Matthias Young
and
Anna Margaretta Fey


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The updating of the numbering system used on this page has been completed. Generation 28 is my own;
27 is that of my parents; 29 is that of my children, etc.  --   John M. Gwin, May 2009

For Courtney, Jeremy, Charity, Lauren, and Sarah

PLEASE NOTE: Clearly much work went into the original researching of this data, and for that I am very grateful! My former sister-in-law, Vonda Kay Sigmon [Mitchell] Gwin, told me that her brother, Robert Sigmon (RESigmon@fuse.net), did some of the original research, and it was she who gave my mother, Dorothy Lee Keeney Gwin, a copy of his book. When mother died in 2005, I inherited this copy.

The book's first page does indeed list as co-authors "Kenneth Cavender, who 'dug up' most of the enclosed names and dates" and "Robert Sigmon, who dug up some names and performed all manual chores," and also states, "Made for Vonda Mitchell, January 1977, so she would know her roots--Love, Bob Sigmon".

When I decided to transcribe Bob's material to this page, however, I saw that the format of the original only used varying degrees of indentation to distinguish generations; no numbers or other characters were used. To facilitate reading, then, I have here attempted to continue using those indentations but adding numbers as well, the pre-decimal number indicating the generation, the post-decimal number indicating the birth order within the family.

In at least one place, I was not able to read the indentations correctly, those indentations seeming to vary from one page to another, making it nearly impossible to interpret to which generation a given entry might belong. I attempted but failed to contact Vonda's brother to correct my error(s). For years, then, I caused those parts in question to flash on and off as a caution to the reader.  However, on 5 Mar 2009 I received an email from Cousin Jackie Sue Young who shared the lot of data listed below in this green; it helped to clarify those indentation problems in the area of that flashing information, especially since it highlighted for me and seemed to confirm a comment received earlier from Cousin Olive Basham that there were NINETEEN children of Harvey Hudson Hamilton Young and Olive Mae Buckley.

Other contributors include Cousins Mae Van Dinter Norma Smith Frank, Vicki Hess, Beckie (last name unk.), Mary (last name unk.), Beverly Goding, Eileen Dahmen, and John Robert Corey, as listed below.

Cousin Tom Young contacted me in Jun 2007 and has contributed more material, also listed below. His own excellent page is online at: http://www.tomyoung.us/html/ancestors.html.

Cousin Barbara Emerson Sharp checked in in June 2009, joining Jackie Sue Young as a descendant of 22.00--Conrad Young. Her contributions are found in the gold box below as expanded by my additions of pertinent census data. Click here for an interesting relationship chart for Barbara and Jackie Sue Young!

In addition, I own and have read and highly recommend to all a very readable, most enjoyable, and very well documented 94-page book, John Young: Lieutenant at Elk by Orton Jones, Mountain State Press, Charleston, WV, 1994 (ISBN: 0-941092-31-3).

Some of the entries in red below are to indicate the above-named contributors.

In early 2009, I decided to add twenty to the numbers of the generations. For example, my own generation, number 8, became 28. I hope that in so doing I have allowed for the future expansion of the genealogy and not confused the readers.


An Outline of the Reported and/or Known Family



21.00--Methias/Mathias Young, b. 1711 in Palatiante, Germany; d. 19 Jul 1749 in Lancaster, PA; m. Anna Margaretta Fey (b. 11 Jan 1712 in Germany; [Tom Young says she is the d/o Conrad Fey {b. 1686 in Germany; d. unk.; m. unk.}]; d. 14 May 1784); [Tom Young concurs with Mae Van Dinter (below) that these are Conrad Mathue Young's parents];

22.00--Conrad Mathue Young, b. 1732 in Germany; bd. in Wood Co., now Jackson Co., WV;

m1. Anna Margreta Franciscas (b. in Germany; d. by drowning); 2 children;

m2. [Tom Young says m2. in 1784 and adds that her name is Elizabeth Hayes] to Margret Hayes (b. in Nicholas Co, WV; killed by lightning); 3 children;

m3. Elizabeth Wood (b. in Wood Co., WV); 3 children; total of 8 children
From:  "Mae Van Dinter" k e n n e d y t m at m s n dot c o m
Date:  Thu, 18 Nov 2004
To: John M. Gwin <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: The Jung Family of Elk River WV

Conrad Jung was born in Pennsylvania to newly arrived Mathias Jung and his wife Anna Margaretta Fey 1732.  Mathias was one of the founding fathers of Lancaster PA, and he died young at the age of 38 in the year 1749.  Conrad was the oldest of several children and he was married to Anna Margaretta Franciscus in the year 1755.  They had one son named John, later to be known as Capt John Young of Elk River near Charleston WV.  Conrad's wife Anna Margaretta was struck and killed by lightning when John was 4.  Conrad left Pennsylvania for the Shenandoah Valley with his son.  Conrad married again and that wife was drowned in either the flooded Shenandoah or Potomac River.  They had 4 children in addition to John.  The family then went to Nicholas Co., VA, and Conrad married again to Elizabeth Wood.  They had 2 sons William, b. 1785 and my own ancestor, George E. Young, b. 1788. William married May Lilly and George married Eudoshia Huddleston of Quaker background.  Two books of these families are John Young, Lieutenant at Elk and every Roane (Rhone Germany yes?) Co. book you can find.  The towns to visit are Clendenin, WV, and Elkview, WV, and each have very good family history centers. The websites cannot keep up with all the histories you'll find by searching elsewhere. William Young's death is documented in WV that he died on Elk Two Mile, and his parents were Conrad and Elizabeth Young. He was the last of their children to die and died in Kanawha Co., WV. His brother, George, died about 1857.  This was Indian Country and some were Indian fighters, especially, Conrad and his two oldest sons, John and Charles. A fascinating history. Many old gravesites are along the Elk River through Kanawha and Roane Counties. The Moravian church at Lancaster, PA, has some history on Conrad and his family from Germany in the early 1700's.


23.01--a son, b. to Conrad and Anna; d. in infancy

23.02--John Young, [reported here as "Capt."; however, Norma Smith-Frank reports that Young's own 6-page testimony in the National Archives states that he was enlisted, not an officer, having been field-promoted to Lieutenant one time, temporarily], b. Aug 1758 to Conrad and Anna; d. 16 May 1850; m. 20 May 1789 to Mary Keziah Tackett Townsend (b. unk.; d/o Lewis and Mary Tackett; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m1. to Mr. Townsend; widowed); at least 2 ch.
[
John Gwin Note:
I own and have read and highly recommend to all a most enjoyable and very well documented 94-page book, John Young: Lieutenant at Elk by Orton Jones, Mountain State Press, Charleston, WV, 1994 (ISBN: 0-941092-31-3). Jones concludes his preface:

 "Before you embark on your research, though, I invite you to sit back, relax, and enjoy this book. It is not a dry research tome, but a celebration. I hope you like it."

I liked it very much, Lt. Col. Jones--thanks for sharing all the fun with us!  :-)]


24.00--Mary "Polly" Young m. Richard "Dick" Ashley

25.00--Nancy Ashley m. James Greathouse

26.00--Laura Caroline Greathouse (the widow McIntire) m2. Joseph Nicholson

27.00--Virginia Daneal Nicholson m. Thomas Jefferson Kearns

28.00--Laura Virginia Kearns m. Charles Ernest Roach

29.00--Mary Virginia Roach m. Norman Smith

30.00--Norma Smith; m. Mr. Frank



[John M. Gwin Note:  These two dual cousins (third cousins and half-fifth cousins, as the chart below shows--i.e., if I have recorded all this data correctly)
Jackie Sue Young and Barbara Emerson Sharp have sent in their respective lines. Barbara's is second below in the gold box; Jackie's is third below in the pink, both descending from 22.00--Conrad Young through John Bird Young and Margaret Young. Thank you for sharing with us, Cousins!]

Chart showing some of the dual relationships of descendants of John Bird Young and Margaret Young
John Bird Young's Line
Relationship
Margaret Young's Line
22.00--Conrad Mathew Young m1. Anna Margreta Francescas
Parents
22.00--Conrad Mathew Young m2. Margaret Hayes
23.05--Charles Francis Young m. Sarah Morris Half-siblings
23.02--John Young m. Mary Keziah Tackett Townsend
24.01--John Bird Young m. 24.00--Margaret Young Parents and Half-first cousins
24.00--Margaret Young m. 24.01--John Bird Young
25.00--children of John and Margaret
Siblings and Half-second cousins 25.00--children of John and Margaret
26.00--grandchildren of John and Margaret First cousins and Half-third cousins 26.00--grandchildren of John and Margaret
27.00--g-grandchildren of John and Margaret Second cousins and Half-fourth cousins 27.00--g-grandchildren of John and Margaret
28.00--gg-grandchildren of John and Margaret (e.g., Jackie Sue Young)
Third cousins and Half-fifth cousins 28.00--gg-grandchildren of John and Margaret (e.g., Barbara Emerson Sharp)
29.00--ggg-grandchildren of John and Margaret Fourth cousins and Half-sixth cousins 29.00--ggg-grandchildren of John and Margaret
30.00--gggg-grandchildren of John and Margaret Fifth cousins and Half-seventh cousins 30.00--gggg-grandchildren of John and Margaret

24.00--Margaret Young, b. ca. 1795-96 [listed as Margaret, age 54, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Kanawha Co., VA]; [listed as Margaret, age 65, in the 14 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA]; d. unk., but aft. 1860 census and prob. bef. 1870 census; bd. unk.; m. John Bird Young (b. ca. 1797-98 [listed as John B., age 53, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Kanawha Co., VA]; [listed as John B., age 62, in the 14 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA]; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least 5 ch.

25.01--Lucinda Young, b. ca. 1818 in Kanawha Co., VA; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. 17 Oct 1836 in Kanawha Co., VA, to Archibald Price (b. ca. 1815 in VA; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

25.02--Harriet Young, b. Nov 1819 in Kanawha Co., VA; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. 23 Aug 1839 in Kanawha Co., VA, to Samuel Matheny (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least 2 ch.

26.01--William Matheny, b. ca. 1841
[listed as William Matheny, age 9, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Kanawha Co., VA, living in the home of his grandparents, John B. and Margaret Young]; [listed as William, age 17, in the 14 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA, living in the home of his grandparents, John B. and Margaret Young]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.02--Sarah A. Matheny, b. ca. 1843 [listed as Sarah A. Matheny, age 7, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Kanawha Co., VA, living in the home of his grandparents, John B. and Margaret Young]; [not listed in the home of her grandparents in the 14 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA, and assumed deceased or married and living elsewhere]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
25.03--James Stroters Young, b. Aug 1822 in Kanawha Co., VA [listed as James S., age 27, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Kanawha Co., VA]; [not listed as living at home in the 14 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA, and assumed living elsewhere]; d. 1867; bd. unk.; m. 8 Oct 1850 in Kanawha Co., VA., to Mary Elizabeth Griffith (b. 17 Nov 1831; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

25.04--John Jacob "John Jake"Armstrong Young, b. Jul 1825 in VA [listed as Jacob A, age 24, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Kanawha Co., VA]; [not listed as living at home in the 14 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA, and assumed living elsewhere]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. 17 Oct 1850 in Kanawha Co., VA, to Julia Mary "Mae" Geary (b. 1831 in Kanawha Co., VA; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

25.05--Harvey Humphrey Young, b. ca. 1834 in Mill Creek, Kanawha Co., VA [listed as Harvy, age 16, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Kanawha Co., VA]; [listed as Harvey, age 26, in the 14 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA]; d. 1917 in Kanawha Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. 29 Dec 1869 in Kanawha Co., WV, to Ann/Nancy 'Annie' Eliza Ferrell (b. 4 Apr 1854 in Kanawha Co., VA; d. bet. 1887-1910 in Kanawha Co., WV); at least 8 ch.

26.01--Staunton William Young, b. 5 Dec 1871 in Elk Twp., Kanawha Co., WV; d. 11 Feb 1942 in McMillan Hospital, Charleston, Kanawha Co., WV, (per Cert. of Death #1693 signed by Dr. McClure); m. 2 Aug 1896 in Kanawha Co., WV, by H. C. Howard [according to Kanawha Co. Marriage Record per Charlotte Thurston] to Lillie/Lilly Belle Copen (b. Oct 1875 in Malden Dist., Kanawha Co., WV; d. 4 Oct 1926 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV [recorded in the Kanawha Co. Register of Deaths, Bk. 2, p. 3, per Charlotte Thurston]; bd. unk.); at least 10 ch.

27.01--Ruby Jewel Young, b. 11 Sep 1914 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV, delivered by Dr. McClure; d. 16 Apr 1979, Fairfax Co., VA; bd. unk.; m. 1 Oct 1932 in Charleston, Kanawha Co., WV, by Rev. Earl G. Hissom, Kanawha Co. Book 11/169 [per Charlotte Thurston] to Ernest Orlando Emerson (b. 11 Sep 1911 in Alexandria, VA; d. 28 Aug 1997 in Burke, Fairfax Co., VA; bd. unk.) at least three ch.

28.01--Living Emerson , b. 11 Jan 1934 in St. Francis Hospital, Charleston, Kanawha Co., WV; m. unk.; unk. ch.

28.02--Living Emerson, b. 10 Apr 1938 in Charleston, Kanawha Co., WV; m. unk.; unk. ch.

28.03--Living Emerson, b. 30 Aug 1951 in Alexandria Hospital, Alexandria, VA; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.02--Wesley Harvey Young, b. 9 Jan 1897 in Villa, Kanawha Co., WV; d. 18 Nov 1979 in Melbourne, FL; m. Jul 1917 to Mary Leftwich (b. 18 Mar 1897 in WV; d. 2 Aug 1949 in Coal Fork, Kanawha Co., WV; 6 ch.
 
28.01--Walter Ross Young, b. 19 May 1918 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV; d. 19 Oct 1996 in Charleston, Kanawha Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
28.02--Ralph Young, b. 13 Nov 1919 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV; d. 7 Oct 1920 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV; m. unk.; unk. ch.

28.03--Janice Young, b. 23 Mar 1921; d. 11 Mar 2001 in FL; m. 27 Nov 1943 to Clifford Kauff (b. 11 Mar 1910; d. 8 Jul 1999; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

28.04--Eva Young, b. 16 Jun 1923 in WV; d. 18 Mar 2002 in FL; m. 26 Jul 1947 to Ernest C. Dean (b. 10 Mar 1921; d. May 1996 in FL; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

28.05--Marian Ann Young, b. 5 May 1926 in Snow Hill, Kanawha Co., WV; d. 26 Sep 2006 in Red Bluff, CA; m. 13 Jun 1945 to Living Petersen (b. ca. 1923); unk. ch.

28.06--Living Young, 1 Jan 1931 in Coal Fork, Kanawha Co., WV; m. unk.; unk. ch.
27.03--William Cecil Young, b. 6 Nov 1900 in WV; d. 4 Sep 1964 in Kanawha Co., WV; b.d unk.; m. ca. 1922 to Alberta "Bertie" Hysell (b. 1901; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

28.01--Jane Elizabeth Young, b. 20 Jul 1923; d. 4 Dec 2003; bd. unk.; m. William Costello (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
28.02--Norma Lee Young, b. 1927 in Kanawha Co., WV; d. 17 Sep 2005 in Takoma Park, Montgomery Co., MD; bd. unk.; m. Louis Joseph deSabla, Sr. (b. 4 Jan 1922; d. 18 Apr 2000; bd. unk.); unk. ch.
27.04--Mary Belle Young, b. 14 Sep 1902 in Eagle, Kanawha Co., WV; d. 7 May 1980 in Kanawha Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. 15 Nov 1920 to Charles Edward Blankenship (b. 27 May 1901; d. 31 Jul 1970 in Cheshire, Meigs Co., OH; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

27.05--Wollie Young, twin, b. 23 Nov 1904 in Montgomery, WV; d. 29 Apr 1984 in Youngstown, Mahoning Co., OH; bd. unk.; m. 16 May 1928 to Rhoda Irene Norvell (b. 16 Aug 1904 in WV; d. 7 Nov 1989 in Youngstown, Mahoning Co., OH; bd. unk.); at least 6 ch.

28.01--Lillie Young, b. 28 Jan 1928 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m1. to Lucky Silman (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.; m2. to Walter Ray Dudley (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

28.02--Roy Andrew Young, b. 16 Aug 1929 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV; d. Mar 2003 in Seattle, WA; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

28.03--Billie Jean Young, b. 6 Jan 1932 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV; d. 2005; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

28.04--Living Young, b. 8 Mar 1934 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV; m. unk.; unk. ch.

28.05--Living Young, b. 8 Oct 1936 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV; m. unk.; unk. ch.

28.06--Living Young, b. 5 Jan 1939; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.06--Wallace Young, twin, b. 23 Nov 1904 in Montgomery, WV; d. 14 May 1906; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.07--Staunton Calvert Young, b. 19 Oct 1906 in WV; d. 2 Jan 1984 in Kanawha Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.08--Hayes/Hayse Young, b. 11 Nov 1909; d. 11 Mar 1975 in Charleston, Kanawha Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.09--Orville/Orvel Young, b. 6 Mar 1911; d. 11 Oct 1913; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.10--James Young, b. 31 Jan 1917 in Kanawha Co., WV; d. Oct 1986 in Charleston or Malden, Kanawha Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. Vada Norvell (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

26.02--Cora A. Young, b. 7 Aug 1873 in WV; d. aft. 1944 in WV; bd. unk. m. ca. 1896 to Walter J. Walton (b. 9 Mar 1874; d. 31 Dec 1936 in WV; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

26.03--Hoy O. Young, b. 20 Jul 1877; d. Feb 1971 in Scott Depot, Putnam Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. Florence Allman (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

27.01--William Young, b. ca. 1900; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.04--Esther Young, b. ca. 1878 in Kanawha Co., WV; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. William (Bill) Countz (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

26.05--Coy A. Young, b. ca. 1881 in WV [date is based on the censuses of 1900, 1910, 1920]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.06--Harvey Hudson Hamilton Young, b. 18 Feb 1883 in WV; d. Oct 1975 in Kanawha Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. Olive Mae Buckley (b. 1892 in WV; d. 1960 in Handley, WV; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

27.01--Nancy Jane Young, b. 15 Jan 1912 in WV; d. 1 May 1923 in Ripley, Jackson Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.02--Harvey Samuel Young, b. 24 May 1913 in WV; d. 9 Jun 1930 in Cabin Creek Dist., Kanawha Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.07--James Corbett Young, b. 20 Feb 1886; d. 22 Jun 1951; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.08--Chilton 'Harvey' Young, b. 13 May 1887 in Kanawha Co., WVd. 3 Apr 1974 in Indian River Co., FL; bd. unk.; m. Lucy Skiles (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

25.06--Sarah Ann Young, b. ca. 1830-32 in VA [listed as Sarah A, age 18, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Kanawha Co., VA]; [not listed as living at home in the 14 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA, and assumed living elsewhere]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. 21 Nov 1858 in Kanawha Co., VA, to Franklin Baxter (b. 1827 in Cooper's Creek, Kanawha Co., VA; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

25.07--Nancy Young, b. ca. 1834 (1829?) in VA [listed as Nancy, age 16, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Kanawha Co., VA]; [listed as Nancy, age 23, in the 14 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA]; d. 18 Aug 1923; bd. unk.; m. 1868 to William Ranson (b. ca. 1828; d. unk.; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

 


23.03--a daughter, b. to Conrad and Margret; d. unk.; m. unk.

23.04--another daughter, b. to Conrad and Margret; d. ; m.

23.05--Charles Francis Young, b. to Conrad and Margret; d. ; m. 29 Mar 1773 to Sarah Morris (b.; d.1842; d/o Henry Morris); 9 children

24.01--John B. Young, b.1795; d. 1880; m. Margaret Young (b. 1799; d. 2 Sep 1864); 7 children
25.01--James Stroters Young, b. Aug 1822; d. 1867; m. Mary Elizabeth Griffith (b. 17 Nov 1831, d/o William Griffith and Mahala King); 7 children
26.01--Jasper Young, b. 14 Nov 1851; m. J. Henrietta A. King (b. 16 Oct 1884 [sic!])
26.02--Minnie Young; m. William S. Brawley
26.03--Laura Young; m. J. H. Belcher
26.04--Cora M. Young; m. J. R. Snyder
26.05--Parus J. Young, b. 26 May 1860; m. May Boyd (b. 1867; d. 1900); no children
26.06--B. G. Young
26.07--Perry S. Young, b. 1867; m. 5 Mar 1893 to Annie Seldan (b. 1868); 5 children
27.01--Otho Baron Young;
27.02--Iona G. Young;
27.03--James G. Young
27.04--Mary E. Young
27.05--William Dana Young (they lived at Clendenin)
25.02--Jakop "John Jake" Armstrong Young, b.; d.; m. Julia M. Gary
26.01--Jasephan Young, b. ; m. Thomas Cummans
25.03--Lucinda Young m. Archie Price

25.04--Harriet Young m. Sam Mathaney

25.05--Nancy W. Young, b. 1829; d. 18 Aug 1923; m. 1868 to William Ranson

25.06--Harvey H. Young, b. 1831; d. 1917, bd. Skiles Cem., Walnut Gap; m. Nancy Ann Ferrel; 8 children;

25.02--Jakop "John Jake" Armstrong Young, b.; d.; m. Julia M. Gary
26.01--Jasephan Young, b. ; m. Thomas Cummans

25.03--Lucinda Young m. Archie Price



25.04--Harriet Young m. Sam Mathaney



25.05--Nancy W. Young, b. 1829; d. 18 Aug 1923; m. 1868 to William Ranson



25.06--Harvey H. Young, b. 1831; d. 1917, bd. Skiles Cem., Walnut Gap; m. Nancy Ann Ferrel; 8 children;

26.01--Chilton Young, b. ; d.3 Apr 1974; m. Lucy Skiles



26.02--Hoy Young; m. Florence Allman



26.03--Staunton Young; m. Lilly Copen


26.04--Harvey Hudson Hamilton Young, b. 18 Feb 1883; m. Olive Mae Buckley (b. 1892; d. 1960, Handley, WV); 19! ch.
Name

1930 U.S. Fed. Census

about Harvey H. Young

Home in 1930: Cabin Creek, Kanawha, WV
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Birthplace: West Virginia
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Olive M
Household Members:
Name Age
Harvey H Young 47
Olive M Young 37
Nancy J Young 18
Harvey S Young 16
Maury W Young 15
Jasper H Young 12
Ruth A Young 11
Clarance A Young 9
Doras L Young 6
Oliver M Young 4
Lola J Young 2
Hay M Young 1

Name:

1920 U.S. Fed. Census

about Harvey Young

Home in 1920: Cabin Creek, Kanawha, WV
Age: 36 years 
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Birthplace: West Virginia
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Olive
Father's Birth Place: West Virginia
Mother's Birth Place: West Virginia
Household Members:
Name Age
Harvey Young 36
Olive Young 27
Cara Young 10
Nanna Young 8
Harvey Young 6
Mira Young 4
Jasper Young 2
Ruth Young 1

[John M. Gwin Note: The nineteen reported children of Harvey H. H. and Olive Mae (Buckley) Young have come to us in three separate reports; one from the research of Cousin Bob Sigmon, one from the memory of Jackie Sue Young, and one from the 1920 and 1930 census documents. The following chart is an attempt to list the three side by side to get a clearer picture of this family.]
Gwin Transcription of Bob Sigmon's Record
Gwin Transcription of Jackie Sue Young's Record
Census Records
John M. Gwin's Comments




27.01--Cora Young; m. Rev. Simon L. Jones; 1 ch.

28.01--Marvin Lee Jones, b.
29.01--Sandra Kay Jones; m. Theodore "Franklin" Lanham

30.01--Roderick Armstrong Lanham
28.02--Ralph Dale Jones, b.

28.03--Janet Mae Jones, b. unk.; m. Mr. Robinson

28.04--Margaret Ann Jones, b.; m. Mr. Galt;

28.05--Richard Amon Jones, b.

28.06--Mary Elizabeth Jones, b.; m. Mr. Wheller

28.07--Eloise Sue Jones, b.   ; m. Mr. Kight
My Aunt Cora Young Jones was the eldest of Harvey and Olive Mae's children.  She was married to Simon Jones.  Their children were:
Marvin Lee; Ralph; Janette; Samona; Francis; Mary; Shirlely; Sue; Richard.  I may have left someone out, but some of us knew each other as children and some of the others were older than I.

27.01--Cora Young; m. Simon Jones;

28.01--Marvin Lee Jones, b.

28.02--
Ralph Jones, b.

28
.03--Janette Jones, b.

28
.04--Samona Jones, b.

28
.05--Francis Jones, b.

28
.06--Mary Jones, b.

28
.07--Shirley Jones, b.

28
.08--Sue Jones, b.

28
.09--Richard Jones, b.


OK, in the 12 Jan 1920 census of Cabin Creek Magesterial District, Kanawha Co., WV, (see Ancestry.com transcription above) the family members are listed as follows:

Harvey.....................36....head
Olive........................27....wife
Cara...........10....(Cora, firstborn.)
Nanna..........8...(This is Nancy, 2nd-born)
Harvey........6...(Harvey, 3rd-born)
Mira.............4...(Maury, 4th-born)
Jasper..........2...(Jasper , 5th-born)
Ruth.............1...(Ruth, 6th-born)




In the 14 Apr 1930 census of this same district, they appear like this:

Harvey H...................47...
Olive M......................37...
Nancy J.........18...#2
Harvey S
.......16...#3
Maury W.
.....15...#4
Jasper H.
......12...#5
Ruth A.
..........11...#6
Clarance A.
....9...#7
Doras L.
..........6...#8
Oliver M.
........4...#9
Lola J.
.............2...#10
Hoy M.
............1...#11



It is very clear that all these records are talking of the same family. As we compare Bob's and Jackie's accounts side by side, each gives clarification of the ambiguities of the other.

For example, Bob Sigmond does not reveal the last names of the children, leaving it to the reader to figure out from the parents' last names, etc.

I had thus assumed that Ralph Dale's last name was Lanham, him being the second child of Sandra Kay and Franklin Lanham. But seeing Jackie Sue Young's list of the children of Cora and Simon Jones beside Bob's list suddenly made me realize that Ralph, Janey, Margaret, Richard, Mary, and Eloise were Joneses, not Lanhams, and belonged in generation 28, not 30!

Ralph and Ralph must be the same person, and Bob's list tells us his middle name, Dale.
Janet Mae and Janette must be the same person.
Richard Amon and Richard must be the same person.
Eloise Sue and Sue must be the same person.
And Mary Elizabeth and Mary must be the same.

That leaves us with Bob's Margaret Ann and Jackie's Samona and Francis unaccounted for.

Perhaps looking for this family in the census records will throw additional light onto the mystery.

From Bob's and Jackie's reports, we had no idea as to the correct birth order of generation 27 with the exceptions of Cora and Zada who are first and last, respectively.

So we looked up the Harvey H. Young family in the census records for 1920 and 1930 and got a fairly decent picture of the birth order through  son Hoy, the eleventh born.

But for the 12-born through the 18th-born children, there is no clue so far; therefore, I have arbitrarily assigned each of the remaining seven children to one of those as shown below.



27.02--Nancy Young, b. ca. 1912; m. Rev. Romie Canterberry; 7 children


28.01--Doris Virginia Canterberry; m. Mr. Hunter
28.02--Joyce Canterberry; m. Mr. Cole
28.03--Connie Canterberry; m. Mr. Pauley
28.04--Frankie Canterberry
28.05--Romie Canterberry
28.06--Frederick Canterberry
28.07--Olive Canterberry; m. Mr. Whirkle
Nancy Young Canterberry - I did not know all of her family as well as some.  Nancy was married to Roamy Canterberry.

27.02--Nancy Young, b. ca. 1912; d. unk.; m. Roamy Canterberry;
1920: Nanna......8...(Nancy, 2nd-born)

1930:
Nancy J...18...#2



27.03--
Harvey Samuel Young
Uncle Harvey Young - was killed in a slate fall in the mines when he was 17.

27.03--Harvey Young
, b. unk.; d. unk. but was killed in a slate fall in the mines when he was 17; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

1920: Harvey........6...(Harvey, 3rd-born)
1930...Harvey S..16...#3


27.04--
Maury Wilson Young

27.04--Maury Young, b. unk.; d. unk.; m. Reba (nee unk.);

1920: Mira..............4...(Maury, 4th-born)
1930Maury W. 15...#4


My name is Jackie Sue Young.  I am the granddaughter of Harvey H. Young and Olive Mae Young.  My father was Jasper Harrison Young, born 9/11/1917.  My mother was Alvalyon Delores (Tucker) Young, born 05/15/1923.  My mother died in 1982, my father died two years ago.  I grew up with a lot of cousins.  Many cousins I have never met.     My siblings: Alvalyon Lorain Mae (Sally) Young Greathouse; married to Kenneth Greathouse; children Norville Eric Greathouse and Todd Stephen Greathouse.    Carol Ann Young Saunders Talbert; married to Jack Talbert; children Sheila Delene Saunders Stevens; Angela Nicole Saunders; (Twin brother to Angela - Darrin Jeffrey Saunders died at age 13); Nichole Beth Saunders Canterberry.     Roger Neal Young - married to Mary Young; children; Sarah Elizabeth; Andrew and Beau.

27.05--
Jasper Harrison Young, b. 11 Sep 1917; d. ca. 2007; bd. unk.; m. Alvalyon Delores Tucker (b. 15 May 1923; d. 1982; bd. unk.); 4 ch.

28.01--Jackie Sue Young, [PRIVATE]

28.02--Alvalyon Lorain Mae (Sally) Young; m. Kenneth Greathouse; 2 ch., [PRIVATE]

29.01--Norville Eric Greathouse, [PRIVATE]
29.02--Todd Stephen Greathouse, [PRIVATE]

28.03--Carol Ann Young ; m1. Mr. Saunders ; m2. Jack Talbert; ch.,  [PRIVATE]

29.01--Sheila Delene Saunders; m. Mr. Stevens [PRIVATE]
29.02--Angela Nicole Saunders, (twin), b. unk.; d. unk.;  [PRIVATE]
29.03--Darrin Jeffrey Saunders, (twin), b. unk.; d. age 13;  [PRIVATE]
29.04--Nichole Beth Saunders; m. Mr. Canterberry [PRIVATE]

28.04--Roger Neal Young; m. Mary (nee unk.); ch.;  [PRIVATE]

29.01--Sarah Elizabeth Young [PRIVATE]
29.02--Andrew Young [PRIVATE]
29.03--Beau Young [PRIVATE]

1920: Jasper.......2...(Jasper , 5th-born)
1930Jasper H.......12...#5









27.06--Ruth Young; m. Mr. Talbert; Aunt Peggy Young Talbert married to Okle Talbert; children:  Twins - Tommy and Judy; Larry, Jennings; Glenn; Gary; Jack Douglas; Harvey; Twins - Ruth Ann and Ray.  Again, I may have left some out but these are the cousins that I knew growing up.

27.07--Peggy Young; m. Okle (Okie?) Talbert; ch.: 

28.01--Tommy Talbert (twin), b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

28.02--Judy Talbert (twin)
, b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

28.03--Larry Talbert
, b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

28.04--Jennings Talbert
, b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

28.05--Glenn Talbert
, b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

28.06--Gary Talbert
, b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

28.07--Jack Douglas Talbert
, b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

28.08--Harvey Talbert
, b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

28.09--Ruth Ann Talbert (twin)
, b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

28.10--Ray Talbert (twin)
, b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.


1920: Ruth.............1...(Ruth, 6th-born)
1930Ruth A......11...#6
See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order.

27.07--Clarence Armain Young;

1930Clarance A.....9...#7 See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order.


27.08--
Doris L. Young; m. Mr. Westfall;




Aunt Doris Westfall

27.08--Doris L. Young; m. Mr. Westfall;
1930: Doras L...........6...#8 See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order.


27.09--
Oliver Milton Young; m. Dora Janet Craigo

28.00--Olive Selma Young; m. Mr. Basham
Uncle Melton Young

27.09--Melton Young
1930: Oliver M.........4...#9 See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order.

[JMGwin NOTE: On 2000-02-08 01:38:41, cousin Olive Selma Young Basham (ossbbataoldotcom) of Charleston, WV, wrote the following comment in my guestbook:
Comments: You've done great on the family tree of the Youngs. I am the daughter of Oliver Milton Young and Dora Janet Craigo. My father is 1 of 19 children of Harvey Hudson Hamilton Young and Olive Mae Buckley. I noticed you have a few blanks and inconsistencies concerning my entire family. I'll be glad to help any way I can. We're still working on our family tree, but your information has been vital, useful and GREATLY APPRECIATED.
Olive, thanks for your encouraging comments! I just need to reiterate that this is primarily my collection of the reports of others, of which yours is one; I have done little or no personal research here.]




27.10--Lola J. Young

1930: Lola J..............2...#10
This daughter is unnamed in both Bob's and Jackie's lists. But she does appear in the 1930 census, so this leaves two possibilities: (1) perhaps she died early, or (2) perhaps this is our June, currently listed as the 14th born. We should know more when the 1940 census is opened in 2010.

See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order.


27.11--Hoy Marlin
Young;

Uncle Hoy Young

27.13--Hoy Young
1930: Hoy M.............1...#11 See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order.

27.12--Constance Rebecca Young
28.03--Carol Ann Young; m. Mr. Saunders

28.04--Roger Keith Young



See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order.

27.13--
Mildred Aretta Young;



See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order.


27.14--June Young m. Mr. Hall;
Aunt June Young Hall - married to Lawrence Hall.  They had several children, though I cannot think of them now.  David Young is the son of June Young Hall.

27.14--June Young
, b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. Lawrence Hall; several ch.

28.01--David Young Hall


See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order.


27.15--Jenning Howatt
Young;
Uncle Jennings Young - died as a young child.

27.15--Jennings Young
, b. unk.; d. as a young child; bd. unk.; m. never; no ch.


See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order.


27.16--James Workman
Young;
Uncle Jimmy Young

27.16--Jimmy Young

See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order.


27.17--Patricia
Young; m. Mr. Rogers
Aunt Patricia Young Rogers - children that I remember:  Harvey, Tye

27.17--Patricia Young; m. Mr. Rogers

28.01--Harvey Rogers
28.02--Tye Rogers

See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order.

Here's a post from Ancestry.com on this family:

we are family

darlene (young) byrne   Posted: 31 Mar 2001 
hello i just wanted to learn more about our family. my mother is the daughter of H.H.H. Young and Olive Mae Buckley. i am not sure of the order she is maybe between the 10th to 19th child. i you have any information that will fill in the holes that i need please contact me. my mother's name is Patricia Gail Young Rogers. thank you Darlene


27.18--Clarabell Young; m. Mr. Greathouse;
Aunt Clara Belle Young Greathouse - married to William Greathouse; sons Randy and Billy.

27.18--Clara Belle Young; m. William Greathouse; 2 ch.

28.01--Randy Greathouse
28.01--Billy Greathouse

See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order.

27.19--
Ioda Young m. Mr. Fernett;
Aunt Zada Fernatt - married to Junior Fernatt.  Zada was the youngest of Harvey and Olive Mae's children.  I'm sorry to say that I don't know the names of her children.

27.19--Zada Young; m.
Junior Fernatt.  Zada was the youngest of Harvey and Olive Mae's children.  I'm sorry to say that I don't know the names of her children.

See my note for 27.01 CoraYoung, above, for my explanation regarding the birth order.


[
JMGwin NOTE:
In March 2009, Cousin Jackie Sue Young emailed me with even more data that has helped unravel--at least in my mind--all of this heretofore semi-confusing information on the now-understood-to-be NINETEEN children of Harvey and Olive Mae Young. Using Jackie's data, I have reorganized Bob Sigmon's report on this family and arranged it as I now believe he intended it to be understood. With the exceptions of Jackie's notes that Cora Young Jones was the oldest and Zada Young Fernatt was the youngest of the 19, the birth order was still unclear, however, until I found this family in both the 1920 and 1930 censuses, which gave us the birth order through the eleventh-born child. I arbitrarily selected the birth order numbers for the 12th through 18th children only for the temporary purpose of facility in reference. I have attempted to put Jackie's somewhat extensive (and most welcome!) information into my outline format in the chart above.  Her good email follows.]



From: Jackie Young
Date: March 5, 2009
To: <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: Young family

My name is Jackie Sue Young.  I am the granddaughter of Harvey H. Young and Olive Mae Young.  My father was Jasper Harrison Young, born 9/11/1917.  My mother was Alvalyon Delores (Tucker) Young, born 05/15/1923.  My mother died in 1982, my father died two years ago.  I grew up with a lot of cousins.  Many cousins I have never met. 
My siblings:
Alvalyon Lorain Mae (Sally) Young Greathouse; married to Kenneth Greathouse; children Norville Eric Greathouse and Todd Stephen Greathouse.
Carol Ann Young Saunders Talbert - Married to Jack Talbert; children Sheila Delene Saunders Stevens; Angela Nicole Saunders; (Twin brother to Angela - Darrin Jeffrey Saunders died at age 13); Nichole Beth Saunders Canterberry.
Roger Neal Young - married to Mary Young; children; Sarah Elizabeth; Andrew and Beau.
My Aunt Cora Young Jones was the eldest of Harvey and Olive Mae's children.  She was married to Simon Jones.  Their children were:
Marvin Lee; Ralph; Janette; Samona; Francis; Mary; Shirlely; Sue; Richard.  I may have left someone out, but some of us knew each other as children and some of the others were older than I.
Nancy Young Canterberry - I did not know all of her family as well as some.  Nancy was married to Roamy Canterberry. 
Aunt Peggy Young Talbert married to Okle Talbert; children:  Twins - Tommy and Judy; Larry, Jennings; Glenn; Gary; Jack Douglas; Harvey; Twins - Ruth Ann and Ray.  Again, I may have left some out but these are the cousins that I knew growing up.
Uncle Harvey Young - was killed in a slate fall in the mines when he was 17.
Uncle Jennings Young - died as a young child.
Aunt June Young Hall - married to Lawrence Hall.  They had several children, though I cannot think of them now.  David Young is the son of June Young Hall.
Aunt Patricia Young Rogers - children that I remember:  Harvey, Tye
Aunt Zada Fernatt - married to Junior Fernatt.  Zada was the youngest of Harvey and Olive Mae's children.  I'm sorry to say that I don't know the names of her children.
Auant Clara Belle Young Greathouse - married to William Greathouse; sons Randy and Billy.
Uncle Hoy Young
Uncle Jimmy Young
Uncle Melton Young
Aunt Doris Westfall
Uncle Maury Young, married to Reba.
There were other children who died as children, but I don't know their names.
I just wanted to share some of my information with you.  I hope it gives you some information that you don't have.



26.06--Coy Young (auto) [sic]
26.06--Cora A. Young; m. Walter Walton
26.07--James Corbett Young
26.08--Lester Young
25.07--Sarah Manda (Amanda?) Young; m. Frank Baxter
24.02--James A. Young, b.; d.; m.

24.03--Sarah Young, b. 1804; d. 1890; m1. 1825 to William Burdette (b. 1801; d. 7 May 1862); m2. to Edmond Price


24.04--Benjamin Strader Young, b.; d.; m. Lucinda Hoffman
25.01--Henrietta B. Young Chapman, b. 17 June 1850; m. 12 July 1867 to Sylvanus G. Chapman (b. 29 Feb 1854); 11 children; (and Frank Layman's granddaughter, Mary, <hjem@uti.com>, sends the following by way of addenda and correction to this line:
Silvanus G. CHAPMAN, b. 29 Feb 1844 in Putnam Co., WV;  d. 1885; served in Civil War, CSA,  Co. F, 30th Virginia Battalion; bd. in Chapman Cem., County Rd., East out of Linden on Flat Run Rd., Roane Co., WV; m. 10 Jul 1867 in Roane Co., WV, to Henrietta B. YOUNG (b. 17 Jun 1850 in Kanawha Co., VA, d/o Benjamin S. YOUNG and Lucinda V. HUFFMAN; d. 1925; also bd. in Chapman Cem.);
26.01--Mary Alice Young Chapman, b. 1868; d. ; m. Charles McMillan; unk. children; Mary A. CHAPMAN b. 9 Feb 1868 in Roane Co., WV;

26.02--Martha J. Young Chapman, b. 1869; d. ; m. W. Mac Samples; unk. childrenMartha J. CHAPMAN b. 12 Jun 1869 in Roane Co; m. 1 Jan 1893 in Roane Co., WV to William M. SAMPLES (b. 30 May 1866 in Kanawha Co., WV, s/o Robert SAMPLES and Mary Catherine PAULEY); 3 known children:

27.01--Doyle Marie SAMPLES b. 8 Jul 1893 in Smithfield Dist., Roane Co., WV;  m. Clyde Layman; (b. unk.; d. 1916; bd. unk.);  2 ch; oral tradition relates Clyde's death as accidental at either a pulp and paper factory in Richwood, WV, or an oil rig accident near Linden, WV;
28.01--Paul M. Layman, b. 1914

28.02--Frank Layman, b. 1916 (my--i.e., Mary's--grandfather)

29.01--(Mary's parent)--[PRIVATE]
30.01--Mary--[PRIVATE]
27.02--Chloe Adalaine SAMPLES b. 6 Jun 1896 in Linden, Roane  Co., WV;

27.03--Mina May SAMPLES b. 15 Jan 1898 in Linden, Roane Co., WV;

26.03--Benjamin F. Young Chapman, b. 1870; d. 20 Mar 1900; m. Mina Board; 1 child; Benjamin F. CHAPMAN  b. 28 Oct 1870;
27.01--Lena B.  Young Chapman, b. 11 Dec 1898
26.04--Fannie Ella  Young Chapman, b. 1872; d. ; m. Edward Goodwin;_ childrenFrances E. "Fannie" CHAPMAN b. 17 Apr 1872 in Roane Co., WV;

26.05--Carry Bell 
Young Chapman, b. 1874; d. ; m. Samuel Sarver; _ childrenCarrie B. CHAPMAN b. 25 Mar 1874;

26.06--William S. 
Young Chapman b. 1875; d. ; m. Rhoda Wright; _ childrenWilliam S. CHAPMAN b. 28 Feb 1875 in Roane Co., WV;

26.07--Lucy D. 
Young Chapman b. 1876; d. ; m. William Rishel; _ childrenLucy D. CHAPMAN b. 30 Sep 1876 in Roane Co., WV;

26.08--Lotta V.
Young Chapman, b. 1878; d. ; m. George Sarver;_ childrenLottie V. CHAPMAN b. 21 Apr 1878;

26.09--Henry Nelson 
Young Chapman, b. 1879; d. ; m. Jennie Simmons;_ childrenHenry Nelson CHAPMAN b. 29 Aug 1879;

26.10--John Gideon 
Young Chapman, b. 1881; d. ; m. Mary Simmons;_ childrenJohn G. CHAPMAN b. 10 Jun 1881 in Walton Dist., Roane Co., WV;

26.11--Henrietta Dottie 
Young Chapman b. 29 Dec 1882; d. ; m. O. Hutchinson;_ children;
24.05--Charles W. Young, b. 8 Sep 1809; d.; m.13 Sep 1832 to Elizabeth Given (b. 21 Aug 1813)12 children;
25.01--Margaret J. Young, b. 6 Aug 1833; d. 25 Mar 1866; m. to (b. ); children;

25.02--Elizabeth S. Young, b. 4 Dec 1835; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;


25.03--Matilda Young, b. 1 November 1837; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;


25.04--Samuel M. Young, b. 22 Dec 1839; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;


25.05--Archibald P. Young, b. 2 Jan 1842; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;


25.06--Marietta Young, b. 5 Feb 1844; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;


25.07--Harriet Ann Young, b. 25 Feb 1846; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;


25.08--Caroline Young, b. 9 Apr 1848; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;


25.09--Allen P. Young, b. 25 Apr 1850; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;


25.10--Emily F. Young, b. 6 Jul 1853; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;


25.11--Roxy S. Young, b. 28 Dec 1855; d. ; m. to (b. ); children;


25.12--Charles Edward Young, b. 31 Nov 1858; d. 1901, Mill Creek; m. to (b. ); children;
24.06--Elizabeth "Betty" Young, b.; d.; m.

24.07--Edine B. Young, b.; d.; m.


24.08--William Young, b.; d.; m.


24.09--Margret Young, b.; d.; m.
23.06--William Young, b. May 1785 to Conrad and Elizabeth; d. 15 Aug 1857; m. [Eilly Williams] (several people have written to say that they have his wife as May (or Mary) Lilly, which I now believe to be correct--click Eilly's link for my theory as to what happened); 3 children  
Sherry,
 
I have some information on Charles "Conrad" Young's father William Young. I went to a genealogical fair last fall. They had a book on Conrad Young. I also have birth, marriage, and death dates for him.
 
Birth: 17 May 1785
Marriage: 24 June 1806
Death: 15 Aug. 1857, Elk Two Mile, Kanawha Co. Va
 
For his wife, Mary Lilley, I do have a birth date: 1 May 1782 in Frederick Co, VA
 
Book on Conrad Young. ( May 10, 2002 WV Genealogical Fair).  Mentions William as John Young's brother and as a Captain.  William recruited John to be a spy.  John and his mother were captured by the Indians but later returned unharmed.
 
Vicki (Arthur) Hess
24.01--Charles Conrad Young, b. 2 Feb 1807 in VA (now WV) [listed as Charles, age 43, laborer, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Dist. 29, Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; [listed as Charles, age 52, in the 4 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Ct. Hs., Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; [listed as Charles C., age 52, in the 15 Jun 1870 census of Elk Twp., Kanawha Ct. Hs., Kanawha Co., WV]; [listed as Charles C., age 73 (sic), in the 21 Jun 1880 census of Hamilton Dist., Nicholas Co., WV, where he is "keeping a boarding house"]; d. Feb 1905, on Line Creek, Nicholas Co.; bd. near Hawk's Nest, WV, in Nicholas Co.--click here for Conrad's photo page; m1. 28 Apr 1832 to Margaret James (b. 24 Jun 1814 in VA [now WV] [listed as Margrete, age 36, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Dist. 29, Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; [listed as Margaret, age 46, in the 4 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Ct. Hs., Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; [listed as Margaret, age 55, in the 15 Jun 1870 census of Elk Twp., Kanawha Ct. Hs., Kanawha Co., WV]; d. 10 Apr 1873); m2. to America (nee unk., b. ca. 1847; [listed as America, wife, age 33, in the 21 Jun 1880 census of Hamilton Dist., Nicholas Co., WV]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; unk. ch.); 12 children . (A newly-discovered third cousin, Catherine, has e.mailed me with additional information.)
25.01--Marie Young, b. 13 Feb 1833 [listed as Mariah, age 17, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Dist. 29, Kanawha Co., VA (now WV); [listed as Maria Martin, age 27, in the 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. 24 Jun 1855 to Joseph T. Morton Martin ( b. ca.  [listed as Joseph P. Martin, age 26, in the 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; d. unk.; bd. unk.); living next door to Charles and Margaret in 1860; at least two ch.

26.01--Mary M. Martin, b. ca. 1856 [listed as Mary M., age 4, in the 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.02--Safrona Martin, b. ca. 1859 [listed as Safrona, age 1, in the 1860 census of Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.02--Jesse James Young, b. 5 Nov 1834 [listed as Jesse, age 15, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Dist. 29, Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; [listed as Jesse J., age 45, in the 21 Jun 1880 census of Hamilton Dist., Nicholas Co., WV, living two houses away from his father, Charles C. Young]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. Harriet "Hattie" D. Price (b. ca. 1838; [listed as Harriet, age 42, in the 21 Jun 1880 census of Hamilton Dist., Nicholas Co., WV]; [listed as Harriet D., mother, age 94 and widowed, in the 21 Apr 1930 census of Henry, Clay Co., WV, and living with William B. and Julia]); at least 7 ch.

26.01--Charles E. Young, b. ca. 1863 [listed as Charles E., age 17, in the 21 Jun 1880 census of Hamilton Dist., Nicholas Co., WV]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.02--William B. Young, b. Mar 1865 [listed as Wm. B., age 14, in the 21 Jun 1880 census of Hamilton Dist., Nicholas Co., WV]; [listed as William B., age 35, in the 21 Jun 1900 census of Summersville, Nicholas Co., WV]; [listed as William B., age 46, in the 21 Apr 1910 census of Buffalo Dist., Clay Co., WV]; [listed as William B., age 58, in the 12 Jan 1920 census of Henry, Clay Co., WV]; [listed as William B., age 65, general store merchant, in the 21 Apr 1930 census of Henry, Clay Co., WV]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. Julia (nee unk., b. Mar 1857 [listed as Julia, age 43, in the 21 Jun 1900 census of Summersville, Nicholas Co., WV]; [listed as Julia, age 53, in the 21 Apr 1910 census of Buffalo Dist., Clay Co., WV, who reports 3 of 3 ch. living 19 years into her 2nd marriage]; [listed as Julia, age 51 (sic!), in the 12 Jan 1920 census of Henry, Clay Co., WV]; [listed as Julia (mistranscribed by Ancestry.com as "Juan"), age 72, in the 21 Apr 1930 census of Henry, Clay Co., WV]; d. unk.; bd. unk.); 3 ch.

26.01--Daisy M. Young, b. Apr. 1892 in WV [listed as Daisy M., age 8, in the 21 Jun 1900 census of Summersville, Nicholas Co., WV]; [listed as Daisy M. (mistranscribed by Ancestry.com as "Darcy"), age 17, teacher, in the 21 Apr 1910 census of Buffalo Dist., Clay Co., WV]; [not listed as living at home in the 12 Jan 1920 census of Henry, Clay Co., WV, and assumed married and living elsewhere]; [listed as Daisy Barnett, daughter, age 38, in the 21 Apr 1930 census of Henry, Clay Co., WV, and living with William B. and Julia]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. G. L. Barnett (b. ca. 1893 [listed as G. L. Barnett, son-in-law, age 37, glass factory laborer, in the 21 Apr 1930 census of Henry, Clay Co., WV, and living with William B. and Julia]); two known ch.

27.01--Arlene Barnett, b. ca. 1916 in WV [listed as Arlene Barnett, granddaughter, age 14, in the 21 Apr 1930 census of Henry, Clay Co., WV, and living with William B. and Julia]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.02--Winogene Barnett, b. 1919 in WV [listed as Winogene Barnett, granddaughter, age 11, in the 21 Apr 1930 census of Henry, Clay Co., WV, and living with William B. and Julia]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.02--Sherman W. Young, b. May 1895 in WV [listed as Sherman W., age 5, in the 21 Jun 1900 census of Summersville, Nicholas Co., WV]; [listed as Sherman W., age 14, in the 21 Apr 1910 census of Buffalo Dist., Clay Co., WV]; [not listed as living at home in the 12 Jan 1920 census of Henry, Clay Co., WV, and assumed married and living elsewhere]; [listed as Sherman Young, son, age 35, state road truck driver, in the 21 Apr 1930 census of Henry, Clay Co., WV, and living with William B. and Julia]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.01--Shelton Young, b. ca. 1920 in WV [listed as Shelton Young, grandson, age 10, in the 21 Apr 1930 census of Henry, Clay Co., WV, and living with William B. and Julia]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

27.02--Doris J. Young, b. 1924 in WV [listed as Doris J. Young, granddaughter, age 6, in the 21 Apr 1930 census of Henry, Clay Co., WV, and living with William B. and Julia]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.03--Charles Clyde Young, b. Mar 1898 in WV [listed as Charles C., age 2, in the 21 Jun 1900 census of Summersville, Nicholas Co., WV]; [listed as Charles C., age 12, in the 21 Apr 1910 census of Buffalo Dist., Clay Co., WV]; [listed as Clyde, age 21, in the 12 Jan 1920 census of Henry, Clay Co., WV]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.03--James A. Young, b. ca. 1868 [listed as James A., age 12, in the 21 Jun 1880 census of Hamilton Dist., Nicholas Co., WV]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.04--Margaret (P?) Young, b. ca. 1871
[listed as Margaret (P?), age 9, in the 21 Jun 1880 census of Hamilton Dist., Nicholas Co., WV]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.05--Nannie B. Young, b. ca.
1875 [listed as Nannie B., age 5, in the 21 Jun 1880 census of Hamilton Dist., Nicholas Co., WV]; [listed as Betty Woods, sister, age 56 and widowed, in the 21 Apr 1930 census of Henry, Clay Co., WV, and living with William B. and Julia]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk. date/place Mr. Woods (b. unk.; d. bef. 1930; bd. unk.); unk. ch.

26.06--Sallie K. Young, b. ca. 1878
[listed as Sallie K., age 2, in the 21 Jun 1880 census of Hamilton Dist., Nicholas Co., WV]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

26.07--Scott Young, b. ca.
Feb. 1880 [listed as Scott, age 4mos., in the 21 Jun 1880 census of Hamilton Dist., Nicholas Co., WV]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.03-- Martha Young, b. 1836
[listed as Martha, age 8, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Dist. 29, Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; [listed as Martha, age 19, in the 4 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Ct. Hs., Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; d. ; m. 10 Sep 1863 to John R. Buckner (b. 1837)

25.04-- Rachel Young, b. 26 Jan 1839
[listed as Rachel, age 12, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Dist. 29, Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; [listed as Rachel, age 21, in the 4 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Ct. Hs., Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; d. ; m. 10 Sep 1863 to Jeremiah Meadows (b. 1829)
The following post was made at 7:57 PM on 4/26/98 by Beckie to the the WV Rootsweb page located at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvkanawh/query/apr98.html:
"I am looking for further information on Jeremiah MEADOWS/MEADOR born about 1829 in Bedford County, Virginia (marriage records) and Rachel YOUNG b. 1839 in Kanawha. They were married on 10 Sep 1863 in Kanawha. She was the daughter of Charles Conrad YOUNG and Margaret D JAMES. Known children are:

26.01--Burrell Meadows, b. 1866;

26.02--Nancy D. Meadows, b. 1868;


26.03--John L. Meadows, b. 1870;


26.04--Harvey U. Meadows, b. 1872;


26.05--Margaret Meadows, b. 1874;


26.06--Jeremiah Meadows, b. 1878;

25.05-- Mary Elizabeth Young, b. 31 Jun 1843 [listed as Mary, age 14, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Dist. 29, Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; [listed as Mary, age 23, in the 4 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Ct. Hs., Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; d. ; m. Joseph Woods, Sr.; click here for a photo of M.E.Y. and an email from its owner, third cousin Eileen Dahmen!
26.01--Joseph Wood, Jr., b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m.  Lillian Mabel Turner (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); 9 ch.

From: bgodingatverizondotnet
Date: September 11, 2008
To: JMcDGwin@zianet.com
Subject: Corrections to tree

Hi, John Corey is visiting and we are looking at the family line -- ours is off on the bottom. It has my grandmother listed as a #6 when she is not a sister but a daughter of Joe Wood Jr. -- that throws off all the ones below.
 
Joseph Wood Jr., m:  Lillian Mabel Turner    9 children
 
1)  Orion Joseph Wood     b 8-25-1897   d. 1-21-1914
2) Mabel Lillian Wood       b 8-28-1902
3.) Adrian Clellan Wood     b.   2-14-1904
4.) Vernon Wood                 b 3-16-1905
5.) Mary Evelyn Wood         b.  5-26-1906
6.) Alice Besse Wood         b 8-16-1912
7.) Alta Jessie Wood            b 8-16-1912
8.) Ida Mae Wood                 b. 1-19-1915
9.) Albert Leonard Wood     b 5-5-1916

27.01--Orion Joseph Wood, b. 25 Aug 1897; d. 21 Jan 1914;

27.02--Mabel Lillian Wood, b. 28 Aug 1902 ; m1. Clement Edgar Farenkamm; m2. Olen Glade Carr;
27.01--Lillian Mabel Farenkamm; 1 year

27.02--Stanley Farenkamm; m1. Elaine Winifred Ward

28.01--Beverly Farenkamm; m. Ralph Joel Goding;
29.01--Glade Phillip Goding; m1. Dawn Hartman;
30.01--Krystle "K" Goding;
Glade m2. Marlyn Kragh;
30.02--Zoe Goding;
29.02--Wayne Stanley Goding; m. Cary Lee Goullette;

30.01--Natalia Rae Goding;
30.02--LaTara Ann Goding;
30.03--James Joel Goding;
30.04--Justin Wayne Goding;
Stanley Farenkamm m2. Ann Elizabeth Ebbert;
28.02--Joseph Glade Farenkamm; m. Phyliss Horn;
27.03--Adrian Clellan Wood, b. 14 Feb 1904;

27.04--Vernon Wood, b. 16 Mar 1905;

27.05--Mary Evelyn Wood, b.  26 May 1906;

27.06--Alice Bessie Wood, twin, b. 16 Aug 1912;

27.07--Alta Jessie Wood, twin, b. 16 Aug 1912;

27.08--Ida Mae Wood, b. 19 Jan 1915;

27.09--Albert Leonard Wood, b. 5 May 1916;
28.01--Eileen Wood, m. Mr. Dahmen

25.06--Frances "Fannie" Young, b. 12 Aug 1843 [listed as Fanny, age 6, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Dist. 29, Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; [listed as Frances, age 17, in the 4 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Ct. Hs., Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; d. ; m. 27 May 1869 to George Washington Stanley (b. 1844 or 45; [m1. to Margaret J. Estep]); 5 ch. (4 natural, 1 adopted); this picture taken 1905, the same year her father Conrad Young died, and has written on back "Maud 1905 - Mother and Dad Stanley"

[John M. Gwin Note: In September 1999 my 2nd cousin, 28.02--John R. Corey (grandson of 26.03--Mabel Stanley, below), wrote:

Cousin John,   George Stanley says ISAAC STANLEY is George Washington Stanley's father; he didn't know the grandmother or any more on that side; Charles Conrad Young is bd. at the bottom of the Hendrick Cem. next to Uncle George below Hawk's Nest, WV; he died in 1905 at age 98; Margaret James, his wife, is supposedly bd. in Oak Hill since her family didn't approve of Conrad; I haven't located her grave; keep in touch!     John Robert

--And since then, we sure enough have determined that not only was Isaac his father, but Harris, Pleasant, Thomas, and Thomas were the next four ancestors up the line!  Click his STANLEY link to see what we've learned about this family so far.]

[John M. Gwin NOTE:  Cousin Dan has GWS married twice as follows:   m1. 26 Dec 1865 to Margaret J. Estep; m2. after 1865 to Fanny Young.  From his obituary and oral history of their grandchildren, I know that GWS and Fannie Young were married 58 years, so if he were married twice, then he and MJE would've not been married very long.  I had never heard of the first wife until May 2002, but just after I read Dan's note, I asked my mother, the late Dot Gwin (27.03 below), if Grandpa Stanley had been married before he married Grandma Stanley, and she said yes, she'd heard that her life, but she couldn't remember the first wife's name; according to his obituary that Terry sent me, GW and Fanny had 17 grandkids when he died in 1927; Mamie and Mack had 7, and since Maude and George had none, Harry and Mabel must've had ten between them; indeed, Mother (Dot Gwin) told me Mabel had six children and Harry had four.]

26.01--Maude Ella Stanley, b. 7 Apr 1870 [listed as Mardellia Stanley, age 10, in 1880 census--Maude Ella is correct, however; I, John M. Gwin, knew "Aunt Maude" all my life and served as pallbearer at her funeral and burial]; d. 2 Sep 1965; bd. on Campbell's Creek in Tad, WV, on the hill behind where the family homeplace was; m. never; taught school on Campbell's Creek; click here for her photo;

26.02--Harry Stanley, b. ca. 1872 [listed as Harry Stanley, age 8, in 1880 census]; d. in a mining accident; m. Martilia (nee unk.); 4 ch.

27.01--George L. Stanley; lived at 10/13th St., Chesapeake, WV--304-949-4132;
27.02--Stanley, b. unk.; d. unk. ; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
27.03--Stanley, b. unk.; d. unk. ; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
27.04--Stanley, b. unk.; d. unk. ; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
26.03--Mabel Stanley, b. ca. 1878 [listed as Mabel, age 2, in 1880 census]; d. at over age 100; m. Thomas Albert Grafton, Sr. (); at least 3 ch.
27.01--Eugenia "Jean" Grafton; m. Ted Thompson
28.01--Charles Edward Thompson; m. ;
28.02--Mark Thompson;
28.03-- Thompson;
27.02--Elizabeth Ann Grafton; m. Mr. Hughes;

27.03--Ted Grafton, b. ; d. of strepthroat after swimming the Kanawha at mouth of Elk R.; m. never;

27.04--Dolly Grafton; m. Guy Corey (b. 2 Sep 1914; d. 2005?); lives in Charleston, WV; 3 ch.

28.01--Bonnie Sue Corey, b. ca. 1945; m. Don (b. ca. 1945)

28.02--John Robert Corey, b. 1946?; lives in Pennsylvania
29.01--John Thomas Corey, b. unk.; lives in Arizona
30.01--Corey, b. unk.;
29.02--dtr. Corey
 
29.03--dtr. Corey
28.03--Richard "Rick" Corey, b. 1950?; m. unk



l-r:
John, Don and Bonnie Sue, Dolly, Mrs. Rick, Rick, in 2009
27.05--Thomas Albert "Tom" Grafton, III (b. unk.; d. 24 Apr 2004; bd. unk.);
28.01--Claudia Grafton; m. Mr. Livas; live in Wisconsin [PRIVATE]
28.02--Thomas "Tommy" Grafton; [PRIVATE]
28.03--Carolyn Grafton; [PRIVATE]
28.04--Merry Jo Grafton; [PRIVATE]
28.05--Elaine Grafton; [PRIVATE]
28.06--Edwin "Eddie" Grafton; [PRIVATE]

Hi, I am writing to correct the information that John Corey gave you for the descendants of Mabel Stanley. My father, Thomas A. Grafton, III, was her son. He passed away on April 24, 2004. I am his daughter. All of my brothers and sisters are alive. They are (listed above), in order of oldest to youngest.  Don't know if there is any other information you need regarding our branch of the family, but this will make your existing records correct. If you need anything else, like middle names, or marriages, let me know. I found your information very interesting. Take care, Merry Jo

27.06--Grafton;

27.07--Grafton;

26.04--Mamie Chloe Stanley ("Maw-maw"), b. 8 Sept 1879 (Everyone thought she was born in 1882; indeed, even her tombstone records the error based on her own testimony; however, the census of June/July 1880 records her age as 9 mos!) in Nicholas Co., WV; d. 30 Oct 1957 at Witcher; bd. at the Keeney plots in Witcher's Creek Cem.; m. 11 Nov 1911 to McDonald Keeney (b. 28 July 1877; d. 16 May 1938 at Witcher, WV; bd. at the Keeney plots in Witcher's Creek Cem); 7 children; 22 grandchildren--[I, John Gwin, am one of these 22, and as almost none of us ever knew our "Granddaddy Mack", we grew up with his adopted brother-in-law, our (grand-) "Uncle George" (next), who made a fine "surrogate Grandpa" to almost all of us.]
27.01--Maxine Keeney, b.; m. Norman Holt Harless, Sr.; 7 ch.
28.01--Jeanne Carol Harless,
28.02--Linda Jo Harless,
28.03--Mary Chloe Harless,
28.04--Norman Holt Harless, Jr.,
28.05--Dorothy Jane Harless,
28.06--Suzanne Harless,
28.07--Catherine Harless,
27.02--Hannah Margaret Keeney, b.; d. Jan 2001 on George W. Bush's inauguration day; m. never;

27.03--Dorothy Lee "Dot" Keeney, b. 10 Feb 1915; m. 11 Aug 1942 in New Orleans, LA, to Adrian Sutton Gwin (b. 12 Sep 1916; d. 7 May 2001); 2 ch.

28.01--John McDonald Gwin b. 29 Oct 1947 at Charleston, WV, near their home in St. Albans; m. 24 Jul 1976, in St. Albans, WV, to Sharon Lynn Hamrick (b. 28 Sep 1951) both currently teaching school (with over 60 years' experience between them!) in Las Cruces, NM; e.mail jmcdgwin@zianet.com; (family photos);
29.01--Jeremiah Scott Gwin b. 3 Oct 1978 in Las Cruces, NM; m. 9 Jun 2006 in Las Cruces to Dr. Kara Marie Douglas, M. D. of Las Cruces; live in El Paso, TX;

29.02--Charity Elizabeth Gwin b. 11 May 1980 in Las Cruces, NM; m. 19 Jul 2002 in Las Cruces, NM, to Beau Scott Pihlaja; live in Deerfield, IL;

30.01--Asher Samuel Neeraj Pihlaja, b. Sep 2008 in Bangalore, India;

29.03--Sarah Joy Gwin b. 9 May 1981 in Las Cruces, NM; m. 30 Dec 2002 in Las Cruces, NM, to Jason Deane Johnson, Sr.; live in Las Cruces, NM;

30.01--Jason Deane "J. D." Johnson, Jr., b. 7 Feb 2003 in Las Cruces, NM;

30.02--Ryan Jonathan Johnson, b. 4 Sep 2004 in Las Cruces, NM;

30.03--Tate Austin Johnson, b. 21 Apr 2006 in Las Cruces, NM;

30.04--Zachary Jacob Johnson, b. 2008 in Las Cruces, NM;
28.02--Patrick Forsythe Gwin b.14 Feb 1951 at South Charleston, WV, near the home in St. Albans; d. Feb 2008 in Witcher, Kanawha Co., WV; m1. summer 1970 in St. Albans, WV, to Sheryl Ruffner (div. 198?); (family photos); m2. Vonda Kay Sigmon Mitchell; 2 ch.
29.01--Courtney Elaine Gwin b. 1 Sep 1976 in Charleston, near St. Albans, WV;  m. Nov 2000 to Neal Schott in Knoxville, TN;

29.02--Lauren Elissa Gwin b. 10 Oct 1980 in Charleston, near St. Albans, WV;  m. Oct 2001 to Charles Spurlock in South Point, OH; lived at Camp Lejeune, NC; div. 2007

PFG m2. on 22 Jul 1989 in Nitro, WV, near home, St. Albans, WV, to Vonda Kay Sigmon Mitchell (b. 5 Aug 1951); div. 2001;
27.04--Mildred Agnes "Milly" Keeney, b.; m. never;

27.05--Albert McDonald "Buster" Keeney, b.; m2. Phyllis Caldwell; 3 ch.; m3. Juanita

28.01--George McDonald "Mack" Keeney,
28.02--Rebecca Louise "Beckie Lou" Keeney,
28.03--Joseph William "Joe Bill" Keeney,
27.06--Helen Pauline "Bennie" Keeney, b.; d. 1999; m. James Thomas "Tom" Metheny, Sr. (d. 1999); 5 ch.
28.01--James Thomas Metheny, Jr., d. 2003
28.02--Judith Karen Metheny,
28.03--Jane Lynn Metheny, d. 1964
28.04--Joan Elizabeth "Jo Beth" Metheny,
28.05--Jennifer Gail Metheny,
27.07--George McClure Keeney, b.; m. Frankie Lucas; 5 ch.
28.01--Lynn Lee Keeney,
28.02--George Kent Keeney,
28.03--Charles "Chuck" McDonald Keeney,
28.04--Daniel Adrian Keeney,
28.05--Christopher Ian Keeney,
(26.05)--George Stanley, (adopted son) b. ; d. 1984; bd. in Hendrick Cem., Fayette Co., near Ansted, WV, below Hawk's Nest St. Pk; veteran of WW I; m1. Frances; no children; m2. Blanche; veteran of WWI; no children
25.07-- Saphrona Young, b. ca. 1846 [listed as Safronia, age 4, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Dist. 29, Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; [not listed in the 4 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Ct. Hs., Kanawha Co., VA (now WV) and assumed deceased or married VERY young]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.08-- William Young, b. ca. 1848 [listed as William, age 2, in the 30 Oct 1850 census of Dist. 29, Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; [listed as William, age 13, in the 4 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Ct. Hs., Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; [listed as William, age 22, in the 15 Jun 1870 census of Elk Twp., Kanawha Ct. Hs., Kanawha Co., WV]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.09-- Harriet Young, b. ca. 1851
; [listed as Harriet, age 9, in the 4 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Ct. Hs., Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; [listed as Harriet, age 18, in the 15 Jun 1870 census of Elk Twp., Kanawha Ct. Hs., Kanawha Co., WV]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.10--Lewis G. Young, b. ca. 1853
; [listed as Lewis, age 7, in the 4 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Ct. Hs., Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; [listed as Lewis G., age 16, in the 15 Jun 1870 census of Elk Twp., Kanawha Ct. Hs., Kanawha Co., WV]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.

25.11--Charles Young, b. ca. 1856; [listed as Charles, age 4, in the 4 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Ct. Hs., Kanawha Co., VA (now WV)]; [listed as Charles  age 14, in the 15 Jun 1870 census of Elk Twp., Kanawha Ct. Hs., Kanawha Co., WV]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. c

1880 United States Federal Census about William Young (Is this our William?)


Name Age
William Young 31
Louisa Young 27
Daniel Young 7
Charles Young 5
Martha Young 2
Farris Young 1

1900 United States Federal Census about Charles Young (Is this our Charles?)

Name: Charles Young
Home in 1900: Upper Pinch, Kanawha, West Virginia
Age: 42
Birth Date: Dec 1857
Birthplace: West Virginia
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: West Virginia
Mother's Birthplace: West Virginia
Spouse's Name: Harriet
Marriage Year: 1882
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 18
Residence : Elk District (Precincts 1-2), Kanawha, West Virginia
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Young 42
Harriet Young 40
Blanche Young 18
Irvin D Young 16
Luther W Young 14
Everett Young 12
Emmon Young 10
Bessie G Young 5
Walter L Young 4
Charles H Young 1





26.00--James Luther Young, b.

27.00--Donna's parent, b.

28.00--Donna Prosser, b.

Saturday 10/06/2007
Name:     Donna Prosser
E-Mail:     d2_prosserAthotmailDotcom
Location:     East Hampton, CT
Comments:     My great-grandfather was charles young, my great-great-grandfather was charles conrad young. My grandfather was james luther young.



25.12--John F. Young, b. ca. 1863; [listed as John F., age 7, in the 15 Jun 1870 census of Elk Twp., Kanawha Ct. Hs., Kanawha Co., WV]; [listed as John F., age 17, in the 21 Jun 1880 census of Hamilton Dist., Nicholas Co., WV, living with his father, Charles C., and stepmother, America]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.


1900 United States Federal Census about John F Young -- (placed here temporarily because I think this is our John F. but I want to check elsewhere first)


Name: John F Young
Home in 1900: Falling Spring, Greenbrier, West Virginia
Age: 37
Birth Date: Dec 1862
Birthplace: West Virginia
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: West Virginia
Mother's Birthplace: West Virginia
Spouse's Name: Isibel
Marriage Year: 1889
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 11
Residence : Falling Spring District (Precincts 3-4), Greenbrier, West Virginia
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John F Young 37
Isibel Young 27
Charles H Young 8
Mary J Young 7
Lewis J Young 5
William J Young 4
Rohada B Young 2
Levi J Young 8/12


1910 United States Federal Census about John H Young (placed here temporarily because I think this is our John F. but I want to check 1900 census, left, first)


Name: John H Young
[John F Young] 
Age in 1910: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Birthplace: West Virginia
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: West Virginia
Mother's Birth Place: West Virginia
Spouse's Name: Isabella
Home in 1910: Falling Spring, Greenbrier, West Virginia
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John H Young (John F.)
47
Isabella Young 37
Charles H Young 18
Louis J Young 15
William J Young 14
Rhoda B Young 10
Nessie J Young 7
Fennie M Young (Fannie)
4
Missouri Young 1 3/12


24.02--Rebecca A. Young, b. ; d.; m.,

24.03--William Young, Jr., b. ; d.; m.,
23.07--George E. Young, b. to Conrad and Elizabeth; d. unk.; m. 12 Jan 1812 to Eudoshi Hudelson [Tom Young says George was b. 1788; he has their marriage on 29 Dec 1811, some two weeks earlier (this could be the date of receipt of the license with the other the date of the wedding); he has Eudoshi b. 1787 in Kanawha Co, VA (now WV).]
24.01--Johnathan Young, b. 1823; d. 3 Nov 1890; m. 13 Dec 1844 to Catherine Huffman

25.00--Lewis Robert Young, b. 15 May 1853; m. 15 Jun 1879 to Ellie Mae Sharp

26.00--Romeo Roy Young, b. 15 Feb 1886; d. May 1949; m. 2 Mar 1917 to Estel Starcher (b. 3 Aug 1894; d. 29 Mar 1983)

27.00--Tom Young's parents [PRIVATE]

28.00--Tom Young [PRIVATE]

24.02--Uriah Young
24.03--Mary "Mollie" Young, b. 26 Aug 1818; d. 1880; m. William Hase

24.00--Daniel Young, b. 1818; m. Catherine Hayes

25.00--George W. Young b. 1838, m. Mary Hayes

26.00--Elizabeth Catherine Young, b. CA 1870; d. 1917; m. Charles Kennedy

27.00--Clyde Hansford Kennedy, b. 1900; d. 1984; m. [private]

28.00--Mae Kennedy; m. Mr. Van Dinter

24.04--Sharlet Young, m. Samuel Halory

24.05--Patsy Young, b. 1833; m. John Samples


[Mae Van Dinter Note:
My lineage is:  b. 1788: George E. Young and Eudoshia Huddleston. Their son b 1818, Daniel, married Catherine Hayes. Their son, George W. Young b. 1838, m. Mary Hayes. Their daughter, Elizabeth Catherine Young, b. ca. 1870, d. 1917; m. Charles Kennedy. Their son was my father, Clyde Hansford Kennedy, born 1900, d. 1984.

These were from Clendenin area on Elk River.  I was born in 1933 at my maternal grandfather's farm on Morris Fork of Blue Creek.  So, I believe I am sixth generation from Conrad Jung/Young.]

[John M. Gwin Note: I just noticed something interesting about Mae's contribution. If the info we have on the births of her 4.0--Daniel Young and our 4.3 Mary "Mollie" Young are correct, then they have to have been twins! And so I have moved her info (in that blue color) up under Mollie's name until we find out otherwise.]

[John M. Gwin Note: In Jan 2009 I found this family in the 1850 census of District 29, Kanawha Co., VA (now WV), the Ancestry.com summary of which is posted to the right.]

Name: Daniel Young
Age: 32
Est. YOB: abt 1818
Gender: Male
Home, 1850 (City,Co.,St.): Dist. 29, Kanawha, VA
Household Members:
Name Age
Catharine Young 27
Daniel Young 32
Daniel Young 0
Docia A Young 4
George Young 12
John Young 9
Lewis Young 3
Martha J Young 6

23.08--Mathias Young, b. to Conrad and Elizabeth; d. ; m. Nancy Hickman


Lots more to come! :-)

Page begun 2 Sep 1999

Original Material Updated May 2002


Some Pertinent Census Data

From the 30 Oct 1850 census of Kanawha Co., VA
Res/Fam
Name
Age
Est.
YOB
Race/
Sex
Occupation
Value
RealEst.
POB
Other
John M. Gwin Comments
1534/1571
John B. Young
53
1797
wm
farmer
600
VA

This just about has to be our John Bird Young, husband of Margaret and father of Harvey (listed here as Harvy).

Margaret Young
54
1796
wf


VA


James S. Young 27
1823
wm
cooper

VA


Jacob A. Young 24
1826
wm
cooper

VA


Harvy Young
16
1834
wm
laborer

VA
This is our 25.00--Harvey Humphrey Young.

Sarah A. Young
18
1832
wf


VA


Nancy Young
16
1834
wf


VA


William Matheny
9
1841
wm


VA
He appears in this family in 1860 as well. Could he be a grandson?

Sarah A. Matheny
7
1843
wf


VA
She does not appear in 1860 in the family home, but she could easily have just married around age 16-17.

From the 14 Aug 1860 census of Kanawha Court House, Kanawha Co., VA
Res/Fam
Name
Age
Est.
YOB
Race/
Sex
Occupation
Esta.Val.
Real/Pers
POB
Other
John M. Gwin Comments
1854/1854
John B. Young
62
1798
wm
farmer
600/250
VA

John Bird Young in the 14 Aug 1860 census of KanawhaCo., VA

Margaret Young 65
1795
wf


VA


Harvey Young 26
1834
wm
laborer

VA
Harvey is still not married

Nancy Young 23
1837
wf


VA


William Matheny
17
1843
wm


VA
Here he is again, first seen ten years ago in 1850. Can this be a grandson to John B. and Margaret?

Several other Youngs







Several other Young families live in this community: #1853, James S., 28; #1852, Charles W., 51; #1850, William, 48; to name three on this page alone. These may likely be relatives as well.

From the 3 Jun 1870 census of Kanawha Court House, Elk Twp., Kanawha Co., WV
Res/Fam
Name
Age
Est.
YOB
Race/
Sex
Occupation
Esta.Val.
Real/Pers
POB
Other
John M. Gwin Comments
8/8
John B. Young
73
1797
wm
farmer
600/250
VA now WV

John Bird Young

Jane Young 62
1808
wf
keeping house

VA
Apparently Margaret has died and John has remarried this young thing.

Harvey H. Young 34
1836
wm
school teacher

VA now WV
Harvey is still not married

Annie E. Young 16
1854
wf


VA now WV


Filetus Fleck
9
1861
wm
at home

VA now WV
Here he is again, first seen ten years ago in 1850. Can this be a grandson to John B. and Margaret?

Several other Youngs







Several other Young families live in this community: #11, James A., 71; #9, Charles W., 60; #10, Samuel M., 30; #12, Edmond P., 32; to name four on this page alone. These may likely be relatives as well.



N  O  T  E  S

Subject:     Keepin' in touch with cousins!
Received:    1/15/02 7:06 PM
From:        Beverly Goding, goding@netw.com
To:          jmcdgwin, jmcdgwin@zianet.com

I sent you this message in Dec and never got an answer.  I take it you are Dot and Adrian's kid??

Beverly
----- Original Message -----
From: "Beverly Goding" <goding@netw.com>
To: "jmcdgwin" <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: Keepin' in touch with cousins!

When I was a little girl, I used to write to Maude Stanley all the time in Charleston, WVA.  I also knew Dot and Adrian very well. They stayed at our house, and I used to get letters from them and the Keeney sisters--and I adored George Stanley. My father was named after the Stanley family.

3.0--Mabel Wood Carr; m1. Clement Edgar Farenkamm; m2. Olen Glade Carr
4.2--Lillian Mabel Farenkamm 1 year
4.2--Stanley Farenkamm; m1 Elaine Winifred Ward; m2 Ann Elizabeth Ebbert
5.0--Beverly Farenkamm; m. Ralph Joel Goding
6.0--Glade Phillip Goding; m1 Dawn Hartman; m2 Marlyn Kragh
7.1--Krystle "K" Goding
GPG m2 Marlyn Kragh
7.2--Zoe Goding
6.0--Wayne Stanley Goding; m Cary Lee Goullette
7.1--Natalia Rae Goding
7.2--LaTara Ann Goding
7.3--James Joel Goding
7.4--Justin Wayne Goding
SF m2 Ann Elizabeth Ebbert
5.0--Joseph Glade Farenkamm; m Phyliss Horn
So if I have it correctly above, then:
Fannie and Mary Young were sisters;
Mamie Stanley and Mabel Carr were 1st cousins;
Dot and Stanley are 2nd cousins;
You and I are 3rd cousins; and
Your kids and mine are 4th cousins.

Maybe ---- sounds good to me.
In Jesus,
John
So what church do you go to John?
Beverly

More Valuable Communication!


From: "Mary" <hjematutidotcom>
Date: Wed Jul 09, 2003
To: <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: hello

Hello, what a nice job you have done and many hours of labor to produce. I am a distant family member. [Here's more on my line:]

5.00-- Silvanus G. Chapman, b. 29 Feb 1844 in Putnam Co., WV; d. 1885; served in Civil War, CSA, Co. F., 30th VA Bn; bd. Chapman Cem., Co. Rd., East out of Linden on Flat Run Rd., Roane Co., WV; m. 10 Jul 1867 in Roane Co., WV, to Henrietta B. Young (b. 17 Jun 1850 in Kanawha Co., VA; d. 1925; bd. Chapman Cem., Co. Rd., East out of Linden on Flat Run Rd., Roane Co., WV; d/o Benjamin S. Young and Lucinda V. Huffman); 10 ch.;

6.01--Mary A. Chapman, b. 9 Feb 1868 in Roane Co., WV;
6.02--Martha J. Chapman, b. 12 Jun 1869 in Roane Co; m. 1 Jan 1893 in Roane Co., WV, to William M. Samples (b. 30 May 1866 in Kanawha Co., WV, s/o Robert Samples and Mary Catherine Pauley); at least 3 ch.

7.01--Doyle Marie Samples, b. 8 Jul 1893 in Smithfield Dist., Roane Co., WV; m. Clyde Layman (d. 1916)
[Mary's Note: Clyde Layman died 2 months before my grandfather was born. I cannot find any information on Clyde and am hoping someone from this family line may have some to share.   We heard stories over the years that it was an accident at either a Pulp and Paper Factory in Richwood, WV, or an oil rig accident near Linden, WV.  This is our brick wall, so to speak; would love to know this part of our tree. Thank you! Mary]

8.01--Paul M. Layman, b. 1914
8.02--Frank Layman, b. 1916 (my grandfather)

9.00--Mary's parent [PRIVATE]

10.00--Mary [PRIVATE]

7.02-- Chloe Adalaine Samples, b. 6 Jun 1896 in Linden, Roane  Co., WV..
7.03-- Mina May Samples, b. 15 Jan 1898 in Linden, Roane Co., WV

6.03--Benjamin F. Chapman, b. 28 Oct 1870;
6.04--Frances E. "Fannie" Chapman, b. 17 Apr 1872 in Roane Co., WV;
6.05--Carrie B. Chapman, b. 25 Mar 1874;
6.06--William S. Chapman, b. 28 Feb 1875 in Roane Co., WV;
6.07--Lucy D. Chapman, b. 30 Sep 1876 in Roane Co., WV;
6.08--Lottie V. Chapman, b. 21 Apr 1878;
6.09--Henry Nelson Chapman, b. 29 Aug 1879;
6.10--John G. Chapman, b. 10 Jun 1881 in Walton Dist., Roane C WV;




From: John R Corey <metromountain@juno.com>
Date: Thu Jan 22, 2004 
To: jmcdgwin@zianet.com
Subject: Genealogy Ancestry of Mathias Jung 1742

Cousins:
Last weekend I was in Lancaster, PA, at the Tell Cedars of Lebanon Midwinter Conference at the Host Inn; I arrived Friday afternoon and went to the visitor center and began inquiring about our geneology, then I went to the Moravian Town of Littitz which is 10 miles or so North of Lancaster.

This is the town where Sutter came back home to after they trashed his mill and land in the California Gold Rush.  Joe Wood's Gold Wagon circa 1898 was on display there when cousin Stanley Farenkamm took me there to see it in1989 or so. His wife Mary (Young) was a descendent of Mathias Jung in Lancaster. Michael Jung was the only one with that name buried in the cemetery behind the Church in Littitz.

Mathias  and his younger brother Marcus came over from Rotterdam on the "Loyal Judith" to Philadelphia and then to Lancaster where Mathias was a burgess (mayor of the boro) and cordwainer (cut cordwood for his store) and Marcus was a blacksmith. They changed their names in 1747 to Matthew Young and Marks or Markes Young when they gave allegiance to King George.

In the Pennsylvania Genealogical Magazine on Page 122 for 1965 at mid page below Item (13) Orphans  Court in the next paragraph it reads "John Hobson who intermarryed with the widow of Mathias Young (footnote 15, deceased is appointed guardian over Henry Herclerodt, Orphan child of Henry Herclodt deceased, in room of the said Mathias Young."

Footnote 15 reads: "The will of Matthew Young of Lancaster Borough, dated 12 July and proved 27 July 1749, mentions his wife but not by name, children Conrad, Jacob, Catharine, Mary  and Christina and nominated his brother Marks Young executor.  Will Book A-1,177:1749."

The will on microfilm in the Lancaster Mennonite Historical Society, just down Rt. 30 from the Host Inn at 2215 Millstream Road where Carolyn Wenger is Director, Lancaster, PA 17602-1429, is written in English script and also mentions John Graves as an executor and gives all the children 50 pounds Pa Currency when they are 21 and Conrad as the primary heir, being the oldest son; the house/store was located next to property owned by E. Stoudt, and there is a brewery by that name in Adamsburg today.  Copies of the Will are available from the Court House where the microfilm was made.

I hope this is helpful to all my cousins and please pass it on.
JOHN COREY




From: "John R. Corey"
Date: Thu Jul 13, 2006
Subject: Re: family info

Beverly, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE MY MOM'S DAR RECORD WHICH IS NOW MY SAR RECORD. I DON'T HAVE THEM HANDY BUT WILL CONJECTURE FROM MEMORY.
 
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006  John R. Corey writes:

bgodingatverizondotnet>
To: "John R. Corey"
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006
Subject: family info
 
Hi,
1.)  Was wondering if you know anything about Mary Elizabeth Young?  I have a picture of her and on it is written -- Mary Elizabeth Young, part Chickahominy Indian.  Does this ring a bell?  Who was her mother?  Is there a possibility she could be Indian?
WHEN THE SOLDIERS CAME AND TOOK ALL THE CATTLE, HOGS, HORSES AND PRODUCE OF CONRAD YOUNG AND HIS WIFE MARGARET JAMES,  SISTERS MARY ELIZABETH AND FANNY RODE OFF ON THEIR SIDE SADDLES AND WERE TAKEN IN BY THEIR COUSINS THE RUFFNERS. CONRAD AND HIS WIFE MARGARET WERE TAKEN OFF TO CAMP CHASE?

AFTER THE CIVIL WAR THEIR LAND, WHERE MOM IS NOW IN MEADOWBROOK MANOR, WAS BOUGHT UP BY CARPETBAGGERS (THE CABELLS?)

MARY ELIZABETH'S MOTHER WAS MARGARET JAMES WHOSE FATHER WAS JESSE JAMES.  HER MOTHER WAS A MORRIS AND HER FATHER FOUGHT IN THE VIRGINIA MILITIA DURING THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR.

MARY WAS THE THIRD WIFE OF JOE WOOD, WHOSE GOLD WAGON IS AT SUTTER'S MILL NATIONAL  PARK, ACCORDING TO YOUR DAD WHEN HE TOOK ME THERE.

OUR GRANDMOTHER MABEL STANLEY GRAFTON, WHO LIVED TO BE ALMOST 104, SAID WE WERE PART CHEROKEE AND POCAHONTAS' TRIBE--WHICH I THOUGHT TO BE DELAWARE, BUT COULD BE CHICKAHOMINY(?).

2.)  Does anyone know what George Stanley's real last name is?  His parents were massacred by Indians when he was 7 years old, while he was watching.
EVIDENTLY THIS MAY BE ONE OF MARY'S SIBLINGS, AS GEORGE WASHINGTON STANLEY WAS THE HUSBAND OF OUR GREAT-GRANDMOTHER FANNY YOUNG STANLEY, MARY ELIZABETH'S SISTER.

GEORGE WASHINGTON STANLEY'S FATHER WAS ISAAC STANLEY FROM GEORGE'S CREEK, THE NEXT HOLLOW EAST OF CAMPBELL'S CREEK WHERE THE STANLEY HOME WAS AT THE MOUTH OF WASH HOLLOW.

PERHAPS ISAAC'S DAD WAS GEORGE STANLEY?  OUR OLDEST COUSIN GEORGE STANLEY WILL BE 96 IN OCTOBER.  IT WAS HIS 29 TH ANNUAL FAMILY REUNION I ATTENDED ON JULY 4TH AT PUTNAM COUNTY PARK WITH HIS GRANDDAUGHTERS THERE FROM NORTHERN CALIFORNIA AND CARSON CITY, NEVADA.  GEORGE'S PHONE NUMBER IN CHESAPEAKE, A DEMOCRATIC TOWN WHERE HE WAS THE REPUBLICAN MAYOR TWICE, IS 304--949-4132.  ASK HIM?  PERHAPS COUSIN JOHN GWIN HAS THIS INFORMATION?

LOVE,  john corey

Love,
Bev



From: "John R. Corey" <metromountainatjunodotcom>
Date: January 1, 2007 10:19:13 PM MST
To: jmcdgwin@zianet.com
Subject: Stanley/Young Update

Cousin John,
I was in Charleston last Saturday 2006 with Cousin George Stanley, 96; he showed me the Stanley family as researched by a Belcher nephew. It said our forefathers were called Stonely back in England around 1611 or so.  I also saw that the "Loyal Judith" came from Rotterdam to Philadelphia with our ancestor Mathias Jung (Matthew Young after 1747) in 1732 and not 10 years later as I believed.  It also said that Captain John Young, the scout for Washington, Indian Fighter, and incorporator of Charleston buried on the hill above Young's Bottom near Clendennin, was the father of Charles Conrad Young, our great-grandfather who is buried in the Hendrick Cemetery in the curve before Hawk's Nest State Park. Charles Conrad was Fanny Young Stanley's and Mary Young Wood's father and owned the land where Mom is at the Meadowbrook Nursing Center. George will have David or Doris Aliff mail me the pages about the Stanley/ Young family.




From: "John R. Corey" <metromountain@juno.com>
Date: August 1, 2007
To: bgodingatverizondotnet
Subject: Re: Our Geneology

Kearney, Clay County, Missouri, USA; Died April 3, 1882 (aged 34); St. Joseph, Missouri, USA

When my grandparents and Aunt Mary visited West Virginia, someone took them out and showed them a great big rock.  They said it was the grave of Margaret James.  My mom took a picture -- but I don't know where it is. Love, Beverly

----- Original Message ----
From: John R. Corey <metromountain@juno.com>
To: bgodingatverizondotnet
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007
Subject: Re: Our Geneology

Cousin Beverly,
        Grandma Grafton (Mabel Stanley Grafton) said we were related to Jesse James and Harry Truman.  Jesse James was the 1784 version or father of Margaret James Young in the DAR & SAR Geneology that is registered. Grandmother said Solomon Young, Harry Truman's Father-in-law  had his family bible burned and the connection could NOT be proven, so I am glad you have cleared this up.
        However, Harry Truman was Grandmaster of Masons in Missouri, and both of the Adams, Sam and John Quincy, were part of the Anti-Masonic movement? Which Adams was it that was mentioned in the Ruffner lineage as the governor was allegedly a cousin who took in Fanny and Mary Young after Conrad and Margaret were taken off to Camp Chase???? and then lost their land to carpetbaggers when they returned after the Civil War.  John
 
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 bgodingatverizondotnet writes:

One account of the Booker T. Washington family and the Ruffner reunion said we were related to Adams I believe. We are definitely related to Harry S. Truman.  He was a cousin of my grandmother, Mabel.  I also retracked back from his family history to make sure it was the same people, and it was.  We had a very busy, pioneer family. Bev
 
----- Original Message ----
From: John R. Corey <metromountainatjunodotcom>
To: tomattomyoungdotus
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007
Subject: Re: Our Geneology

Tom,
        When I was an elected PA State Constable I went in the CourtHouse in Lancaster and copied the will that was proved (probated) in July1749 when Matthew Young's widow intermarried with a Hobson; I believe hehad 2 sons and 3 daughters.  His next door neighbor was a Staub family
and there is a brewery there today with that name!
        My paternal ancester with the same name as me, John Corey, builtthe first log cabin in the village of New London, south of Norwalk, Mylanand Sandusky and west of Akron.  Perhaps we could meet near there. Thatwould be southeast of Toledo I believe! I look forward to meeting youbefore too long!  John Corey is buried next to a Grange Hall in Lake Twp.East of Coldwater Michigan!  John

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:20:35 -0400 "Thomas Young" writes:

John, By the way, I never answered your question about where we are. Unfortunately Toledo is on the Western side of the state, actually  on the western end of Lake Erie.  Here's an idea. . . My father's immediate   family used to hold reunions every year or two in West Virginia.  It seems that the family stopped doing that after the last one about three years ago.   Most of my father's generation has passed away, and the cousins are truly everywhere.  The idea of rounding up as many ancestors of Mathias  Young as possible for a weekend somewhere has some appeal to me, although I  think it would be a daunting task.  (Lancaster comes to mind)  The trouble  is communication and also the fact that so many are older, or perhaps  too young to care.  But what a great time that would be if we could pull it off!  I know the descendants of Thomas Jefferson do this to this day.

Also, I recently posted a picture of the first page of Mathias' will  on my blog.  Pretty interesting stuff.  I have a photocopy of the whole  document as well as some of the other documents from the Lancaster museum.  I have no objection to anyone "lifting" it off the site.  If you or anyone else is interested, I'll post the whole thing.
 Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John R. Corey
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007
> To: tom young
> Subject: Re: Our Geneology

Tom, I once again saved the Geneology you sent until I can get the program to open it; cousin John Gwin has the geneology site for our family and I have cced this to him. I wonder if he opened what you sent him? Gleevec normally costs $2000/month, but Novartis gives me samples to keep my leukemia in check and my glucose number is around 160 as I monitor it daily.  I have no problem getting around, but get tired and need rest more than I used to. Cousin John is thin and seems to have survived his horrible car accident many years ago well, at least that was my impression when we met at the New Mexico Border several years  ago.         I will gladly come visit you in Ohio if you give me  directions as Pittsburgh is not that far away I believe.  John Corey By the way Marcus was Mathias Jung's brother and he was a blacksmith while Matthew was a burgeous and cord wainer!




From: "metromountain@juno.com" <metromountain@juno.com>
Date: September 11, 2008
To: jmcdgwin@zianet.com
Subject: Fw: Young family and Wood family


Hi Tom,
I was looking at some of this background, and I think you have crossed the lines up somewhere.
 
Joseph Jr. WOODS.1,2 (Parents: Joseph WOODS and Elizabeth LOGAN. not correct)
My ggrandfather  was Joseph Wood, Jr.  Married to Lillian Mabel Turner

That part is correct and the kids are correct except where noted in red.  There is no "S" on the end.

William Wood was from Gallia County, Ohio.  After that they lived in Virginia, which later became West Virginia in the Shenandoah Valley. Eva Ruffner was the daughter of Joseph Ruffer who bought 1000 acres and put in a stage stop, traveler's hotel on the river. That land became downtown Charleston, West Virginia.  The original house and land which the family lost in bankruptcy in 1939 sits on the capitol grounds next to the Govenor's Mansion and was the G's mansion until they built that one.

William Wood, Sr and Abigail Grigsby
son:  Nehemiah Wood, Sr.--
            son: Nehemiah Wood, Jr  (1770-1824) married Eve Ruffner (2nd wife)
                    son:  Joseph Wood, Sr  b 1809-1899) and Mary Elizabeth Young  (3rd wife)
                                son:  Joseph Wood Jr  married to Lillian Mabel Turner
                                            Children:  10
Joseph WOOD Jr. and Spouse: Lillian Mabel TURNER.
1,2 Children were: Orion Joseph WOOD, Infant Daughter WOODS, Mabel Lillian WOOD, Adrian Clellan WOODS, Vernon Arthur WOODS, Mary Elizabeth Evelyn WOOD, Alice Besse WOOD, Alta Jessie WOOD, Ida Mae Wood,  Albert Leonard WOOD.

So I think somewhere the lines got mixed up in research, because the family never was in Charleston, SC
 
Beverly
__________________________________________________________________________
John,

First, my regards to you and cousin Beverly and Ralph.  I never typed the family history into the form many of you have.  I have used computer software and combined (too many) files and snippets of information, most of which I have found on the internet.  Clearly there are errors in this file, and I don’t claim anywhere that it is all documented and found error free.  Most of the files came by way of ancestry.com and a few files I found floating around the internet like my own.  I also got much of my information from the Mormon site familysearch.org.  I have to admit that this file got way too large, and unmanageable and at one time was over 250,000 names, most of which came from a cousin who traced his whole family line back to Adam and Eve.  I can understand the desire to do so, but there were a lot of “unknowns” in the list.  It took a long time to purge the file back down to the 25,000 it is now, and even so I am pretty much inclined to start over and just stick with what I am sure of on my own.

One way to look at what I have in an easier to understand form is to download the “gedcom” file I have posted at youngnet.us and open a program like the free one available at the familysearch.org site.  If you do so, you will see everything I have laid out the same way I see it.
 
Cousin Beverly, I really want to hear about the Wood line.  It is from  there that I descended, and I  find the whole story fascinating.  I welcome any corrections you care to pass my way.

As I told you, my mother has Alzheimer’s disease, and when you last wrote, we thought she was going to die within a few days, but she has rallied and should be around for a while.  The strange thing is that she had a few days where she could carry on a conversation and react to the rest of the family, but that has passed and although she is still alive she is back to being pretty much unresponsive.

My best to all of you, and if loading that file into the above mentioned software doesn’t answer any questions about what I have, I doubt if I can offer much more.  As I said, one of these days I think I will just start over and keep the file down to a manageable size.

Tom (Young)
tom@tomyoung.us 

From: metromountain@juno.com [mailto:metromountain@juno.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008
To: tomatyoungnetdotus
Cc: bgodingatverizondotnet
Subject: YOUNG Ancestry From Charles Conrad back

 
Cousin Tom,

I'm here in Sagle, Idaho with cousin Beverly Goding on her husband Ralph's computer.  She has all her Wood Family ancestry including the connection to Solomon Young, Harry Truman's maternal Grandfather through that ancestry and Nehemiah Wood and the Ruffners. She doesn't seem to have any of the information listing Charles Conrad Young who was buried in the Hendrick Cemetary in the curve just below Hawk's Nest State park next to adopted George Stanley in 1905 at the age of 95+. Could you send the lineage from Charles Conrad and Margaret James back to Mathias Jung and Anna Fey in and those other German ancestor you may have? Thanks, Cousin John Corey





From: John Gwin <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Date: January 19, 2009 5:27:27 PM MST
To: "Judi Brinegar" <jbrinegaratcausekeepersdotcom>
Subject: Re: Young Connection

Judi, thanks for writing!
I found them in 1860. I have another meeting to go to right now, so I must leave it at this. But we'll find them again in 1850, 1870, and 1880, and perhaps we'll find one of her parents living with them.
:-)
Best to you,
In Jesus,
John  (Contact information:)
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1860 United States Federal Census about Wm A Allen
Name:     Wm A Allen
Age in 1860:     45
Birth Year:     abt 1815
Birthplace:     Virginia
Home in 1860:     Kanawha, Virginia
Post Office: Clendennin
Household Members:    
Name...........................Age
Wm. A. Allen..............45
Elizabeth Allen..........35
Janette Allen...............11
Ruth Allen.....................9
Simon Allen..................8
William A. Allen..........4
John H. Allen................2 months

On Jan 19, 2009 Judi Brinegar wrote:

Hoping you can help me on one of my Young family members.
 
I am looking for the parents of Elizabeth Young who was married to William Augustus Allen.
She was born circa 1820 and died 15Jan1890 in Clendenin, Kanawha Co WV.
Buried at Hayes Cemetery at Falling Rock, Kanawha Co WV.

I believe they were married at the home of George Young. I know a Charles Young represented her for many years when she was trying to get William’s pension from the Civil War.

Children included:

Jeanetta (m. Keenan Coleman),
John Henry (m. Savannah Rucker),
William A. (m. Cassandra England),
Uriah (m. Sarah Icenhower, Savannah Rucker Allen after John’s death),
Rutha (my ancestor-m. Isaiah Smith),
Maria,
Rosina (m. Andrew Floyd England)
 
I can’t determine who Elizabeth’s parents were. I though George and Eudosia Huddleston Young, but maybe not. Do you have any info on her?
 
Thanks for any help you may be able to give me.
 
Judi Brinegar
Researching Smith, Allen, Young, Carte, Taylor, Chapman, Sampson and Hall


From: Melinda Garbacz <sissyunderscore1999atmsndotcom>
Date: October 27, 2009
To: <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: In regards to William A. Allen and wife Elizabeth

Hi John,

I saw your questions sent to Judi Brinegar posted on her website back in January. I don't know if anyone has answered your question so I just wanted to share with you what I have.
 
Elizabeth was not a Young; she was a Hayes.  Her parents were John Hayes and Elizabeth "Betsy" Naylor.  After John's death in 1836, Betsy married George Young. That is why Elizabeth and William were married at the home of George Young. This was her mother and stepfather's home.   After George died, Elizabeth's mother went on to marry a third time to Samuel Estep.  I hope this helps!
 
Best of Luck,
Melinda Patton Garbacz


1880 United States Federal Census about Elizabeth Allen


Name: Elizabeth Allen
Home in 1880: Big Sandy, Kanawha, West Virginia
Age: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Birthplace: W V
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Father's birthplace: W. V.
Mother's birthplace: OH.
Occupation: Farming
Marital Status: Married
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Allen 54
William A. Allen 23
John Henry Allen 19
Nancy E. Allen 15
Maria Allen 8










 






From: Jackie Young
Date: March 5, 2009
To: <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: Young family

My name is Jackie Sue Young.  I am the granddaughter of Harvey H. Young and Olive Mae Young.  My father was Jasper Harrison Young, born 9/11/1917.  My mother was Alvalyon Delores (Tucker) Young, born 05/15/1923.  My mother died in 1982, my father died two years ago.  I grew up with a lot of cousins.  Many cousins I have never met. 
 
My Aunt Cora Young Jones was the eldest of Harvey and Olive Mae's children.  She was married to Simon Jones.  Their children were:
Marvin Lee; Ralph; Janette; Samona; Francis; Mary; Shirlely; Sue; Richard.  I may have left someone out, but some of us knew each other as children and some of the others were older than I.
 
Nancy Young Canterberry - I did not know all of her family as well as some.  Nancy was married to Roamy Canterberry. 
 
Aunt Peggy Young Talbert married to Okle Talbert; children:  Twins - Tommy and Judy; Larry, Jennings; Glenn; Gary; Jack Douglas; Harvey; Twins - Ruth Ann and Ray.  Again, I may have left some out but these are the cousins that I knew growing up.
 
Uncle Harvey Young - was killed in a slate fall in the mines when he was 17.
 
Uncle Jennings Young - died as a young child.
 
Aunt June Young Hall - married to Lawrence Hall.  They had several children, though I cannot think of them now.  David Young is the son of June Young Hall.
 
Aunt Patricia Young Rogers - children that I remember:  Harvey, Tye
 
Aunt Zada Fernatt - married to Junior Fernatt.  Zada was the youngest of Harvey and Olive Mae's children.  I'm sorry to say that I don't know the names of her children.
 
Auant Clara Belle Young Greathouse - married to William Greathouse; sons Randy and Billy.
 
Uncle Hoy Young
 
Uncle Jimmy Young
 
Uncle Melton Young
 
Aunt Doris Westfall
 
Uncle Maury Young, married to Reba.
 
There were other children who died as children, but I don't know their names.
 
My siblings:
 
Alvalyon Lorain Mae (Sally) Young Greathouse; married to Kenneth Greathouse; children Norville Eric Greathouse and Todd Stephen Greathouse.
 
Carol Ann Young Saunders Talbert - Married to Jack Talbert; children Sheila Delene Saunders Stevens; Angela Nicole Saunders; (Twin brother to Angela - Darrin Jeffrey Saunders died at age 13); Nichole Beth Saunders Canterberry.
 
Roger Neal Young - married to Mary Young; children; Sarah Elizabeth; Andrew and Beau.
 
I just wanted to share some of my information with you.  I hope it gives you some information that you don't have.
 
 

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Location: Plano, TX
Comments: Great website. Very detailed. I received and email from a cousin yesterday talking about John Young "Revolutionary War" married to Keziah Tackett. I have been intrigued by this information and have been web searching since. I would like to find info on the family between John and William Bruce Young of Clendenin. W.B. Young was my great grandfather. We are having a family re-union in June and would love to be able to share some info about our history.




26.04--Mamie Chloe Stanley, b. Sep 1879 ("Maw-maw" told everyone she was born in 1882--indeed, the little lie is even inscribed on her tombstone--however, the 1880 census tells us the truth:)[listed as Mamie Stanley, age 9 mos., in June 1880 census]; d. 1957; bd. Witcher Ck. Cem.; m. McDonald Keeney; 7 ch.; 22 gch.
27.01--Maxine Stanley Keeney, m. Norman Holt Harless, Sr.; 7 ch.;
27.02--Hannah Margaret Keeney, m. never; d. on inauguration day of George W. Bush, 2001
27.03--Dorothy Lee "Dot" Keeney, b. 10 Feb 1915; d. 31 May 2005 in Las Cruces, NM, near her older son's family, age 90; m. 11 Aug 1942 in New Orleans, LA, to Adrian Sutton Gwin (b. 12 Sep 1916; d. 7 May 2001 in Las Cruces, NM, age 84; body donated to medical science, cremated; in Jun 2005 their ashes were buried, at Dot's request, in Witcher Cemetery); 2 ch.;
28.01--John McDonald Gwin, b. 29 Oct 1947; m. Sharon Lynn Hamrick (b. 28 Sep 1951)--[Terry Henderson's father and I are 4th cousins, and Terry and I are 4th cousins once removed; our 3 children are Terry's 5th cousins:]
29.01--Jeremiah Scott "Jeremy" Gwin; m. Jessica Marie Douglas
29.02--Charity Elizabeth Gwin; m.  Beau Scott Pihlaja
29.03--Sarah Joy Gwin; m. Jason D. Johnson
28.02--Patrick Forsythe Gwin, b. 14 Feb 1951;
27.04--Mildred Agnes "Millie" Keeney, m. never; still living in Sep 2006 at age 90;
27.05--Albert McDonald "Buster" Keeney, m. Phyllis Caldwell; still living in Sep 2006; 3 ch.
27.06--Helen Pauline "Bennie" Keeney, m. James Thomas "Tom" Metheny, Sr.; both d. in the fall of 1999; 5 ch.
27.07--George McClure Keeney, m. Frankie Lucas; both still living in Sep 2006; 5 ch.
25.05--Mary Jane Stanley, b. 1847 in Kanawha Co., VA; d. Jul 1890; m. 2 Jan 1831 [sic--obvious error]
25.06--Jerome Stanley, b. 1850;
25.07--Alphonso Stanley, b. 9 Sep 1853;








Hello, John,
 
I have been skip-reading your latest zianet version of the Young family, and thought I would submit a few details in case you are interested in adding them to the site.
 
21.00--Mathias (Hans Mattheus) Young and Anna Margaretta Fey Young were my gr-gr-gr-gr-great grandparents via
22.00--Conrad and Anna Margaretha Franciscus Young;
23.00--John and Mary Keziah Tackett Young;
24.00--Margaret Young and John Bird Young;
25.00--Harvey Humphrey and Annie Ferrell Young;
26.01--Staunton William and Lilly Belle Copen Young; and
27.01--Ruby Jewel Young and Ernest Orlando Emerson.
 
You have my admiration for continuing to try to document this huge family.  :)  If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me.  I continue to add to my database as new things emerge.
 
With kindest regards,
Barbara Emerson Sharp
Hamilton, VA
 



Descendants of Harvey Humphrey Young


 
24.00--Margaret Young , b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. John Bird Young (b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); at least 1 ch.

25.00--Harvey Humphrey Young, b. btw. 1831-1834 in Mill Creek, Kanawha Co., VA; d. 1917 in Kanawha Co., WV; bd. unk.; m. 29 Dec 1869 in Kanawha Co., WV, to Ann/Nancy 'Annie' Eliza Ferrell (b. 4 Apr 1854 in Kanawha Co., VA; d. bet. 1887-1910 in Kanawha Co., WV); at least 8 ch.

26.01--Staunton William Young, b. 5 Dec 1871 in Elk Twp., Kanawha Co., WV; d. 11 Feb 1942 in McMillan Hospital, Charleston, Kanawha Co., WV, (per Cert. of Death #1693 signed by Dr. McClure); m. 2 Aug 1896 in Kanawha Co., WV, by H. C. Howard [according to Kanawha Co. Marriage Record per Charlotte Thurston] to Lillie/Lilly Belle Copen (b. Oct 1875 in Malden Dist., Kanawha Co., WV; d. 4 Oct 1926 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV [recorded in the Kanawha Co. Register of Deaths, Bk. 2, p. 3, per Charlotte Thurston]; bd. unk.); at least 10 ch.

27.01--Ruby Jewel Young, b. 11 Sep 1914 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV (delivered by Dr. McClure); d. 16 Apr 1979, Fairfax Co., VA; bd. unk.; m. 1 Oct 1932 in Charleston, Kanawha Co., WV, by Rev. Earl G. Hissom, Kanawha Co. Book 11/169 [per Charlotte Thurston] to Ernest Orlando Emerson 1911 - 1997 b: September 11, 1911 in Alexandria, VA d: August 28, 1997 in Burke, Fairfax Co., VA
28.01--Living Emerson 1934 - b: January 11, 1934 in St. Francis Hospital, Charleston, Kanawha Co., WV
28.01--Living Emerson 1938 - b: April 10, 1938 in Charleston, Kanawha Co., WV
28.01--Living Emerson 1951 - b: August 30, 1951 in Alexandria Hospital, Alexandria, VA
27.02--Wesley Harvey Young 1897 - 1979 b: January 9, 1897 in Villa, Kanawha Co., WV d: November 18, 1979 in Melbourne, FL.... +Mary Leftwich 1897 - 1949 b: March 18, 1897 in WV d: August 2, 1949 in Coal Fork, Kanawha Co., WV m: July 1917
28.01--Ralph Young 1919 - 1920 b: November 13, 1919 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV d: October 7, 1920 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV
28.01--Janice Young 1921 - 2001 b: March 23, 1921 d: March 11, 2001 in Florida...... +Clifford Kauff 1910 - 1999 b: March 11, 1910 d: July 8, 1999 m: November 27, 1943
28.01--Eva Young 1923 - 2002 b: June 16, 1923 in WV d: March 18, 2002 in Florida...... +Ernest C. Dean 1921 - 1996 b: March 10, 1921 d: May 1996 in Florida m: July 26, 1947
28.01--Marian Ann Young 1926 - 2006 b: May 5, 1926 in Snow Hill, Kanawha Co., WV d: September 26, 2006 in Red Bluff, CA...... +Living Petersen 1923 - b: Abt. 1923 m: June 13, 1945
28.01--Living Young 1931 - b: January 1, 1931 in Coal Fork, Kanawha Co., WV
27.03--William Cecil Young 1900 - 1964 b: November 6, 1900 in WV d: September 4, 1964 in Kanawha Co., WV.... +Alberta "Bertie" Hysell 1901 - b: 1901 m: Abt. 1922
28.01--Jane Elizabeth Young 1923 - 2003 b: July 20, 1923 d: December 4, 2003...... +William Costello
28.01--Norma Lee Young 1927 - 2005 b: 1927 in Kanawha Co., WV d: September 17, 2005 in Takoma Park, Montgomery Co., MD...... +Louis Joseph deSabla, Sr. 1922 - 2000 b: January 4, 1922 d: April 18, 2000
27.04--Mary Belle Young 1902 - 1980 b: September 14, 1902 in Eagle, Kanawha Co., WV d: May 7, 1980 in Kanawha Co., WV.... +Charles Edward Blankenship 1901 - 1970 b: May 27, 1901 d: July 31, 1970 in Cheshire, Meigs Co., OH m: November 15, 1920
27.05--Wollie Young 1904 - 1984 b: November 23, 1904 in Montgomery, WV (twin of Wallace) d: April 29, 1984 in Youngstown, Mahoning Co., OH.... +Rhoda Irene Norvell 1904 - 1989 b: August 16, 1904 in WV d: November 7, 1989 in Youngstown, Mahoning Co., OH m: May 16, 1927
28.01--Lillie Young 1928 - b: January 28, 1928 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV...... +Lucky Silman
*2nd Husband of Lillie Young:...... +Walter Ray Dudley m: Bet. 1951 - 1955
28.01--Roy Andrew Young 1929 - 2003 b: August 16, 1929 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV d: March 2003 in Seattle, WA
28.01--Billie Jean Young 1932 - 2005 b: January 6, 1932 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV d: 2005
28.01--Living Young 1934 - b: March 8, 1934 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV
28.01--Living Young 1936 - b: October 8, 1936 in Putney, Kanawha Co., WV
28.01--Living Young 1939 - b: January 5, 1939
27.06--Wallace Young 1904 - 1906 b: November 23, 1904 d: May 14, 1906
27.07--Staunton Calvert Young 1906 - 1984 b: October 19, 1906 in WV d: January 2, 1984 in Kanawha Co., WV
27.08--Hayes/Hayse Young 1909 - 1975 b: November 11, 1909 d: March 11, 1975 in Charleston, Kanawha Co., WV
27.09--Orville/Orvel Young 1911 - 1913 b: March 6, 1911 d: October 11, 1913
27.10--James Young 1917 - 1986 b: January 31, 1917 in Kanawha Co., WV d: October 1986 in Charleston or Malden, Kanawha Co., WV.... +Vada Norvell
26.02--Cora A. Young 1873 - 1944 b: August 7, 1873 in WV d: Aft. 1944 in WV... +Walter J. Walton 1874 - 1936 b: March 9, 1874 d: December 31, 1936 in WV m: Abt. 1896
26.03--Hoy O. Young 1877 - 1971 b: July 20, 1877 d: February 1971 in Scott Depot, Putnam Co., WV... +Florence Allman
27.01--William Young 1900 - b: Abt. 1900
26.04--Esther Young 1878 - b: Abt. 1878 in Kanawha Co., WV... +William (Bill) Countz
26.05--Coy A. Young 1881 - b: Abt. 1881 in WV (date is based on the census of 1900, 1910, 1920)
26.06--Harvey Hudson Hamilton Young 1883 - 1975 b: February 18, 1883 in WV d: October 1975 in Kanawha Co., WV... +Olive Mae Buckley 1892 - 1960 b: 1892 in WV d: 1960 in Handley, WV
27.01--Nancy Jane Young 1912 - 1923 b: January 15, 1912 in WV d: May 1, 1923 in Ripley, Jackson Co., WV
27.02--Harvey Samuel Young 1913 - 1930 b: May 24, 1913 in WV d: June 9, 1930 in Cabin Creek District, Ward, Kanawha Co., WV
26.07--James Corbett Young 1886 - 1951 b: February 20, 1886 d: June 22, 1951
26.08--Chilton 'Harvey' Young 1887 - 1974 b: May 13, 1887 in Kanawha Co., WV d: April 3, 1974 in Indian River Co., FL... +Lucy Skiles




From: "Barbara Sharp"
Date: June 7, 2009
To: "John Gwin" <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: Re: More Young Family Entries

John, I noticed you also are amassing data on the Morris family. 

Would you like for me to send my Descendant Tree for William "the Pioneer" Morris?

He's my ancestor via Henry Morris and Mary 'Polly' Bird/Byrd and their daughter Sarah 'Sally' who married Charles Francis Young, the latter being the parents of John Bird Young.

Here's what I have on John Bird Young and Margaret Young:

Descendants of John Bird Young

1   John Bird Young, b: Bet. 1795-1798 in Greenbrier Co., VA; d: 1880;
m: 14 Aug 1816 in Kanawha Co., VA to Margaret Young (b: 18 Jan 1794 in Fort Lee, town at the mouth of Elk, Kanawha Co., VA ; d: 2 Sep1864 in Falling Rock, Kanawha Co., WV); 7 ch.

2      Harvey Humphrey Young, b: Bet. 1831 - 1834 in Mill Creek, Kanawha Co., VA    d: 1917 in Kanawha Co., WV  +Ann 'Annie' Eliza Ferrell  (b: April 4, 1854 in Kanawha Co., VA    d: Bet. 1887 - 1910 in )  

2      Lucinda Young, b: Abt. 1818 in Kanawha Co., VA; m: October 17, 1836 in Kanawha Co., VA   +Archibald Price    1815 -    b: Abt. 1815 in VA       

2      Harriet Young, b: November 1819 in Kanawha Co., VA; m: August 23, 1839 in Kanawha Co., VA +Samuel Matheny

2      James Stroters Young, b: August 1822 in Kanawha Co., VA    d: 1867; m: October 8, 1850 in Kanawha Co., VA    +Mary Elizabeth Griffith    1831 -    b: November 17, 1831       

2      Sarah Ann Young, b: abt 1830 in Kanawha Co., VA  d: unk ; m: November 21, 1858 in Kanawha Co., VA +Franklin Baxter    1827 in Cooper's Creek, Kanawha Co., VA   

2      John Jacob Armstrong 'John Jake' Young, b: July 1825; m: October 17, 1850 in Kanawha Co., VA  +Julia Mary (Mae) Geary    1831 -    b: 1831 in Kanawha Co., VA

2      Nancy W. Young, b: 1829        d: August 18, 1923; m: 1868   +William Ranson   b. abt 1828                        


From: Melinda Garbacz <sissyunderscore1999atmsndotcom>
Date: October 27, 2009
To: <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: In regards to William A. Allen and wife Elizabeth

Hi John,

I saw your questions sent to Judi Brinegar posted on her website back in January. I don't know if anyone has answered your question so I just wanted to share with you what I have.
 
Elizabeth was not a Young; she was a Hayes.  Her parents were John Hayes and Elizabeth "Betsy" Naylor.  After John's death in 1836, Betsy married George Young. That is why Elizabeth and William were married at the home of George Young. This was her mother and stepfather's home.   After George died, Elizabeth's mother went on to marry a third time to Samuel Estep.  I hope this helps!
 
Best of Luck,
Melinda Patton Garbacz

From: Melinda Garbacz
Date: October 28, 2009
To: <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>
Subject: More information on the Young/Hayes families

John,

I'm sorry I think I read the post wrong and now I believe I understand that the website is yours! It is wonderful! I was wondering if you had any more information on what is suppose to be Conrad's second wife Elizabeth/Margret Hayes?

I am not sure how or where to start to keep this from being confusing. But here goes.

 
From 1810 on in the US Federal Census for Kanawha county, the following families are always together. They are listed as
 
John Young
Eleanor Niler (Naylor; widow of Stephen Naylor)
John Hays
Solomon Stricker/Strickland (Other places it is Ephraim Strickland, possibly brother or son?)
 
It is believed that these families all moved to Kanawha county together, but from where we don't know. These four families intermarried so many times that it is hard to keep up with. Of course we can trace back to where John Young came from, but to my knowledge no one can figure out where the Naylor and Hayes families came from.
 
John Hayes married Elizabeth "Betsy" Naylor who was a daughter of Stephen and Eleanor. They had a daughter Eleanor Hayes who married my 4th great grandfather William Patton. At least five of the other Hayes children married either Youngs or Stricklands.
 
So after all of that, my main goal is to find the ancestors of William Patton and of John Hayes.  After studying your website, I have a really crazy theory.
 
Is it possible that when John Hayes came to Kanawha Co., he was traveling with his sister's stepson John Young? OR were the two Johns stepbrothers? Was John Young's stepmother, Elizabeth/Margaret Hayes, only a Hayes by marriage? Could she have been John Hayes' mother instead of sister? Or could she be an aunt?? I think we might eventually find a direct relationship here. Again this is all just my crazy theory from the new info from your website.
 
Take care and I hope to hear from you soon,
Melinda Patton Garbacz