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21.00--Richard Gwin, b. est. 1745 allegedly near Jamestown, Virginia, said to be of Scotch Irish descent; s/o unk. parents; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. est. 1765 also allegedly near Jamestown, to Sarah Chesley; one known son: Isham.22.00--Isham/Isom Gwin, /pronounced EYE-sum, EYE-zum, EYE-jum, etc./, b. ca. 1770 perhaps near Jamestown; d. Dec. 1830 in Orange Co., IN; bd. unk. place in Orange Co., IN; m. ca. 1786 in Montgomery Co., VA, to Mary Canterbury (b. in VA, d/o M/M Canterbury; d. 18__ in Orange Co., IN; we once erroneously believed Mary to be a Ms. Cleveland); at least 10 children and likely 11:23.01--Polly Gwin, b. ca. 1787; m. Thomas Walker, Jr., of Blount Co., TN; [JMG Note: Children's names are from Isham's will. Also, this Thomas Walker is the brother of my ggg-grandma Jane Walker Gwin; another Walker brother, Joseph, a Blount Co. justice of the peace, issued the marriage license and performed the ceremony of his sister Jane and John Gwin.]23.02--Elizabeth Gwin, b. 1788; m. David Denton (b. 1778 in Hampshire Co., VA--now WV);
The two children in this box--William and John--do not show up in Isham's will. This once gave us reason to believe they were not his children after all. However, the seven-year gap between Elizabeth (above, b. 1788) and Virginia (below, b. 1795), coupled with Will's and John's dates of birth, a statement in a biography of one of Isham's grandchildren that Isham had TEN children, and growing amounts of other evidence, have given us sufficient reason to believe (though not prove) they are Isham's and Mary's children as well, and we present them here as such, yet with this disclaimer.
23.03--William Gwin, b. ca. 1790, probably in Crowson's Cove, Sevier Co., TN; d. unk. but after 1830 (in Alabama? Mississippi? Louisiana? Texas?); bd. unk.; m. bef. 26 Jun 1813 (probably in Blount Co. or Sevier Co., TN) to Susanah Beard; at least 11 ch. (in 1830 census of Dallas Co., AL);23.04--John Gwin, b. 7 Nov 1792 (from his gravestone--see photo) in (then) NC--per his report to the 1850, 1860, and 1870 AL Census takers of Dallas Co.--probably in "Crowson's Cove on Walden's Creek"--today's Wear's Cove on Cove Creek--in Sevier Co.;d. 7 Mar 1877 at Wilsonville, AL; m. age 19.5 on 8 Apr 1812 (original document found in Blount County Courthouse, Maryville, TN--see box below) in Blount Co., TN, by Justice of the Peace Joseph Walker (Jane's brother) to Jane "Jennie" Walker (above), (b. ca. 1794; d. at Cahaba after 16 Feb 1864 [Dallas Co., AL, Book _, p. 740, records a deed from John and Jane Gwin where they sell on 16 Feb 1864 to Conrad Hilderbrandt the east half of Lot #7 in the town of Cahaba, thus proving that Jane Gwin was alive on that day.] and after the 1866 Alabama census, but before the 1870 federal census; bd. at New Cem., Cahaba, Dallas Co., AL, beside their dau. Louisa A. Gwin McKnight--see note "I" below; d.o. Thomas Walker, Sr., and Elizabeth Magill, both of Virginia); nine children;
23.05--Virginia Jane Gwin, b. 1795; m1. (in Sevier Co., TN?) to Joseph Tipton; m2. (in IN) to Benjamin Weathers (his first wife was Ms. Bullington);23.06--Isham Gwin II, b. 1797; [JMG Note: This is probably the same Isham Gwin who, according to county records, m1. 1 Mar 1824 in Orange Co. to Betsy Snowden, since the 7 Aug 1819 Minutes of the Providence Church of Greenfield Township, Orange Co., IN, where Isham I was called to preach, state that a Snowden family were part of that congregation. We believe he m2. a Mary Likens.]
23.07--? Gwin, b. 1799, [JMG Note: COULD THIS BE CHESLEY? We have reason to believe that there was indeed a child of Isham and Mary named Chesley, named for Isham's mother's maiden name. When he was born or where he would have appeared in the birth order is beyond speculation at this point.]
23.08--Richard W. Gwin, b. ca. 1804 (age 76 in 1880 census) in TN; m. 10 or 12 (book is not clear if this is the application date or the wedding date) Apr 1824 in Harrison Co., IN (IN Bk. 2, pg. 72, says Doris Gyarmati) to Nancy Watkins (b. ca. 1807--age 73 in 1880 census--in KY; both parents b. in MD); livg. in Independence, Montgomery Co., KS, in 1880 census;
23.09--Nancy Gwin, b. 1805; m. Squire Huston; [JMG Note: In Isham's will, he clearly leaves two shares of his estate to two Hustons--Squire and J. E.--who are likely brothers who have married two of Isham's daughters. Since these are the only two daughters on our list of Isham's children unaccounted for in the will, it appears to me that these two sisters, Nancy and Sarah married those two Huston brothers. Which brother married which sister is not clear in the will; however Doris Gyarmati has that Nancy indeed married Squire--but she has that Sarah m. William, whose name does not appear in the will. For now, then, we'll leave it like this until we learn more.]
23.10--Sarah Gwin, b. 1806; m. 10 or 12 (book is not clear if this is the application date or the wedding date) Apr 1824 in Harrison Co., IN (IN Bk. 2, pg. 72, says Doris Gyarmati) to J. E. (William?) Huston; [JMG Note: See note immediately above for Nancy and Squire.]
23.11--Manerva Gwin, b. 1807; d. after 1850; bd. unk.; m. Elijah Wright; [JMG Note: Elijah's name from Doris Gyarmati (see note in 1850 census chart below).]
23.04--John Gwin, b. 7 Nov 1792 (from his gravestone--see photo) in (then) NC--per his report to the 1850, 1860, and 1870 AL Census takers of Dallas Co.--probably in "Crowson's Cove on Walden's Creek"--today's Wear's Cove on Cove Creek--in Sevier Co.; d. 7 Mar 1877 at Wilsonville, AL; m. age 19.5 on 8 Apr 1812 (original document found in Blount County Courthouse, Maryville, TN--see box below) in Blount Co., TN, by Justice of the Peace Joseph Walker (Jane's brother) to Jane "Jennie" Walker (right), (b. ca. 1794; d. at Cahaba after 16 Feb 1864 [Dallas Co., AL, Book _, p. 740, records a deed from John and Jane Gwin where they sell on 16 Feb 1864 to Conrad Hilderbrandt the east half of Lot #7 in the town of Cahaba, thus proving that Jane Gwin was alive on that day.] but before 1870 census; bd. at New Cem., Cahaba, Dallas Co., AL, beside her dau. Louisa A. Gwin McKnight--see note "I" below; d.o. Thomas Walker, Sr., and Elizabeth Magill, both of Virginia); nine children;
24.01--Mary Gwin--b. ca.1813-1816 (33 in 1850 Census); d. aft. 1850; m1. 27 Dec. 1838 to Drury H. Roark;25.01--Walter J. Roark, b. ca. 1842 in Dallas Co., AL; d. in battle at Gettysburg, PA, 1 Jul 1863; never married; no known ch.MGR m2. on 17 May 1849 in a double wedding (with her sister Louisa who married Wm. McKnight) performed by her parents' minister, the Rev. J. L. Cotten, at her parents' home in Cahaba to a widower with children, Abel Turner (b. ca. 1800 [age 50 in the 1850 census of Dallas Co., AL]; d. unk., bd. unk.); at least one more child25.02--Annie Turner, b. ca. 1850 [age 50 in the 1850 census of Dallas Co., AL]; d. unk., bd. unk.; m. by Rev. Self at Wilsonville, Shelby Co., AL, to her first cousin, Rufus King Gwin;24.02--Thomas Gwin--b. ca. 1814-1816; data unk.
24.03--Isom Gwin, b. 17 Mar 1817 in Dallas Co., AL territory; d. 7 Dec 1853; m. Mary Burdine Wilson; MBWG m2. 28 Jan 1859 to John Steadman 24.04--William Gwin (18 Dec 1820--29 Apr 1889); m. 12 (13?) May 1842 Rosanne "Roe" Carlisle Jones Wilson
Note: Because Mary B. and Rosanne C. Wilson are sisters, descendents of brothers 4.3--Isom and 4.4--William are double cousins. For example, Barbara Ward and John M. Gwin are double 4th cousins.
24.05--Sarah Gwin, b. ca. 1826; d. 31 Mar 1885); m. 18 Mar 1841 to Louis Basset
24.06--Ann Gwin (ca. 1827--1845); m. 19 Jan 1843 to Joseph Lavalette Basset
24.07--Martha J. Gwin (ca.1828--unk).; m. 22 Apr 1847 to Jesse Comelander
24.08--Chesley R. Gwin; (ca.1828--after 1880); m1. 20 Mar 1850 Frances E."Fannie" Bell; m2. a widow, Mrs. Paralee (nee unk.) Blevins
24.09--Louisa A. Gwin; (ca. 1829-30--b. bef. 1830 census); d. unk.; bd. at New Cemetery, Cahawba, AL, beside her mother; m1?. Mr. Gaviness; m2. on 17 May 1849 Mr. Wm. (G. or J.) McKnight.
In July 2003, in the vertical files of the Record Archives in the basement of the Blount County Courthouse, Maryville, TN, and with the assistance of Archives Director Ms. Jackie Glenn, I saw, held, and photocopied the original marriage license for John Gwin and Jane Walker, a 6.5" x 8" document on heavy paper, transcribed here as follows: State of Tennessee } To any regular Minister of the Gospel
Blount County } having the Care of Souls or any justice
of the peace for Said County, Greeting:
By full power & authority In me vested I authorise and
Empower you or any of you to Celebrate & perform the rights (sic)
of marriage between John Guinn (sic) & Jane Walker, he
having given bond & Security as the Law Directs.Given under my hand at Office this 8th Day ofOn the back of this document is evidence of where it was folded in half and in half again, both vertical folds, then in half a third time horizontally to make a package about 2" x 3.25" and labeled on the outside:
April 1812 & 36 year of Our Independance(sic)J. Houston, clk
By his Depty (sic) Wm. LowryLicence
John Guinn
&
Jane Walker*
Apl 1812Also on the back, legible after unfolding the last two folds, is the following undated statement in a different hand:
The within named persons
married by meJoseph WalkerLater that same day, in the Blount Co. Public Library, I met Dr. Elmer Mize, retired Professor of History (Univ of Tenn., Knoxville), genealogist, and my fifth cousin through the Walkers (Jane's parents), and was told by him that the lack of a second date indicated that the marriage took place the same day the license was issued.
Justice of the Peace
A photo of John's gravestone at the Wilsonville Cem., Shelby Co., AL, was sent to me Sep 2001 by Mary Daniel (who married John's descendent) and reads as follows:JOHN GWIN DIED MAR. 7, 1877. AGED 84 YRS. 4 MOS.
She also sent photos of other Gwin tombstones there. Thank you, Mary, for sending all these photos!
And in January 2002 and again in July 2003, I got to visit the Wilsonville Cemetery myself and see these graves. What a treat! I also visited the cemeteries at Cahaba and saw John's wife Jane's grave, confirming that she died and was buried there. Jane's marker reads, simply:
IN MEMORY OF JANE GWIN
Click here to see these and other Gwin family gravestone photos.
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Click here to see abstracts and transcriptions of some
land deeds
and other mortgages
by Gwin family members..s
Thanks to Ms. Linda Derry, Director and Resident Archaeologist for the Cahawba Project, we now have many transcribed pages of the diary of Rev. James Cotten, pastor of the church in Cahaba in which John and Jane Gwin and their son, William, and William's wife Roe, were very active.
U.S. Census of Dallas Co., Alabama, Cahawba Town, 1860
I...In
January 2002, I drove
from Cahaba,
AL, where I'd found the graves of Jane Gwin, Louisa A.
(Gwin)
McKnight, and William McKnight, and I met Cousin Jack
Vardaman
in Birmingham, AL, where he had just finished copying some data for me
from the library there: according to the 1860 Dallas Co. Census, we know that
on 31
Jul 1860 wagon maker John Gwin, 68, and Jane Gwin, 66,
were
still living in Cahaba in the home of Mr. W. G. Grice, 32, a
carpenter
from SC, and his wife Eliza, 20, of AL. Living with them in the
same residence was Mr. J. W. Roark, 15, and Ms. Elizabeth
Comelander,
15, both of AL. He also found that W. G. Grice had
married Eliza
A. Ethridge on 29 Jul 1859, only a year before the census report. I
earlier speculated that some disease
had
earlier
killed John's and Jane's daughters 24.02--Mary Gwin Roark Turner
and
24.06--Martha J. Gwin Comelander,
and that their respective
children Walter
J. Roark and Elizabeth Comelander, along with the
children's
grandparents, John and Jane Gwin, were also ill and under the
care
of the Grices. But now we know that
the Comelanders were alive in 1870 and living in Louisiana, so
Elizabeth may have been living with the Grices to help them care for
her grandparents. J...We know that Ms. Linda Derry,
archaeologist and Cahawba
Project Director, wrote a letter 2 Feb 1992 to my now-late cousin, Roy
L. Smith of Crowley, TX, in which she included a map of the town
marked
off in lot numbers and street names. Linda and others have been
able
to calculate that John and Jane owned the home located on lot
317
on the northwest corner of Oak and First South Streets, and that John's
wheelwright shop was located on the southwest corner of Mulberry and
1st
North Streets on lot 7. for all you have done and are still doing, Linda, to help
all of us descendants
of Cahabans learn more about our roots!
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Meet John's and Jane's Nine Known Children!
Here they are in summary--birth order is believed to be correct:
24.01--Mary Gwin--b. ca.1813-1816 (33 in 1850 Census)d. unk.; m1. 27 Dec. 1838 to Drury H. Roark; m2. on 17 May 1849 to Mr. Abel Turner
24.02--Thomas Gwin--b. ca. 1814-1816; data unk.
24.03--Isom Gwin, b. 17 Mar 1817 in Dallas Co., AL territory; d. 7 Dec 1853; m. Mary Burdine Wilson; MBWG m2. 28 Jan 1859 to John Steadman
24.04--William Gwin (18 Dec 1820--29 Apr 1889); m. 12 (13?) May 1842 Rosann "Roe" Carlisle Jones Wilson
24.05--Sarah Gwin, b. ca. 1826; d. 31 Mar 1885); m. 18 Mar 1841 to Louis Basset
24.06--Ann Gwin (ca. 1827--1845); m. 19 Jan 1843 to Joseph Lavalette Basset
24.07--Martha J. Gwin (ca.1828--unk).; m. 22 Apr 1847 to Jesse Comelander
24.08--Chesley R. Gwin; (ca.1828--after 1880); m1. 20 Mar 1850 Frances E. "Fannie" Bell; m2. a widow, Mrs. Blevins
24.09--Louisa A. Gwin; (ca. 1829-30--b. bef. 1830 census); m1?. Mr. Gaviness; m2. on 17 May 1849 Mr. Wm. G. (or J.) McKnight.
And here they are in more detail:
24.01--Mary Gwin--b. 1817 in Dallas Co., AL (she is 33 in the 1850 census); d. unk., but prob. before 1860, since her daughter Anna Turner is living with her uncle and aunt then--(i.e., William and Louisa Gwin McKnight--see 4.9 below); m1. 27 Dec. 1838 (DCAMR, 1818-1918* also says 27 Dec 1838) in Dallas Co. (prob. Cahaba) to Drury Hampton Roark (b. 1812 in SC; d. 1846 in Dallas Co., AL; s/o Jesse Vaughn Roark and Nancy Ann Morris); one child:25.01--Walter J. Roark; b. ca. 1842, Dallas Co., AL; age eight in the 1850 census and living with Abel and Mary (Roark, nee Gwin) Turner; but listed as age 15 in the 1860 Cahaba census and living with John and Jane in the Grice home then; enlisted in CSA 10 Apr 1861 at Cahaba, AL; was killed at the battle of Gettysburg 1 Jul 1863 at age 20 or 21;m2. on 17 May 1849 in a double ceremony with sister Louisa by Rev. Cotten at (prob.) John's home to Abel Turner, the latter listed in the 1850 census at age 50 as a carpenter b. in NC and owning property valued at eight hundred dollars; also living in Turner's home in the 1850 census are his (second) wife Mary, 33; their daughter Anna, 4 mo.; and her son Walter J. Roark, 8.25.02--Anna Turner, b. ca. June/July 1850; in the 1860 census, she is age 10 and living with her uncle and aunt, Louisa and Will McKnight in Cahaba; in the 1870 census, she is age 19 and living with her uncle and aunt, William and Roe Gwin in Wilsonville; m. their son and her own first cousin, Rufus King Gwin; 3 ch.;[JMG NOTE: Some of the info on Mary was provided me today--3 Aug 2000--by Gene W. Rogers (grogers@mcia.com) who, with many others, is researching this Roark family. And today, 13 Feb 2001, I found even more info at a new-found cousin's webpage, http://www.phaenom.com/roark/jesse.htm#top. ]
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545 | Abel Turner | 50 | M | W | Carpenter | $800 | NC | |
Mary Turner | 33 | F | W | AL | Mary Gwin, widow of Drury Roark, now married to Abel Turner; Mary's end is unk. to me, for in ten years her only son Walter (below) will be living with her parents in the home of another couple (the Grices) and her only daughter, Anna, will be living with her sister Louisa and her husband, William McKnight. | |||
Anna Turner | 4/12 | F | W | AL | Annie Turner, who will marry her first cousin, Rufus King Gwin, and raise her family in Florida where she'll die and be buried. | |||
Wr. J. Rowark | 8 | M | W | AL | Walter Roark, Mary's son by her first marriage, who will die in 13 years at Gettysburg while fighting for the CSA. |
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575 / 567 | McKnight | W. I. (J.?) | 42 | M | W | Printer | -- | $600 | SC | |
McKnight | Louisa | 26 | F | W | AL | |||||
McKnight | Elizabeth | 13 | F | W | AL | I speculate that this is either William's daughter by an earlier marriage or his younger sister. | ||||
Turner | Anna | 10 | F | W | AL | Somewhere between 1850 and 1860, Mary and Abel must have died | ||||
Brown | Z. | 21 | M | W | GA |
24.02--Thomas Gwin--I had seen absolutely nothing on this son but his name, but he was in Uncle James' notes, so I included him. And when I later saw John Gwin's family in the 1830 census, there were indeed four sons. Accounting for the other three, that meant Thomas had to be born between 1814 and 1815. Then I read a copy of a letter that Linda Derry, Archaeologist and Director at Old Cahawba, had written to my now-late cousin Roy Lester Smith, in which she said that a Thomas Gwin was mentioned (in a news article?) as having helped put out a fire in a lumber mill in Orrville, Dallas Co, in 1859. If this is he, he'd likely have been in his mid 30's at the time.
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24.03--Isom
Gwin, b. 17 Mar 1817 in Dallas Co., AL territory (age 33
in 16 Nov, 1850 census of Pences or Athens Bt., Dallas Co., AL); d. 7
Dec
1853, age 36, only; served Dallas Co. for several years as Justice of
the
Peace; m. Mary
Burdine Wilson (sister of William's wife Roe, below) in
Cahaba; [MBWG m2. 28 Jan 1859 to John Steadman according
to LDS IGI file]; on 16 Nov 1850, Isham and Mary were living next door
to Mary's parents, Nathaniel
B. and Jane Wilson, and next door (on the other side) to Jesse
Rasco, 38, of Kentucky, who was living alone; 2 children,
one of whom is adopted;
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Res./Fam. Last Name First Name Age Sex Race Occupation Real
Prop.Pers.
Prop.POB JMGComments 736 / 736 Gwinn I. 33 M W Farmer $900
AL Isom (spelled this way because of the spelling on his and his daughter Mary Jane's tombstone--see below) Gwin
Gwinn Mary B. 34 F W
SC Mary Burdine Wilson Gwin, daughter of Nathaniel Burdine Wilson and Jane Jones, my ggg-grandparents, and sister of Roseanne Carlisle Jones Wilson, my gg-grandma.
Gwinn Mary J. 12 F W
AL Mary Jane Gwin, wife-to-be of William J. Smith; she is buried in the cemetery sw of Orrville across the road (Co. Rd. 21) from the old St. Luke's Episcopalean church that once stood in Cahaba; mother-to-be of Robert Isom Smith, her only child.
Gwinn Martha R. 6 F W
AL Martha Roseanne Gwin, who will marry first Madison "Matt" Holley and second Bryant Brown Lester.
U.S. Census of Dallas Co., Alabama, Orrville Beat, Orrville, 25 Jul 1860
Res./Fam. Last Name First Name Age Sex Race Occupation Real
Prop.Pers.
Prop.POB JMGComments 437 / 429 Steadman John 59 M W Clergy (MP) $9,400 $30,410 GA Rev. John Steadman, most likely the pastor of the church Isom and Mary attended in Athens and who most likely preached Isom's funeral. When his wife died, he married Isom's widow, Mary. The fact that this is Orrville Beat (post office is Orrville) does not mean they lived in Orrville, though that is possible. They may have been living still in the Athens parsonage of the Methodist Episcopal church at what is now Martin's Station.
Steadman M. B. 43 F W
SC Mary Burdine Wilson Gwin Steadman, widow of Isom Gwin.
Walker J. F. 27 M W Farmer $1,000
AL
Walker E. M. 26 F W
AL
Walker J. B. 5 M W
AL
Walker L. E. 3 F W
AL
25.01--Mary Jane Gwin, b. 31 Oct1838 (age 12 in 16 Nov, 1850 census of Pences or Athens Bt., Dallas Co., AL, but age 24 in the 1860 census) date taken from gravestone; m. 22 Dec 1853 (according to LDS IGI file and gravestone) to William J. Smith (b. ca. 1833--age 27 in the 1860 census); d. 17 Jul 1871, age 32 years, 8 months, 17 days; bd. north of Co. Rd. 21 across from the old Cahaba Episcopal church less than a mile from Hwy. 22 south of Orrville in Dallas Co., AL; one child;
25.02--Martha Rosanna "Mattie" Gwin, b. 5 Apr 1843 (but gravestone says 1844) in Dallas Co.; d. 15 Sep 1923 (but gravestone says 14 Sep) at age 80 of heart failure in Perry Co., AL, where she had lived 14 years (according to death certificate); bd. 16 Sep 1923 by J. A. Bice at Mars Hill Cem. near Marion, Perry Co., AL (gravestone is reported to say: "Lewis Independent Cavalry, from 1860 to 1865, CSA, 1833-1873"; lived and died at Perry Ridge community, Hamburg, AL, near Marion; an uncle was a Dr. [must be Isham Griffin] Wilson of Demopolis. [John M. Gwin Note: My double-fourth cousin Barbara Ward, who descends from Martha and second husband Bryant, once thought that Martha was adopted. Thanks to some of Barbara's excellent sleuthing, however, we're all now certain that Martha is the natural daughter of Isom and Mary.]
m1. 7 Sep 1860 in Athens, AL, for 12+ years to Madison "Matt" Holley (b. 7 Aug 1827, d. 6 Dec. 1872, in Marion, Perry Co., AL; bd. Mars Hill Cem. near Marion, Perry Co., AL.; six children by Matt Holley, (only three--Minnie, Carlos, and Clarance--survived to the 1880 census) and four by B.B. Lester;
MRGH m2. 6 Jan l881 (her age was 38, his 30) at the home of the bride in Perryridge, Perry Co., by Rev. A. J . Kynard, to Bryant Brown Lester, (b. 8 Mar 1851 at Perryridge, Perry Co., AL; s/o Thomas P. Lester and Sarah Ann Brown and brother of Mrs. Maggie Lester Henley who was living in Marion at the time of BBL's death, according to his obit. in the Selma Times Standard of Weds., 19 Jan 1941; d. 28 Jan 1941, age 89, at Hamburg, Perry Co., AL; bd. Mars Hill Cem., near Marion, Perry Co., AL; spent his entire life in Perry Co. as a farmer, according to his obit.); four children by Bryant Lester, 10 total;
U.S. Census of Dallas Co., Alabama, Athens Beat, Liberty Hill Post Office, 5 Jul 1860
Res./Fam. Last Name First Name Age Sex Race Occupation Real
Prop.Pers.
Prop.POB JMG
Comments267 / 262 Smith W. J. 27 M W Blacksmith $1200 $10,453 TN
Smith M. J. 24 F W Keeping house
AL
Smith R. I. 4 M W
AL Robert Isom Smith, s/o Wm. and Mary Jane, who will be their only surviving child at her death in 1871, implied from her gravestone.
Cobb J. H. 32 M W Clerk
NY
Cobb A. H. 23 F W
AL
Bowden J. B. 19 M
AL
U.S. Census of Dallas Co., Alabama, Liberty Hill Post Office, 26 Aug 1870
Res./Fam. Last Name First Name Age Sex Race Occupation Real
Prop.Pers.
Prop.POB Can't
ReadCan't
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Comments284/289 Smith W. J. 38 M W Blacksmith $1200 $800 TN checked checked William J. Smith, who is a business partner with his wife's uncle, Chesley R. Gwin (see below)
Smith M. J. 30 F W Keeping house
AL checked checked Mary Jane Gwin, d/o Isom Gwin and Mary Burdine Wilson
Smith R. I. 14 M W Attends school
AL
Robert Isom Smith, s/o Wm. and Mary Jane, who will be their only surviving child at her death in 1871, implied from her gravestone.
Wilson N. B. 77 M W
SC checked checked Nathaniel Burdine Wilson, Mary Jane's maternal grandfather
Stedman M. B. 50 F W
SC checked checked Mary Burdine Wilson Gwin Steadman, d/o of NB Wilson (above) and widow of Isom Gwin AND, it appears, of Rev. Steadman also!
Smith M. J., Jr. (sic) 16 F (sic) W
AL checked checked If this is Mary Jane Smith and a daughter of William and Mary Jane, why is she not listed in the 1860 census (above)?
Smith Ida 6 F W
AR (sic)!
Jennings Margaret 45 F B Domestic servant
VA checked checked Probably (from her age) a former slave; was she owned by Isom Gwin? 24.04--William Gwin (middle name unk.)--My great-great grandpa!--b. 18 Dec 1820 at Cahaba, AL; d. 29 Apr 1889 at Wilsonville, AL, bd. there also; m. 12 May 1842 in Cahaba to Roseann "Roe" Carlisle Jones Wilson (sister of Isham's wife Mary B., above--Roe b. 22 Aug. 1822, d. 29 Mar 1907 at Tampa, FL; bd. at Wilsonville, AL); according to Rev. Cotten's diary entries, William and Roe and his parents were very active in the founding of and service in the Methodist church in Cahaba; William and Roe and their family show up in Oakleyville, Bibb Co., AL, in the 1860 census, and Linda Derry's 1992 letter to Roy Smith says that she has "an advertisement of Oakley & Gwin's Lumber Mill on the Selma and Tennessee Railroad";
[JMG NOTE: Roe died in Tampa, FL, where she likely had been living at the home of her granddaughter, Mary Alice Lochridge and MAL's husband William Russell Ham--see notes on this family at my Lochridge page.]25.01--Mary Ann Elizabeth Gwin b. 23 April 1843; d. 23 Jan 1882; m. 25 Jan 1866, Dallas Co., AL, to Robert Guy Lochridge
25.02--Martha Jane Gwin (1845-1847); -- died as infant
25.03--William Sutton Gwin, b. 5 Jun 1848, at Cahaba, AL; d. 11 Sep 1916 at Wilsonville; m. 2 Dec 1868 to Ida E. Basset
25.04--John Wesley Gwin, M.D. b. 15 Mar 1851; d. 29 Aug. 1877, age 26;
25.05--Rufus King Gwin b. 16 May 1853; d. 20 Aug 1927; m. Ann Turner
25.06--Lucy Marcella Gwin b. 1 Dec 1855; d. 22 Feb 1871, age 16
25.07--Isham Griffin Gwin, Sr. b. 25 Sep 1858; d. 21 Dec 1919; m. 1881 to Mary Etta (Molly) Self
25.08--Thomas Wilson Gwin b. 10 Feb. 1863; d. 1877;
U.S. Census of Dallas Co., Alabama, Cahawba Beat, 4 Nov 1850
Residence Last name First name Age Sex Race Occupation Real
Prop.POB JMG
Comments547 Guinn William 29 M W Carpenter $800 AL William Gwin
Guinn Roseann 28 F W
AL Roseann Carlisle Jones Wilson Gwin
Guinn Elizabeth 7 F W
AL Mary Ann Elizabeth Gwin, bride-to-be of Robert Guy Lochridge
Guinn William 3 M W
AL William Sutton Gwin, groom-to-be of Ida Eliza Basset
24.05--Sarah Gwin b. ca. 1826--age 34 in 1860 Census--see record under Louis' name on Basset page; d. Tues., 31 Mar 1885 in Waco, TX, at her daughter Emma McCulloch's home); m. 18 Mar 1841 [date from LDS IGI file and Dallas Co. AL Marriage Records 1818-1918 (compiled by McLaughlin & Vintson)--that makes her m. at age 15 or so] to Louis Basset (b. 27 Feb 1814; d. unk.); 2 ch.;25.01--Emma Basset, b. 3 Aug 1843 Tuscaloosaa, AL; m. 22 May 1867 Champe Carter McCullough (1841-1907); ten children24.06--Maryann "Ann" Gwin b. ca. 1827 (source: process of elimination based on the ages of the nine children of John and Jane in the 1830 census); d. 1845; m. 19 Jan 1843 to Joseph Lavalette Basset; (b. 25 Nov 1821 in England; d. 27 Aug 1865, age 43--killed by an exploding mill rock while running a sawmill in Wilsonville, AL); Joseph at age 28 in the 1850 census is now married to a second wife, Ms. Louisa (Catherine High Blann) Basset (age 23 and native of SC); Ann and Joseph have one child; Louisa gives Joseph four more for a total of five for him;25.02--Ann Adelia Basset b. 1846, died young
25.01--Emily Basset, b. ca. 1844 (age 6 in 1850 census); d, unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.24.07--Martha J. (I?). Gwin, b. ca.1828 (age 22 on 7 Nov 1850 in census); d. unk.; m. 22 Apr 1847 (DCAMR, 1818-1918* concurs) in Dallas Co., AL, to Jesse Comelander, (spelled Comalander on Amanda's gravestone and in Cotten's diary, below) who was first married to Amanda J. Harris [b. 13 Sep 1824; d. 3 Jul 1846 according to her gravestone at the Old Cahaba Cem.] on 26 Oct 1844 (this from the book of DALLAS COUNTY, ALABAMA, MARRIAGES, MARRIAGE BOOK I: 1818 - 1845, pg 281);U.S. Census of Dallas Co., Alabama, Cahawba Beat, 4 Nov 1850
Residence Last name First name Age Sex Race Occupation Real
Prop.POB JMG
Comments548 Basset Joseph 28 M W Carpenter $1500 England
Basset Louisa 23 F W
SC Louisa Catherine High (widow of Sandford Blann) Basset, probable sister of Mary High, same residence, below
Basset Emily 6 F W
AL Emily H. Basset--Daughter and only child of Ann Gwin Basset and Joseph Basset.
Basset Margaret 1 F W
AL Margaret Revel Basset, b. 29 Sep 1849; (baptised 21 Apr 1850 at Cahawba by Rev. James L. Cotten); d. 18 Dec 1903, age 53; never married; no known ch.
High Mary 15 F W
AL Probable sister of Louisa; both grew up right down the street from the Blanns and the Gwins
Bridger Henry 19 M W Carpenter
England
[JMG NOTE: The existence of this seventh child of John and Jane Gwin came as a complete surprise to me, as Uncle James did not have any records of her. Barbara Smith had sent the name with a summary of her late husband Roy's work on the family, the printout dated 18 Sep 1995; therefore, evidently Roy had known about Martha for some time. But none of the documentation was included, so I had no idea whence it came. The existence of Jesse Comelander was documented, however, appearing in the Wed., 12 Dec 1849 entry of Rev. Cotten's diary where he records, regarding one of the prisoners who was to be executed by hanging that day, that "His hands were bound behind him in an unfeeling manner by Jesse Comalander." As this event occurred some two and a half years after the alleged marriage of Jesse and Martha, Cotten would have had no cause to mention as fact that Jesse was married to John Gwin's daughter Martha. And now, 25 Oct 2001, I read in the 1850 Dallas Co. census that Jesse Comelander, age 46, a mechanic, and native of SC, did indeed reside at residence 560 (valued at 2800 dollars) with a woman, "Martha J.", age 22 of AL (young enough to be his daughter!) and five children: J.W., a male age 11; M. J., a female age 8; Elizabeth, age 6; G. P., a male age 3; and Jesse, a male age 1. But she is John and Jane's daughter, and she is stepmom to at least two of the five children--and possibly twin sister to Chesley, also listed in the same census as age 22!]
5.1--J. W. Comelander, a stepson to Martha, b. ca. 1839 to Jesse and Amanda (age 11 in 1850 census);[John M. Gwin NOTE: The LDS IGI file (of legendary inaccuracy!), while listing correctly our Martha J. Gwin marrying on 22 Apr 1847 in Dallas Co. to Jesse Comelander, ALSO LISTS a Martha J. Gwin marrying on 28 Oct 1847--only 6 months later--in Dallas Co. to a Mr. Richard West!]
5.2--M. J. Comelander, a stepdaughter to Martha, b. ca. 1842 to Jesse and Amanda (age 8 in 1850 census);
5.3--Elizabeth Comelander, a stepdaughter to Martha, b. ca. 1844 to Jesse and Amanda (age 6 in 1850 census);
5.4--G. P. Comelander, a stepson or son to Martha, b. ca. 1847 to Jesse and Amanda? (age 3 in 1850 census);
5.5--Jesse Comelander, a son to Martha, b. ca. 1849 (age 1 in 1850 census);5._--T. E. Comalander, b. unk.--no birth date listed on gravestone; d.28 Jun 1846, 5 days before the death of Jesse's first wife Amanda Harris Comalander; bd. in the Old Cahaba Cem., Cahaba, AL; this could be (but not necessarily is) Jesse's child, but not Martha's; also bd. there are a woman likely to be Jesse's sister and a child, b. 5 days before the "sister" dies; therefore, she is likely the mother of this child.
U.S. Census of Dallas Co., Alabama, Cahawba Beat, 4 Nov 1850
24.08--Chesley ("Chess"--although Rev. Cotten consistently but mistakenly calls him Charley, according to the early transcriptions of his diary) R. Gwin; b. ca.1828 (age 22 on 7 Nov 1850 in census, but age 33 on 5 Jul 1860 census); m1. 20 Mar 1850 at Bogue Chitto, Dallas Co., AL, to Mary Frances E. "Fannie" Bell, (b. ca. 1830--listed on 7 Nov 1850 census as age 20--she and C.R. Gwin are the only two people living in the home of John and Jane Gwin in that census; listed on 7 Jul 1860 census as M. F. Gwin, age 29--could her full name have been Mary Frances Elizabeth Bell?); allegedly daughter of a "Hard-shell" Baptist preacher; raised a big family (and Alice Foster-Blevins' Rootsweb site states that two of these children were a son, Chesley, and a daughter, Fannie, although no other info is listed); 3 children listed on the 1860 census (see below); m2. a widow, Mrs. Blevins. In her 1992 letter to Roy L. Smith, Linda Derry said she had "some ads from the Dallas Gazette that mention the Wagonshop of William J. Smith and Chesley Gwin in Liberty Hill;" and while the only Liberty Hill now in Alabama is in the northeast corner of the state, my cemetery records book of Dallas Co. shows a Liberty cemetery about a mile south of White's Bluff on County Road 2--this would be about ten miles southwest of Cahaba, a very likely candidate for the site of this wagon mill. And sure enough, the census of 5 July 1860 of Liberty Hill, Athens Beat, Dallas Co., AL, lists the C.R. Gwin family as living in residence #266, with the family of Wm. J. Smith living next door in #267. The 1860 Census of Athens Beat, Liberty Hill Post Office, Dallas Co., AL, on 5 July lists C.R. Gwin, 33, wagonmaker, with real estate valued at $800 and personal property at $6425, b. in AL; wife M.F. Gwin, 29, b. in AL; and children W.J. Gwin, 8, male; J.J. Gwin, 6, male; and Enoch Gwin, 2, male, all b. in AL. The 1880 Census of Dallas Co., AL, lists C. R. Gwin, age 53, a white, married, male, living in Browns, AL, with his wife, P. B., age 45, and a son, C. J., age 14. I believe this is Chesley R. for at least these 3 reasons: his age matches, his wife's middle initial B. could easily be for Blevins, and Browns is only about 9 miles nw of Bogue Chitto and less than a mile e. of Belvue where Chesley's grand-nephew (and my grandfather!) James Basset Gwin was born 21 Apr 1872. Mary Bell Guin, d.o. C.R. and M.E. Guin, listed as b. 1 Mar 1856 and d. 22 Jun (no yr) is bd. in the Bell Family Cem., e. of Rt. 5 on the county rd. at Weissinger Lakes, about 3 mi. s. of Browns, Dallas Co., AL.
Residence Last name First name Age Sex Race Occupation Real
Prop.POB JMG
Comments560 Comelander Jesse 46 M W Mechanic $2800 SC A widower who evidently needed a mother for his three (if not four) children
Comelander Martha 22 F W
AL
Comelander I. W. 11 M W
AL
Comelander M. I. 8 F W
AL
Comelander Eliz. 6 F W
AL
Comelander G. P. 3 M W
AL
Comelander Jesse 1 M W
AL Possibly the only one of these five children who is the child of Martha and Jesse, as most if not all of the others are Martha's step-children, Jesse's by his first wife. [JMG NOTE: Chesley is the maiden name of the alleged patriarch Richard Gwin's wife Sarah. Uncle James used this fact to reinforce the alleged reliability of the Richard Gwin story. But Rev. Cotten calls him Charley more than once, with no mention of Chesley. Was Cotten hard of hearing, misinterpreting Chesley for Charley? Or could the full name have been Charles Chesley R. Gwin? Could the transcriber have misread Charley for Chesley? Charley, in Cotten's 22 March 1850 entry, was "getting married tonight to Miss Bell at Bogue Chitto". A few months before my dad, Adrian S. Gwin, died, I asked him where Bogue Chitto is, and he said he guessed it was somewhere on Bogue Chitto Creek, which his family had to cross every time they went from McDowell to Selma and back--he said it's pronounced BOH-guh CHIT-uh Creek). Sure enough, in January 2002, several miles west of Cahaba on County Road 180, I found this community and walked through the graveyard of one of the old churches there.]
25.01--W. J. Gwin, a son, b. ca. 1852 (age 8 in the 1860 census); d. unk.; bd. unk; m. unk; unk children;25.02--J. J. (or I.I., J.I., or I.J.) Gwin, a son, b. ca. 1854 (age 6 in the 1860 census); d. unk.; bd. unk; m. unk; unk children; [John M. Gwin Note: a John Guin, b. 24 Dec 1853, d. 4 Oct 1907, bd. in the Bell Cem. just south of Browns in northwest Dallas Co., is listed in Vital Data from Cemeteries in Dallas County, Alabama, Central Alabama Genealogical Society, 1989; therefore, I speculate that one of the initials of this second child is "J" for this same John and that the other initial is "I" for "Isom".]
25.03--Mary Bell Gwin, b. 1 Mar 1856, according to headstone; d. 22 Jun 1857; bd. in the Bell family cem. nears Browns, Dallas Co., AL (see gravestone photos);
25.04--Enoch Gwin, b. ca. 1858 (age 2 in the 1860 census); d. unk.; bd. unk; m. unk; unk children;
25.00?--C. J. Gwin, b. ca. 1866 (age14 in 1880 census); d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; (unclear at this time if he is a son of Chesley's first wife, M.F.E. Bell, or his second, P.B.); unk. ch.
U.S. Census of Dallas Co., Alabama, Cahawba Beat, Liberty Hill Post Office, 4 Nov 1850
Res. Last name First name Age Sex Race Occupation Real
Prop.POB Can't Read
or WriteJMG
Comments585 Gwin John 58 M W Wheelwright $1200 TN checked This is my ggg-grandpa, John Gwin, master wheelwright.
Gwin Jane 56 F W
TN
This is his wife, my ggg-grandma, Jane Walker Gwin.
Gwin C. R. 22 M W
AL
This is my gg-granduncle, Chesley Richard Gwin, named for his grandfather's parents, Richard Gwin and Sarah Chesley. Chesley has learned the trade of wheelwright from his father.
Gwin Frances E. 20 F W
AL
And this is his new bride, Mary Frances Elizabeth "Fannie" Bell Gwin, of Bogue Chitto, Dallas Co., AL.
U.S. Census of Dallas Co., Alabama, Athens Beat, Liberty Hill Post Office, 5 Jul 1860
Res./Fam. Last name First name Age Sex Race Occupation Real
Prop.Pers.
Prop.POB JMG
Comments266/261 Gwin C. R. 33 M W Wagon Maker $800 $6425 AL
Gwin M. F. 29 F W
AL Mary Frances "Fannie" Elizabeth Bell must have been pregnant with Little Fannie at this time. It's the last time we see her alive. We know she was alive to give birth to Little Chesley in about 1866, but what happened? Did she die in childbirth with him? She is not mentioned in the book Vital Data from Cemeteries in Dallas County, Alabama as being buried in the Bell cemetery (near Browns) where her daughter Mary Bell Gwin is buried.
Gwin W. J. 8 M W
AL
Gwin J. J. (I. I.? J.I.?) 6 M W
AL see my note in the outline above
Gwin Enoch 2 M W
AL
U.S. Census of Dallas Co., Alabama, Liberty Hill Post Office, 26 Aug 1870
Res./Fam. Last name First name Age Sex Race Occupation Real
Prop.Pers.
Prop.POB Att. sch.
w/in this yearJMG
Comments288/293 Gwin C. R. 43 M W Merchant $200 $500 AL
This is Chesley, John's and Jane's youngest son, who is now a widower--wife-of-his-youth Fannie has left him with three teens and a toddler to raise alone. It is clear that he needed some help, and the widow, Paralee Blevins, would come along just in time.
Gwin John 16 M W attends school
AL Yes
Gwin Enoch 12 M W attends school
AL Yes
Gwin Fannie 10 F W attends school
AL Yes
Gwin Charlie 4 M W
AL
This is Alice Foster-Blevins' Chesley Gwin (son of Chesley and Fannie). Please take a look at Anna Todd's email immediately following regarding this "Charlie".
Here's a most interesting e.mail regarding Chesley's son Chesley:From: Anna Todd <anna_todd2@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri Sep 12, 2003 06:17:40 PM US/Mountain
To: jmcdgwin@zianet.com
Subject: Possible match for C J Gwin born c.1866Hello John,
I happened across your web page today. I have a Chesley James Gwin in my family tree that I think might be a match to the C J Gwin you have listed on your page, although at this point I cannot say with 100 percent certainty that this person is the same C J Gwin.
I've pieced together the following information using census records and what little information my father has been able to share.
My great-grandmother's second husband was Chesley James Gwin, born c.1866 in Alabama. By my calculations (using the 1910 census) he married Elizabeth "Bessie" Flynn Boyd, born c. 1863 in Ireland, about 1902, somewhere in northern California. Prior to that (per the 1900 census) Bessie Boyd and her two sons lived in Sonora Township, Tuolumne County, California.The 1910 census shows Chesley, Bessie and Robert (my grandfather) living in Contra Costa County, in the unincorporated town of Bay Point. They had been married for 8 years at that point and Bessie had given birth to four more children (none of whom lived past early childhood.)
By 1920 they had moved to Alameda County, to the city of Berkeley. In this census Chesley is listed as Charles W. Gwin and he worked as a grocer. Bessie and Chesley appeared one more time in census records; in 1930 they were still living in Berkeley and owned the grocery store.
My father tells me that Bessie and Chesley moved in with my grandparents in the early 1930's, not long before they died (both from cancer, Bessie on 5/21/34, Chesley on 12/31/36.) They were cremated, and for years their ashes sat on a shelf in my grandparents' garage. Eventually the ashes were spread on a mountain side somewhere in Northern California (not sure of the location.) No personal effects of Bessie or Chesley remain.
I'd love to know where Chesley was between the time of the 1880 census and the time he married my great-grandmother. I doubt I'll ever be unable to uncover anything though.
I hope that this information is of use to you.
Anna Todd
CRG m2. a widow, Mrs. Paralee Blevins (nee unk.; b. ca. 1835?--age 45 in 1880 census; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m[1?]. to Mr. Blevins);
24.09--Louisa A. Gwin; b. ca. 1832 (age 18 in Nov 1850 census); d. unk.; bd. at the New Cemetery, Cahaba, Dallas Co., AL, in the Gwin plot beside her mother Jane--gravestone reads "In Memory of Louisa A. McKnight" (so it may have been placed there at a much later time than her death, though it looks to be similar to others located there); allegedly m1. Mr. Gaviness, prob. in Dallas Co.; m2. on 17 May 1849 in a double ceremony with sister Mary Gwin Roark (4.2 above) by Rev. Cotten at (prob.) John's home (it was not at the church, because Rev. Cotten's diary entry of that date states that he went from the wedding that night back to the church where he worked on his sermon) to William J. McKnight, (b. ca. 1829--the 1850 census lists him as a printer of age 21, owning property valued at seven hundred dollars, being a native of SC, and living at residence 599 with his wife, L.A., age 18; bd. in the New Cemetery, Cahaba, Dallas Co., AL, but his stone is uprooted, broken, and perhaps in the wrong place--when I was there Jan 2002, it was lying inside the fence in the Ulmer plot, some fifty yards from the grave of his wife, Louisa, whose stone, as mentioned above, is located beside that of her mother, Jane Gwin; his stone reads, in part, "WM. McKNIGH...").
Res./Fam. Last name First name Age Sex Race Occupation Real
Prop.POB JMG
Comments529 / 599 McKnight Wm. J. 21 M W Printer $700 SC I don't know why there is such a discrepancy between William's age here and in the 1860 census, below.
McKnight L. A. 18 F W
AL This is Louisa A. Gwin McKnight. We have her exact date of marriage from the diary of the pastor who married her and Bill McKnight.
U.S. Census of Dallas Co., Alabama, Cahaba Town, 2 Aug 1860
Res./Fam. Last name First name Age Sex Race Occupation Real
Prop.Pers.
Prop.POB JMG
Comments575 / 567 McKnight W. I. (J.?) 42 M W Printer -- $600 SC I don't know why there is such a discrepancy between William's age here and in the 1850 census, above.
McKnight Louisa 26 F W
AL
McKnight Elizabeth 13 F W
AL I speculate that this is either William's daughter by an earlier marriage or his younger sister.
Turner Anna 10 F W
AL Somewhere between 1850 and 1860, Mary and Abel must have died
Brown Z. 21 M W
GA
Timeline for John Gwin and Jane Walker
DATE EVENT SOURCE 1792
7 Nov 1792 John is born... Tombstone (same) ...somewhere in what is now East Tennessee but then was North Carolina (probably in the Wear Valley--aka Crowson's Cove--of Sevier County, TN) ; in July 2003 I found the 249-acre farm of John's father Isham Gwin in Sevier Co., Tennessee--the farm was surveyed and the deed granted in 1808, but Isham's family had been there prior to the survey, and I believe John was born there "in Crowson's Cove on the waters of Walden's Creek..."
ca.1796-97 Jane is born in TN, [prob. Blount Co.] 1850 US Census* 1812
8 Apr 1812 John, 19, and Jane, 15, are married by Joseph Walker, J. P., in Blount Co., TN County record; I've held this marriage license in my hand and have a copy of it as well. 1812-1814 John likely serves with a TN vol. unit in War of 1812, likely in AL against the Creek Nation ca. 1815-16 John, 23, and Jane, 19, move to Cahaba, Dallas Co., AL, almost certainly with at least one brother, Wm. Gwin 1816
1816 Cahaba area becomes one of first election precincts established MOOC, Fry** 17 Mar 1817 Possibly third child, Isom, is born in [probably Shelby Co., AL] (age 37 at date of death, 7 Dec 1853) (John = age 24) Obit, Dallas Gazette; gravestone 1817 Alabama Territory is organized (John = age 25) World Book 1817
ca. 1817 Probably first child, Mary, is born in [Dallas Co., AL] (age 33 in 1850 census) (John = age 25) USCen.1850* 1817-1820 Probably second child, Thomas, is born in Dallas Co., AL USCen.1830* 1818 Dallas Co. formed from Montgomery Co. MOOC, Fry** 1819
1819 Constitutional Convention meets in Huntsville, draws up Territory's first constitution World Book 1819 Cahaba incorporates, lays out lots, selects sites to build government buildings MOOC, Fry-p11** 14 Dec 1919 Alabama becomes 22nd State (John = age 27) World Book 1820 Cahaba has 2 newspapers, a land office, State bank, stores, private boarding houses, hotels, etc. MOOC, Fry-p13** 1820
8 Dec 1820 Fourth child, William, is born in Dallas Co., AL (John = age 28) USCen.1850* and
unk. birth record1825 Rivers overflow, flood Cahaba (John = age 33) MOOC, Fry** Jan 1826 Capital is moved to Tuscaloosa, AL; Cahaba all but abandoned MOOCFry-p14** 1826
ca. 1826 Fifth child, Sarah, is born in Dallas Co., AL (John = age 34) USCen.1850* ca. 1827 Sixth child, Mary Ann, is born in Dallas Co., AL (John = age 35) USCen.1850* ca. 1828 Seventh child, Martha J., is born in Dallas Co., AL (twin of Chess?) (John = age 36) USCen.1850* ca. 1828 Eighth child, Chesley R., is born in Dallas Co., AL (twin of Martha?) (John = age 36) USCen.1850* 1832
ca. 1832 Ninth child, Louisa A., is born in Dallas Co., AL (John = age 40) USCen.1830* 1833 Fry's research uncovers this name in Cahaba among many others: John Guiwn (sic) MOOCFry-p16** 1833 Second flood inundates Cahaba (John = age 41) MOOCFry-p16** 1836
1836 Prosperity returns to Cahaba, remains until the end (late 1860s) MOOCFry-p18** 1837 Son Isom and Mary Burdine Wilson are married gravestone in the cemetery across the road from former site of St. Luke's Episcopal Church at Martin's Station, Dallas Co., AL Dec 1837 Work is authorized to be begun in early 1838 on the Cahaba and Marion RR (see 1859 entry, below) Newspaper account of the meeting, held at Marion, Perry Co., AL ca. 1838 Isom and Mary B give John and Jane a grandchild--Mary Jane Gwin is born (John = age 40) 1850 census of Dallas Co.
27 Dec 1838 Daughter Mary marries Drury H. Roark in Cahaba (John = age 46) unk. record 18 Mar 1841 Daughter Sarah marries Louis Basset in Cahaba LDS IGI file 1842
12 May 1842 Son William marries Roseann Carlisle Jones Wilson in Cahaba (John = age 49) Dallas Co.
Marriage Recordca. 1842 Mary & Drury give John & Jane grandchild #2--Walter Roark is born (age 8 in 1850 census) USCen.1850* 19 Jan 1843 Daughter Mary Ann Gwin marries Joseph Lavalette Basset LDS IGI file 3 Nov 1843 J & J's grandchild #3, Emily Ann Basset, is born to Ann and Joseph in Cahaba, AL; she will live to age 74 and die 12 Dec 1917 in Ennis TX Cara Macon Hilliard 1846
ca. 1846 Son-in-law Drury Roark dies, Cahaba; daughter Mary is a widow ca. age 29 (John = age 54) unk. record 22 Apr 1847 Dau. Martha J. m. widower Jesse Comelander (John = age 55) unk. record 1849-1855 Six-year span of the entries I have from Rev. Cotten's diary (John = age 57-63) Cotten diary 17 May 1849 Dau. Mary m2. to Abel Turner; dau. Louisa A. m2. William J. McKnight (John, 57) Cotten diary 16 Oct 1849 John and Jane Gwin sold to their daughter-in-law R.C.J. Wilson Gwin's uncle, Ezekiel B. Wilson, for one thousand dollars, six lots of land in Cahaba numbered 217, 218, 219, 220, 221, and 222 (except approximately the eastern halves of lots 217 and 218) as recorded in the Dallas Co. Record Book N on pp. 195 and 196. Was this to have something extra to give to their daughter Louisa and her new husband, Wm. McKnight? Dallas Co. Deed
Record Book N
pp. 195 and 196.20 Mar 1850 Son Chesley R. m. Frances E. "Fannie" Bell in Bogue Chitto (John = age 58) Cotten diary Summer 1850 Newlyweds Chess & Fannie in are living in John's and Jane's home in Cahaba USCen.1850* 1853
7 Dec 1853 Son Isom, ca. age 37, Justice of Peace, dies in Dallas Co. (John = age 61) Obit, Dallas Gazette March 1855 Last entry I have from Cotten diary--John, 62; Jane, 58; & William are still living in Cahaba Cotten diary 28 Jan 1859 Dau-in-law Mary Burdine Wilson Gwin (Isom's widow) m2. to the man who is probably her pastor, Rev. John Steadman LDS IGI file 1859 Railroad is built from Cahaba to Marion (John = age 67) Perhaps this is the year it was completed; however, work was authorized in Dec 1837 to begin in Jan 1838 (see 1837 entry above) MOOCFry-p67** 1860
24 Jul 1860 Son Wm. and family recorded in Oakleyville, Bibb Co., AL (John = age 68) USCensus 1860 Summer 1860 John and Jane are living in Cahaba at the home of W.G. and Eliza Grice (reason unclear--perhaps Jane is ill; also living there are g'son J.W. Roark and step-g'daughter Elizabeth Comelander, each 15) USCensus 1860 11 Jan 1861 Alabama secedes from the Union (John = age 69) World Book 1 Jul 1863 Grandson Walter Roark is killed in Battle of Gettysburg, ca. age 21 (John = age 70) MOOC, Fry** 13 Jan 1864 Granddaughter Emily Ann Basset marries G. Thomas Macon in Cahaba, moves to Texas Cara Macon Hilliard 16 Feb 1864 John and Jane sell for $800 the east half of Lot Seven in Cahaba to Conrad Hildebrandt who had been residing there. Was this to help pay for Emily's wedding, or perhaps to give them something for their wedding? Dallas Co. Deed
Record Book T
p. 7401865
Spg 1865 Another big flood inundates Cahaba just before the surrender (John = age 72) MOOCFry-p68** 9 Apr 1865 Lee surrenders to Grant at Appomattox (John = age 72) World Book 1866 Courthouse is moved to Selma (John = age 73) MOOCFry-p68** 1864-1870 Sometime in this decade, Jane dies, is bd. in the New Cemetery at Cahaba. Also bd. there are dau. Louisa and her husband William McKnight saw undated
graves Jan 2002
1870
Feb 1870 John is living in Wilsonville at home of Will & Roe (John = age 77) USCen.1870*** 7 Apr 1877 John dies and is buried in Wilsonville, Shelby Co., AL, age 84 yrs. and 4 mo. Grave Photo 29 Apr 1889 William dies and is buried in Wilsonville, Shelby Co., AL, age 68 Grave Photo 29 Mar 1907 William's widow Roe dies in Tampa, FL, is bd. in Wilsonville beside William Grave Photo
* 1850 US Census, Cahaba Beat, Dallas Co., AL
* 1830 US Census, Cahaba Beat, Dallas Co., AL
**Fry, Anna M. Gayle; Memories of Old Cahaba; Publishing House of the M.E. Church, South; Nashville; 1908
*** 1870 US Census, Cahaba Beat, Dallas Co., AL
Red names
in this
column are
John's & Jane's
immediate family.Black names are
J&J's in-laws.Green are J&J's
grandchildren.Purple are not
reltated to J & JHorizontal Time Line of John's and Jane's Families
1790 1800 ...MMMMMMM..........................................................................................................................mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 1810
Blue exes indicate, generally, single years.
Red exes indicate, generally, married years.
Black exes indicate years where we are not fairly certain what was going on.
Green exes are J & J's grandchildren.
______________
John________
Jane Walker_Isom________
Mary Wilson___
__Mary Jane
(Jn.Steadman)Mary________
Drury Roark____
_ Walter J.
Abel Turner____
__Anna_***_Thomas______
UNKNOWN____William______
Roe Wilson____
__MaryAnn Eliz.
Martha Jane
Wm. Sutton
John Wesley
Rufus King ***
Lucy Marcella
Isham Griffin
Tho. WilsonSarah________
Louie Basset___
__Emma__
m.C.McCulloch
__Ann AdeliaMaryAnn "Ann"_
Joseph Basset___Martha_J.____
Jesse ComelanderChesley_R.___
Fannie Bell____
Paralee Blevins_Louisa_A.____
Wm. McKnight_
1790 1800 1810 1820 1830 1840 1850 1860 1870 1880 1890 1900 1910 1920_____1930
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This was posted to the Guestbook for Primitive Baptist Research in Tennessee, Kentucky, and Indiana at http://www.carthage.lib.il.us/community/churches/primbap/Guestbook-KY-IN.htmlMon Apr 29 21:54:10 2002
Name: James T. Wall
Email: JAMESTWALL@aol.com
Comments:
I am descended from Isham Guinn/Isom Gwin who was a Baptist preacher at Tuckaleechee Cove, Blount Co., TN, about 1809 and at Sevier Co., TN, around 1810. He later was a Minister of the Gospel in Harrison and Crawford and Orange counties. He was preacher at El Bethel Baptist Church, Crawford Co., IN, until 1817 and at Providence Baptist Church in Crawford/Orange County, IN, until his death around 1830. He was listed in a book listing Baptist preachers, printed in Boston, MA, in 1811.Isham Guinn served in the Montgomery Co. Militia, VA, in 1787. He m. ca. 1787 to Mary Canterberry, d/o Samuel.
I would like to know his parents and her mother.James T. Wall
2511 N. Stuart St.
Arlington, VA 22207-5163
(703) 524-2198
E-mail JAMESTWALL@aol.com
EFGH Civil War soldiers burials and queries
from: http://www.hardinhistory.com/history/etoh.htmFirst Name: = Robert A.
Last Name: = Guinn
U/C: = Confederate
Rank: = 1st LT
Unit: = 18th GA Infantry
Cemetary Name: = East View
Location: = Conyers, GA
e-mail = ottis@cafes.netFirst Name: = Isham
Last Name: = Guinn
U/C: = Confederate
Rank: = 3rd SGT
Unit: = Co., I, 4th GA Reserves
Cemetary Name: = East View
Location: = Conyers, GA
e-mail = ottis@cafes.net
comments = Isham Guinn, was a guard at Andersonville.First Name: = Thomas
Last Name: = Guinn
U/C: = Confederate
Rank: = 2nd LT
Unit: = Co., A, 3rd GA Sharpshooters
Cemetary Name: = City Cemetery
Location: = Covington, GA
e-mail = ottis@cafes.net
Some Good Communication
Hi John,I am VERY interested in your Gwin family!
I have not been able to discover the first name of my Margaret Gwin's father, as he died before the 1790 census of Burke Co, NC, and his widow, Deborah Gwin, (unknown maiden name) is shown on that census. Margaret married Daniel England.
Daniel England died about 1815 in Burke Co, NC, and Margaret moved with some of her children to Habersham Co, GA, where she later died. Margaret was said to have been born in NC. I also don't know where her parents came to NC from.
Daniel's father William England had been in NC prior to the Rev. War, but I don't have proof where they came from either. Daniel and Margaret did have a son named Richard, and I always wondered if that was perhaps Margaret's father's name.
The 1760 replacement census for VA shows David Gwin and George Gwin in Lunenburg Co, VA; David, Henry, John, Jos'h, Josiah and Thomas Gwin in Nansemond Co., VA; James and Elizabeth Gwinn in Prince William Co., VA, and a Hugh Gwynn in Stafford Co, VA; however, I think this book didn't cover all VA counties, and I have a 1740 book on order.
Library of VA shows the following at http://www.lva.lib.va.us/dlp/index.htm:
Any connections?
GRANTEE Gwinn, Richard, DATE 1 July 1780. NOTE Location: Pittsylvania County. NOTE Description: 3850 acres on both sides of Cherrystone Creek and Harpin Creek and adjoining Walton &c. NOTE Source: Land Office Grants A, 1779-1780 (v.1 & 2 p.1-685), p. 530 (Reel 42).GRANTEE Gwyn, Richard DATE 15 June 1773. NOTE Location: Pittsylvania County. NOTE Description: 335 acres on two branches of Sandy Creek of Banister river adjoining Isham Kennen's land. NOTE Source: Land Office Patents No. 41, 1772-1773, p. 345 (Reel 40).
GRANTEE Gwyn, Richard DATE 25 June 1780. NOTE Location: Pittsylvania County. NOTE Description: 330 acres on the branches of Sandy Creek, adjoining Kennon and Kirby. NOTE Source: Land Office Grants A, 1779-1780 (v.1 & 2 p.1-685), p. 522 (Reel 42).
No Richards listed in the index to wills, but
Gwin, John DATE 1753 SOURCE Deed Book 7, 1747-1755 (Reel 7) p. 471. Inv. & Appr. rec. 15 May 1753. NOTE Part of index to Princess Anne County Wills and Administrations (1691-1800), and
Gwin, John DATE 1740 SOURCE Deed Book 5, 1735-1740 (Reel 5) p. 466. Accounts rec. 2 Apr. 1740. NOTE Part of index to Princess Anne County Wills and Administrations (1691-1800), and
Gwin, John DATE 1728 SOURCE Deeds & Wills No. 4, 1724-1735 (Reel 4) p. 171. Will pro. 1 May 1728. NOTE Part of index to Princess Anne County Wills and Administrations (1691-1800), and
Gwin, Joseph DATE 1777 SOURCE Chesterfield Order Book 6, p. 129. His orphan, Joseph Gwin, to be bound out by the Churchwardens of Dale Parish, 4 April 1777. NOTE Part of index to Chesterfield County Wills and Administrations (1754-1800)
and
Gwyn, Thomas DATE 1788 SOURCE Will Book 1, 1784-1800 (Reel 19) p. 14a-15. Will pro. 25 Feb 1788. p. 18a-19a. Inv. & Appr. rec. 20 Jan 1789. NOTE Part of index to Norfolk Wills and Administrations (1784 - 1800)Then in the Virginial Genealogical Society Quarterly [Name/Series/Volume/Chapter/Section]Richard Gwin XXIX 3 01-AUG-1991 Albemarle County, Virginia Court Orders, 1744/45 - 1748 June Term 1748 - August Term 1748
Richard Gwin XXX 3 01-AUG-1992 Virginia Land Patent Book 29 Albermarle Co, VA 1749 neighbor of Joseph Adcock
Richard Gwin XXXII 1 01-FEB-1994 Virginia Land Patent Book 32 Albermarle Co, VA 1754 neighbor of Col. John Bolling
Richard Gwin XXXII 2 01-MAY-1994 Virginia Land Patent Book 33 Albermarle Co, VA 1756 his own patent
Audrey Fett, AaronGFett@aol.com
Orlando, FL
26 Mar 2003
Cahaba Money
Here's a paper bank note for one "bit"--twelve and a half cents, an eighth of a dollar--issued by and payable at the Bank of the State of Alabama in Tuscaloosa and dated August 1842, only sixteen years after the state capital was moved there from Cahaba.
Cahaba was still a thriving town and the seat of Dallas County in the 1840's. Many notes such as this must have passed through the hands of Cahaba's citizens in those days. The eBay seller of this note said that the rarity of this note is now seven, meaning--if I understand the seller's note correctly--that only six others are known to still exist.
. John
Gwin
(1792 - 1877) A Biographical Sketch by his ggg-grandson, John McDonald Gwin |
Acknowledgements: This sketch
would not have been possible
without the patience, love,
and support of my wonderful wife, Sharon--who
has endured countless
lonely hours while I genealogized--and the tireless efforts of hundreds
of my cousins and other friends and relatives, many of whose
names are
not yet even known. Some of these include my father’s brother, Uncle
James Basset Gwin II, whose forty-plus years of work I inherited
just before he died in
1984; Fifth Cousin James T. "Jim" Wall,
known to many of us as host of his
magnificent page and source of much of the information on my webpages;
Double-fourth Cousin Barbara Ward,
who inherited the old photo album
from which we’ve seen the faces of so many of our family
[www.zianet.com/jmcdgwin/Index2PhotoAlbum.htm];
Double-fifth Cousin Michael S. "Mike"
Walker;
and many, many others whose names appear on the various pages of
my website. |
The above story is my imagination of what may actually have happened based on the following documents: 1. The recorded deeds of some twenty land grants
for Isham Gwin and
some of his Crowson’s Cove (today’s Wear Valley) neighbors, surveys for
which were done in the spring and summer of 1807 by Mr. Mark Moore, one
of the chain carriers for whom was Isham’s son John Gwin
(Microfilm,
Greene County Genealogical Archives, Greeneville, TN);
2. A biographical sketch of one of
Isham’s grandsons, William W. Gwin,
in which it is recorded how Isham’s changing views on slavery led him
to free his own slaves, sell his farm, and move to the new, free state
of Indiana (Geneological and
Biographical History of Keokuk County,
Iowa, The Lewis Publishing Co., 1903).
John
M. Gwin
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