

26.08--Perry Thomas Gwinn, b. 2 Apr 1894 in SC [listed as Perry Gwinn, age 7, b. Apr 1893, in the 21 Jun 1900 census of Woodruff Twp., Spartanburg Co., SC]; d. ______; m1. Alma Bragg; m2. Essie Ballard;

26.09--Elizabeth Melvina Gwinn, b. 15 Jan 1896 in SC [listed as Lizzie Gwinn, age 4, b. Jan 1896, in the 21 Jun 1900 census of Woodruff Twp., Spartanburg Co., SC]; d. 2 Feb 1941; m. Niles Workman;

26.10--Olevia Lavada Gwinn, b. 2 Feb 1898 in SC [listed as Levada Gwinn, age 2, b. Feb 1898, in the 21 Jun 1900 census of Woodruff Twp., Spartanburg Co., SC]; d. 14 Feb 1981; m. Claude Hill;

26.11--Carl Alonzo Gwinn, b. 5 Nov 1899 in SC [listed as Arthur Gwinn, age 4mos., b. Jan 1900, in the 21 Jun 1900 census of Woodruff Twp., Spartanburg Co., SC]; d. 14 Jun 1969; m1. Lillie Franks; m2. Margaret Brewington;

25.03--Moline Gwinn, b. 15 Apr 1850; m. Mack Dorman (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.;

25.04--John Ezell Gwinn, b. 22 May 1854; d. 14 Feb. 1926; m. in Greenville, SC, to Frances Gilreath (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.;

25.05--Frances E. Gwinn, b. 15 Apr 1857; d. 30 April 1891; m. in Spartanburg, SC, to B. F. Lindsay (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.;

25.06--Fannie (Sarah) Gwinn, b. 8 Mar 1862; d. 11 Feb 1913; m. 25 Mar 1879 to Robert James McCarley Thomas (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.;

24.03--Catherine Gwinn, b. 7 Mar 1827; d. 28 Aug 1892; m. 13 Aug 1848 to John O'Shields (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.;

24.04--Mansel Gwinn, b. 3 Apr 1829; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.;

23.07--Elias Gwinn, b. 1802; d. Jan 1883; m. Lucinda Leopard (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.;

23.08--Thomas Gwinn, b. 1807; d. 1859; m. Frances Davis (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.;

23.09--Reuben Gwinn, b. 22 Oct 1809; d. unk.; m. 22 Dec 1825 in SC to Elizabeth Marler (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.;

23.10--Lewis Gwinn, b. 12 Feb 1821; d. 25 Sep 1907, bd. in Pleasant Hill Cem., Franklin, GA; m. Dec 1839 to Lucinda Gillespie (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.; [Nancie's notes: Charles Hawkins states this may not be one of Baysden's children. But Greenville Mountaineer--is the source for the marriage of Lewis and Lucinda. The 1860 census of Franklin Co., Ga., listed Catherine Handback, age 92, as living with the Lewis Gwinn family, and in the 1880 census of Franklin, Lewis indicated his father was born in Virginia. Lewis is reported to have moved to Franklin Co., Ga., between 850 and 1852. Lewis and Lucinda had eight children, three born in SC and five born in Ga.; the first daughter was named Sarah after Lewis's mother.]

23.11--Nancy M. Gwinn, b. 22 Apr 1828; d. 19 Nov 1897; m. Austin Creek (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.;

23.12--Nancy Emma Gwinn, b. 1825 (sic); d. 1877; m. Starling Tucker Riddle (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.;

Some Significant Census Data



From the 1810 census of Laurens District, SC


 Name
 M
0-9
 M
10-15
 M 16-25
 M
26-44
 M 45-up
 F
0-9
 F
10-15
 F 16-25
 F 26-44
 F 45-up
 All other
free persons
except Indians
not taxed
 Slaves
 John M. Gwin Comments

Baysdin Gwin
 3
[I SPECULATE THESE THREE TO BE JAMES AND REUBEN AND PERHAPS JAMES OR WILLIAM.]
 2
[THESE TWO MUST BE JOHN AND ELIAS.]
 --
 1
[BAYSDEN]
 --
 1
[THIS SHOULD EITHER BE POLLY OR ELIZABETH.]
 1
[THIS SHOULD EITHER BE POLLY OR ELIZABETH.]		 --
 1
[SARAH]
 --
 --
 --
 These have to be Nancie's Baysden and Sarah and seven of their children.  He has the right name, they are the right ages and of the right number and in the right district--everything fits.
This is a followup table to the above 1810 census excerpt;
it is an attempt to discern which of Baysden's and Sarah's children are the seven listed above.

 Name
 Est.
YOB
 Fits what 1810 age group?

John M. Gwin Analysis and Comments

Baysden Gwinn
 1770
 He's 39-40 in 1810.



Sarah Gwinn 1776
 She's 33-34 in 1810.



unk. daughter Gwinn (eventually Mrs. Martin)
 unk.


Since we don't know the date of birth of this person, she could've come later in the birth order.  Or, since she's the only one who is called by her married name, parhaps she is indeed the eldest and was already moved out of the house by 1810.

Elizabeth H. Gwinn unk.


Since we don't know the date of birth of this person, she could've come later in the birth order.  Baysden and Sarah had seven kids showing in 1810; this could've been one of them.  She is one of two daughters, then--Elizabeth and Polly--exactly what the 1810 census says.

James B. Gwinn unk.


Since we don't know the date of birth of this person, he could've come later in the birth order.  Baysden and Sarah had seven kids showing in 1810; this could've been one of them. There are five sons here, then, who could easily fit into the 1810 scenario.

Polly Gwinn unk.


Since we don't know the date of birth of this person, she could've come later in the birth order.  Baysden and Sarah had seven kids showing in 1810; this could've been one of them, in which case she would be one of two daughters, then--Elizabeth and Polly--exactly what the 1810 census says.

William Gwinn unk.


Since we don't know the date of birth of this person, he could've come later in the birth order.  Baysden and Sarah had seven kids showing in 1810; this could've been one of them. There are five sons here, then, who could easily fit into the 1810 scenario.

John Gwinn 1774
 None--he would've been 36 YOA in 1810--

Who IS this person??? He is only four years younger than Baysden!  There has to be an error here somewhere... Perhaps he was born in 1794, not 1774, making him 15 or 16 here in 1810.

Elias Gwinn 1802
 He would've been 8 YOA in 1810.



Thomas Gwinn 1807
 He would've been 3 YOA in 1810.



Reuben Gwinn 1809
 He would've been 1 YOA in 1810.



Lewis Gwinn 1821
 He wasn't born yet in 1810.



Nancy M. Gwinn 1828
 She wasn't born yet in 1810.



Nancy Emma Gwinn 1825
 She wasn't born yet in 1810.



From the 17 Oct 1850 census of Sangamon Co., IL

Res/Fam
 Name
 Race/
Sex		 Age
 Est DOB
fr. age
 POB
 $Real
Prop.
 Occ.
 John M. Gwin Comments
968/968
 Nathaniel Vice
 wm
 32
 1818
 SC
farmer
 This family moved from the land of their birth to the frontier, Illinois,  between 1840 and 1844.  Was it to escape the evils of slavery?

Kesiah Vice wf
 30
 1820
 SC

This is 3.01--Kesiah Savilla Gwinn, d/o John and Rutha Higgins Gwin.

Hosea Vice wm
 10
 1840
 SC



Jenett Vice wf
 6
 1844
 IL



John Vice wm
 1
 1849
 IL


From the 18 Jul 1860 census of T5, R5E, Hall P.O., Hamilton Co., IL

Res/Fam
 Name
 Race/
Sex		 Age
 Est DOB
fr. age
 POB
 $Real
Per$Prop.
 Occ.
 John M. Gwin Comments
705/705
 Nathaniel Vise
 wm
 41
 1819
 SC
 900/500
 farmer

Kizziah Vise wf
 39
 1821
 SC

Here is Keziah's family again.

Hazah H. Vise wm
 19
 1841
 SC

This will be Hosea; we learn here that his middle initial is H.

Genetta A. Vise wf
 16
 1844
 IL

This is Jeanetta;we learn here that her middle initial is A.

Marquess D. L. Vise wm
 8
 1852
 IL



Nathaniel G. Vise wm
 2
 1858
 IL


From the 21 Jun 1900 census of Woodruff Twp., Spartanburg Co., SC

Street/
Res/Fam
 Name
 Race/
Sex		 Relat
2HoH
 DOB
 Age
 Marr.St./
Yrs.Md.
 #Ch.Bn.
#Lvg.
 POB
S/F/M		 Occ.
 John M. Gwin Comments
-----/160/162
 George M. Gwinn
 wm
 head
 Sep 1847
 52
 m/23
SC/SC/SC
 farmer
 This is clearly 4.02--George Meadows Gwinn, above (Ancestry.com has mistranscribed this last name as "Erwinn"--no wonder I couldn't find them!).

Emma C. Gwinn
 wf
 wife
 Nov 1859
 40
 m/23 11/11
 SC/SC/SC
Emma states here that she has borne 11 children, not ten, and that all are living.

William F. Gwinn
 wm
 son
 Mar 1878
 22
 s
SC/SC/SC farm laborer

John H. Gwinn
 wm
 son
 Apr 1880
 20
 s
SC/SC/SC farm laborer

Charlie
 wm
 son Sep 1881
 18
 s
SC/SC/SC farm laborer

Eddie
 wm
 son Jul 1886
 13
 s
SC/SC/SC at school

Preston E.
 wm
 son Apr 1889
 11
 s
SC/SC/SC at school

Lawrens
 wm
 son Dec 1890
 9
 s
SC/SC/SC


Perry
 wm
 son Apr 1893
 7
 s
SC/SC/SC


Lizzie
 wf
 daughter
 Jan 1896
 4
 s
SC/SC/SC


Levada
 wf
 daughter
 Feb 1898
 2
 s
SC/SC/SC


Arthur
 wm
 son Jan 1900
 4mos.
 s
SC/SC/SC

From the 21-27 Apr 1910 census of Woodruff, Woodruff Twp., Spartanburg Co., SC

Street/
Res/Fam
 Name
 Race/
Sex		 Relat
2HoH
 Est.DOB
from age
 Age
 Marr.St./
Yrs.Md.
 #Ch.Bn./
#Lvg.
 POB
S/F/M		 Occ.
 John M. Gwin Comments
---/178/179
 George M. F. Gwinn
 wm
 head
 1848
 62
 m1, 34
SC/SC/SC farmer
 Good grief. Ancestry.com has done it again, mistranscribing this last name as Gnann, for Pete's sake. On Ancestry's behalf, on the other hand, I know this old handwriting is hard to read.

Emma C. Gwinn wf
 wife
 1860
 50
 m1, 34 11/11
 SC/SC/SC none

Preston E. Gwinn wm
 son
 1889
 21
 s
SC/SC/SC farm laborer

Perry T. Gwinn wm
 son
 1895
 15
 s
SC/SC/SC farm laborer

Elizabeth Gwinn wf
 daughter
 1896
 14
 s
SC/SC/SC none

Olevia C. Gwinn wf
 daughter
 1898
 12
 s
SC/SC/SC none

Carl L. Gwinn
 wm
 son
 1901
 9
 s
SC/SC/SC none
---/149/150
 Charlie Gwinn
 wm
 head
 1883
 27
 m1, 5
SC/SC/SC farmer
 Here are Charlie and Ida, just like Nancie said: no children of their own, but always having someone else living with them to help take care of.

Ida Gwinn
 wf
 wife
 1889
 21
 m1, 5
 0/0
 SC/SC/SC none

Lawrence Gwinn
 wm
 brother
 1892
 18
 s
SC/SC/SC farm labor

Elbert (Colbert?) Johnson
 wm
 brother-in-law
 1891
 19
 s
SC/SC/SC farm labor
 This is Ida's younger brother.
---/104/103
 John Gwin
 wm
 head
33
 m1, 12
SC/SC/SC truck farm overseer I have no idea who this is, but he's clearly a Gwin and living in the same town as Nancie's families of George M. F. Gwinn's descendants. And this is a one-en Gwin, while all the others are two-enners.

Lenora Gwin wf
 wife
33
 m1, 12
 5/5
 SC/SC/SC seamstress

T__ry Gwin wm
 son
11
 s
SC/SC/SC none

James I. Gwin wm
 son
9
 s
SC/SC/SC none

Carroll A. Gwin wm
 son
6
 s
SC/SC/SC none

Alta M. Gwin wf
 daughter
2
 s
SC/SC/SC none

Jeffoson Gwin wm
 son
0mos.
 s
SC/SC/SC none

From the 9-23 Jan 1920 census of Laurens Twp., Laurens Co., SC

Street/
Res/Fam
 Name
 Race/
Sex		 Relat
2HoH
 Est.DOB
from age
 Age
 Marr.St.
 POB
S/F/M		 Occ.
 John M. Gwin Comments
5 Beattie St.,
Watts Mill Village/
77/77
 Ema C. Gwinn
 wf
 head
 1861
 59
 wd
 SC/SC/SC none
 Just like Nancie said, George is now deceased and Emma is alone except for her youngest, Carl.

Carl Gwinn
 wm
 son
 1901
 19
 s
 SC/SC/SC weaver, cotton mill
8 Smyth St.,
Watts Mill Village/
145/145		 Clarence E. Gwin
 wm
 head
 1887
 33
 m
 SC/SC/SC weaver, cotton mill This is Nancie's grandfather, Clarence Edgar "Eddie" Gwinn, and his family

Daisy
 wf
 wife
 1891
 29
 m
 SC/SC/SC none

Alline
 wf
 daughter
 1911
 9
 s
 SC/SC/SC none
 Aileen

Ezell
 wm
 son
 1914
 6
 s
 SC/SC/SC none

Virginia
 wf
 daughter
 Jul 1915
 4yrs.
6mos.
 s
 SC/SC/SC none Nancie's mother, who, if whe is still alive, is around 94 years old.

Agnes
 wf
 daughter
 1918
 2
 s
 SC/SC/SC none
12 Smyth St.,
Watts Mill Village/
167/167		 Lawrence Gwinn
 wm
 head
 1894
 26
 m
 SC/SC/SC weaver, cotton mill

Maude E.
 wf
 wife
 1899
 21
 m
 SC/SC/SC none

Dorthy V.
 wf
 daughter
 Dec 1917
 25mos.
 s
 SC/SC/SC none
X Lulas Ave.,
Watts Mill Village/
333/334		 Grove C. Gwinn
 wm
 head
 1885
 35
 m
 SC/SC/SC salesman, retail dry goods store
 His name must be Grover Cleveland Gwinn, but though he lives right in Watts Mill, I have no idea who he is. Perhaps he is a cousin--a nephew of George and son of John Ezell Gwin.

Nora Gwinn
 wf
 wife
 1887
 33
 m
 SC/SC/SC


Dwight Gwinn
 wm
 son
 1905
 15
 s
 SC/SC/SC


Grace Gwinn
 wf
 daughter
 1907
 13
 s
 SC/SC/SC

































Correspondence and Other Notes
Subject: new Ware Long Ancestry Page
Received: 5/26/02 2:49 PM
From: William Long, wdlong2@attbi.com
To: John McDonald Gwin, jmcdgwin@zianet.com

Dear John,

I am responding to your web page.  My name is Bill Long, and I am a descendant of Ware Long.  I see that on your page you have a notation for Nancie's notes where it is mentioned "Their mother, Elizabeth, remarried a Daniel Long thought to be a son of Ware Long of Culpepper, Va.  From that marriage there were several children:  Seymore, Daniel, Ware, Nancy, and Elizabeth."

I would be interested in corresponding with anyone who may have been a descendant of Daniel Long.

This is just to let you know that I have started a new Ware Long Ancestry Page on MyFamily.com. I have 105 mb of storage space. The space is intended for those who are researching Ware Long to share information, and in addition for the descendant lines to store photos, records, and information. It is an excellent way of electronically preserving the information and keeping it available for others.

I have much to download and only have a few things on the site right now. However, I will be shortly sending out invitations to the site, and if you are a descendant of this line or are interested in researching the line, I would like to send you an invitation. I would also be interested in contacting Nancie to invite her to the site.

Bill Long
Olympia, WA

From: "Jawee" <jawee@comcast.net>
Date: Fri Jun 16, 2006  06:49:34 PM US/Mountain
To: "John Gwin" <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: Re: Another Gwin/Chesley Connection
Reply-To: "Jawee" <jawee@comcast.net>

Nancie is my cousin. We have been tracking this family forever. When I was 9 years old my daddy became pastor of a church in the upper part of the state in SC. One day as I was exploring through the woods, I ran across a grave that had my mother's last name on it. Now I know it belonged to Baysden Gwin's wife Sarah Maddox. From that day--I am now in my dont-tell middle age--we have been looking for the history of our family. Nancy and I have found that Baysden's father's name was John Gwin who married Elizabeth Baisden in Southhampton, Va. Someone told me that they had two sons named John (Baisden?) and William. Could this John Gwin (Chesley's parents) have remarried at some point? Nannie's email is nancieo@earthlink.net. Let's keep in touch. Also in Christ, Joye McElrath Hanna

----- Original Message -----
From: John Gwin
To: Jawee
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 7:35 PM
Subject: Re: Another Gwin/Chesley Connection

On Friday, June 16, 2006, at 09:48 AM, Jawee wrote:

Hi, My name is Joye McElrath Hanna from South Carolina. I was looking at your web site because I am doing a family tree from John Gwin/Elizabeth Baisden line from the 1700's in Southhampton, Va to my mother who is a Gwin. It is interesting that several ancestors as well as my uncle have Chesley in their name. I have tried to find a reason but have not been sucessful. Do you have any info on the Gwin's in SC that may help. Thanks, Joye

Joye,
I'm delighted to hear from you--thanks for writing!

I'm excited about the possiblities here, and I hardly know where to begin. Let's just jump right in:

First of all, I don't know what parts of the site you have had time to visit yet, so if you've already seen this, just skip it. If not, this might be very important for you. Several years ago a researcher named Nancy O'Sullavin wrote to me about her Baysden Gwin in SC. Nothing rang any bells, so I built a page for her line for her and posted the page on my site under "Unrelated (As-of-yet) Gwins". I've tried to make contact with her since, but she changed e.mail addresses and didn't tell me her new one. Anyway, here's the link to my page for her--see what you think:

http://www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin/GENEALOGY/SURNAMES/Gwin/gwinnbaysden.htm

Secondly, I have a theory about Chesley. By now you probably know where my own Chesleys' names come from: my ggggg-grandpa, Richard Gwin, married Sarah Chesley near Jamestown sometime around 1760-1770 or so. (We believe that one of the Chesley Gwins who appear in Alabama is their son and my gggg-granduncle.)

Meanwhile, Richard's and Sarah's son Isham Gwin married Mary Canterbury in Montgomery Co., VA, and eventually became my gggg-grandparents. Their son John Gwin married Jane Walker and became my ggg-grandparents, and it was one of THEIR kids, Chesley R. Gwin (we're pretty sure the R is for Richard), who is the Chesley Gwin about whom we know the most. Here's our page for him:

http://www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin/GENEALOGY/SURNAMES/Gwin/gwinChesleyR.htm

Isham and Mary had one child who MAY have been named Chesley, but we're least clear about this one. FOR SURE two of Isham's and Mary's sons--William and John--moved to Alabama. IF this third child was a son, and IF he was named Chesley, and IF he moved with William and Ggg-grandpa John, then he is one of the Chesleys in AL.

Now back to my theory: Richard and Sarah must have had other children, and one of them was probably a son named Chesley who moved south into SC. Here's one more webpage to investigate--see what you think:

http://www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin/GENEALOGY/SURNAMES/Gwin/gwinnchesleyleviniaclay.htm

I have to go now--have fun looking--let me hear from you when you've had a chance to digest some of it.

Best to you,
In Jesus,
John (Contact information:)
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Telephone: (505) 522-2171
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From: "Jawee" <jawee@comcast.net>
Date: Sun Jun 18, 2006  07:39:54 AM US/Mountain
To: "John Gwin" <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: Re: Another Gwin/Chesley Connection
Reply-To: "Jawee" <jawee@comcast.net>

You reference Charles Hawkins and Warrior Creek Baptist Church on the Baysden website. Warrior Creek is the church my daddy pastored for awhile. I grew up with Charles' sons when I was little. My and Nancie's  grandmother, Daisey Hughes, grew up at Warrior Creek also. The Hughes/Gwin families have a long history in that area. As a matter of fact Daisy's grandfather is Chesley Hughes from Laurens Co., SC. -- Joye
 

From the HUGHES Family Forum at Genforum.com:

Chesley Hughes b 1839 - SC
Posted by: Fredd Culbertson
Date: September 30, 1999 at 21:53:20
 3126  of 11422

I'm trying to find info on my ggrandfather.
There have been several posts on Chesley Hughes' here but I haven't been able to tie them together.

Chesley HUGHES
BIRTH: JUL-08-1839
DEATH: MAR-06-1924
BURIAL: Warrior Creek
Married: Louise BURNS

Children:
Arminta Hughes (MITTIE) my grandmother
Harriet HUGHES
Mattie HUGHES
Veal HUGHES
Virgil HUGHES
Lila HUGHES
Lilly HUGHES
Leila HUGHES
Dock HUGHES
Tilman HUGHES
Fed HUGHES
Gary HUGHES
Thanks for any info you have, -Fredd

Followups:
* Re: Chesley Hughes b 1839 - SC Regina Hughes Hartman 6/06/04
* Re: Chesley Hughes b 1839 - SC A. Deason Smith 1/03/02
* Re: Chesley Hughes b 1839 - SC Lesley Hughes 9/24/03
* Re: Chesley Hughes b 1839 - SC Debbie Hines 9/12/03
* Re: Chesley Hughes b 1839 - SC Maryjane Hughes Brinkerhoff 9/25/00
* Re: Chesley Hughes b 1839 - SC Patricia Trussell-Mann 6/24/04
* Re: Chesley Hughes b 1839 - SC Nancie O'Sullivan 3/26/06


Re: GWINN, MADDOX, HIGGINS, HANDBACKS
Posted by: Melanie Holland Date: April 02, 2001 at 15:28:23
In Reply to: GWINN, MADDOX, HIGGINS, HANDBACKS by Nancie O'Sullivan of 767

Nancie, I have traced back to Baysden Gwinn. I am a descendant of his through his son John (1795-1852). Is the James B. Gwinn you listed the son of Baysden with a birthdate of about 1792? I would love any info that you have. Please e-mail me at rayboii@prodigy.net.
Thanks!
Melanie