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Thomas Walker, Jr. and Sarah "Polly" Gwin . |
Sources:1. -- I met Fifth Cousin Jim Wall online not long after I'd created my webpage for Isham Gwin, my (and his) gggg-grandfather. I'd made the trip to east Tennessee in the summer of 2003 to find anything on this Isham I could, and when I found the deed to his land in Seveir Co., I drew a map of his farm from the survey and put it online. It didn't take Jim long to find me after that, and the more notes we compared, the more obvious it became that his Isham and mine were one and the same. He descends from Isham's and Mary's daughter Elizabeth who married David Denton.
2. -- Then in Dec 2005 I met online my double fifth cousin, Mike Walker, who provided me with most of the following information on the descendants of Isom Gwin Walker. Jim Wall had already provided me with the names of Tom's and Polly's kids. Here are our three separate lines:
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John
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Thomas Walker
Sr. m.
Elizabeth Magill Isham Gwin m. |
<bride/groom> parents of |
Elizabeth Magill Isham Gwin m. |
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Isham Gwin m. |
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m. Polly Gwin (moved to Indiana) |
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23.02--Elizabeth Gwin
m. David Denton (moved to Indiana) |
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William Gwin m. Roseanne
Carlisle Jones
Wilson
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1st Cousins |
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24.03--Isom Denton
m2. Elizabeth (Betty) Weathers |
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William Sutton Gwin m. Ida
Eliza Basset
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2nd Cousins |
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25.10--Mary Angeline Denton m. John William Patterson |
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James Basset Gwin m. Adrian
Belle Vardaman
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3rd Cousins |
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26.01--Vernia William Patterson m1. Georgia Alice Usery |
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Adrian Sutton Gwin m. Dorothy
Lee Keeney
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4th Cousins |
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27.01--Ruth Newlin Patterson, m. James T. Wall; |
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John McDonald
Gwin jmcdgwin@zianet.com
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5th Cousins |
appinscot@bellsouth.net |
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28.01--James T. Wall jamestwall@aol.com |
3. -- In Jan 2006, while wading through some of Mike's extensive gedcom he'd sent me (below), I came upon the name of one of the contributors to his material, Carolynn Elizabeth Walker, and contacted her. It turns out that her husband, Vern E. Walker, and my father are double fourth cousins. We're still in the process of exchanging data.
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21.00--John Walker, Sr., m. Mary Anderson
22.00--Thomas Walker, Sr., m. Elizabeth Magill23.05--Thomas Walker, Jr., m. Polly Gwin |
21.00--Richard Gwin m. Sarah Chesley
22.00--Isham Gwin m. Mary Canterbury23.01--Polly Gwin m. Thomas Walker, Jr. |
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Descendants of Thomas Walker, Jr., and Polly Gwin 23.05--Thomas Walker, Jr., b. 1791/95 Blount Co., TN; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. Polly Gwin (b. ca. 1787; d. bef. 1855 when her dad's will was finally probated); 9 known ch.
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24.01--Isom Gwin Walker, b. ca. 1815 in TN [age 35 in the 5 Oct 1850 Census of Columbia Twp., Martin Co. (now Dubois Co.), IN]; [listed by Ancestry.com as Isan G. Walker, age 46, in the 29 Aug 1860 Census of Halbert Bluff, Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN]; [listed as Irfrom (sic) Walker, age 56, in the 18 Aug 1870 Census of Shoals, Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN]; [age 65 in 1880 and living in the home of daughter Laura McKittrick--see below] in TN; m. 13 Jan 1835 (first taken from children's ages in 1850 then from their marriage certificate) in Martin Co., IN, to Clarissa Thurston (b. ca. 1816 in MA [age 34 in the 5 Oct 1850 Census of Columbia Twp., Martin Co. (now Dubois Co.), IN]; [listed as Clarissa J. Walker, age 45, in the 29 Aug 1860 Census of Halbert Bluff, Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN]; [listed as Clarisa Walker, age 55, in the 18 Aug 1870 Census of Shoals, Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN]; d. bef. 1880); 11 known ch. [John M. Gwin Note: Cousin Mike Walker (8.0, below) sent me on 11 Oct 2006 a copy of material he found on Ancestry.com regarding Walker Marriages in Martin Co., IN: Isam Walker m. Clarissa Thurston 13 Jan 1835 in Martin Co., IN.] |
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25.04--George
W. Walker,
b. ca.
1843 [age
7 in the 5 Oct 1850 Census of Columbia Twp., Martin Co., IN]; [listed as Geo. W. Walker, age 17, in the 29 Aug 1860 Census of Halbert
Bluff, Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.;
m. unk.; unk. ch. DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
25.05--James Walker, b. ca.
1845 [age
5 in the 5 Oct 1850 Census of Columbia Twp., Martin Co. (now Dubois Co.), IN] ; [listed as James Walker, age 15, in the 29 Aug 1860 Census of Halbert
Bluff, Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.;
m. unk.; unk. ch. DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
25.06--Amelia A. Walker, b. ca. 1847-48 [age 3 in the 5 Oct 1850 Census of Columbia Twp., Martin Co. (now Dubois Co.), IN]; [listed as Amelia A. Walker, age 12, in the 29 Aug 1860 Census of Halbert Bluff, Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. DESCENDANTS POSSIBLE 25.07--Isham Gwin Walker, II, b. 16 Jan(?) 1850 in Columbia Twp., Martin Co., IN [age 5 months in the 5 Oct 1850 Census of Columbia Twp., Martin Co. (now Dubois Co.), IN]; [listed as Isom G. Walker, age 10, in the 29 Aug 1860 Census of Halbert Bluff, Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN]; [listed as Irpana T. (sic) Walker, age 20, in the 18 Aug 1870 Census of Shoals, Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN] ; d. 26 Aug 1918 in Pamunky, New Kent Co., VA; m. 25 Sep 1873 in Martin Co., IN, to Margaret Ellen Childers (b. 15 Oct 1851 in IN, d/o Joseph Childers [b. 1817 in IN; d. 18 Nov 1884 at the Poor Asylum, Martin Co., IN; m. 14 Dec 1884 in Washington, Co., IN, to Ruth Wheeler]; d. 18 Jul 1919 in Pamunky, New Kent Co., VA); 4 ch. 26.01--Laura Walker, b. ca. 1873; DESCENDANTS POSSIBLE25.08--Clarissa J. Walker, b. ca. 1852 (b. 1851) in Columbia Twp., Martin Co., IN [listed as Clarissa J. Walker, age 8, in the 29 Aug 1860 Census of Halbert Bluff, Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN]; [listed as Clarea J. Walker, age 18, in the 18 Aug 1870 Census of Shoals, Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN]; [age 28 in 1880 census of Lost River, Martin, IN]; d. btw. 1890 and 1900; bd. unk.; m. in IN to Kinsey Franklin Cornwell (b. ca. 1845, [age 36 in 1880 census of Lost River, Martin, IN]; [listed as "Kinzie T", widowed, age 55 (b. Jan 1845), in the 19 Jun 1900 census of French Lick, Orange Co., IN], s/o Jane VEATCH Noblitt [desc. of Kinsey Veatch?]); at least 6 ch. 26.01--Ione
Cornwell,
b. ca. 1877 [age 3 in 1880 census of Lost River, Martin, IN] DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
26.02--Iola Cornwell, b. ca. 1879 [age 1 in 1880 census of Lost River, Martin, IN] DESCENDANTS POSSIBLE 26.03--Mabel
J. Cornwell, b. ca.
1882 ;
[listed as "Mabel", age 16 (b. Feb 1884), in the 19 Jun 1900 census of French Lick,
Orange Co., IN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
26.04--Clyde Cornwell, son, b. Jul 1885; [listed as "Clyde", age 14 (b. Jul 1885), in the 19 Jun 1900 census of French Lick, Orange Co., IN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. DESCENDANTS POSSIBLE 26.05--Waine Cornwell, son, b. Feb 1884; [listed as
"Waine", age 12 (b. May 1888), in the 19 Jun 1900 census of French Lick,
Orange Co., IN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. DESCENDANTS
POSSIBLE
26.06--Leata Cornwell, dau, b. Jan 1890; [listed as "Leata", age 10 (b. Jan 1890), in the 19 Jun 1900 census of French Lick, Orange Co., IN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch. DESCENDANTS POSSIBLE 25.09--Thomas Thurston Walker, b. 22 Oct 1854 in Richland Co., IL [listed as Thomas T. Walker, age 6, in the 29 Aug 1860 Census of Halbert Bluff, Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN]; [listed as Thomas D. Walker, age 15, in the 18 Aug 1870 Census of Shoals, Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN]; [but listed as Thomas T. Walker, age 44, b. Nov 1855, in the 20 Jun 1900 census of Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IN]; [age 56 in the 4 May 1910 census of Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IL]; [age 65 in the 6 Jan 1920 census of Allendale Vill., Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IL]; d. 15 Jan 1926 in Wabash Co., IL, of heart attack while in field husking corn; bd. in Compton Cem.; m. 14 Dec 1884 in Martin Co., IN, to Lucinda Riley (b. 28 Apr 1858 near French Lick, Jackson Twp., Orange Co., IN [listed as Lucinda Walker, age 42, b. Apr 1858 in the 20 Jun 1900 census of Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IN, where she reports that of 8 ch. b., only 7 still live]; [age 52 in the 4 May 1910 census of Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IL, where she reports all 8 ch. lvg. of 8 born]; [age 61 in the 6 Jan 1920 census of Allendale Vill., Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IL]; [listed as Lucy, age 72 and wd., in the 28 Apr 1930 census of Allendale Vill., Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IL]; d. 25 Feb 1945 in Allendale, Wabash Co., IL; bd. Compton Cem.; adopted d/o John L. Riley and Catherine Stockinger); 26.01--William Henry Walker, b. 13 May 1882 near French Lick, IN [listed as William H. Walker, age 18, b. May 1882 in the 20 Jun 1900 census of Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IN]; [listed as William Walker, age 26, in the 10 May 1910 census of Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IL,]; [listed as William H. Walker, age 36, in the 5 Jan 1920 census of Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IL,]; [listed as William H. Walker, age 47, in the 17 Apr 1930 census of Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IL,]; d. 10 Sep 1945 in Evansville, IN, hospital of strangulated hernia; bd. St. Francisville, IL, Cem.; m. Geneva Potts (b. 2 Jan 1888 in IL [listed as Geneva Walker, age 22 in the 10 May 1910 census of Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IL, where she reports 2 yrs. of m., 2 ch. b., both still lvg.]; [listed as Genevra Walker, age 30, in the 5 Jan 1920 census of Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IL,]; [listed as Geniva Walker, age 41, in the 17 Apr 1930 census of Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IL,]; d. 6 Apr 1967; bd. unk.); at least 3 ch.27.01--Lafayette Walker, b. 8 Aug 1908 [listed as Lafiette Walker, age 2, in the 10 May 1910 census of Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IL,]; [listed as Lafayette Walker, age 11, in the 5 Jan 1920 census of Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IL,]; [listed as Lafalyetta Walker, age 21, in the 17 Apr 1930 census of Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IL,]; lived in Allendale, IL 62410; phone was 299-4041; DESCENDANTS POSSIBLE26.02--Shelby Lemon Walker, b. 3 Sep 1885 near French Lick, IN [listed as Shelby L. Walker, age 15, b. Sep 1884 in the 20 Jun 1900 census of Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IN]; [age 24 in the 4 May 1910 census of Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IL]; d. 5 Jun 1948 in Claypool, Kosciusko Co., IN, from "compound ailments"; m. Beulah Fern Potts
Thomas
E. Simmons m2. Sophia M. Jones
William
Owen Simmons m2. Sara
Archer:
25.04--Patrick
Simmons, b. Jan
1853 in Lost River,
Martin Co., IN [age
16 in 15 Aug 1870 Census of Lost River Twp.,
Martin Co., IN]; [age 27 in 15 Jun 1880 Census of Lost River Twp.,
Martin Co., IN]; [listed as "Patrick", age 47 and b.
Jan 1853, in the 19 Jun 1900
census of Decker Twp., Knox Co., IN]; [listed as "Patrick", age 57, in the
16 Apr 1910
census of Hazleton, White River Twp., Gibson Co., IN];
d. aft. 1896; m1.
1 Oct 1882 in Martin Co., IN, to Elizabeth C. Jones, (b. 1856
in
TN; d. 1885-9, prob. in Martin Co., IN); m2. 19 Apr 1888 in Martin Co.,
IN, to Eliza A. Stone (b. Nov 1855 [listed as "Eliza A.", age 44 and b.
Nov 1855, in the 19 Jun 1900
census of Decker Twp., Knox Co., IN]; [listed as "Eliza A.", age 55, in the
16 Apr 1910
census of Hazleton, White River Twp., Gibson Co., IN];
d. unk.; bd. unk.); she reports 4 of 5 ch. living in the 1900 and 1910
censuses;
Patrick
Simmons m2. 19 Apr 1888 to Eliza
A. Stone;
25.05--Mary Ellen Simmons, b. ca 1856 [age 14 in 15 Aug 1870 Census of Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN]; d.; m. Thomas J. Jones; 26.01--James Patrick
Jones, b. 3 Aug 1881;
d. 3 Mar 1935;
25.06--Elizabeth Simmons, b. 15 May 1856 [age 13 in 15 Aug 1870 Census of Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN] in Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN; m. George Davidson; unk. ch.
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[John M. Gwin Note: On 11 Oct 2006, Cousin Mike Walker found an Orange County, IN, marriage between an Elizabeth Walker and a Robert J. Wright taking place on 31 Aug 1830 in Orange Co. Whether these are our Robert and Elizabeth or not is still speculation.] |
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24.1--Isom Gwin Walker, I, b. ca. 1815 (65 in 1880) in TN; m. 13 Jan 1835 (from children's ages in 1850) in Martin Co., IN, to Clarissa Thurston (b. ca. 1814 in MA); 11 known ch.25.01--Mary A. Walker, b. ca. 1836 (14 in 1850) in IN;25.02--Sarah Ann Walker, b. ca. 1837 (13 in 1850)
25.03--Susan Walker, b. ca. 1839 (11 in 1850, but 17! in 1860)
25.04--George W. Walker, b. ca. 1843 (7 in 1850; 17 in 1860)
25.05--James Walker, b. ca. 1845 (5 in 1850; 15 in 1860)
25.06--Amelia Walker, b. ca. 1847-48 (3 in 1850; 12 in 1860)
25.07--Isham Gwin Walker, II, b. 16 Jan 1850 (10 in 1860) in Columbia Twp., Martin Co., IN; d. 26 Aug 1918 in Pamunky, New Kent Co., VA; m. 25 Sep 1873 in Martin Co., IN, to Margaret Ellen Childers (b. 15 Oct 1851 in IN; d. 18 Jul 1919 in Pamunky, New Kent Co., VA); 4 ch.
26.01--Laura Walker, b. ca. 1873;25.08--Clarissa J. Walker, b. ca. 1852 (8 in 1860);26.02--Beth (Ruth?) Walker, b. ca. 1876 in IN;
26.03--Mary E. Walker, b. ca. 1877 in IN;
26.04--John Arthur Walker, b. 30 May 1886; d. 1955;
25.09--Thomas Thurston Walker, b. 22 Oct 1854 in Richland Co., IL; d. 15 Jan 1926 in Wabash Co., IL, of heart attack while in field husking corn; bd. in Compton Cemetery; m. 14 Dec 1884 in Martin County, IN, to Lucinda Riley (b. 28 Apr 1858 near French Lick, Jackson Twp., Orange Co., IN; d. 25 Feb 1945 in Allendale, Wabash Co., IL; bd. Compton Cem.; adopted d/o John L. Riley and Catherine Stockinger);
26.01--William Henry Walker, b. 13 May 1882; d. 10 Sep 1945.26.02--Shelby Lemon Walker, b. 3 Sep 1885 near French Lick, IN [listed as "Shelby L. Walker", age 15, b. Sep 1884 in the 20 Jun 1900 census of Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IN]; [age 24 in the 4 May 1910 census of Wabash Pct., Wabash Co., IL]; [listed as "Shelby", age 33, in the 5 Jan 1920 census of Allendale Village, Wabash Precinct, Wabash Co., IL]; [listed as "Shelby", age 45, in the 26 Apr 1930 census of Claypool, Clay Twp., Kosciusko Co., IN]; d. 5 Jun 1948 in Claypool, Kosciusko Co., IN, from "compound ailments"; m. ca. 1916 (age 31) to Beulah Fern Potts (b. in IL ca. 1890 [listed as "Beulah F.", age 30, in the 5 Jan 1920 census of Allendale Village, Wabash Precinct, Wabash Co., IL]; [listed as "Beulah", age 39, in the 26 Apr 1930 census of Claypool, Clay Twp., Kosciusko Co., IN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.); m. age 25; at least 3 ch.
27.01--Robert O. Walker, b. in IL ca. Nov 1916 [listed as "Robert O.", age 3 yrs., 2mos., in the 5 Jan 1920 census of Allendale Village, Wabash Precinct, Wabash Co., IL]; [listed as "Robert", age 13, in the 26 Apr 1930 census of Claypool, Clay Twp., Kosciusko Co., IN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
27.02--Charles W. Walker, b. in IL ca. [listed as "Charles W.", age 2 yrs., 4mos., in the 5 Jan 1920 census of Allendale Village, Wabash Precinct, Wabash Co., IL]; [listed as "Charles", age 12, in the 26 Apr 1930 census of Claypool, Clay Twp., Kosciusko Co., IN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
27.03--Francis M. Walker, b. in IL ca. Nov 1919 [listed as "Francis M.", age 2mos., in the 5 Jan 1920 census of Allendale Village, Wabash Precinct, Wabash Co., IL]; [listed as "Francis", age 10, in the 26 Apr 1930 census of Claypool, Clay Twp., Kosciusko Co., IN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
27.04--Frank Walker, b. in IL ca. 1921 [listed as "Frank", age 9, in the 26 Apr 1930 census of Claypool, Clay Twp., Kosciusko Co., IN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. Janice Snoke (b. unk.; d. unk. bd. unk.); at least one ch.
28.00--Michael Shelby Walker -- appinscot@bellsouth.net
27.05--Billie J. Walker, son, b. in IL ca. 1921 [listed as "Billie J.", age 2 yrs. 11mos., in the 26 Apr 1930 census of Claypool, Clay Twp., Kosciusko Co., IN]; d. unk.; bd. unk.; m. unk.; unk. ch.
26.03--Walter Hunter Walker, b. 23 Apr 1887; d. 30 Sep 1945.
26.04--Clara C. Walker, b. 25 Apr 1889; d. 6 Oct 1889.
26.05--Emma Tolliver Walker, b. 9 Apr 1891; d. ca. 1 Oct 1973.
26.06--Otho Stephen Walker, b. 3 Nov 1893 in Orange Co., IN; d. 1 Dec 1969 in Oak Ridge, TN; bd. Allendale, IL; m. Willie Mae "Wilma" Abbott (b. 18 Jul 1901 in Lenoir City, Loudon Co., TN; d.13 Jun 1967; bd. Elmwood Cem., Hammond, IN; d/o John Horace Abbott and Mary Jane [Sophia J?] Compton); [Mike Walker's Notes on Otho: Funeral bill: Undertaker's complete services, $1181.00; Preacher, $20.00; Flowers, $35.00; Grave donated by Ruth Graham. Wilma's girlhood homes were in Knoxville, Maryville, Townsend, Lenoir City, Sevierville, Cades Cove, and Wears Valley, TN. Wilma had three aunts who were the last people living in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. Their last name was Walker; the Walker Sisters' Cabin is still standing preserved above the Metcalf Bottoms area near the road to Wear's Cove.]
26.07--Jessie Ellen Walker, b. 9 Feb 1896; d. ca. 1 Oct 1976. Verify date of death.
26.08--Susie May Walker, b. 22 Apr 1898; d. ca. 1 Jan 1972.Verify date of death
26.09--Samuel Walker, b. 17 Jan 1901; d. ca. 17 Jan 1901.
26.10--John Isham Walker, b. 3 Jan 1904 in Timberville, Wabash Co., IL; d. of cancer 21 Jan 1967 in Allendale, IL; m1. unk.; m2. Louise (nee unk., b. 13 Jan 1907;) [Mike Walker's Notes on John Isham Walker: Funeral was at King and Ingram Funeral Home, Allendale, IL; pall bearers were Randal Payne, Marshall Price, Harry Gher, Arthur Keneipp, Rollie Osmon, and Scott Clark.]
25.10--Emily N. Walker, b. ca. 1856 (4 in 1860)24.02--Elizabeth Walker, b.25.11--Laura Walker, b. ca. 1858 (22 in 1880); m. T. Milton McKittrick (b. ca. 1857--23 in 1880)
24.03--James Walker, b.
24.04--Thomas Walker, b.
24.05--Mary "Polly" Walker, b.
24.06--Anderson Walker, b.
1880 United States Federal Census Record about Anderson Walker24.07--Mahala Walker, b.; m. unk.
Name: Anderson Walker
Age: 48
Estimated birth year: <1832>
Birthplace: Indiana
Relationship to head-of-household: Self
Home in 1880: Boone, Dubois, Indiana
Marital status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Spouse's name: Margaret Walker
Father's birthplace: TN
Mother's birthplace: TNImage Source: Year: 1880; Census Place: Boone, Dubois, Indiana; Roll: T9_275; Family History Film: 1254275; Page: 126.4000; Enumeration District: 165; Image: 0073.
24.08--Manerva Walker, b. 1825 ; d. 5 Nov 1856 in Martin Co., IN; m. 10 Dec 1846 in Martin Co., IN, to John William Simmons, Jr., (b. 1 Mar 1826 in Lost River, Martin Co., IN [age 46 in 1870 Census of Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN]; d. 1875; son of John William Simmons, Sr., and Elizabeth Conrad; marr. lic. obtained 12 Oct 1846 in Martin Co., IN);
25.01--Ann Simmons, b. 2 Jan 1849; d. 1951.24.09--Houston Walker, b. aft. 1830 (abs. in 1830 census)25.02--Elza Jane Simmons, b. 3 Jul 1849 in Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN; d. 1870; m. 4 Aug 1868 in Martin Co., IN, to Lewis Hendrickson (b. ;); unk. ch.
25.03--William Owen Simmons, b. 10 Apr 1851 in Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN; d. 1905; age 18 on the 1870 Census of Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN; also on 1880 census in Lost River, Martin Co., IN; m1. 8 Nov 1875 to Josephine Nickerson (b. 4 Dec 1854 in Hillham, Dubois Co., IN; d. 1892); m2. 17 Mar 1898 in Martin Co., IN, to Sara Archer (b. 6 Sep 1859; d. 1935);
26.01--Mary E. "Molly" Simmons, b. 27 Feb 1876 in Martin Co., IN; d. 1955; she had other parents; counted in 1880 census of Lost River, Martin Co., IN; m1. Wes (nee unk.; b. 1874; d. 1959); m2. unk.;William Owen Simmons m2. Sara Archer:26.02--John R. Simmons, b. 1 Sep 1877 in Martin Co., IN; d. 1878. He had other parents.
26.03--Thomas Elza Simmons, b. 1 Sep 1879 in Martin Co., IN; d. 1956; had other parents; was counted in 1880 census of Lost River, Martin Co., IN; m1. 1905 to Mable Seneff; m2. 20 Sep 1909 in Orange Co., IN, to Sophia M. Jones (b. 14 Nov 1890; d. 1966); m3. in 1905 to unk.;
26.04--Rilla S Simmons, b. 31 Aug 1882 in Martin Co., IN; d. 1895. She had other parents.
26.05--Axie Mayme Simmons, b. 4 May 1885 in Martin Co., IN; d. 1978. She had other parents; m1. 1951 to unk.; m2. 1951 to William A. Torrance (b. in Childress, TX);
26.06--Ray Franklin Simmons, b. 8 Oct 1887., IN; d. 3 Apr 1970.
26.07--Rose Belle Simmons, b. 10 Feb 1890 in Martin Co., IN; d. 1956; she had other parents; m1. Samuel Ryan Robbins (b. 30 Apr 1892; d. 1963); m2. unk.;
26.08--Roy W. Simmons, b. 24 Feb 1899 in Martin Co., IN; d. unk.; m. 30 Jan 1926 in Orange Co., IN, to Kathleen Early (;)...25.04--Patrick Simmons, b. Jan 1853 (age 16 in 1870 census) in Lost River, Martin Co., IN; d. aft. 1889; m1. 1 Oct 1882 in Martin Co., IN, to Elizabeth C. Jones, (b. 1856 in TN; d. 1885-9, prob. in Martin Co., IN); m2. 19 Apr 1888 in Martin Co., IN, to Eliza Stone (b. Nov 1855)[JOHN M. GWIN NOTE: EVIDENTLY SOME DATA IS MISSING HERE.]
...1968. Grace married Ollie P. Manford. (b. 8 Apr 1891 in Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN; d. 1963);
26.01--Jara B. Simmons, b. 10 Oct 1885 in Martin Co., IN;Patrick Simmons m2. Eliza A. Stone Aprl 19 1888.26.02--Clarence Simmons, b. 25 Feb 1889 in Martin Co., IN;25.05--Elizabeth Simmons, b. 15 May 1856 (age 13 in 1870 Census of Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN) in Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN; m. George Davidson; unk. ch.26.03--Wallace Simmons, b. Jan 1891 in IN;
26.04--Emma Simmons, b. Mar 1893 in IN;
26.05--Mary Simmons, b. Jun 1897 in IN;
25.06--Mary Ellen Simmons, b.; d.; m. Thomas J. Jones;
26.01--James Patrick Jones, b. 3 Aug 1881; d. 3 Mar 1935;
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PART 2: Some Good Documentation Sent In by 5th Cousin Mike Walker and others . |
5 Oct 1850 Federal Census of Columbia Township, Martin Co., Indiana
.29 Aug 1860 Federal Census of Lost River Township, Martin Co., Indiana
1 Jul 1870 Federal Census of Jackson Township, OrangeCo., Indiana
30 Jun 1880 Federal Census of Lost River Township, Martin Co., Indiana
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Mike Walker's Gedcom Mike sent this to me in a database format, and when I transcribed it, I inadvertantly erased the numbering system used to organize it. Some of the people, of course, one recognizes immediately, but for now, I have simply arranged them alphabetically. Eventually we hope to move all of them into my outline format. |
Ann
Anne
Bridgett (nee unk.), b. ca. 1750, Ireland
Christine; Maiden name unknown.
Marilyn
Marlene
Martha
Mary
Pauline, Maiden name unknown
Rhonda
Rita
2. _--Isom Gwin, b. ca. 1764, VA; d. ca. Dec 1830, Orange Co., IN, m. Mary Canterbury, b. ca. 1767, Montgomery Co., VA; d. aft. 1850, Orange Co., IN |
| William Magill, Sr., b. 1670, Calloway Co., Scotland;
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Augusta Co., VA; William Magill I was born in 1670 at Oxenford, Calloway Co., Scotland; m1. Mary Eakin ca. 1713? at Ireland; m2. Elizabeth Bell bef. 1745; m3. Margaret Gass betw. 1745 and 1749, widow; d. aft.10 Oct 1749 at Augusta Co., VA; will recorded 29 Nov 1749; emigrated w/ Charles Magill in 1726/27 to Bucks Co., PA from Ireland. William Magill, Sr., was believed b. in Scotland, went to Ireland bef. 1715, then to Augusta Co, VA. William Magill, Jr.,b. 1715, Tullycarn, Co. Down, Ireland; d. Jul 1806, 1805 Sw of Greenville, TN, on his farm; William Magill, Jr., lived his early life in Rockingham Co., VA, moving to Greene Co, TN in his middle years and settling in Meadow Creek. This is where he spent his remaining years. In his will, dated 19 Jul 1806, he provides a comfortable living for "My Dearly and Well Beloved Wife", Jean Magill. He lists household furnishings, cattle, a riding mare, and a Negro woman named Jude. (See below.) William Magill, Jr., b. 1715 at Tullycarn, Co. Down, Ireland, near Belfast, or 1725 in VA, according to DAR applications. His stature was 6 ft., his eyes blue, hair black, of very good health, and had only a primary education. He married 1st wife _____ Magill circa 1740? He married Jean Fowler (Edmiston) circa 1759 at VA; was mother of three youngest sons. He died in 1806 at Greene Co., TN; of old age, 8 miles south of Greeneville, occupation farmer, politically a Whig, and Presbyterian religion. He emigrated in 1726/27 to Bucks Co., PA, from Ireland with his father and uncle Charles Magill; was later a prominent land owner in Augusta Co., VA. He was appointed as a road overseer on 11 Feb 1745 at Augusta Co., VA. He was appointed Constable in 1746 at Augusta Co., VA. He inherited half his father's land, his father's white coat, saddle, tools, plow irons, a mare, horse, and one-half of the household goods in 1749 at Augusta Co., VA. He and wife Jean deeded to Charles Phillips for 5 shillings, 400 acres on branch of Cathey's River, called Buffalo Lick Branch, the land granted to William by deed from William and James Bell in 1760 on 8 Feb 1769 at Augusta Co., VA. He was deeded by Joseph Cravens for 5 shillings current money of Virginia, 150 acres on Cook's Creek, which today is in Rockingham Co on 18 Aug 1772 at Augusta Co., VA. He he accompanied his son James to Tennessee after the Revolutionary war after 1783. He left a will on 19 Jul 1806 at Greene Co., TN: "I, William Magill of the Co. of Greene and State of Tennessee, farmer, being in a bad state of of health but of perfect mind and memory thanks be given unto God, calling unto mind the mortality of my body, and knowing that it is appointed for all men once to die, do make and Ordain this my last Will and Testament . . .That is to say, principally and first of all I give and recommend my Soul into the hand of Almighty God that gave it and my body I recommend to the earth, to be buried in decent Christian Burial at the discretion of my Executors, nothing doubting but at the general resurrection I shall receive the same again by the mighty Power of God. And as touching such worldly estate wherewith it has pleased God to bless me in this life, I give, devise and dispose of the same in the following manner and form: First I give and Bequeath to JEAN MAGILL my dearly beloved wife the whole of my household furniture. Also her choice of Two milk Cowes and Two Steers out of my stock of Cattle, and my riding mare, her side saddle and bridle together with my negro woman named JUDE, the whole of which I bequeath to her as her absolute property, and also One Ewe and Lamb.Secondly I give and bequeath unto SAMUEL MAGILL, WILLIAM MAGILL, JAMES MAGILL, ROBART MAGILL, JOHN MAGILL, HUGH MAGILL and CHARLES MAGILL my sons and ELIZABETH WALKER my daughter, wife to THOMAS WALKER the residue of my Stock of cattle to be equally divided amongst them. Thirdly I give and bequeath unto my beloved Sons HUGH MAGILL and CHARLES MAGILL the whole plantation on which I live for to remain in One entire Tract untill they may agree to dispose of it and then the mony or property from thence arising shall be equally divided between them, reserving a comfortable living for my dearly and well beloved wife JANE MAGILL out of the plantation or of the profits arising therefrom at sale during her natural life.Fourthly, I hereby make, constitute, ordain and appoint HUGH MAGILL and CHARLES MAGILL my sole executors of this my last Will and Testament and I do hereby utterly disallow, revoke and disannul all and every former Testaments, Wills, and Bequests and executors by me in anywayes before named, will and bequeathed. Ratifying and confirming this and no other to be my last will and Testament. In witness whereof I have hereunto Set my hand and Seal this 19th day of July in the year of our Lord 1806. William MAGILL Signed, sealed, published, pronounced and declared by the said WILLIAM MAGILL as his last Will and Testament in the presence of us, who in his presence and in the presence of each other have hereunto subscribed our names. VALT. CALLAHAN, WILLIAM SHIELDS, JAMES SHIELDS. " To summarize, his will dated 19 Jul 1806 at Greene Co., TN; farmerRobert Magill III, b. ca. 1650, Oxenfurd, Calloway Co., Scotland; d. 1715 Ulster (or 1749 at Tullycarn, Co. Down, Ireland; emigrated 1715 from Scotland to Tullycarn, Co. Down, Ireland, settling near Dromore, a few miles south of Belfast. |
| Jane Potts, b. ca. 1668, Llangurig, Montgomeryshire,
Wales Elizabeth Potts, b. ca. 1666, Llangurig, Montgomeryshire, Wales; d. 1690, Philadelphia, PA; Anne Pott, b. bef. 1630; John Pott, b. bef. 1630 Elizabeth Pott, b. bef. 1650 Thomas Pott, b. bef. 1650, Wales; d. bef. 1683, Wales; It is believed that after her husband died, she brought her seven children to America and settled in Pennsylvania before 1683 when the last name became Potts. It is believed that she sailed in one of two voyages directed by William Penn either in 1681 or 1682. George Pott, b.bef. 1650 Margaret Pott, b. bef. 1650 Susie Trimble Potts Ann Pott, b. bef. 1650 Sarah Pott, b. bef. 1650 Thomas Pott Alice Pott, b. bef. 1650 Elizabeth (nee unk., b. bef. 1650, Wales; d. in America; It is believed that after her husband died she brought her seven children to America and settled in Pennsylvania before 1683 when the last name became Potts. It is believed that she sailed in one of two voyages directed by William Penn either in 1681 or 1682. Jonas Potts, b. ca.1662, Llangurig, Montgomeryshire, Wales; bd. Loudoun Co., VA; NOTE THERE IS EVIDENCE, BOTH HISTORIC AND TRADITIONAL, THAT THE POTTS FAMILY CAME TO PENNSYLVANIA WITH WILLIAM PENN, WHO AS RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING MANY OF THE PERSECUTED QUAKERS TO AMERICA. PENN MADE HIS FIRST VOYAGE IN 1682, BUT WAS PRECEDED BY OTHER SHIPS WHICH HE HAD SENT IN 1681. JONAS WAS A RESIDENT OF GERMANTOWN IN PHILADELPHIA COUNTY, PENNA. AND LATER SETTLED NEAR ROYERSFORD IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY, PENNA. HE IS FIRST FOUND IN PENNSYLVANIA RECORDS IN 1686 AS A WITNESS TO THE MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE OF HIS SISTER, JANE POTTS TO JOHN AUSTIN. His two wives were both named Mary. Elizabeth Potts, b. ca.1690, Germantown, Philadelphia, PA, ________________, b. ennsylvania; m. WILLIAM HEALD, August 15, 1719, Philadelphia, PA; Thomas Potts, b. ca. 1660, Llangurig, Montgomeryshire, Wales; d. 3 Oct 1719, PA; Joseph C. Potts, b. 16 Dec 1864, St. Francisville, Lawrence Co., IL; d. 12 Jan 1935 David Potts, b. ca. 1670, Montgomeryshire, Wales; d. 16 Nov 1730, Philadelphia, PA; m. 22 Jan 1692/93 in Middletown, Dauphin Co., PA, to Alice Croasdale; Margaret Potts, b. ca. 1664, Llangurig, Montgomeryshire, Wales; Jane Potts, b. ca. 1668, Llangurig, Montgomeryshire, Wales Elizabeth Potts, b. ca. 1666, Llangurig, Montgomeryshire, Wales; d. 1690, Philadelphia, PA; Anne Pott, b. bef. 1630; John Pott, b. bef. 1630 Elizabeth Pott, b. bef. 1650 Thomas Pott, b. bef. 1650, Wales; d. bef. 1683, Wales; It is believed that after her husband died, she brought her seven children to America and settled in Pennsylvania before 1683 when the last name became Potts. It is believed that she sailed in one of two voyages directed by William Penn either in 1681 or 1682. George Pott, b.bef. 1650 Margaret Pott, b. bef. 1650 Susie Trimble Potts Ann Pott, b. bef. 1650 Sarah Pott, b. bef. 1650 Thomas Pott Alice Pott, b. bef. 1650 Elizabeth (nee unk., b. bef. 1650, Wales; d. in America; It is believed that after her husband died she brought her seven children to America and settled in Pennsylvania before 1683 when the last name became Potts. It is believed that she sailed in one of two voyages directed by William Penn either in 1681 or 1682. Jonas Potts, b. ca.1662, Llangurig, Montgomeryshire, Wales; bd. Loudoun Co., VA; NOTE THERE IS EVIDENCE, BOTH HISTORIC AND TRADITIONAL, THAT THE POTTS FAMILY CAME TO PENNSYLVANIA WITH WILLIAM PENN, WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR BRINGING MANY OF THE PERSECUTED QUAKERS TO AMERICA. PENN MADE HIS FIRST VOYAGE IN 1682, BUT WAS PRECEDED BY OTHER SHIPS WHICH HE HAD SENT IN 1681. JONAS WAS A RESIDENT OF GERMANTOWN IN PHILADELPHIA COUNTY, PENNA. AND LATER SETTLED NEAR ROYERSFORD IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY, PENNA. HE IS FIRST FOUND IN PENNSYLVANIA RECORDS IN 1686 AS A WITNESS TO THE MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE OF HIS SISTER, JANE POTTS TO JOHN AUSTIN. His two wives were both named Mary. Elizabeth Potts, b. ca.1690, Germantown, Philadelphia, PA, ________________, b. ennsylvania; m. WILLIAM HEALD, August 15, 1719, Philadelphia, PA; Thomas Potts, b. ca. 1660, Llangurig, Montgomeryshire,
Wales;
d. 3 Oct 1719, PA; |
| Sally Tipton, b. ca. 1826, IN; Lydia Tipton, b. ca. 1828, IN; Isom Gwin Tipton, b. 1 Mar 1822, IN; d. 21 Jul 1904, New Albany, IN; bd. Corydon Chapel, Harrison Co., IN; Joshua Tipton, b. ca. 1746, Baltimore, MD; d. 18 Sep 1793, Sevier Co., TN; Joseph Tipton, b. ca. 1795, Baltimore Co., MD; d. bef. 1828, Bartholomew Co., IN; Mordecai Price Tipton, b. 18 Apr 1724, Baltimore Co., MD; d. ca. 1772 (W.prb.20apr1772), Baltimore, Baltimore Co., MD; bd. 20 Apr 1772 Rhonda Tipton, b. ca. 1784, Shields Fort, Sevier Co., TN; John Shields Tipton, b. ca. 1786, Shields Fort, Sevier Co., TN; d. ca. 5 Apr 1839, Logansport, Cass Co., IN; bd. 7 Apr 1839 Logansport, Cass Co., N; Agnes Tipton, b. ca. 1788, Shields Fort, Sevier Co., TN; Elizabeth Tipton, b. ca. 1793, Shields Fort, Sevier Co., TN; Mary Emma Tipton, b. 12 Jul 1867IN; William Tipton, b. 27 Jul 1696, Baltimore Co., MD; d. 6 May 1726, Baltimore Co., MD; Jonothon Tipton, b. 1669, Pontesford, Pontesbury, Shropshire, England; d. 27 Jan 1757, Baltimore, Baltimore Co., MD; William Tipton, b. ca. 1726, Baltimore Co., MD; Sarah Tipton, b. 30 Oct 1722, Baltimore Co., MD; d. 1785, Baltimore, MD; Samuel Tipton, b. 13 May 1721, Baltimore Co., MD; d. 1804, Baltimore Co., MD; Samuel Tipton, b. ca. 1747, Baltimore Co., MD; Richard Gott Tipton, b. ca. 1749, Baltimore Co., MD; Gerrard Tipton, b. ca. 1751, Baltimore Co., MD; Sarah Meredith Tipton, b. ca. 1753, Baltimore Co., MD; Susannah Tipton, b. ca. 1755, Baltimore Co., MD; Sylvestor Tipton, b. ca. 1760, Baltimore, MD; Joseph Tipton, b. 1758, Baltimore, MD; John Tipton, b. ca. 1752, Baltimore, MD; William Tipton, b. 1 Jan 1754, Baltimore, MD; Jonathon Tipton, b. ca. 1756, Baltimore, MD; William Tipton Clarissa Thurston, b. ca. 1814 |
| Paul Ernest Walker, b. 29 Apr 1923; d. 1 Jan 1924; bd.
Compton
Cem., Allendale, IL; Elizabeth Walker Frank Walker, b. 9 Dec 1921, Patton, IL; d. 1986, Indianapolis, IN; Robert Otho Walker, b. 13 Nov 1916, Allendale, IL; d. 11 Aug 1980, Knoxville, TN;bd. Oak Ridge Mem. Gardens, Oak Ridge, TN Thomas Walker Isham Gwin Walker, b. 1815, Blount Co., TN; Annette Walker, b. 8 Oct 1942 Charles Leroy Walker, b. 24 Dec 1945 Robert Joe Walker, b. 25 May 1947 Candace Sue "Susie" or "Candy" Walker, b. 27 Aug 1949 Karen Ann Walker, b. 28 Jul 1954, Indianapolis, IN Linda Rae Walker, b. 16 Aug 1956, Indianapolis, IN Betty Ann Walker, b. 27 May 1960, Indianapolis, IN James Walker John Walker, II, b. ca. 1677; Wigton, Scotland; d. Sep 1734, Chester Cty., PA; bd. Nottingham Meeting House, Nottingham, Cester Cty., PA; John Walker, b. ca. 1727, Washington Co., VA; d. 1796 Meadow Creek, Green Co., TN; m. Mary Anderson, b. 1735 Washington Co., VA; William Henry Walker, b. 13 May 1882 near French Lick, IN; d. 10 Sep 1945 in Hospital at Evansville, IN of strangulated hernia; bd. St. Francisville, IL, Cem.; m. Genevera Potts (b. 2 Jan 1888; d. 6 Apr 1967; no known relation to Shelby Lemon Walker's wife, Beulah Fern); Lafayette Walker,b. 8 Aug 1908; lived in Allendale, IL 62410--phone was 299-4041 Adrian Walker, b. 30 Dec 1909; last known address: 424 Pleasant St., Stoughton, MA 020702 Melvin Walker, b. 24 Oct 1919; last known address: 727 Pear St., Mt. Carmel, IL 62863; m. Emma Dicus, b. 3 Dec 1890; d. 1 May 1961, Grayville, IL; bd. at Grayville, IL; Mildred Lucinda Walker, b. 5 Dec 1912; last known address is: 700B Water St., Grayville, IL 62844; m.Mr. Zinn Donald Walter Walker, b. 21 Dec 1914; last known address: PO Box 829, Kimball, NE 69145 Thomas Jefferson Walker, b. 14 Oct 1916; James Richard Walker, b. 11 Jan 1918 Mary Josephine Walker, b. 17 Jan 1921; last known address: RFD #2, Mattoon, IL 61938; m. Mr. Martin; Edwin Franklin Walker, b. 8 Oct 1922; d. 16 Oct 1922 Elmer Eugene Walker, b. 20 Jan 1924; last known to be living in Texas; Wilma Alberta Walker, b. 1 Nov 1925; last known address is: 121 N. Hazelwood, Spearman, TX 79081; m. Mr. Peach Walter Hunter Walker, b. 23 Apr 1887 near French Lick, IN; d. 30 Sep 1945 at Grayville, IL; COD: cancer of the abdomen; bd. at Grayville, IL Evelyn Louisa Walker, b. 11 Apr 1911; last known address: RR #2, Albion, IL 62806; m. Mr. Marriot; Mary "Polly" Walker, b. 3 Dec 2005; Charles Wilson Walker, b. 17 Dec 1918, Allendale, IL; d. 24 Mar 1958, Chicago, IL; bd. at Chapel Hill Gardens, Wheaton, IL; Francis Marion Walker, b. 25 Oct 1919, Allendale, IL; Anderson Walker, b. Billy Joe Walker, b. 3 Apr 1927, Patton, IL; John Eugene Walker, b. 23 Apr 1934 Jerry Lee Walker, b. 22 Apr 1937 Otho Stephen Walker, b. 3 Nov 1893, Orange Co., IN; d. ca. 1 Dec 1969, Oak Ridge, TN; bd. in Allendale, IL; m. Willie Mae "Wilma" Abbott, b. 18 Jul 1901, Lenoir City, Loudon Co., TN; d. 13 Jun 1967; bd at Elmwood Cem., Hammond, IN; Otho's notes: Funeral bill: Undertaker's complete services $1181.00; Preacher: $20.00; Flowers: $35.00; grave donated by Ruth Graham; Wilma's girlhood home was in Knoxville, Maryville, Townsend, Lenoir City, Sevierville, Cade's Cove, and Wear Valley in Tennessee. Wilma had three aunts who were the last people living in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. Their last name was Walker, and the Walker Sisters' Cabin is still standing, preserved above the Metcalf Bottoms area near the road to Wear's Cove. John Isham Walker, b. 3 Jan 1904, Timberville, Wabash Co., IL; d. 21 Jan 1967, Allendale, IL; COD: cancer; funeral was at King and Ingram Funeral Home, Allendale, IL; pall bearers were Randal Payne, Marshall Price, Harry Gher, Arthur Keneipp, Rollie Osmon, and Scott Clark; m1. unk.; m2. Louise (nee unk.; b. 13 Jan 1907 Clara C. Walker, b. 25 Apr 1889; d. 6 Oct 1889 Emma Tolliver Walker, b. 9 Apr 1891; d. 1 Oct 1973 Jessie Ellen Walker, b. 9 Feb 1896; d. 1 Oct 1976 Susie May Walker, b. 22 Apr 1898; d. ca. 1 Jan 1972 Samuel Walker, b. 17 Jan 1901; d. 17 Jan 1901; Mahalia Walker, b. Matthew Frank Walker Christopher David Walker Cynthia Leigh Walker Thomas Frank Walker, b. 3 Aug 1964, Indianapolis, IN Mark Robert Walker John Alexander Walker, b. 1647, Wigton, Scotland Thomas "Thundering Tom" Walker, Sr., b. 1765, Washington Co., (VA? TN?); d.1830, Blount Co., TN; Thomas Walker, a wounded veteran of the Revolutionary War, was the first of our ancestors to move to Blount Co., TN, along with his family in the early 1800's. One researcher states the birthplace of Thomas is Washington Co., NC. Ina King gives TN. [JMG Note: Both are probably correct, since Washington Co., NC, became Washington Co., TN, in 1796.]; m. Elizabeth Magill (b. ca. 1755, VA; d. 1830/1840, Blount Co., TN; |
| Benjamin Weathers, b. ca. 1788, TN; d.
14 Sep
1881, Crawford Co., IN; bd. Walton Cem., Washington Co., IN; Warden Weathers, b. ca. 1829, Crawford Co., IN; d. 2 DATE 1861IN; Manerva Weathers, b. 2 Dec 2005; Nancy Jane Weathers Eliza Weathers, b. 8 Mar 1831, Crawford Co., IN; d. 24 Dec 1919, Crawford Co., IN; bd. Hardinsburg Cem, Washington Co., IN; Hannah Weathers, b. 30 Apr 1836, Crawford Co., IN; d. 24 Jul 1920, Crawford Co., IN; bd. Union Chapel, Crawford Co. ,IN; |
| 22.00--Isom Gwin, b. ca. 1764 in VA; d. ca. Dec 1830 in Orange Co., IN; m1. 30 Aug 1787 in Montgomery Co., VA, to Mary Canterbury (d/o Samuel Canterbury; b. ca. 1767 in Montgomery Co., VA; d. aft. 1850 Orange Co., IN). |
23.01--Polly Gwin, b. ca. 1787; d. bef. 1855 when her dad's will was finally probated; m. Thomas Walker, Jr., (b. 1791/95 Blount Co., TN; d. ; bd. ; m. ;) 9 known ch. 24.01--Isom Gwin Walker, b. ca. 1815 (65 in 1880) in TN m. ca. 1835 (from children's ages in 1850) in IN to Clarissa (nee unk., b. Mass); 11 known ch.25.01--Mary A. Walker, b. ca. 1836 (14 in 1850) 25.10--Emily N. Walker, b. ca. 1856 (4 in 1860)24.02--Elizabeth Walker, b. |
Modified Register for Isom Gwin
22.00--Isom Gwin, b. ca. 1764 in VA; d. ca. Dec 1830 in Orange Co., IN; m1. 30 Aug 1787 in Montgomery Co., VA, to Mary Canterbury (d/o Samuel Canterbury; b. ca. 1767 in Montgomery Co., VA; d. aft. 1850 Orange Co., IN);11 ch.
23.01--Polly Gwin, b. 1787 in TN; d. 3 Apr 1855 in IN; m. 1810/1812 in TN to Thomas "Tom" Walker, Jr. (b. 1789 in Meadow Creek, Greene Co., TN, s/o Thomas Walker, Sr. and Elizabeth Magill; d. 3 Apr 1855 in IN; Thomas resided in 1820 in Harrison Co., IN; 9 ch,;24.01--Isham Gwin Walker, b. 1815;23.02--04 F ii. Elizabeth Gwin 3 was born about 1787 in Tn. She died before 1860 in , Orange Co., Ind. She was buried before 1860 in , Orange Co., Ind.
24.02--Elizabeth Walker, b. ;
24.03--James Walker, b. ;
24.04--Thomas Walker, b. ;
24.05--Mary "Polly" Walker, b. ;
24.06--Anderson Walker, b. ;
John, My findings say you and Vernon are 4th cousins once removed, that Vern is the 3rd great grandson of Isham Ison Gwin and Mary Canterbury.
22.00--Isham/Isom Gwin-Mary Canterbury------------------------------------great-great-great-grandfather
23.00--Thomas Walker-Polly Gwin----------------------------------------------great-great-grandfather
24.06--Anderson Walker-Margaret Ann Butler-------------------------------great-grandfather25.00--Thomas Walker-Isabelle Lavina Cramer------------------------------grandfather24.07--Mahalia Walker, b. ; m. unk.;26.00--Melvin Cramer Walker-Elizabeth Margaret Nickols ------------ father27.00--Vernon Eugene Walker-1st Betsy Nancy Andrus--2nd Carolynn Elizabeth Driver, Clauson
24.08--Huston Walker, b. ;
24.09--Manerva J. Walker, b. 1825 (probably 1833); d. 5 Nov 1856;23.00--Virginia Jane Gwin, b. ca. 1795 in TN; d. bef. 1880 in Crawford Co., IN; bd. bef. 1880 in Walton Cem., Washington Co., IN; m1. Joseph Tipton (b. ca. 1795 in Baltimore Co., MD, s/o Joshua Tipton and Janet Shields; d. bef. 1828 in Bartholomew Co., IN;); 3 ch. (8 tot.);
24.01--Sally Tipton, b. ca. 1826 in IN;VJGT m2. 22 Dec 1827 In Orange Co., IN, to Benjamin Weathers (b. ca. 1788 in TN; d. 14 Sep 1881 in Crawford Co., IN; bd. in Walton Cem., Washington Co., IN); 5 ch. (8 tot.)
24.02--Lydia Tipton, b. ca. 1828 in IN;
24.03--Isom Gwin Tipton, b. 1 Mar 1822; d. 21 Jul 1904;24.04--Warden Weathers, b. ;born about 1829 in Crawford Co. in. He died in 1861 in In.VJGT m3. Mr. Tipton;
24.05--Manerva Weathers, b. ;
24.06--Nancy Jane Weathers, b. ;
24.07--Eliza Weathers, b. ; born on 8 Mar 1831 in Crawford Co. in. She died on 24 Dec 1919 in Crawford Co. in. She was buried in Hardinsburg Cem, Washington Co., in.
24.08--Hannah Weathers, b. ;born on 30 Apr 1836 in Crawford Co. in. She died on 24 Jul 1920 in Crawford Co. in. She was buried in Union Chapel, Crawford Co., in.
Sources 1. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R).
2. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R).
23.03--12 M iii. John Gwin, b. 7 Nov 1792 in Greene? Co., Tn; d. 7 Mar 1877 in Wilsonville, al; m. Jane Walker (d/o Thomas Walker Sr. and Elizabeth Magill on 8 Apr 1812 in Blount Co., Tn. Jane b. 1792? in Greene Co.?, Tn. She died in 1867? in Cahaba, Dallas, al.
23.04--5 F iv. Gwin 4 was born about 1793 in <, Montgomery Co., Va>. She died before 3 Apr 1855 in , , Ind.
23.05--+ 6 F v. Virginia Jane Gwin was born about 1795. She died before 1880.
23.06--7 M vi. Isom Gwin Jr. 5 was born about 1797 in <, , Tenn>. ??? Isom married (2) Mary Likens in 1819 in Harrison Co., in. Mary died in 1852 in Orange Co., in.???
23.07--8 F vii. Gwin 6 was born about 1799 in <, , Tenn>.
23.08--9 M viii. Richard Walton Gwin 7 was born on 30 Jan 1804 in Lincoln Co., Tn.
23.09--2.1--10 F ix. Nancy Gwin 8 was born about 1805 in , Kentucky. She died before 1860 in , Brown, Illinois.
23.10--11 F x. Sarah Gwin 9 was born about 1805 in <, , Tenn>.
23.11--12 F xi. Manerva Gwin m. Mr. Wright
Sources: 1. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R), Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998,
data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
2-9. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R).
Carolynn Elizabeth Walker <mailto:c.ewalker@verizon.net> Tigard, Oregon 97223 A-United States (503) 639-2870
Third Generation
24.00--Isham Gwin Walker (Polly Gwin, Isom) b. 1815 in Blount Co., TN; m. 13 Jan 1835 in Martin Co., IN, to Clarissa Thurston ( b. ca. 1814 in MA or IN; d. unk.); 11 ch.
25.01--Mary A. Walker, b. ca. 1836 in IN;24.00--Manerva J. Walker (Polly Gwin, Isom) b. 1825 in IN; d. 5 Nov 1856 in Martin Co., IN; m. 10 Dec 1846 in Martin Co., IN, to John William Simmons, Jr. (b. 1 Mar 1826 in Lost River, Martin Co., IN, s/o John William Simmons, Sr. and Elizabeth Conrad; d. 1875); got marr. lic. 12 Oct 1846 in Martin Co., IN; appears on 1830 Census of Martin Co., IN, age under 5, in household of John Simmons; appears on the 1870 Census of Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN, age 46; a John Simmons is listed in the 1850 Rutherford Twp., Martin Co., IN Census;
25.02--Sarah Ann Walker, b. ca. 1837;
25.03--Susan Walker, b. ca. 1839 in IN;
25.04--George W. Walker, b. ca. 1842 in IN;
25.05--James Walker, b. ca. 1844 in IN;
25.06--Amelia Walker, b. ca. 1847 in IN;
25.07--Isham Gwin Walker, b. 16 Jan 1850; d. 26 Aug 1918;
25.08--Clarissa J. Walker, b. ca. 1851;
25.09--Thomas Thurston Walker, b. 22 Oct 1854; d. 15 Jan 1926;
25.10--Emily N. Walker, b. ca. 1855 in IN;
25.11--Laura Walker, b. ca. 1858 in IN; m. T. Milton McKittrick (b. );
1870 Census Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN24.00--Isom Gwin Tipton, b. 1 Mar 1822 in IN; d. 21 Jul 1904 in New Albany, IN; bd. in Corydon Chapel, Harrison Co., IN; m. 29 Oct 1847 to Mary Emma Murr (b. 20 Feb 1830 in Woodstock, VA, d/o George Murr and Catherine Hamman; d. 6 Apr 1876 in Corydon Chapel, Harrison Co., IN; They had the following children:
Simmons John 46 IN Lost River 343
Simmons Owen 18 IN Lost River 343
Simmons Patrick 16 IN Lost River 343
Simmons Mary 14 IN Lost River 343
Simmons Elizabeth 13 IN Lost River 34325.01--Ann Simmons, b. 2 Jan 1849; d. 1951
25.02--Elza Jane Simmons, b. 3 Jul 1849 in Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN; d. 1870; m. 4 Aug 1868 in Martin Co., IN, to Lewis Hendrickson (b. );
25.03--William Owen Simmons, b. 10 Apr 1851; d. 1905;
25.04--Patrick Simmons, b. Jan 1853; d. aft. 1889;
25.05--Elizabeth Simmons, b. 15 May 1856 in Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN; appears on the 1870 Census of Lost River Twp., Martin Co., IN, age 13; birth also listed as b. abt. 1853; m. George Davidson
25.06--Mary Ellen Simmons, b.
25.00--47 F i. Mary Emma Tipton was born on 12 Jul 1867 in In.
Mary married Edward Wesley Dierking on 9 Feb 1887/1888. Edward was born on 19 Sep 1859. He died on 19 Mar 1942. He was buried in Walnut Ridge Cem, Jeffersonville, In.Sources:01. 1860 US Census Lost River Twp. Martin Co., IN.
02. 1850 US Census Columbia Twp. Martin Co., IN.
03. 1850 US Census Columbia Twp. Martin Co., IN.
04. 1860 US Census Lost River Twp. Martin Co., IN.
05. 1850 US Census Columbia Twp. Martin Co., IN.
06. 1860 US Census Lost River Twp. Martin Co., IN.
07. 1860 US Census Lost River Twp. Martin Co., IN.
08. 1850 US Census Columbia Twp. Martin Co., IN.
09. 1860 US Census Lost River Twp. Martin Co., IN.
10. 1860 US Census Lost River Twp. Martin Co., IN.
11. 1850 US Census Columbia Twp. Martin Co., IN.
12. 1860 US Census Lost River Twp. Martin Co., IN.
13. 1850 US Census Columbia Twp. Martin Co., IN.
14. 1860 US Census Lost River Twp. Martin Co., IN.
15. 1860 US Census Lost River Twp. Martin Co., IN.
16. 1880 US Census Lost River Twp. Martin Co., IN.
17. Tom Green@tptexas@erols.com.
18. Tom Green@tptexas@erols.com.
36. Isham Gwin Walker (Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born1,2,3 on 16 Jan 1850 in Columbia Twp. Martin Co., in. He died on 26 Aug 1918 in Pamunky, New Kent, Va. Isham married Margaret Ellen Childers on 25 Sep 1873 in Martin Co., in. Margaret was born4 on 15 Oct 1851 in In. She died on 18 Jul 1919 in Pamunky, New Kent, Va. They had the following children:
48 F i. Laura Walker was born5 about 1873.38. Thomas Thurston Walker (Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born8 on 22 Oct 1854 in Richland County, Il. He died on 15 Jan 1926 in Wabash County, Il. Died of heart attack while in field husking corn. Buried in Compton Cemetary; Thomas married Lucinda Riley 9 daughter of John L. Riley and Catherine Stockinger on 14 Dec 1884 in Martin County, in. Lucinda was born on 28 Apr 1858 in Near French Lick, in, Jackson Twp. Orange Cty, in. She died on 25 Feb 1945 in Allendale, Wabash County, Il. She was related to her parents by adoption. Buried in Compton Cemetary. Thomas and Lucinda had the following children:49 F ii. Beth (Ruth?) Walker was born6 about 1876 in In.
50 F iii. Mary E. Walker was born7 about 1877 in In.
+ 51 M iv. John Arthur Walker was born on 30 May 1886. He died in 1955.
+ 52 M i. William Henry Walker was born on 13 May 1882. He died on 10 Sep 1945.+ 53 M ii. Shelby Lemon Walker was born on 3 Sep 1885. He died on 5 Jun 1948.
+ 54 M iii. Walter Hunter Walker was born on 23 Apr 1887. He died on 30 Sep 1945.
55 F iv. Clara C. Walker was born on 25 Apr 1889. She died on 6 Oct 1889.
56 F v. Emma Tolliver Walker was born on 9 Apr 1891. She died about 1 Oct 1973. Verify date of death.
57 M vi. Otho Stephen Walker was born on 3 Nov 1893 in Orange County, in. He died about 1 Dec 1969 in Oak Ridge, Tn. Buried in Allendale, IL Verify exact date of death. Otho married Willie Mae "Wilma" Abbott daughter of John Horace Abbott and Mary Jane (Sophia J?) Compton. Willie was born on 18 Jul 1901 in Lenoir City, Loudon Co. Tn. She died on 13 Jun 1967. Buried at Elmwood Cemetery, Hammond, IN; Otho's notes: Funeral bill: Undertaker's complete services--$1181.00; Preacher--$20.00; Flowers--$35.00; Grave donated by Ruth Graham.
Wilma's girlhood home was in Knoxville, Maryville, Townsend, Lenoir City, Sevierville, Cades Cove, and Wears Valley in Tennessee.58 F vii. Jessie Ellen Walker was born on 9 Feb 1896. She died about 1 Oct 1976.Verify date of death.Wilma had three aunts who were the last people living in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park. Their last name was Walker, and the Walker Sisters' Cabin is still standing preserved above the Metcalf Bottoms area near the road to Wear's Cove.
59 F viii. Susie May Walker was born on 22 Apr 1898. She died about 1 Jan 1972. Verify date of death
60 M ix. Samuel Walker was born on 17 Jan 1901. He died on 17 Jan 1901.
61 M x. John Isham Walker was born on 3 Jan 1904 in Timberville, Wabash County, Il. He died on 21 Jan 1967 in Allendale, Il. Died of cancer. Funeral was at King and Ingram Funeral Home, Allendale, IL; Pall bearers were Randal Payne, Marshall Price, Harry Gher, Arthur Keneipp, Rollie Osmon, and Scott Clark. m2. Louise (maiden name unknown) was the second wife. First wife unknown. John married Louise . Louise was born on 13 Jan 1907.
43. William Owen Simmons (Manerva J. Walker,
Polly Gwin, Isom) was born10 on 10 Apr 1851 in Lost River Twp.,
Martin
Co., in. He died in 1905. appears on the in 1870 Census of Lost River
Twp.,
Martin Co., in. Age 18 He was counted in a census11 in 1880
in Lost River, Martin, Indiana. William married (1) Josephine
Nickerson
on 8 Nov 1875. Josephine was born12 on 4 Dec 1854 in Hillham,
Dubois
Co., in. She died in 1892. Josephine was counted in a census13 in
1880 in Lost River, Martin, Indiana. They had the following children:
62 F i. Mary E. Simmons "Molly" was born14 on 27 Feb 1876 in Martin Co., in. She died in 1955. She had other parents.Mary was counted in a census15 in 1880 in Lost River, Martin, Indiana. Mary married (1) Wes . Wes was born in 1874. He died in 1959. Mary married (2) Unknown .William married (2) Sara Archer on 17 Mar 1898 in Martin Co., in. Sara was born on 6 Sep 1859. She died in 1935. They had the following children:63 M ii. John R. Simmons was born on 1 Sep 1877 in Martin Co., in. He died in 1878. He had other parents.
64 M iii. Thomas Elza Simmons was born16 on 1 Sep 1879 in Martin Co., in. He died in 1956. He had other parents.Thomas was counted in a census17 in 1880 in Lost River, Martin, Indiana; Thomas married (1) Mable Seneff in 1905; m2. Sophia M. Jones on 20 Sep 1909 in Orange Co., in. Sophia was born on 14 Nov 1890. She died in 1966; m3. Unknown in 1905.
65 F iv. Rilla S Simmons was born on 31 Aug 1882 in Martin Co., in. She died in 1895. She had other parents.
66 F v. Axie Mayme Simmons was born on 4 May 1885 in Martin Co., in. She died in 1978. She had other parents. Axie married (1) Unknown in 1951. Axie married (2) William A. Torrance in 1951. William was born in Childress, Tx. + 67 M vi. Ray Franklin Simmons was born on 8 Oct 1887. He died on 3 Apr 1970.
68 F vii. Rose Belle Simmons was born on 10 Feb 1890 in Martin Co., in. She died in 1956. She had other parents. Rose married (1) Samuel Ryan Robbins . Samuel was born on 30 Apr 1892. He died in 1963. Rose married (2) Unknown .
69 M viii. Roy W. Simmons was born on 24 Feb 1899 in Martin Co., in. Roy married Kathleen Early on 30 Jan 1926 in Orange Co., in. Kathleen44. Patrick Simmons (Manerva J. Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born18 in Jan 1853 in Lost River, Martin, in. He died after 1889; appears on the in 1870 Census of Lost River Twp., Martin Co., in. Age 16 He was counted in a census19 in 1880 in Lost River, Martin, Indiana. appears on the in 1900 Census of , , In.; Simmons Patrick Eliza Stone Aprl 19 1888 5 126; Simmons Patrick Elizabeth C Jones Oct 1 1882 4 366; BIRTH: Birth also listed as abt. 1854; Patrick married (1) Elizabeth C. Jones on 1 Oct 1882 in Martin Co., in. Elizabeth was born20 in <1856> in Tn. She died in 1885/1889 in prob. Martin Co., in.; Elizabeth was counted in a census21 in 1880 in Lost River, Martin, Indiana.; They had the following children:...1968.
Grace married Ollie P. Manford . Ollie was born on 8 Apr 1891 in Indianapolis, Marion Co., in. He died in 1963.
71 i. Jara B. Simmons was born on 10 Oct 1885 in Martin Co., in.Patrick Simmons m2. Eliza A. Stone Aprl 19 1888 in Martin Co., in. Eliza was born in Nov 1855. They had the following children:
72 ii. Clarence Simmons was born on 25 Feb 1889 in Martin Co., in.46. Mary Ellen Simmons (Manerva J. Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom); m. Thomas J. Jones; 1 ch.73 M iii. Wallace Simmons was born in Jan 1891 in Indiana.
74 F iv. Emma Simmons was born in Mar 1893 in Indiana.
75 F v. Mary Simmons was born in Jun 1897 in Indiana.
+ 76 M i. James Patrick Jones was born on 3 Aug 1881. He died on 3 Mar 1935.
Sources1. 1860 US Census Lost River Twp. Martin Co., IN.
2. 1850 US Census Columbia Twp. Martin Co., IN.
3. 1880 US Census Cannelburg, Daviess Co., IN.
4. 1880 US Census Cannelburg, Daviess Co., IN.
5. 1880 US Census Cannelburg. Daviess Co., IN.
6. 1880 US Census Cannelburg. Daviess Co., IN.
7. 1880 US Census Cannelburg. Daviess Co., IN.
8. 1860 US Census Lost River Twp. Martin Co., IN.
9. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (R).
10. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1880 United States Census, Copyright (c) 2000, 2002 FamilySearch (TM) Internet Genealogy Service, April 21, 2003, FHL Film 1254298; National Archives Film T9-0298; Page 316A, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
11. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1880 United States Census, FHL Film 1254298; National Archives Film T9-0298; Page 316A."Extract: 1880 United States CensusCensus Place: Lost River, Martin, IndianaSource: FHL Film 1254298; National Archives Film T9-0298; Page 316AHousehold: Rel Sex Marr Race Age BirthplaceWm. O. SIMMONS Self Male M W 29 IN Occ: Farmer Fa: IN Mo: INJosephine SIMMONS Wife Female M W 26 IN Occ: Keeping House Fa: IN Mo: INMary E. SIMMONS Dau Female S W 4 IN Fa: IN Mo: INThomas E. SIMMONS Son Male S W 1 IN Fa: IN Mo: INPatrick SIMMONS Brother Male S W 27 IN Occ: Works On Farm Fa: IN Mo: IN."
12. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1880 United States Census, FHL Film 1254298; National Archives Film T9-0298; Page 316A.
13. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1880 United States Census, FHL Film 1254298; National Archives Film T9-0298; Page 316A."Extract: 1880 United States CensusCensus Place: Lost River, Martin, IndianaSource: FHL Film 1254298; National Archives Film T9-0298; Page 316AHousehold: Rel Sex Marr Race Age BirthplaceWm. O. SIMMONS
Self Male M W 29 IN Occ: Farmer Fa: IN Mo: INJosephine SIMMONS Wife Female M W 26 IN Occ: Keeping House Fa: IN Mo: INMary E. SIMMONS Dau Female S W 4 IN Fa: IN Mo: INThomas E. SIMMONS Son Male S W 1 IN Fa: IN Mo: INPatrick SIMMONS Brother Male S W 27 IN Occ: Works On Farm Fa: IN Mo: IN."
14. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1880 United States Census, FHL Film 1254298; National Archives Film T9-0298; Page 316A.
15. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1880 United States Census, FHL Film 1254298; National Archives Film T9-0298; Page 316A."Extract: 1880 United States CensusCensus Place: Lost River, Martin, IndianaSource: FHL Film 1254298; National Archives Film T9-0298; Page 316AHousehold: Rel Sex Marr Race Age BirthplaceWm. O. SIMMONS Self Male M W 29 IN Occ: Farmer Fa: IN Mo: INJosephine SIMMONS Wife Female M W 26 IN Occ: Keeping House Fa: IN Mo: INMary E. SIMMONS Dau Female S W 4 IN Fa: IN Mo: INThomas E. SIMMONS Son Male S W 1 IN Fa: IN Mo: INPatrick SIMMONS Brother Male S W 27 IN Occ: Works On Farm Fa: IN Mo: IN."
16. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1880 United States Census, FHL Film 1254298; National Archives Film T9-0298; Page 316A.
17. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1880 United States Census, FHL Film 1254298; National Archives Film T9-0298; Page 316A."Extract: 1880 United States Census
Census Place: Lost River, Martin, IndianaSource: FHL Film 1254298; National Archives Film T9-0298; Page 316AHousehold: Rel Sex Marr Race Age BirthplaceWm. O. SIMMONS Self Male M W 29 IN Occ: Farmer Fa: IN Mo: INJosephine SIMMONS Wife Female M W 26 IN Occ: Keeping House Fa: IN Mo: INMary E. SIMMONS Dau Female S W 4 IN Fa: IN Mo: INThomas E. SIMMONS Son Male S W 1 IN Fa: IN Mo: INPatrick SIMMONS Brother Male S W 27 IN Occ: Works On Farm Fa: IN Mo: IN."
18. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1880 United States Census, FHL Film 1254298; National Archives Film T9-0298; Page 316A.
19. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1880 United States Census, FHL Film 1254298; National Archives Film T9-0298; Page 316A."Extract: 1880 United States CensusCensus Place: Lost River, Martin, IndianaSource: FHL Film 1254298; National Archives Film T9-0298; Page 316AHousehold: Rel Sex Marr Race Age BirthplaceWm. O. SIMMONS Self Male M W 29 IN Occ: Farmer Fa: IN Mo: INJosephine SIMMONS Wife Female M W 26 IN Occ: Keeping House Fa: IN Mo: INMary E. SIMMONS Dau Female S W 4 IN Fa: IN Mo: INThomas E. SIMMONS Son Male S W 1 IN Fa: IN Mo: INPatrick SIMMONS Brother Male S W 27 IN Occ: Works On Farm Fa: IN Mo: IN."
20. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1880 United States Census, Copyright (c) 2000, 2002 FamilySearch (TM) Internet Genealogy Service, April 18, 2003, FHL Film 1254298; National Archives Film T9-0298; Page 311C, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA.
21. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1880 United States Census, FHL Film 1254298; National Archives Film T9-0298; Page 311C."Extract: 1880 United States CensusCensus Place: Lost River, Martin, IndianaSource: FHL Film 1254298; National Archives Film T9-0298; Page 311CHousehold: Rel Sex Marr Race Age BirthplaceDaniel D. JONES Self Male W W 66 VA Occ: Farmer Fa: VA Mo: VAElizabeth C. JONES Dau Female S W 24 TN Occ: Keeps House Fa: VA Mo: NC."
51. John Arthur Walker (Isham Gwin Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born on 30 May 1886 in Columbia Twp. Martin Co., in. He died in 1955 in Barhamsville, New Kent, Va. John married Maude Lula May daughter of Robert Edgar May and Emma Frances Thompson on 20 Jan 1908 in Jasper, Dubois, in. Maude was born on 21 Oct 1890 in Jasper, Dubois, in. She died in 1947 in Barhamsville, New Kent, Va. They had the following children:
77 M i. John Walker was born on 26 Dec 1917 in Richmond, Henrico, Va. John married Addie Bell Stephens on 25 Mar 1944 in National Baptist Church, Washington, DC.52. William Henry Walker (Thomas Thurston Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born on 13 May 1882 in Near French Lick, in. He died on 10 Sep 1945 in Evansville, in. Died in Hospital at Evansville, IN of strangulated hernia. Buried at St. Francisville, IL Cemetery. William married Genevera Potts . Genevera was born on 2 Jan 1888 in Unknown. She died on 6 Apr 1967. No relation to Shelby Lemon Walker's wife, Beulah Fern. William and Genevera had the following children:
78 M i. Lafayette Walker was born on 8 Aug 1908. Lived in Allendale, IL 62410. Phone was 299-404153. Shelby Lemon Walker 1 (Thomas Thurston Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born on 3 Sep 1885 in Near French Lick, in. He died on 5 Jun 1948 in Claypool, in. Cause of death was compound ailments. Shelby married Beulah Fern Potts 2 daughter of Joseph C. Potts and Edna Smith. Beulah was born3 on 7 Jan 1891. She died4 in Jan 1976 in Warsaw, in. She was buried5 in Claypool, in. Beulah resided6 in Warsaw, in. Need to verify date and city of death. No relation to William Henry Walker's wife, Genevera. DEATH: Beulah was living with her son, Billy Joe Walker, in Warsaw, IN at the time of her death. Beulah: Beulah was living with her son, Bill, in Warsaw, IN at the time of her death. Residence: Beulah was living with her son, Bill, in Warsaw, IN at the time of her death. She owned a home in Claypool, IN near the railroad tracks, but lived with her sons Bill, Francis, and Frank for many years prior to her death in 1976. Shelby and Beulah had the following children:79 M ii. Adrian Walker was born on 30 Dec 1909. Last known address: Adrian Walker, 424 Pleasant Street, Stoughton, MA 020702
80 M iii. Melvin Walker was born on 24 Oct 1919. Last known address: Melvin Walker, 727 Pear Street, Mt. Carmel, IL 62863
81 M i. Robert Otho Walker was born on 13 Nov 1916 in Allendale, Il. He died on 11 Aug 1980 in Knoxville, Tn. Buried at Oak Ridge Memorial Gardens, Oak Ridge, TN; Robert married (1) Janice Elaine Snoke daughter of Floyd Daniel Snoke and Musa Elnora Wade. Janice was born on 6 Jan 1928 in St. Lukes Hospital, Chicago, Il. She died on 5 Dec 1983 in Park West Hospital, Knoxville, Tn. She was buried in Oak Ridge Memorial Park, Oak Ridge, Tn. Janice was a nurse. Robert married (2) Shirley Black . The marriage ended in divorce. Last known to be living in Missoula Montana, last name is now Blackman.54. Walter Hunter Walker (Thomas Thurston Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born on 23 Apr 1887 in Near French Lick, in. He died on 30 Sep 1945 in Grayville, Il. Buried at Grayville, IL; Cause of death was cancer of the abdomen; Walter married Emma Dicus . Emma was born on 3 Dec 1890. She died on 1 May 1961 in Grayville, Il.; Buried at Grayville, IL; Walter and Emma had the following children:+ 82 M ii. Charles Wilson Walker was born on 17 Dec 1918. He died on 24 Mar 1958.
+ 83 M iii. Francis Marion Walker was born on 25 Oct 1919.
+ 84 M iv. Frank Walker was born on 9 Dec 1921. He died in 1986.
85 M v. Paul Ernest Walker was born on 29 Apr 1923. He died on 1 Jan 1924. Buried at Compton Cemetery, Allendale, IL.
+ 86 M vi. Billy Joe Walker was born on 3 Apr 1927.
+ 87 M vii. John Eugene Walker was born on 23 Apr 1934.
88 M viii. Jerry Lee Walker was born on 22 Apr 1937.
+ 89 F i. Evelyn Louisa Walker was born on 11 Apr 1911.67. Ray Franklin Simmons (William Owen Simmons, Manerva J. Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born on 8 Oct 1887 in Lost River Twp., Martin Co., in. He died on 3 Apr 1970 in Irene and Paul Stackhouse's house. The cause of death was acute pulmonary edema. He was buried in Ames Chapel, 5 mi S. of Paoli Hwy 37. He had other parents. Ray was employed as Farmer. Cause of Death: Acute Pulmonary Edema [Family Tree 1.FTW] [NEWCAROL.FTW] The follow information is about Ray Franklin Simmons, my Father. signed Frank B. Simmons Note: This is a note received from Aida Nicholson, to Frank Burnell Simmons, received 12/12/1989. (This note is also in my Father's (Ray Franklin Simmons) file because of the mention of his Mother) Daniel was my father's brother, the oldest one. When Josephine died, Owen Simmons didn't know what to do until my Aunt Mary took them in. Mayme (Simmons) said she was kind to them, and kept them clean and well fed, but that the Nicholson's were not nice to her. Eventually she sold the farm and lived in a house on French Lick Hill. ***This is added by Frank Simmons....It is strange that she moved to French Lick and in particular that she lived on French Lick Hill, because this is the street directly behind my mother and father's (Ray Simmons, and Ethel Simmons) house many years later.*** I remember going to see her once or twice. Mother always sent me to Cuzco for the summers. I had to change trains at Orleans and French Lick. Must have been at least a two-hour wait in French Lick for me before my train took me to Cuzco. Aunt Mary was a sister to my Aunt "Burie" Minsour who married my uncle Lester, Mother's brother. She and my mother were friends as well as in-laws. I loved my aunt Burie. The Bagerly farm was next to Lester Winningers' father. Your great Aunt Mollie "Old Mrs Bagerly got in touch with the spirits. They would know on her bed and would make he rocking chair rock furiously. (Initialed by) ANR (meaning Aida Nicholson Roberts) Death Certificate was signed by Dr. Ben Sugarman, who was married to Margaret Kellams.Ray married (1) Ethel May Downer on 12 Jul 1913 in Tuscola, Il. Ethel was born on 10 Sep 1896 in Danville, Il. She died in 1972. They had the following children:90 F ii. Mildred Lucinda Walker was born on 5 Dec 1912; Mildred married Zinn Last known address is: 700B Water Street, Grayville, IL 62844
91 M iii. Donald Walter Walker was born on 21 Dec 1914. Last known address: PO Box 829, Kimball, NE 69145
92 M iv. Thomas Jefferson Walker was born on 14 Oct 1916.
93 M v. James Richard Walker was born on 11 Jan 1918.
94 F vi. Mary Josephine Walker was born on 17 Jan 1921. Mary married Martin. Last known address: RFD #2, Mattoon, IL 61938
95 M vii. Edwin Franklin Walker was born on 8 Oct 1922. He died on 16 Oct 1922.
96 M viii. Elmer Eugene Walker was born on 20 Jan 1924. Last known to be living in Texas.
97 F ix. Wilma Alberta Walker was born on 1 Nov 1925. Wilma married Peach. Last known address is: 121 N. Hazelwood, Spearman, TX 79081
98 F i. Mary Etta Simmons was born on 5 Dec 1915.REFN: 47111 Address: R.R. 3 Charlestown Indiana 47111 U.S.A. [Family Tree 1.FTW]99 F ii. Margaret Louise Simmons was born on 17 Aug 1918. She died on 17 Aug 1918.
100 F iii. Rose Edna Simmons was born on 1 Nov 1919 in Tulsa, Ok. Rose m1. Hillard Forest Graves on 4 Sep 1937 in house next to Wilmer and Loury Butler, French Lick, Orange co., in. Hillard was born on 10 Nov 1915 in Orange Co., in. Rose m2. Oliver Russell Dieterlen on 12 Aug 1962. Oliver was born on 22 Jan 1922.
101 F iv. Emma Irene Simmons was born in Dec 1921.76. James Patrick Jones "Pat"7 (Mary Ellen Simmons, Manerva J. Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born on 3 Aug 1881 in Shoals, Martin, Indiana. He died on 3 Mar 1935 in Linton Twp.,Green Co.,in. He was buried on 8 Mar 1935 in Edwardsport, Knox Co., in. He had other parents. James was counted in a census in 1900 in Columbia Twp., Dubois Co., in. appears on the in 1910 Census of Decker Twp., Knox Co in.+ 102 M v. William Owen Simmons was born on 19 Nov 1923. He died in Oct 1998.
103 M vi. Homer Charles Simmons was born on 24 Dec 1925.
104 M vii. Harry Samuel Simmons was born in 1928.
105 M viii. Living Simmons .
106 F ix. Living Simmons .
Resided Decker Twp., Knox Co., Indinana 1910James married Ollie Mae Street "Ollie"8,9 daughter of George R Street and Sarah Jane Seals on 30 Jul 1906 in Indiana. Ollie was born on 3 May 1888 in Shoals, Martin, Indiana. She died on 16 Oct 1970 in Somerset,Polasky Co.,Ky. She was buried on 17 Oct 1970 in Ioof Cem,Edwardsport,KNox Co.,in. She had other parents. Ollie resided in Indiana. She resided in Knox Co., in.
Resided 4512 East Eighteenth St. Indianapolis Marion Co., Indiana 1935
!Birth: Provided by dau. Ruth E. Jones Olsen before her death.
!Death: Provided by dau. Ruth E. Jones Olsen before her death.
!Marriage: Provided by dau. Ruth E. Jones Olsen before her death.
Birth date listed as 3 Aug 1882 on the marriage records of Knox Co IN
Birth: Provided by dau. Ruth Olsen before her death.m. Knox Co IN.
!Marriage: Provided by dau. Ruth Olsen before her death.
!Death: Provided by dau. Ruth Olsen before her death.
Name also Ollie Mae.
Family rumor has it that Ollie Mae, Charles Oscar, Sarah Catherine, and George Dewey were put in an orphanage for a while until their mother remarried, and, according to the dau of Charles Oscar Street, Charles said he believes they left one in the orphanage. According to dau. Ruth, Ollie had to lie about her age because she had to go to work at age 11. So 1900 Census stating she was 14 could be a lie.
She was born in Knox County (error--Martin County) on May 31, 1888 to William W. (error-George R.) and Sarah Jane (Seals) Street. She was married to James Patrick Jones, who died in 1935. She was a member of the Edwardsport Baptist Church.
Surviving are two daughters Mrs. Carl (Audrey) Hines, Sommerset and Mrs. Joe (Ruth) Olson, San Diego, Calif.; 10 grandchildren, 23 great-grandchildren; two great-great-grandchildren and a brother, George Street of Vincennes. Clure Funeral Home where funeral services will be held at 2 p.m. Monday. Burial will be in the Edwardsport Oddfellow's Cemetery. Friends may call at the funeral home after 1 p.m. Sunday.
An Ollie Jones b. 31 May 1888, d. Oct 1970, res. Burnside, Pulaski, KY, listed in the social security death index, 317-40-7566 in, issued bet. 1956 and 1957.
BIRTH: Birth also listed as 3 May 1888
The only memory I have of great-grandma is when she stayed with us once. And I only remember the back side of her. She shared my twin size bed with me, and I spent the whole night squished up against the wall. It was at the house on Darlington in Buena Park, and my bed was up against the wall just as you came in the bedroom door. I clearly remember seeing her very round form facing away from me in the dark. This must have been not too long before she died since I was born in 1961, we moved to the house on Darlington around 1965 when I was 4, and she died in 1970 right after I turned 9, but I was obviously just barely old enough to remember the visit. Therefore, it was probably when I was around 7 or so. TT
James and Ollie had the following children:
+ 107 F i. Ruth Evelyn Jones was born on 24 Nov 1913. She died on 22 Feb 1988.
Sources
1. Nancy Lane, Letter to Bill and Rita Walker, Sept 2004.
2. Nancy Lane, Letter to Bill and Rita Walker, Sept 2004.
3. SSDI.
4. Michael S. Walker, SSDI & personal attendance at the funeral.
5. Michael S. Walker, Personal attendance at the funeral.
6. Michael S. Walker, Beulah Residences.Beulah was living with her
son, Bill, in Warsaw, IN at the time of her death. She owned a
home
in Claypool, IN near the railroad tracks, but lived with her sons Bill,
Francis, and Frank for many years prior to her death in
1976.
7. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,
Ancestral
File (R).
8. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,
Ancestral
File (R).
9. #281 .
Sixth Generation
82. Charles Wilson Walker (Shelby Lemon Walker, Thomas Thurston Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born on 17 Dec 1918 in Allendale, Il. He died on 24 Mar 1958 in Chicago, Il.
Burried at Chapel Hill Gardens, Wheaton, IL
Charles married Ann .
They had the following children:
108 F i. Pam Walker 1 .She was related to her parents by
adoption.
Pam married Green .
83. Francis Marion Walker (Shelby Lemon Walker, Thomas Thurston Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born on 25 Oct 1919 in Allendale, Il. He died in Deceased.
Francis married Christine .
Maiden name unknown.
Francis and Christine had the following children:
109 M i. Annette Walker was born on 8 Oct 1942.
110 M ii. Charles Leroy Walker was born on 24 Dec 1945.
84. Frank Walker (Shelby Lemon Walker, Thomas Thurston Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born on 9 Dec 1921 in Patton, Il. He died in 1986 in Indianapolis, in.
Need to verify actual death date.
Frank married (1) Janice Elaine Snoke daughter of Floyd Daniel Snoke and Musa Elnora Wade on 12 Jan 1946. The marriage ended in divorce.Janice was born on 6 Jan 1928 in St. Lukes Hospital, Chicago, Il. She died on 5 Dec 1983 in Park West Hospital, Knoxville, Tn. She was buried in Oak Ridge Memorial Park, Oak Ridge, Tn.
Janice was a nurse.
Frank and Janice had the following children:
+ 111 M i. Robert Joe Walker was born on 25 May 1947.
+ 112 F ii. Candace Sue Walker was born on 27 Aug 1949.
+ 113 M iii. James Patrick Jones was born on 3 Aug 1881. He died on 3 Mar 1935.
114 M iv. Michael Shelby Walker, b. 27 May 1952 in Warsaw, IN; m. on 9 Oct 1982 in Norris, TN, to Serena Star "Star" Lakavage (b. 12 may 1951 in Allentown, PA, d/o Peter Lakavage and Julia Doyle)
Always uses Star as name rather than Serena.
Frank married (2) Pauline on 5 May 1955.
Maiden name unknown.
Frank and Pauline had the following children:
115 F v. Karen Ann Walker was born on 28 Jul 1954 in
Indianapolis,
in.
Karen married Ben Tackitt .
+ 116 F vi. Linda Rae Walker was born on 16 Aug 1956.
+ 117 F vii. Betty Ann Walker was born on 27 May 1960.
+ 118 M viii. Thomas Frank Walker was born on 3 Aug 1964.
+ 119 M ix. William Walker .
120 F x. Karen Walker .
Karen married Ben Tackitt .
+ 121 F xi. Linda Caroll .
+ 122 F xii. Betty Ann Walker .
86. Billy Joe Walker (Shelby Lemon Walker, Thomas Thurston Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born on 3 Apr 1927 in Patton, Il.
Billy married Rita .
They had the following children:
123 M i. Bill Walker .He was related to his parents by adoption.
124 F ii. Rosemary Walker .She was related to her parents by adoption.
125 F iii. Lynn Rita Walker .She was related to her parents by adoption.
87. John Eugene Walker (Shelby Lemon Walker, Thomas Thurston Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born on 23 Apr 1934 in Sidney, Oh.
John married (1) Marlene .
They had the following children:
126 F i. Kathy Walker .She was related to her parents by adoption.
127 M ii. Kenny Walker .He was related to his parents by adoption.
128 M iii. Karla Walker .He was related to his parents by adoption.
129 F iv. Kelly Walker .She was related to her parents by
adoption.
John married (2) Marilyn .
89. Evelyn Louisa Walker (Walter Hunter Walker, Thomas Thurston Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born on 11 Apr 1911.
Evelyn Louise Walker Marriott's last known address:
RR #2
Albion, IL 62806
Evelyn married Marriot .
They had the following children:
130 M i. Dorothy Marriot .
Married name is Westmoreland. Last known address is Keensburg,
IL 62852
102. William Owen Simmons (Ray Franklin Simmons, William
Owen Simmons, Manerva J. Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born on 19 Nov
1923.
He died in Oct 1998.
Ruth was not married (1) to Elbert David McConnell son of Jefferson Heltman McConnell and Edna Darrah. Elbert was born on 4 Sep 1911 in ,Brown Co,in. He died on 17 Oct 1937 in Wash. Twp,Hendricks Co,in. He was buried on 20 Oct 1937 in Farley Cem,Carmel,in. He had other parents.
IntroductionThanks to Joyce (Simmons) Armstrong we have this record of her Father's World WWII and Korean War record.
At the behest of Joyce, William Owen Simmons provided her with the History of his time in the service of Our Country.
8 Years - What Happened?
March 1943 - November 1945 & June 1950 - October 1955
William Owen Simmons
October 1998Page 1
In 1995, seven of the original ten members of our B24 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b24/b24page1. htm> combat crew met in Colorado Springs to recognize the 50th anniversary of our return from England at the end of WWII in Europe. Being together again, especially with all seven wives present, led to many discussions. Most revealing was how little those three or so years of active duty that had such a tremendous impact on our lives and those of others, had been talked about during the past fifty years.
This was compounded for me, since I was the only one that had been called back during the Korean conflict and served during the early years of the Cold War. This fact also led to many questions from others in the original crew about how things had changed with the new Air Force.
After returning to Indianapolis, I decided it might be a good idea to put some events down on paper. I started several times but would end up discarding what I had written. In 1998, Joyce suggested that I again consider writing about the military portion of the eight years. Madeleine and Bill supported the idea. They remarked that this was a part of my life they now realized they had never really known much
about, even though it, notably, had a significant impact on my life, and in turn on their lives. So, I decided to give it a try again.After passing the mental portion, but failing the physical portion (underweight) of tests for the Army Air Corps aviation cadet program, I was wide open for the draft if I could not gain weight quickly. My draft number came up in March 1943 and that was the beginning of the first tour of duty. What turned out to be many long trips to many strange places began with a 110-mile trip to Fort Benjamin Harrison in Indianapolis Indiana. This was the start of turning a 19-year old into an adult in a hurry.
Classification (Best suited assignment)
Fort Ben was, at that time, a classification center where draftees were subjected to a series of tests to determine their best-suited assignment. Ironically, as a draftee, it was now determined that I should be sent to the Army Air Corps for further testing and assignment. Perhaps this was the first instance of how luck, or being in the right place at the right time, would influence my future military service.
Boot Training/Testing
The next move was to Tent City in St. Petersburg, Florida. This was intended to be boot training, testing and further classification. The conditions at Tent City were so bad that the city demanded something be done or have it closed. It was, in fact. closed.
Our next home was in the Jack Tarr Hotel at Clearwater Beach <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/jacktarrhotel.jpg>. Not quite the picture of military service - staying in a resort hotel and training on the beach. However, there was much testing and primary military training to complete, so it wasn't all peaches and cream.
The test results gave me the choice of Cryptography school or Radio Operator/Mechanical (ROM) School. There is that touch of luck again. ROM school would now give me a chance to fly. There was never any doubt about my choice.
Page Two
ROM School
The first ROM school assignment was in Chicago, living in the Stevens Hotel facing Lake Michigan. <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/stevenshotelchicago1927.jpg> Our code classes were in the Blackstone Hotel and technical training was in the Chicago coliseum. Again, this does not say much for TOUGH military training.
Well, the good things can last only so long. The air corps turned the Stevens Hotel back to civilian use and we ended up in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. What a change! Now it meant just settling down to learn Morse <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/htmfiles/moriscode.htm> code and how to operate and troubleshoot aircraft radio equipment.
There was a requirement to keep the headsets on for the full four hours of code classes. To listen to code for four full hours would probably result in making a person "code happy". To prevent this, there were periodic breaks for music and/or news. During some of these breaks, there were requests that anyone interested should try out for aviation cadet training. There is lady luck again. It took me all of two
nanoseconds to jump at the chance. Since there was no assurance of acceptance, it was also wise to keep up with the ROM training. During the last week of ROM school, the acceptance for aviation cadets came through. When we left Florida for ROM school, we had been told that effective (he time the train left the station we were promoted to Private First Class <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/
privatefirstclass.gif> (PFC). Upon arrival at Sioux Falls, five of us learned that we actually had bypassed PFC and were corporals. This may seem to mean little, but it has a later bearing. When we entered the Cadet program, we were given the choice of being classified as a cadet or a student. As a student, we would retain our rating and pay, albeit, no wearing of stripes. The bottom line was financial. The cadet
pay was $75 per month and the corporal pay was $66. The kicker was, as a student, there was a bonus of 1/2 of base pay for flying. So, taking the student classification, but as a corporal, meant $99 per month. The decision was rather easy since the $75 cadet pay had no flight bonus.Now comes the chance to realize a dream that started when I observed a small plane overhead on a small farm in Southern Indiana <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/htmfiles/oldfarm.htm>. The dream was that some day I would be up there. Too bad a world war made it happen. Who knows, it may have happened anyway.
College Training Detachment (CTD)
The next move was to Keesler Field, Mississippi <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/
keeslerairforcebase1945.jpg> to await an assignment to a College Training Detachment (CTD). About
the only memory I have of Keesler Field was sleeping in tents under mosquito netting. The joke of the
day was that two mosquitoes were debating over who got the largest human the previous night.The CTD assignment resulted in a move to West Texas State Teachers College in Canyon, Texas. This
was the real introduction to the square meal, white glove inspection, demerits, penalty laps, upper class/
lower class status, and other items of the cadet world. The stated intended goal was to make sure that, in
the end; we would be considered adequate candidates to be officers and gentlemen (commission
wording).Most of the time in CTD involved classroom work. However, we were to get nine hours of flying
instruction. After hours of good and bad stalls, loops, 360°, dives, spins, takeoffs and landings, the final
flight arrived. We were not permitted to solo, but on my last flight the instructor said to forget he was
present and do the complete routine. The logbook <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/htmfiles/logbook.
htm> for these flying hours meant a lot to me and I still have it. On a personal note, this was the first and
only time I spent Christmas away from home.Page Three
Classification (Pilot/Navigator/Bombardier)
The next assignment was at Santa Ana, California for another series of tests to determine a classification
for the pilot, navigator or bombardier training. Again, the background of the whole time here was to
further prepare for a possible commission. Really, the main goal of most was the silver wings <http://
frankbsimmons.com/owen/htmfiles/wings.htm> - not the gold second lieutenant bars.After many days of testing, marching, physical training (PT), Sunday afternoon full dress parades (white
gloves helmets, etc.), the day arrived for the classification assignments. The graduating class was
gathered for the final results.Obviously, most of us were looking forward to becoming pilots. Imagine the concern that existed when
the first person to address the group stated that there was a critical need for navigators. Therefore, many
that met or exceeded a certain level in the math tests would probably be assigned to navigation school.
Does one now regret all the efforts expended on math? Probably not...but it was at least a passing
thought.For whatever reason, I ended up with a navigator school assignment. There was a short time when there
was a doubt on whether or not navigation was my cup of tea. The other choice was to go back and get a
commission in communications; however, the chance to fly would be gone. Navigation training won out.Navigation School
So off we go to Hondo, Texas to start the real grind of trying to succeed in the new goal of becoming a
navigator. There was the feeling of confidence that you were equal to the tasks ahead but also the
suppressed fear of "washing out".So the only thing to do was settle down and accept the strange world of compasses, drift meters, three
star fixes, wind triangles and many other strange things that must become second nature to understand
and put in use. The need to always be accurate was constantly stressed and later proven to be of the
utmost importance.Going in, it was expected that celestial navigation, with the need to identify about thirty stars by the
pointer system, use of the sextant, air almanac, celestial tables to determine a star, sun or moon altitude
and azimuth, would be the most difficult tasks. In fact, it was probably the least difficult.There was the typical need for some (navigator) humor in the situation. So, when someone came back
with an exceptionally good circular error on a celestial flight, he was accused of using Dubhe, <http://
frankbsimmons.com/owen/htmfiles/stars.htm> Deneb <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/htmfiles/stars.
htm>, and the Flying Red Horse for his final fix. In other words, he peeked out the window and used the
neon sign with flying red horse, shining brightly over Dallas, as the third star.Pages could be written about our experiences during training in Texas. From a personal perspective, two
instances stand out. The first was that the only time I ever got sick in a plane was during a very low level
search and patrol mission over the Gulf. The second was when we had to get the planes out of the
predicted path of a hurricane. (Consider that this was in the middle of August in Southern Texas.) We
went to Oakland, California. Naturally, everyone wanted to go into San Francisco that night. We soon
learned, the hard way, that you don't go into Frisco at night in short-sleeve summer uniforms if you have
been acclimated to a Texas August.Eventually the time arrived to learn if you would make the final "wash out" list, be appointed as a flight
officer, or be commissioned as a second lieutenant <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/
2ndltinsignia.gif>. The odds were that approximately 20 percent would wash out during or at the end of
training. 20 percent would be appointed to flight officer status, and 60 percent would actually receive a
commission. Again, the main personal goal of most was to earn the silver wings <http://frankbsimmons.
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As an aside, everything written so far took place within the 18 months after I was drafted. During that
time I had never been home and had relocated to 9 different cities. The final graduation program was
held in the gym. Anyone that had washed out as a result of his final grade was not asked to show up. So
the question was appointment or commission. Anyway, I ended up with a commission <http://
frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/commissionorder.jpg> which, based on the wording on the certificate,
made me officially an officer and a gentleman. It would be very difficult to really describe the emotion
involved when it was your turn to walk up and get presented with the certificate, gold bars and. most
important, the silver wings <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/htmfiles/wings.htm>.Some graduates had family members and/or friends present, however, the rest knew that for various
reasons, an attendance was not possible, nor was it expected. There was a tradition that the first person
to salute you would be given a dollar. As I exited the gym, an airman started to salute, but realized my
bars were not on. A woman, who I believe was a nurse, stepped up and asked if I would like for her to
pin on my bars and wings. 1 said I would be happy to accept her offer. I later realized I didn't even know,
or ask, her name.Combat Crew
Now the time had arrived to become a member of a combat crew. A delay in route on the way to Lincoln,
Nebraska allowed me to spend a few days at home. (Amazing how much young people had changed
over the previous eighteen months!) Anyway, the only purpose for being in Lincoln was to form a ten-
maB24 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b24/b24page1.htm>n team for training as a bomber crew. As
it turned out, our bomber was the B24 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b24/b24page1.htm>, not the
expected B17 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b17.jpg>. (Hollywood bomber). The B24 <http:/
/frankbsimmons.com/owen/b24/b24page1.htm> was called many things, the crate a B17 <http://
frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b17.jpg>, was shipped in. a flying coffin with a bad record of blowing
up on takeoff, and other degrading titles.As a crew, we moved on to Mountain Home, Idaho for about three months of transition training. It was
good to learn that the takeoff problem had been somewhat solved by cracking the Bombay doors open a
little for the takeoff, to pull out the accumulated fuel fumes. In fact, it was soon realized that the B24
<http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b24/b24page1.htm> was a very good aircraft regardless of its ugly
looks and somewhat, whether true or false, bad history. After all, we were not in the business of fighting
a publicity dual with the B17 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b17.jpg>.The months at Mountain Home were devoted to many hours of intense ground and flight training. At the
risk of appearing rather melodramatic, let it be known that the closeness of ten men, who accept the fact
that the next flight could end it all in flames, cannot adequately be explained. (A historical note: The
meeting in Colorado Springs in 1995 that was mentioned at the beginning of this story, with seven of theten crewman, 50 years after the war ended and the crew was disbanded, confirmed that closeness.)
Thankfully, no crews were lost during the transition training. The only memorable thing that happened
to our crew was making an unwise decision of trying to go over, rather than around, a thunderhead. After
considerable bouncing around, we came out at nearly the same side we entered. Another crew had a
situation where they had a pilot who was noted for tapping the bottle a little too much and they were
considering asking for a new pilot. However, before they formally made the request, an event happened
that changed their minds. On their next flight, an engine cut out on takeoff and there appeared to be a
fire. The pilot made a 180º into the dead engine, landed downwind with a full fuel load and stopped
prior to running out of runway. Needless to say, there was no more talk of a new pilot.Pacific or Europe
The next move was to Topeka, Kansas, where it would be determined if we would go to the Pacific or
Europe. We were issued equipment for both areas and then told we could go home provided we were
back two days after Christmas. Upon return, we learned that our next destination would be in England as
a member of the 8th Air Force <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/eighthairforcepatch.gif>. As
will be seen later, this would again be a somewhat lucky break.
On the East Coast, we were loaded on the El de France, a former French luxury liner, for our trip across
the Atlantic. Partly because of the good ship speed, and a very indirect route, we needed no escort. This
was not considered a big risk, since the submarine threat was rather minor and evasive action could be
pretty effective with the ship speed. The ship was loaded with replacement ground troops provided to
replace the battle of the bulge losses. However, that is another story.We were assigned as a replacement crew to the 704th Bomb Squadron of the 446th Bomb Group in
Bungay, England, Flixton airbase <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/flixton.jpg> This is where
the rubber meets the road (i.e.. the purpose for all the previous training). We only hoped the training had
been adequate.Preparation for the upcoming combat tour included meetings where it was not specifically stated, but
was surely implied, that you should not dwell on what your bombs would do when they reached their
ultimate target. The explosions would not just damage mortar and steel. If a great concern did develop,
you must ask yourself one basic question. If we do not do this, could the leveling of a good portion of
London be a preview of what could happen to New York. Chicago, or Indianapolis? One trip into
London, where you see what happened and what the people had endured for years, provided the answer.Missions
After the initial indoctrinations were completed, it came time for the first mission. Our pilot and I flew our first mission basically as passengers with a veteran crew. Our co-pilot was to do the same with
another crew but, after two failed attempts for mechanical and weather problems, his first mission was with us as a complete crew.The pilot and I completed twelve missions during our tour. We were scheduled to fly number thirteen on
Friday the 13th of April 1945, but the flight was stood down. It might be noted that this was the day afterPresident Roosevelt died and the war in Germany was, in fact, nearing an end. We flew no more combat missions. Most missions were pretty non-eventful. Just go, hope flak and fighters are scarce, drop your bombs, and return to the base. Sure sounds simple. Unfortunately, the broken and burnt trees just past the end of the runway were a constant reminder that some did not even make the takeoff.
Much could be written about the six months under combat conditions, but I will limit it to a few events.
One was when the clouds went above our altitude limits at our formation area over England. Because of these conditions, we were ordered to go to France and give a try there. After the firing of many flares, four crews found each other. Somehow, we formed with other planes, not our wing, and eventually bombed a target. I was never really clear on what all happened except that we did, in fact, end up back in England. So much for blind luck. Needless to say, all four crews had missed the recall message while on our way to France. Another involved our Wing Commander (Col. Troy Crawford <http://frankbsimmons. com/owen/crawford/crawford.htm>). Our wing was leading the 8th Air Force, so our commander was the formation monitor.
Another pilot would fly him in a Red Tailed Mosquito <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/ redtailedmosquito.jpg> (British twin-engine aircraft). They would fly back and forth along the formation to make sure it stayed tight. The mission involved hundreds of planes. This was also early in the use of the ME262 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/me262.jpg> (twin jet engine aircraft) by the German Air Force. Bandits were reported in the area, so the Mosquito pilot started to move into the bomber formation for protection. Now the bandits were expected to be the ME262's. Head on, the profile of the Mosquito and the ME262 looked a lot alike. As a result, some gunners in the low left formation opened fire and shot the Mosquito (our commanders aircraft) down. The plane was in a spiral dive when it entered the undercast and there were no reports of parachutes.
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It was assumed that the Mosquito pilot and Col. Crawford bought the farm. Several days later, it was learned that both bailed out after they entered the undercast. They were captured and sent to a POW camp. By pure luck, they had come down near a German air base and were captured by airmen. As a result of that, and the fact the war was nearing the end they were treated good. After the war in Europe ended, they were released and Col. Crawford <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/crawford/crawford.htm> came back to the base and gave us a talk about his adventures. In the usual American tradition, everything had to have a comical slant. Writings appeared on the latrine walls stating, "he was just a kid from Toledo, but he shot down the Red Tailed Mosquito <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/ redtailedmosquito.jpg>". Incidentally, our crew was not on that mission.
Additionally, an event came about on what was meant to be our third mission to the Berlin (flak city) area. Just after passing northwest of Hanover, we started losing oil pressure on one engine. Very quickly his turned into a long trail of black smoke. There were two reasons to leave the formation. First, the smoke trail was a dead giveaway of the formation position. The second, if we cut the engine, we would be unable to maintain formation speed.
The only thing left to do was leave the formation and head back as a lone wolf. Two P51 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/p51/p51.jpg> fighter planes stayed with us for a short time but they soon dipped their wings to say so long and good luck as they left to rejoin the formation escort group. The engine oil pressure soon went to zero, so the prop was feathered and the engine shut down. Now we had to get rid of the bomb load in a hurry.
Keep in mind that, even though we were now over Holland, as a result of German takeover it was enemy territory. There was no desire to salvo the bombs since that meant they would be duds. You also didn't want to cause unwarranted damage to the Dutch people. Bear in mind that all these options are considered in a proverbial split second. Anyway, someone sighted a bridge through a hole in the clouds ahead and saw no traffic near it. So that is where we left our bombs. Before the bombs landed, the clouds put the bridge out of sight, which meant we would never know if the bridge was hit. Since things happened so fast, the chances were very slim.
So now the plan was to get to the North Sea cross, it and at least get back to England (hopefully our base). Everyone realized that if we were to lose anymore power it would probably mean ditching in the North Sea.
After getting rid of the bombs, I soon determined weowen/ziderzee/ziderzee.htm>. I called for an immediate 45-degree right turn. They started to ask why, and I said don't ask, just do it. After the turn, I explained that if we hadn't turned we would probably have passed over some of the very accurate antiaircraft guns on barges in the Zider Zee. Needless to say, once a final heading was given to head home, it was then just a matter of trusting the three engines, and the navigator.
How Things Really Were
I'm going to take some space just to put in words how other things really were. For instance, our base was in a direct line between the German missile launching sites and London http://frankbsimmons.com/ owen/htmfiles/london.htm>. The V-I missile <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/v1buzzbomb.jpg> was actually more of a bomb with a motor attached. It flew at a very low altitude and could be seen and heard. If the sound stopped, you headed very quickly for an air raid shelter because the missile was coming down. Since the programmed destination was London <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/ htmfiles/london.htm>, only a power failure would bring one down near us.
The V-II, which came next, was indeed a real missile and flew at extremely high altitude. We could sometimes see the launch smoke trail across the North Sea. These missiles were no direct concern to us, but they sure did much damage to London <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/htmfiles/london.htm>. Because these missiles were never seen or heard, except for the final huge explosion, the affect on the civilian population morale was extremely bad.
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A couple overnight trips to London provided an opportunity to see several historical places that had survived the bombings. The sad thing was to see some people basically living in the tube (subway) and sleeping on cots along the walls. A good memory, was going to the Palladium Theater to see the stage play Panama Hattie featuring Bea Lilly. (Another historical note: During an eight day tour of England that Madeleine and I took in 1984, thirty-nine years later, we went back to the Palladium and saw the British version of Singing in the Rain.)
Cook's Tours
Now back closer to the story theme. After the war in Germany ended, it was decided to show some of the ground support personnel what their support was all about. We flew several at a time on low level trips over France and Germany. Everyone wanted to see the "undamaged" Cathedral in Cologne <http:// frankbsimmons.com/owen/cathedral/cathedral.jpg>, Germany. It was true that, when viewed from ground level, it appeared that it was about the only building standing and was undamaged. Still standing, yes, but when viewed from the top, the internal damage was apparent. Total restoration was later completed.There were also some humorous incidents during these flights. One of my preflight functions for these so called "cook's tours" was to brief the passengers on emergency procedures. For takeoff and landing, they were limited to the waist area. A while after takeoff, a major from the photo lab called to see if he could come up to the nose (where I was)? After looking around awhile he was trying to ask me a question, but since he did not have a headset and mike, I could only guess at what he was saying because of the noise. I thought he was asking how we would get out, so I pointed to the nose wheel doors. He very quickly left. After we landed, he came up to me and said he didn't see how we could get out that way if we ditched in the channel. Ditching hadn't even crossed my mind. At least they saw a lot, especially how welcome the White Cliffs of Dover <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/dover/dover.jpg> looked to us as we were returning from some of our missions.
Typical Mission Day
A typical mission day starts with a wake up call, usually between one and two a.m., followed by fried eggs for breakfast, limited to personnel flying that day, instead of the usual powdered eggs and powdered milk.
All members of the affected crews gather in the briefing room. There was always some apprehension prior to the time the wall curtains are pulled to reveal the mission route and objective. Sometimes the apprehension goes down, other times it goes up very much. Depends on an obvious "milk run" or a trip to Berlin. The location of antiaircraft (AA) sites is a concern, but, believe it or not, the dew point spread noted in the weather briefing is also a big concern. The nearer the spread gets to zero, the more probability for heavy vapor trails. These give the AA crews and fighter pilots a huge advantage in locating the formations.
Next comes the task of plotting the complete route on your maps, and using metro winds and planned true airspeeds, computing the estimated time for each leg. Adjustments are made throughout the mission, based on determined winds and airspeeds. Things are not as simple as that sounds, however explanations would be too long.
Now it is time to get dressed for the flight. The flight suit comes off and an electrically heated suit goes on. Heated gloves are plugged in later. Next the regular flight suit goes back on, followed by fleece- lined leather boots, pants (with suspenders), and jacket. The soft helmet and oxygen mask are usually kept in the flight bag until you reach the plane. The parachutes are picked up and you go to the waitingtrucks for a short trip to the plane.
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Each crewmember has specific preflight tasks to perform before boarding the plane. Now it is time to put on the helmet, with mask attached to one side, the Mae West (life vest), and parachute. For me, it was a parachute harness, since I used a chest pack. The chest pack was carried on and placed under the navigation table. At each crew station was a steel helmet and flak suit. Rules said to put these on before reaching the enemy lines. Actually, you left them off unless bandits (fighters) were reported in the area or flak bursts were observed.
Although each mission is different, generally, you get to the target, drop the bombs, and return to home base. During the debriefing there was a shot of the strong stuff on the table in front of each crewmember. The bombardier always took care of mine.
Before I leave this topic, I should note that the B24 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b24/b24page1.htm> was nothing like today's pressurized and heated airliners with all the fancy equipment and safety features. This was a plane pushing the envelope on every takeoff, with full bomb and fuel loads. At altitude, you were putting up with inside air temperatures of minus 40 to 50 degrees. Just make sure your skin never makes contact with metal.
R&R
With the end of the war in Germany, it was time to get back to the States, transition to B29 <http:// frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg> 's, and head to the Pacific. This tour of duty had resulted in a promotion to First Lieutenant <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/1stltinsignia.jpg>, an air medal with one oak leaf cluster, and three battle stars to the ETO campaign ribbon. Sad to say, but these would probably bring twenty-five cents in a flea market today.
Since we had done no celestial navigation for over six months, it was determined that we should practice before bringing the planes back across the Atlantic. We flew two night celestials up to the northern tip of Scotland and back. So what happens, we fly back in the daytime!
Bringing back the planes turned out to be a longer journey than planned. The next task, aftethe size, Terceira has a complete area of 153 square miles, while Indiana has over 36,000 square miles.
Leaving Valley. Wales mid-morning means flying southwest will give course lines from sun shots which duplicate those obtained by drift readings. That leaves speed to an educated guess. At least we should find the island, even if it is difficult to determine when.
We were to spend the night in the Azores and go to Gander, Newfoundland the next day. During preflight, our flight engineer noted foreign material in the glass fuel sight gauge. It was determined that a fuel cell had collapsed and what showed up was some of the self-sealing material. We waited 11 days for a replacement cell to be flown in and installed. Not a happy event for a crew that was looking forward to getting home.
We finally took off and headed to Newfoundland. Things seemed to be going well until the pilot asked if we had passed the point of no return. I said no and inquired why he asked. We were losing oil pressure on one engine and would probably have to shut it down. So, it was back to the Azores with the fun of finding that small speck of land again. We spent 2 more days there while they fixed the engine.
After one night in Newfoundland, we took off for Bradley Field, Connecticut. We left the B24 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b24/b24page1.htm> there and the crew left to spend a month of rest and recuperation (R & R) at home. The crew had increased to twelve members when we advanced to lead crew status in mid March. A radar operator and number two navigator had been added Anyway, the twelve took off to ten different states for R&R.
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The month turned into six weeks when I asked for and got an extension. These were good times and it was good to be part of a family again. Although there seemed to be an attempt to put thirty hours into twenty-four hour day, there always came a time when it was necessary to get some sleep. Regardless of how hard you tried to ignore it, there was, prior to going to sleep, the growing apprehension of what it was going to be like flying combat in the Pacific.
New Assignment
At the end of R&R, it was time to go to our new assignment. Ironically, this turned out to be Sioux Falls, South Dakota, where I had gone to radio school and transferred to Cadets a little over two years before. As I entered the train station in Indianapolis to catch a train to Sioux Falls, the news came out that the bomb had been dropped on Hiroshima. Maybe we wouldn't go to the Pacific after all. A few days after arriving in Sioux Falls the second bomb was dropped on Nagasaki. It now became apparent that the war with Japan was nearing an end, so...no B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg> training for Pacific duty. (A historical note: Over the years, the revisionists have said how inhuman the Air Corps was to drop those bombs.) I doubt very much if you could find one flyer, who would otherwise have flown over Japan, or one member of the ground forces that were planning to invade Japan, that would agree with the revisionists and their second guessing.
Post-War
Now that the war was really over it meant moving around until your number came up for release. The number was computed from time in the service, overseas time, and any medals awarded. Time was spent in Fairfield, Nebraska and Pyote, Texas prior to finally going to St. Louis, Missouri for separation. To collect flight pay, you had to fly a minimum of four hours per month, and were given three months to make up for any month missed. In September, a group of us boarded a B17 <http://frankbsimmons.com/ owen/photos/b17.jpg> and flew from Pyote to Great Falls, Montana and back, to get the necessary flying time. This is the only time I spent in the "Hollywood Bomber".
Airplanes we flew in WWII are as follows: Sugar Baby <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/sugarbaby.jpg>, Queenie <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/queenie.jpg>, Lady Luck, Classey Chassy <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/htmfiles/classychassy.htm>, Shoo Shoo Baby <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/shooshoobaby.jpg>, Dragon Lady. Combat Missions Germany.1945, click on this line. <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/htmfiles/missionsgermany.htm>
So ends what turned out to be only the first tour of duty. It was now time to settle down and recapture something from civilian life...until 1950.
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In June 1950, the Korean War brought an end to my civilian status. Having agreed to stay in the Reserves, I ended up as a member of a Volunteer Air Reserve Training Unit (VARTU) at O'Hare Field in Chicago. Two weeks after the Korean War started nearly all navigators from the O'Hare VARTU were called back to active duty. Needless to say, we were no longer the free-spirited, somewhat arrogant, flyboys of WWII. Now we were mostly husbands and fathers, and had a different outlook on life. Something else had changed; the Army Air Corps had become the U.S. Air Force. Out with pink and green uniforms and brown shoes, in with the blue uniforms and black shoes.
First Assignment
Our first assignment was to Ellington Field in Houston, Texas <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/htmfiles/ellingtonfield.htm>. A crash course of seventeen training days seemed rather short considering the fact we had not picked up an E6B computer, or been in a military aircraft, in over four and one half years. It all came back pretty quickly with ground classes and flight training in T19 and B25 aircraft.
Let me stray from the story theme here to say something about Madeleine <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/madeleine.htm>. Joyce and Bill <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/billjoyce.htm>. We had now come to be a military family, albeit Joyce and Bill were at first too young to understand. Five years of actual military time. Which I will continue to write about, and five years as a civilian field engineer attached to the Air Force, resulted in many moves. Three months of the civilian time put me in North Africa while they stayed in Orlando. Florida, Many miles on the road, with no air conditioning, no cruise control, and no freeways, brought up the question many times "are we about there?" Madeleine did an excellent job with Joyce and Bill during their formative years, and they coped very well.
Next Assignment
The next assignment was to the Fairfield Suisun AFB in California. The first item on the agenda was to pick up Madeleine <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/madeleine.htm>. Joyce and Bill <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/billjoyce.htm> in Chicago and fly to California.
We learned very quickly that there was very little housing available. We spent the first thirty days in a Quonset hut on the Mare Island Naval Base in Vallejo. A former WWII housing development was made somewhat livable, so we moved there. The developments official name was Chabot Terrace, but was better known as Shabby Terrace. Not a good way to start out as a military family.
The plane assigned to the Fairfield Suisun AFB was the ten-engine (6 conventional & 4 jets) B36. One later crashed on takeoff, killing the complete crew, plus Colonel Travis, the wing commander. The base was renamed Travis AFB.
It was assumed that we would be assigned to a B36 crew. However, it was soon apparent that we, as reservists, were considered expendable. We would form B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg> crews in preparation for combat over Korea. We were sent to the McDill AFB in Tampa, Florida for about a month of B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg> crew training. (During WWII, McDill was a training base for the twin-engine B26 crews who said the plane had the glide angle of a rock. Thus, the term "One a day in Tampa Bay".)
The tour at McDill was pretty routine, mainly involved in learning the plane and jelling as a crew. There was one incident that indicates how difficult it is to get an order changed in the military once it is given.
A hurricane watch was issued and orders were given to get all B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg> 's out of McDill. We were scheduled to take off about 8 p.m. but engine problems held us back. About 4 a.m., even though the weather conditions had changed, we took off into a clear sky and landed in a raging storm about three hours later at the Barksdale AFB in Louisiana. The hurricane never came close to McDill.
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On arrival back in California, it was determined that the crews would be split between the Kadena AFB in Okinawa and the Yakota AFB in Japan. We were assigned to Yakota.
The Air Force arranged for our car and furniture to be put in storage. Madeleine <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/madeleine.htm>, Joyce and Bill <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/billjoyce.htm> took a train back to Chicago, where they stayed during the seven months I was in Japan.
Our assigned flight engineer was recalled to duty as a glider pilot while in Florida, so we got a replacement. Also, prior to leaving for Japan, two of our gunners left the crew because of illness in their families. So much for a trained crew! The first flight in a B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg>, for the two gunners, was our first combat mission.
While much could be written about the 47 missions over Korea, I will highlight just a few examples. Most missions were fairly routine, and there was no reason to remember the details.
One of our early missions was quite eventful for most of the crew when we were hit by light flak. Only the co-pilot, the bombardier, and I had experienced being shot at before. The crewmembers could see only four holes in a portion of the left wing; however, we knew there was at least one in the fuselage since we were losing pressure. This was no big concern since we were going down to 8000 feet soon after bombs away. While preparing for landing, as I took my briefcase from the floor behind my seat, it became apparent where the pressure leak was located. A piece of flak had come up under my table and seat, gone through my briefcase, and lodged in the inverter mount. I still have a picture of the briefcase and insert. I also have a damaged map from the briefcase.
Another mission. As a result of North Korean MIG (fighter aircraft) activity, a triangular area called the ABC area was designated on the south side of the bridge crossing the Yalu River between Antung (Manchuria) and Sinuiju (North Korea). No B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg> was to enter the ABC area without fighter escort. The area was also known as MIG alley. Our first trip to MIG Alley wasn't too bad, even though the 307th from Okinawa lost one plane. Note how much better it sounds to say lost one plane instead of ten men.
Five days later, on April 12th, we again made the trip. Since Manchuria was off limits to us, we used a water initial point (IP) in the yellow sea and made our bomb run in a northeast direction up the Yalu, making sure we stayed over the Korean half. Our fighter escort, F84's out of Suwan, could stay with us for about eight minutes, if things worked right, with five minutes before and three minutes after bombs away. I still have my navigation log for this mission (12 April 1951).
The following is an excerpt from the book, The Korean Air War:
“On 7 April 1951, forty -eight F84 E Thunderjets escorted B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg> Superfortresses to the railway bridge at Sinuiju. Thirty MIGs attacked the American warplanes. Though only one MIG got through, it downed a B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg> belonging to the 307th. As for the target, the bridge was battered but still standing. On 12 April, three Superfortress groups hit the bridge again, MIGs swarmed down through the Sabre screens and escorting Thunderjets. At least two B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg>s were shot
down, and five were damaged. B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg> crews claimed ten MIGS shot down and the Thunderjets claimed three probables! "I know our group again lost no planes, but some were damaged (we were not). If my memory serves me right, the mission on 12 April was the one that resulted in Washington directing that no B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg> was to go within 12 miles of the Yalu River, with or without fighter escort. I know we never went back.
Another mission that was a close call, and ended tragically for some, was with the target being the downtown airstrip (military) in Pyongyang. I also still have my navigation log from this mission. We were to fly deputy lead (#2), but another crew that was in lead crew training, asked to switch positions. We moved over to the #3 position (leader’s right wing).
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At bombs away, the formation was hit by flak. It was thought, at first, that the bombs had exploded under the #2 plane. However, they had apparently taken a direct hit and immediately lost the right wing. We were also hit and lost all power on the #1 engine and fire was noted. I immediately gave a heading of 180° to get us headed towards our emergency airstrip at Suwan, south of Sueol, It was later learned that five of the ten crewmen bailed out of the #2 plane and were captured. Three survived over three years as POW's. In 1995,1 was in contact (by mail and phone), with the tail gunner...one of the survivors.
As we approached Suwan, things looked better so we decided to go on to Taegu, which had a longer runway, albeit still steel matting. When we got near the airstrip the weather was such that we decided to let down over the Sea of Japan and come back in under the clouds.
We had created considerable excitement when it was learned that a B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/ owen/b29/b29s.jpg> , with one engine out, was landing on their fighter strip, Meat wagons (ambulances) and fire engines were positioned for action. When the gear was lowered, it was noted that a chunk of rubber had been shot from one tire. Since it was likely the tire would blow on landing, everyone prepared for a crash landing. Fortunately, the tire did not blow and we managed to stop before we ran out of steel matting. This was the only time we did not fly our assigned plane (Tail #2253).
A visual inspection of the plane over the next two days disclosed more than 80 holes. The #1 engine had the most damage. After 4 days, it was determined it would take a long time to get the plane back in the air. They sent a C47 to Korea to take us back to Japan.
SHORAN EXPERIMENT
About this time, it had been decided bad weather bombing caused many problems, since the radar available at the time was not very accurate. SHORAN was being used with good results by B26 (twin engine) aircraft. Headquarters decided it should be tried on B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg> 's. SHORAN (short range navigation) was a radar system using a set of two ground stations as transponders. One set was used to determine a course line and one as a "bombs away" signal.
Since the signals were concentric circles, it was not an easy task to maintain the course line (a continual curve) with the large 4-engine B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg> . Since we were already a lead crew, and I was the Squadron Navigator, it was directed that we would be the initial test crew. Our Radar Operator was sent for the special training and our plane was equipped with the SHORAN <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/images/shoran.doc> system.
Computations were very complicated and took much time (today's computers did not exist of course). They were made for a specific target, and for possible weather problems, for 17,000 and 25. 000 feet. We spent most of the next month taking four 500-pound bombs over Korea and dropping them, one at a time, on a bridge or some other predetermined target.
We made few direct hits, but it was decided it would suffice for formation pattern bombing through an undercast. We were the only B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg> crew trained for SHORAN, with the only plane so modified, for some time. While this existed, if the target broke visual, we would turn the formation over to the deputy lead and go bomb a target of opportunity. The official reason was; they did not want to lose the only SHORAN trained crew. Of course, we suspected the modified plane was the thing they didn't want to lose.
To further illustrate the reason for caution, consider the following: Our crew was on rest leave, officers at the Gora Hotel in the Fujiyama foothills, and airmen at another location. On the third day, we were contacted on the golf course and told that a staff car was on the way to return us to the base. The rest of the crew was also being returned.
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We learned, when we got back to operations, that we were to lead a maximum effort mission, including the two groups out of Okinawa, the next day. We would find out about the target at the mission briefing. Later that day, it was apparent that predicted severe weather would make the mission unwise. We never found out for sure what the planned target was.
It was decided, since we were back on the base, we would fly a paper mission that night. A paper mission consisted of dropping canisters loaded with propaganda leaflets at various spots over Korea. The canisters would open after release and the leaflets went far and wide. This was the only time we flew such a mission.
Our 45th mission was supposed to complete our tour of duty. When we got back to the base we made the ceremonial "last flight" low pass over the field before coming in for a full stop landing. When we got to debriefing we learned that our replacement crew had crashed on takeoff in Okinawa with no survivors. We ended up flying two more missions. When we completed the last one our low pass over the field was really low. Some said if we had the gear down the tires would probably have made contact with the runway. At last we were done and would soon be heading back to the States.
Korean War (Stateside)
Before leaving Japan, our orders came through assigning us to the 22nd Bomb Wing at March Field in Riverside, California.
Madeleine came out from Chicago and was at the Travis AFB in California when we landed. We got our car out of storage, left instructions for sending our furniture to Riverside, and headed back to Chicago. We picked up Joyce and Bill, spent a few days in Indiana, and started the long drive back to California. Upon reaching Riverside, we rented part of a triplex and had the furniture delivered.
At the Air Base, the crew was informed that we would be an Instructor Crew, training new B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg> crews. A couple months later we were also assigned as the Wing Standardization crew. In this capacity, we gave periodical check flights to other crews.
There was one puzzling incident that took place in a training flight, where I was to fly as an instructor for a new-navigator. As we were checking engines at the end of the runway, a call from the tower informed the pilot that a jeep was bringing out another instructor and should return me to Operations. No reason was given; so many thoughts went through my mind on the way back.
At Operations, I was informed that I was going, as first navigator, on a special flight with another crew. We were told to go home, get enough items for two weeks, and report back to Operations. Madeleine asked where I was going, but I couldn't tell her since I had no idea myself.
It turned out that, two crews, both with two navigators, would each be taking three high-ranking Air Force officers (VIPs) to Hawaii and Kwajalein. Our crew, and our VIPs, would stay in Hawaii. The other crew would leave the next day for Kwajalein. We were on standby to take the other VIPs if the crew had plane problems. Naturally, we mentally helped them off the runway, since we had no desire to go to Kwajalein.
Anyway, we spent eight days in Hawaii. For whatever reason, the Air Force did not want us to have much contact with base personnel, so we were put up at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel. This only added to the question of why two B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg> 's were used instead of the VIPs taking a commercial flight.
Much later (early 90's) information indicated that in the early 50's the CIA suspected China might join Russia in the cold war. Were these flights part of a planning mission for the Pacific area? We will never know.
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The next part of this article, that is rather emotional, prompts setting the stage. 1. Our co-pilot had left for B47 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b47.jpg> School and was replaced by a pilot who was also a rated navigator. 2. The crew that I flew to Hawaii with, and got to know pretty well, had a navigator who was also the "Class A" pay agent for the Wing.
One payday this crew was scheduled to fly a local (over the water) camera gunnery training flight. I agreed to take their navigator’s (also pay agent) place. After we had loaded up, but had not started engines, our new co-pilot, who had been on leave, came out and asked to take my place. This would get his flight time in for the month. I gave him my oxygen mask and helmet and he took over as navigator.
The gunnery-training mission involved F4U fighter planes from the Marine base making passes at the B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg> , while the B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg> gunners fired camera guns for scoring. One of the F4U pilots misjudged and collided with the B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg> and both went down. Only the engineer bailed from the front, the pilot, co-pilot and navigator did not, while the radar operator and three gunners made it out the back. The five were picked up from the water by Air-Sea rescue. The fighter pilot did not survive.
When we got word of the accident, my initial thought was that, except for pure luck, I could have been involved. However, the reality was that maybe if I had stayed on board, some small event could have been different and the accident would never have happened. This rationale did not prevent the thoughts from going back and forth in my mind as Madeleine and I attended the Memorial Services in the Base Chapel.
We spent a few more months at March AFB in Riverside, California. There were other incidents while flying there that I could go into, but suffice it to say, that some flights made the previous combat missions seem rather calm in retrospect.
Early Days of Cold War
Many of us were anxious to get out of the B29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/b29/b29s.jpg> ’s and into the new six-jet engine B47 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b47.jpg> aircraft. This was the first USAF all jet heavy bomber to become operational. It was a big move forward. Since there were only three crewmembers, it required multiple ratings. The two pilots had to have at least two ratings and the navigators had to be triple-rated (navigator, bombardier, radar operator), which resulted in the nickname of "triple-headed monster".
My acceptance for the new assignment came through and we (family included) took off for Houston, Texas, where the bombardier training would take place at the Ellington AFB. This was the same place I took a refresher course when first recalled at the beginning of the Korean War.
The main objective here was to go through the training required to get the bombardier rating. This involved ground school and flight time. We did our bomb practice in twin-engine B25 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b25.jpg> aircraft, dropping many "blue boy"-spotting bombs. Incidentally, the B25 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b25.jpg> was the plane used in the first bombing of Tokyo, by Doolittle’s outfit, from an aircraft carrier. It in no way compared to the B47 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b47.jpg>, but it served for training purposes.
Upon completion of training at Ellington, our next move was to Mather AFB in Sacramento, California. Here, we would get the third rating as a radar operator. The radar equipment closely resembled what we would eventually use in the B47 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b47.jpg> aircraft, but the actual flying was done in the very slow (in relation to the B47 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b47.jpg>) T-29 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/t29.jpg> aircraft.
Prior to completion of training at Mather, we were notified that our next assignment would be to the Lake Charles AFB in Louisiana. The move was delayed because of floods in Louisiana. Also during this time, another item came up. The Readers Digest published an article very critical of the B47 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b47.jpg> aircraft for which we had been doing all this training. In short, this caused some concern since it was to be THE bomber for the Air Force in the early 50’s. Of course, the much larger eight-jet engine B52 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b52.jpg> later replaced it with a crew of five.
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Some things the article talked about: 1. It could not land in a cross wind because of the tandem landing
gear configuration. Landing was, in fact, limited to a maximum 15-knot cross wind component. 2. In the
"coffin corner" (maximum altitude, maximum load), they stated there was only a 6-knot spread between
a high-speed buffet and a low speed stall. This was somewhat an exaggeration. It was necessary to stay
alert under those conditions, but it could be handled. The complete article did cause some apprehension,
but no one asked out.I had been promoted to Captain while at Mather. At Lake Charles, we formed a crew of three Captains,
since the pilot and co-pilot held the same rank. The official makeup of the crew was Aircraft
Commander, Pilot, and Aircraft Observer, but was normally referred to as pilot, co-pilot and navigator.We spent most of our time, in the beginning at Lake Charles, spinning our wheels, since few B47's were
available for flights. After we were settled, and Joyce and Bill started school, we were notified that we
would go to Wichita, Kansas for ground and flight training for three to four months.We sub-leased our house, took Joyce and Bill out of school, and drove to Wichita. We rented a
furnished house and got school squared away. When we went to the base, we were told that the flight
training had been canceled and we would get only 30 days of ground training. So, after a month, it was
back to Lake Charles to get back into the house and back in school. We made a couple flights with an
instructor pilot at Lake Charles and were basically told we were on our own from then on.I will detail some of what we did as a B47 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b47.jpg> crew over
the next three years:Except for practice bombing, this plane was designed to carry one bomb (atomic) Each crew was
assigned a specific target and a miniature target was made up from all available information, for use in
an ultrasonic trainer. When this miniature target was under two feet of water in the trainer, it showed up
on the radarscope in what was, hopefully - the same, as the real target would look. Most target
information was classified and was kept in the vault when not in use.The plane was often referred to as a "one way" plane. This was because of the fact that the distance to
most assigned targets was such that there was little chance of getting back to the tankers before running
out of fuel. An in-flight refueling would be made on the way over, but the tankers could not go beyond a
predetermined point. (Our first assigned target was close enough, but our later one was questionable.)
This meant going through two survival courses, one summer and one winter, to practice escape and
evasion methods and living off the land.The first of these courses (summer) was near Shreveport, Louisiana. We were given a little dried meat.
Potatoes and onions, and were expected to catch some small animals and fish during the five days.
However...we could hear truck traffic on the other side of the trees and some of them appeared to stop.
We figured there must be a station near. On the fourth day, three of us decided to check it out. Our
reasoning was that we were expected to do anything to survive and escape. Anyway, we took off and
found that there was indeed a station and by chance they had barbecue sandwiches. We ate one of these
and took one with us to eat prior to reaching the camp area. To top it off, the next day (the last day of thecourse), the instructor said everyone deserved some extra rations. The three of us, of course, said "no
thanks", we would stick it out.The winter survival course was in the mountains near Reno, Nevada. We were provided with complete
winter gear, including snow shoes, and taken by truck to an area that served as base camp. We spent five
days there picking up points on how to find food and points on how to avoid capture. We made short
excursions out of the base camp with the "enemy" (instructors) trying to capture us. If you were caught
you had to spend time in the "phone booth". It was actually a vertical box much like a phone booth.
However, it was too short to stand up in and too narrow to sit down. I never got caught.Page Sixteen
When we left base camp, we were given three days and two nights to travel, on snowshoes most of the
time, about thirteen miles to reach freedom road. We would set up parachutes as tents at night. The "
enemy" was on skis and halftrack vehicles (skis on the front and tank tracks on the rear) and their job
was to catch us. If caught, the penalty was to stay in the same area for eight hours. This meant getting to
the next stopping point at 2 a.m. instead of 6 p.m., our group of 4 avoided captures, but there were some
close calls. I won't go into any more details except to say that porcupine does taste like pork.Back in Lake Charles, we would complete several types of training flights. The most important one was
the radar bomb scoring (RBS) flight. A radar station on the ground would track us and, from a tone
interruption at simulated bombs away, score where the bomb would have hit if there had been one. We
mostly used Tampa. Atlanta, and Oklahoma City. Tampa was easy because of the land/water contrast.
The layout around Atlanta made the target identification above average. Oklahoma City was very
difficult and was rough when trying to maintain a good scoring average.Two experimental type flights, which we luckily never got involved in, turned out to be disastrous. The
first was to come in at treetop level, under radar, and at a point prior to the target, make a steep climb.
At a predetermined '"G" point, the bomb would be released and head for the target. The plane would
continue up and make an inverted 180° (immelmann i.e. a turn in which an airplane in flight is first made
to complete half of a loop and is then rolled half of a complete turn) heading away from the upcoming
explosion. This type maneuver caused damage to the wing roots and was stopped. This resulted in all
B47 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b47.jpg>'s being grounded, pending modification.The second experiment was to try a night mass refueling over the Gulf. I won't go into detail about this
except that 4 KC97 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/kc97.jpg>'s and 4 B47 <http://
frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b47.jpg>'s were involved. Two of the B47 <http://frankbsimmons.
com/owen/photos/b47.jpg>'s collided, both going into the Gulf, with 4 of the 6-crew members lost. As
far as I know, this was never tried again.Before I go any further, let me explain one thing that might be confusing. Most people have probably
seen TV scenes of B47 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b47.jpg> and/or B52 crews at alert
stations, ready for immediate takeoff, with planes loaded, if the whistle blew. These alert areas did not
exist before I got out and our assigned bomb was at a remote location. This meant we would leave from
our base, land, pick up the bomb, takeoff and head for the target. Or, more exact, head for our refueling
tanker.
I am going to wrap this up by talking about three events that illustrate how things seldom go as planned.
The first is about a special mission "planned" to be flown out of Goose Bay, Labrador. Next is
concerning a forty-five day temporary duty tour in England. Last, is a running account of my last flight
with the Air Force, including some events leading up to it.Goose Bay Mission
The Goose Bay mission was planned for our B47 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b47.jpg>'s
from Lake Charles, and KC-97 tankers from their base, to gather in Goose Bay. From there, the tankers
would proceed to a refueling area and orbit. The B47 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b47.jpg>
's would follow later, refuel, and continue to a predetermined point prior to returning to Goose Bay.Things started going bad for us while I was taking a radar fix on the bridge between New Albany and
Louisville. The radar image started to fade and continued to do so. It stayed good enough to get a land/
water contrast fix when we reached the St. Lawrence. This sufficed to provide a final heading to Goose
Bay. However, this was just the beginning of the incidents.As we contacted the tower, we were informed that a KC-97 had skidded off the side of the runway and
was in a snow bank. We were given the option of going back to Limestone, Maine or landing under the
existing conditions. With our radar problems, I had no desire to backtrack to Limestone, so we landed
with no further problems.Page Seventeen
The radar personnel at Goose Bay had no success in repairing our radar. This was not of great concern
since we would be part of the formation, but not leading it, or so we thought.After the normal briefing, my pilot and the Wing Commander came into the Navigators planning room
to inform me that we would be flying lead. It seems the lead plane's fuel leaks had not been fixed. When
I reminded them we had no radar, things started to change in a hurry. A command decision was made
that we would not continue on the mission but would return directly back to Lake Charles. Sounds
simple, doesn't it? Not so.Since we were no longer a component of the mission, we were scheduled to leave early for our flight
back to Lake Charles. While we were on our takeoff roll, the tower operator told us to abort. It was too
late to stop, so after takeoff we orbited the field while trying to determine what was going on. By the
time it was determined that the abort direction was a mistake, we were too low on fuel to make it back to
Lake Charles. It turned out that the main mission had been scrubbed because of weather and the tower
operator erred in thinking we were still part of the mission.Anyway, we elected to make some touch and go landings since we still had fuel. When we called in for a
full stop landing, we were asked to go around again. We were then informed that a KC-97 <http://
frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/kc97.jpg> tanker, returning from the refueling area could not dump
his JP4 fuel. Since the tanker could not consume the JP4, it would have to spend a lot of time using up
most of it's 100 octane prior to landing.We were asked to go up to 17,000 feet and take about 20.000 pounds of the JP4. We did this and
returned to low level where a six-engine jet consumes JP4 in a hurry. The tanker crew treated us to asteak dinner at the Officer's Club after we landed.
After all this, the next day's trip back to Lake Charles was fairly routine, even with no radar.
Picture of Owen, Madeleine, Joyce, and Billy while at Lake Charles, 1954. <http://frankbsimmons.com/
owen/photos/joyceowenmadeleinebillyforweb.jpg>England Tour
The trip to England was made in a new plane we had obtained, since our assigned plane had been
severely damaged. This happened when another crew lost control on landing after a post maintenance
test flight, while we were on survival training in Nevada.This is mentioned because we did not get a chance to give the new plane a good shakedown. Some of
the problems we encountered can probably be attributed to this lack of flight test time, others might be
attributed to the plane itself, as noted in one of the next segments (final months).Just after in-flight refueling over the northern tip of Newfoundland, our radar started acting up. I decided
it was good enough to get good absolute altitude readings for pressure pattern navigation over the
Atlantic. The picture would be good enough to find England. The decision was to continue on. It turned
out OK.There was a little concern by tower personnel when we deployed our drogue chute on the downwind leg
during landing. However, at that time, all the B47 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b47.jpg>'s
had a drag chute, which is deployed on touchdown. This, being a new plane, was their first sight of a
drogue chute and they thought we had really goofed.The weather was pretty much normal for England, which means few clear days. This meant we had
trouble getting in visual RBS runs and never did get a chance to visually drop our practice spotting
bombs on the range in England. To meet our practice bomb requirement, it was determined that we
would go to Marrakech. Morocco, North Africa. We were scheduled to takeoff at about 4 p.m., stay
overnight, and drop our bombs the next day. And return to England.Page Eighteen
I had a head cold, so about noon I decided to go to the dispensary to get something for it. The medic on
duty said I should not fly until my ears cleared up. When I told him I was flying that night, he contacted
the flight surgeon who, put me on DNIF (duty not to include flying). Any rapid decompression at
altitude could cause severe eardrum damage. As a result, the trip was canceled and we never completed
the bomb requirement.As this TDY ended, it was planned that we would return to the States in several three-plane formations
on two different days. These formations really meant that the two wing crews kept the lead plane in sight.
This was referred to as "British" formation (same direction - same day).On the first day, it had just stopped raining at takeoff time and as a result there was standing water on the
runway. This could cause some problems during takeoff.The first two planes were clean (no wing tanks) and had no great problems during takeoff. The third
plane had wing tanks and was having trouble during the takeoff roll. The plane got off the runway, butwas not really flying. As a result, it mushed back down, crashed and exploded at the end of the runway.
There were no survivors. The fourth plane had started its takeoff roll when the explosion appeared in
sight of the crew. They aborted the takeoff and returned to their hardstand. When the pilot exited the
plane, he stated he would never fly a B47 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b47.jpg> again. In
fact, he did not, and another pilot was sent over to England to fly the plane and crew back.The pilot flew back with the ground crews. He resigned from the Air Force and later information was
that he accepted a pilot position with Eastern Airlines. In the mid-fifties, the airlines were glad to find
any pilot with jet time.This accident, plus two others during the TDY (one lost all three crew members and the other lost the
navigator), caused concern all the way up the ladder. All further flights for the Wing were canceled until
further notice.General LeMay (SAC Commander) personally came over to get involved in the investigation. We were
delayed for a week, but the investigation continued for a considerable length of time. In the end, the
Wing Commander was removed from his position.When we finally headed back, things started happening again. During the takeoff roll, the gyros on my
computer system stabilization unit tumbled. Caging and un-caging them did not help, so I left them
caged. This meant I could do no pressure pattern navigation, so we should not be leading. The number
two crew took over.About halfway across the Atlantic the leader informed us that they had lost their radar. This meant they
would have trouble finding the tankers over Newfoundland. The third crew had encountered some
previous navigation problems, so we agreed to take the lead back. At least my radar was working, even
with the lack of stabilization.When we took over, my dead reckoning indicated we were south (left) of course, so I gave a correction
to the north. Since I could do no pressure pattern work. I just put my radar on the 200-mile range and
waited for Newfoundland to show up on the left edge of the scope.When land showed up, it appeared at the top of the scope. The way I had my map folded, there should
have been no land right (north) of course. While I was unfolding my map, I suddenly remembered that I
had no stabilization, so, with the gyros caged. I had no north orientation. Thus, the top of my scope was
not north, but was in fact the aircraft heading. We were heading directly towards the northern tip of
Newfoundland. The old saying held true - a navigator never gets lost, just momentarily confused.Page Nineteen
We met up with the tankers and proceeded to take on fuel. We had pressure problems, which created a
very slow transfer. The tanker stayed with us beyond the normal break-off point. When he needed to
turn back to his base, (Harmon AFB, Newfoundland), we tried to hang on in a 180° (10° bank) turn, but
stalled and broke off. We headed on to Lake Charles and arrived well below the recommended minimum
fuel reserve. At least we were finally back in the States.Final Months
I am going to try to explain my last several months in the Air Force and why I decided I had gone far
enough. I had always said that, except in combat conditions, if I lost the desire to fly, I would stop. If I
was not flying, I had no intention of staying in the Air Force. The Air Force changed the rules, which
gave me, and many others, an out.When we agreed to get our extra ratings for B47 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b47.jpg>, we
had to sign an indefinite tour of duty statement. There was still a twenty-one month "escape" clause. In
early 1955, this clause was deleted and we were asked to sign a new statement or revert back to our
reserve commission expiration date. I, and many others, did not sign. This meant they had to let me out
not later than December 1955.Since I was getting out no later than December, I asked in mid 1955 to be taken off flight status. This
created quite a stir because several other navigators were taking the same route. For navigators, the B47
<http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b47.jpg> had become somewhat of a nightmare. SAC
Headquarters asked for a volunteer to come up to explain what the problem appeared to be.Even though it is considered a no-no to volunteer for much of anything, I agreed to go up. I won't go into
the details. Suffice it to say that my meeting before a board of three colonels was really a lot more
informal than normal, since I was leaving the Air Force. They did not convince me to stay in. However. I
think I got the navigator's message across. I hope it helped some others. However, my feeling is that it
probably didn't help much.Now it was just a matter of what my ground assignment would be while my request to terminate my
reserve commission worked its way through the system. Getting back to civilian life was just a matter of
time.As it turned out, the commander of the Headquarters and Headquarters Squadron was transferred, so I
was given the position. This was basically a grouping of a multitude of ground related functions. The
position was rather intense and time-consuming, but it was also very interesting and a welcome change
from the flying routine, at least for a while.Last Flight
Let me explain a couple things. In an effort to maintain proficiency the Strategic Air Command had a
policy whereby a crew could get a spot (temporary) promotion if they maintained an 85% rating on all
relative requirements for four out of five quarters. This would mean a promotion to Major for us.When my former pilots realized how close we were, they started talking to me about coming back on
flying status. It would not help me, since I would be out before the promotion could work its way
through the system, but it could help them. The $200 per month flying bonus also helped in my decision
to go back on flying status.After a few routine flights, it was realized that time was of the essence, so we figured with proper
planning we could complete the requirements in one more somewhat complex flight. We needed to drop
four 500Ib. bombs, perform one day wet (6.000Ib.) refueling hookup, one night dry hookup, and
complete two night celestial legs. There was also the need to meet or exceed the accuracy requirements
or the effort would be a waste of time.Page Twenty
The last flight was planned for the following sequences.
1. Schedule the takeoff time such that the day and night hookups could be performed and notify the
tanker crew of the time, location, and altitude.2. Drop the bombs, one at a time, on Matagorda Island bombing range.
3. Perform the web hookup just before official sundown, orbit a couple times, and come back in for a
dry night hookup.4. Complete the first celestial leg from Austin, Texas to Kalamazoo, Michigan and complete the second
leg from Lansing, Michigan back to Lake Charles. This would complete the final quarter requirementsIn the Air Force, you learn to expect the unexpected, so you always have a backup plan in mind. This
helped when, just after passing the maximum refusal speed on takeoff, the number six engine acted up
and had to be shut down.Flying a B47 <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/photos/b47.jpg> on five engines was not a major
problem, except it limited the cruise altitude.We were schedule to be at 35,000 feet over the bombing range. When we asked to come in at 30.000
feet (minimum for a legal score) we were informed that a B36 was using that altitude. The B36 crew
agreed to let us use the altitude, so we completed our four runs. All four scores were good.The wet and dry hookups went off per schedule and we left Austin on our way to Kalamazoo. The plan
was to some computation adjustments for the second leg, while going over to Lansing.After I had determined my final ETA to Kalamazoo. I noted that the air speed had dropped off. I won't
go into the details except to say the copilot was fooling with the number six (dead) engine controls when
he accidentally pulled the feathering button on number 5. By now, with no bombs and less fuel, we had
climbed to 36,000 feet. This was no place to be on four engines. Because of this, while going from
Kalamazoo to Lansing, we went into a shallow dive to hopefully enable the pilot to restart number 5
engine. A jet engine normally will not start at such an altitude but the dive apparently helped the restart.The fact that we got the number 5 engine restarted allowed us to stay above 30, 000 feet, the minimum
altitude to get credit for the second celestial leg back to Lake Charles. We completed all planned
activities and the scores were all well within the requirements. This flight turned out to be a somewhat
typical way to complete my nearly eight years of flying with the Army Air Corps and the U.S. Air Force.There is my story covering a few of the many events that transpired over the eight years. I've tried to capture and, share events that stood out in my memory to give some clarity and meaning of those times to those who are interested in what the military service aspect of lives, mine and others, might have been like. Putting this down on paper has proven to be a good way for me to reflect on those times. It has allowed me to validate in my mind the significance of the events and of the individuals that shared those same experiences.
Planes flew in Korea: Reluctant Dragon (46 Missions), Mason's Honey <http://frankbsimmons.com/ owen/photos/b29honey.jpg> (1 Mission),
P.S.
I am adding this postscript, to hopefully make a point. You can put physical items away whereby they will seldom see the light of day over a period of many years. (My Air Medal <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/htmfiles/airmedal.htm> is still in its original box, which also contains my Captain Bars <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/htmfiles/barribbonpatches.htm>, two sets of Wings <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/htmfiles/wings.htm>, one of six Oak Leaf Clusters to the Air Medal <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/htmfiles/airmedal.htm>, and one of two Campaign Ribbons with three Battle Stars. <http://frankbsimmons.com/owen/htmfiles/barribbonpatches.htm>) By contrast, past memories cannot be put away, such that they will never be recalled again--nor should they be. The past provided the seeds for the fruits of the present and future.
William had the following children:
131 F i. Living Simmons, who married Living Armstrong.
132 M ii. Living Simmons.
107. Ruth Evelyn Jones (James Patrick Jones, Mary Ellen Simmons, Manerva J. Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born2 on 24 Nov 1913 in Vicennes, Knox Co., IN. She died on 22 Feb 1988 in La Mesa, San Diego Co., CA. She was buried on 25 Feb 1988 in El Camino Mem Pk, San Diego, San Diego Co., CA. She had other parents.
appears on the in 1930 Census of Center Twp., Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN. with parents
Description: fair skin, curly brown hair, medium built, blue eyes, 5 foot 2.
Birth: Info from Ruth herself.
Marriage: Info from Ruth herself.
Death: Family info present at funeral and burial.
A Ruth Olson, b. 24 Nov 1913, d. 22 Feb 1988, res. zip code 92045, listed in the social security death index 304-28-1899 IN.
Had first child (Charlotte) at age 15. Not married to father. (Last name Mulky)
Married Thaddius Quinn and had second child (Doris).
Seperated from Thaddius and had third child (Harold Richard Quinn) whose father was Elbert McConnell. Ruth and Elbert were planning on marrying as soon as Ruth could get a divorce from Thaddius, but Elbert died before that could happen. Elbert was a recent widower. His late wife Ruth Hess had been a good friend of Ruth and her sister. They had gone to school together. Elbert "Buddy" Jr. son of Elbert McConnell remembers seeing a picture of Ruth Jones Quinn and being told that that was going to be his new mother, but when Elbert Sr. died, Elbert Jr. was sent to live with relatives who knew little to nothing of Ruth Quinn and especially nothing (or else pretended to know nothing) of the child she had by Elbert (whom Harold and Elbert Jr. finally met in the mid 1980's.) Ruth then married J.D. Bryant, and had 4th child Edward Gene Bryant. They later divorced and Ruth married Joe Olsen. Ruth and Joe moved from Indiana to San Diego, California, in the mid to late 1960's to be near Ruth's children, all of whom had moved to Southern California in the early to mid 1960's.
Ruth separated from Joe, but never had the divorce finalized. They remained on speaking terms, but lived in seperate homes and dated other people until her death. A judge declared them legally still married because Ruth visited Joe, did his laundry, and handled his money even though they had lived apart for several years and she was dating another man. Joe received all of Ruth's personal property and possessions which she had meant to go to her children.
Occupations:
Homemaker most of the time, earned money when needed. Worked as a store keeper in a drug store back in Indiana.
Was originally named Edith, but they changed the name later.Grandma Ruth was the type of person who was free spirited and aways interested in trying new things. She was never repressed, and even in her late 60's, was still "scamming" on guys. One day when I accompanied her to a doctor's appointment, she shocked me when, while we were sitting in the parking lot, she would make comments on all the elderly men who came in and out of the building. She did have some hang-ups caused mostly from her hard life and always being poor. She was a stickler on shoes--you could NEVER walk on the sides of your shoes or slide them along the floor scuffing them up. She was always afraid that you'd wear them out too soon. Also, she tended to try to keep everything looking like new. She had a beautiful set of children's story books that she never let anyone touch. Her furniture, even her rug, were always covered in plastic, and she hoarded everything--never threw anything away. Consequently, when she died, her house--AND at least one storage unit--were stuffed with stuff. When my dad and aunt Charlotte (Doris was still in Washington) tried to clean it all out and give away stuff to grandkids, etc., Eddie talked Joe into sueing for possession of everything. (Eddie went to live with Joe when grandma died. Eddie was a totally useless alcoholic by then incapable of taking care of himself). Joe didn't really want the stuff, and he let Eddie do whatever he wanted to do with it. Eddie sold it all, went on a major drinking binge with the money, and was dead in a few months of liver failure. Nobody went to his funeral. The really sad part is that there was a lot of worthless but emotionally priceless stuff that Eddie probably just threw away. Grandma Ruth had one of my few senior pictures (we didn't have money to buy very many) which she always kept in a frame in her living room. Nobody knows what happened to it along with a ton of irreplaceable photos of ancestors and relatives that my dad remembers her having, but nobody found where she kept them before Eddie got the restraining order keeping my dad and aunt Charlotte from looking through more stuff. My dad and Aunt Charlotte did manage to sneak out and keep a few mementoes.
For one thing, the Rocking Horse cookie jar that I have was given to Grandma by my parents when I was born. It stayed up on top of her refrigerator the whole time I was growing up. (I don't think it ever held cookies). Charlotte was able to find a small box of some old photos that she let me make negatives of, and two small folding rocking chairs were kept. The rocking chairs grandma had just recently bought before she died. I got one and Deanna got the other, but mine got broken by the kids in no time. But because Grandma didn't own it very long, I didn't consider it to be a very big loss. There was also a vase that I was given, but the cat knocked it over and broke it. I don't remember ever seeing it in my Grandma's house, so luckily I had no real attachment to it. The last thing I was given was a small metal-footed bowl. The cookie jar is the only thing that I received that held any memories for me. Everything else was just stuff that she had put away and never used. I'm sure Charlotte's kids got a lot of stuff, but I don't know what. Dad and Charlotte had pretty much decided that Charlotte was to have most of Grandma's stuff since she was the only one who was never being constantly supported by Grandma. They kind of figured that Doris and Eddie had pretty much already received their inheritance because of all the money Grandma had given them over the years, and my dad didn't really want anything and Grandma had helped us out financial a few times anyway. Grandma did insist that, when she died, my dad get her car--a brand new Cadillac. Unfortunately, Eddie made sure the Cadillac was specfically mentioned in the court order that Joe got demanding that my dad and Charlotte return all the stuff that they had taken (The funny thing is that NEITHER Joe nor Eddie could drive! Joe never learned and had always depended on Grandma to take him everywhere, and Eddie lost his license for drunken driving). They returned the car and a few other things, but they knew that Eddie wouldn't even notice all the worthless stuff (like the rocking horse cookie jar) that they didn't return which is why we still have some stuff.
I do have a lot of good memories of my grandma. I was a family tradition that she take all the grandkids for seperate weeks during the summer. Charlotte's kids went for a couple of weeks, and then Deanna and I would go for a couple of weeks. There was a bedroom that was officially the grandkids bedroom. It had bunkbeds, and two dresser drawers. Each grandkid had their own drawer to keep their stuff in. I remember how upset I'd get when I'd find that some cousin had gone through my drawer and colored in my coloring books (It was usually Sherri since she was the youngest). Eventually Sherri went to live with Grandma after Eddie became too much of a drunk to support himself (Sherri's mother wasn't any better) so "the kids bedroom" became her bedroom anyway. My cousin Mike also lived with Grandma for awhile while he was stationed in San Diego in the Navy.
Grandma also came up to visit us a lot. She always said that the reason that she moved to San Diego was because she wanted to be close enough to her kids to visit, but not close enough to interfere in their lives. She was a very wise lady. I learned a lot from her.
appears on the on 2 Apr 1930 Census of Center Twp., Indianapolis, Marion Co., in. age 18
In 1930, lived near W. Michgan and Cable Streets in Center Twp., Indianapolis, IN right by the White River. Elbert and Ruth had the following children:Sources:
Death certificate of Elbert David McConnell.
Memories of Ruth Evelyn Jones Olson
Newspaper clippings from around the time of the auto accident.
Birth certificate of Elbert David McConnel.
Nella McConnell Rieman 7651 E Fall Creek Rd Indianapolis IN 46256
+ 133 M i. Harold Richard (McConnell) Quinn was born on 26 Dec 1936. He died on 3 Feb 2002.Ruth was not married (2) to Charles M Mulkey . Charles was born on 13 Feb 1908 in In. He died on 19 Apr 1985 in Palm Desert, Riverside Co., Ca.
appears on the on 14 Jan 1920 Census of Center Twp., Indianapolis, Marion Co., in. age 11 appears on the on 3 Apr 1930 Census of Wayne Twp., Marion Co., in. age 23, living in household of father-in-law Holman Martin He was employed as truck driver for a florist on 3 Apr 1930 in Wayne Twp., Marion Co., in.
3 Apr 1930 Census for Wayne Twp., Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN
King Avenue
724 42 44 Marton, Holman E M W 52 M Indiana
------------------------- Elizabeth J. Wife F W 51M Indiana
Mulkey Charles Son-in-law M W 23 M Indiana
Mildred J daughter F W 21 M 17
Eula B Gr-daughter F W 39/12 S Indiana
Charles H Gr-daughter M W 2 5/12 S Indiana
Charlotte L Gr-daughter F W 8/12 S Indiana
Tucker George W Boarder M W 85 Wd New York
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Last residence on SS death index is listed as Palm Desert CA.
CHARLES MULKEY 13 Feb 1908 Apr
1985 92260 (Palm Desert, Riverside, CA ) 92260 (Palm Desert, Riverside,
CA ) 303-09-9340 Indiana
A Rose C. Mulkey is listed also having died in Palm Desert,
Riverside,
CA.
MULKEY ROSE C 10/09/1917 TERTZAG KAFFEYAN F MASSACHUSETTS
RIVERSIDE
12/21/
1986 562-18-4434 69 yr
MARRIAGE: Marion County, Indiana Index to Marriage Record 1920 -
1925
Inclusive Volume 16 Pt.
2 Letters M to Z Inclusive Original Record Located: County Clerk's
Office Indianapolis W. P. A.
Compiled by Indiana Works Progress Administration County: Marion Name:
Mildred J Morton
Spouse: Charles Mulkey Marriage Date: 11 Nov 1925 Book: 126 Original
Source Page: 371
DEATH: Funeral home was Little and Sons, Beach Grove, IN; Birth also listed as 13 Feb 1906; Charles and Ruth had the following children:
+ 134 F ii. Living Mulkey .
Ruth married (3) Thaddeus Quinn "Ted" in 1930/1939 in Indiana. The marriage ended in divorce.Thaddeus was born on 2 Jun 1913 in Indiana. He died in Dec 1974 in Oregon.
Thaddeus was employed as welder - Iron Corp on 3 Apr 1930 in Wayne Twp., Marion Co., in. appears on the on 3 Apr 1930 Census of Wayne Twp., Marion Co., in. age 17, living with widowed mother
A Thaddeus Quinn b. 2 Jun 1913, d. Dec 1974, res. Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN listed in the social security death index 310-24-0202 IN.
Thaddeus was arrested for being the "get away man" in a bank robbery. He was in jail when Ruth met Elbert McConnell, and when Ruth and Elbert's son Harold was born.
Later, Ted was big into the KKK (Klu Klux Klan), and wrote many religious books against such things as mixed race marriages. Thaddeus and Ruth had the following children:
+ 135 F iii. Living Quinn .Ruth married (4) Gerald Douglas Bryant "J.D." in 1940/1942. The marriage ended in divorce.Gerald was born on 7 May 1921 in ,,Oh. He died on 18 Sep 1994 in Hesperia,San Bernardino,Ca.
Address for JD and Martha Bryant 15378 Sequoia Ave Apt F Hesperia CA
92345 Phone # (619) 947-5096
JD had a 2nd wife after Ruth and had a dau., Edith. The wife died while
the girl was young and JD m. 3rd. Martha. and had children, Candy,
Jerry,
and Mike. JD and Martha and kids were very close to us while we were
growing
up. Deanna was the flower girl for either Edith or Candy's
wedding
(can't remember which). JD and Martha posed in the family photos as my
grandparents for my first
wedding (to Ray Williams)TT Died at abt 3:00 am at home. SSN#
312-12-5025
Died of appearent suicide by a 22 caliber gun to the head. J.D had been suffering with emphysema and was not expected to live long. He had been concerned with the mounting cost of his medical treatment and didn't want to cause any more expense to his family. His expected death was the reason that when he was found dead, the coroner just assumed it was a natural death.TT
Picked up at home by Mortuary Transport employee (Inland Empire Transportation, Inc) Ken Terry (step-grandson in law) for Kern Mortuary. Ken did not recognize JD and did not know JD's real name was Gerald until after he had taken him to Kern Mortuary.
Ken had been dispatched to the call from Kern as a natural death, but upon examination of the body a bullet hole was found and it became a Coroner's case.
Gerald Bryant b. 7 May 1921, d. 18 Sep 1994, res. Hesperia, San Bernardino, CA, listed in the social security death index, 312-12-5025 IN. Gerald and Ruth had the following children:
+ 136 M iv. Edward Gene Bryant was born on 17 Jul 1942. He died on 20 Jul 1991.
Ruth married (5) Adelore Joseph Olson "Joe" after 1942. Adelore
was born about 1929.
He resided in Duluth, Mn.
res. Indiana pre mid 1960's.
res. San Diege CA post mid 1960's.
This may be him, but not sure.
OLSON JOSEPH V 01/28/1922 SNYDER M IOWA SAN DIEGO(37) 06/18/1989
553-20-6065 67 yrs
Seventh GenerationSources
1. Pam Green, Email to Michael Shelby Walker.
2. Knox Co Indiana Index to Births 1882-1920, Book H-14, pg 57.Name listed as Jones, Edith father Pat, mother Ollie Street, Female. Edith's name was later changed to Ruth.
111. Robert Joe Walker (Frank Walker, Shelby Lemon Walker, Thomas Thurston Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born on 25 May 1947. Robert married Kendra Ann Demonge. They had the following children:
+ 137 F i. Cynthia Leigh Walker .112. Candace Sue Walker "Susie or Candy" (Frank Walker, Shelby Lemon Walker, Thomas Thurston Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born on 27 Aug 1949. Candace married Lawrence James Larese, Jr. in Export, Pa. They had the following children:
138 M ii. Matthew Frank Walker. Matthew married Heather Buhi in Hamilton, Oh.
+ 139 M iii. Christopher David Walker .
140 M iv. Mark Robert Walker .
141 M i. Michael James Larese .116. Linda Rae Walker (Frank Walker, Shelby Lemon Walker, Thomas Thurston Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born on 16 Aug 1956 in Indianapolis, in. Linda m1. Dwight Farrell on 19 Oct 1977. The marriage ended in divorce. They had the following children:
142 M ii. Carrie Ann Larese .
143 M i. Ryan Farrell .Linda married (2) Lee . The marriage ended in divorce.
144 M ii. Adam Farrell .
145 M iii. Daniel Farrell .
146 F iv. Amy Farrell .
147 M v. David Farrell .
117. Betty Ann Walker (Frank Walker, Shelby Lemon Walker, Thomas Thurston Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born on 27 May 1960 in Indianapolis, in. Betty married Jeffrey Allen Seymour on 26 Oct 1984 in Indianapolis, in. They had the following children:
148 F i. Katie Seymour .118. Thomas Frank Walker (Frank Walker, Shelby Lemon Walker, Thomas Thurston Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born on 3 Aug 1964 in Indianapolis, in. Thomas m. Virginia Hunter on 16 Oct 1985. They had the following children:
149 F ii. Emily Seymour .
150 M i. Jake Walker was born in Sep 1994.119. William Walker (Frank Walker, Shelby Lemon Walker, Thomas Thurston Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom). William m1. Lori Unknown Walker . The marriage ended in divorce. They had the following children:
151 M i. Tom Walker .William m2. Mary Unknown Walker .
152 F ii. Mandy Jo Walker .She had other parents.
121. Linda Caroll (Frank Walker, Shelby Lemon Walker, Thomas Thurston Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom). Linda married (1) Dwight Farrel. The marriage ended in divorce. They had the following children:
153 M i. Ryan Farrel .Linda married (2) Matthew Carroll .
154 M ii. Adam Farrel .
155 M iii. Daniel Farrel .
156 F iv. Amy Farrel .
157 M v. David Farrel .
122. Betty Ann Walker (Frank Walker, Shelby Lemon Walker, Thomas Thurston Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom).Betty married Jeff Seymour. They had the following children:
158 F i. Katie Seymour .133. Harold Richard (McConnell) Quinn "Dick" (Ruth Evelyn Jones, James Patrick Jones, Mary Ellen Simmons, Manerva J. Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom) was born on 26 Dec 1936 in Indianapolis,Marion Co,in. He died on 3 Feb 2002 in Norco, Riverside Co., Ca. The cause of death was Stroke. He was buried in Feb 2002 in Evergreen Cemetery, Riverside, Riverside Co., Ca.
159 F ii. Emily Seymour .
Harold resided in 1960/2001 in Buena Park, Orange Co., Ca. He was employed as Manager in Builder's Emporium, Kmart. He resided in 1962/1976 in 6302 Darlington Ave., Buena Park, Orange Co., Ca.
Harold took his stepfather's name
Marriage record of Harold Quinn and Rose Marie Gosc
Birth certificate of Harold Richard Quinn
Discription: 5 foot 6 inches, slim to medium built, medium brown
curly
hair,
fair skin. Blue - grey eyes.
Favorite hobbies: Working in the garage doing repair work on TV's or
woodworking. Also, painting and fishing.
Occupation: Sales management.
Places worked: Builders Emporium, Kmart.
Harold has the last name of Quinn because his mother Ruth and Elbert
McConnell
were not married. Ruth was in the process of trying to divorce
Thaddius
Quinn, who would not concent to the divorce. Ruth and Elbert
started living
together and Ruth became pregnant. Elbert died within a year
after Harold
was born. Ruth went back to her husband for a while but did
finally
get the
divorce granted.
"Dick" went to Mooresville High School, Class of 1956.
Harold married (1) Rose Marie Gosc .
They had the following children:
Teresa Jean Quinn, b. unk. ; m. Kenneth David Terry (
) -- [160 F i. ]
Harold married (2) Living Gosc .
They had the following children:
161 F ii. Living Quinn .
Living married (1) Unknown .
Living married (2) Unknown .
Living married (3) Unknown .
162 F iii. Living Quinn .
134. Living Mulkey (Ruth Evelyn Jones, James Patrick Jones, Mary Ellen Simmons, Manerva J. Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom); m. Richard Edwin Clements "Dick, Clem" (b. 8 Jun 1924 in Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN; d. 10 Jan 2004 in Kindred Hospital, 510 n. Monterey Ave., Ontario, San Bernardino Co., Ca.
He served in the military in the Army. He was employed as machinist for abt. 23 years at Calcomp which was later bought out by Lockhead in 1960/1980 in Fullerton, Orange Co., Ca.
Grew up next door to wife Charlotte Quinn and family. Sister Martha Ellen Cory. Lived on Lassen Drive in Buena Park CA during early 1960's and 1970's. Moved to Poppy St also in Buena Park, then moved to Dale Street across the street from the Buena Park Mall until he and his wife retired in 1988. They then sold their house and bought a "5th wheeler" RV and decided to travel from place to place while retired. address is at a RV park: 32500 Riverside Dr Lake Elsinor CA 92330 Worked at CalComp in Fullerton for many years. 14750 BLUEBELL DR CHINO HILLS, CA 91709 Liked to work on cars as a hobby; 6 ch.
.1--Living Clements, [163 F i. ]135. Living Quinn (Ruth Evelyn Jones, James Patrick Jones, Mary Ellen Simmons, Manerva J. Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom); m. Mr. Maxwell; 3 ch..2--Living Clements, b. unk.; d. unk.; m1. unk.; m2. unk.; [164 F ii. ]
.3--Living Clements, [165 M iii. ]
.4--Living Clements, [166 F iv. ]
.5--Living Clements, [167 M v. ]
.6--Living Clements, [168 M vi. ]
.1--Living Maxwell, [169 F i.]Edward Gene Bryant, (Ruth Evelyn Jones, James Patrick Jones, Mary Ellen Simmons, Manerva J. Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom), b. 17 Jul 1942 in IN; d. 20 Jul 1991 in San Diego, CA [136.] [TT Note: "Uncle Eddie" was a real loser. He lost custody of his daughter when he was accused of molestation. He was close to my dad, being my dad's only brother (that he knew about at the time), but my parents never left my sister and me alone with him. Eddie died of alcoholism soon after Grandma Ruth died. He had talked Grandma's ex-husband, Joe, into suing for ownership of all Grandma's possessions including things she had given to her other children before she died. Joe won the court case based on the fact that all though they had been separated for many years, they still maintained a friendship and it was discovered that the final divorce papers were never recorded. Therefore, he was still legally her husband. Joe didn't really want the stuff, so he gave it all to Eddie who sold it all and trashed what he couldn't sell. Eddie used the money for alcohol and basically drank himself to death. I don't know of anybody who went to his funeral (if he even had one). Sharri (his daughter who was put in a foster home) was the one who told us of Eddie's death. I think that Eddie was married twice, and that Eddie Jr. and Sherry had different mothers, but I don't know the marriage dates or anything, so I have Eddie Jr. and Sherry listed under the same mother. SSN#307-42-0209]; 2 ch..2--Living Maxwell, [ 170 F ii. ]
.3--Living Maxwell, [ 171 M iii. ]
.1--Edward Bryant, Jr., d. bef. 2000. The cause of death was suicide. [ 172 M i. ]Not sure of name; committed suicide bef 1998; I only met him once. He came to visit back around 1981 when he was a teenager. I think he was a little younger than me. He may have been around Deanna's age. The only thing I remember about him was that Deanna was housesitting at some rich lady's house, and he went to visit her. While there he stole a very expensive vase. TT
.2--Sharri Bryant; m. unk.; [173 F ii. ]
.1--Cynthia Leigh Walker (Robert Joe Walker, Frank Walker, Shelby Lemon Walker, Thomas Thurston Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom); m. ca. 10 Oct 1991 in Hamilton, OH, to Eric Wilson .(b. unk.; d. unk.; bd. unk.); 4 known ch.--137.
.1--Clare Anne Wilson, b. 17 May 2001--174 F i..2--Christopher David Walker (Robert Joe Walker, Frank Walker, Shelby Lemon Walker, Thomas Thurston Walker, Isham Gwin Walker, Polly Gwin, Isom); m. in Hamilton, OH, to Faith (nee unk.;); one known ch.--139.
.2--Caleb Wilson, b. 20 Mar 1999--175 M ii.
.3--Joshua McLellan Wilson, b. 6 Mar 1997--176 M iii.
.4--Eric Joseph "Joey" Wilson, b. 14 Mar 1996--177 M iv.
.1--Ephraim Walker, b. ca. 2003--178 M i.
From: "Mike Walker" <walk5755@bellsouth.net>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2006 04:11:17 PM US/Mountain
To: "John Gwin" <jmcdgwin@zianet.com>, "Jim Wall" <JAMESTWALL@aol.com>
Subject: Manerva Walker birthdateJohn and Jim, I noted the discrepancy in birth order too. I think the census records support a birth date of about 1833. In the 1850 census she reported a birthdate of abt 1833 (age 17 in 1850 Martin Co., Rutherford Twp. IN). She and John already have a one year old child, Eliza.
According to my cousin Pam Green (I think that is where the 1825 date came from) there is a marriage certificate for Manerva Walker and John Williams Simmons as follows: Married: 10 Dec 1846 in Martin Co., IN -- Marriage License: 12 Oct 1846 in Martin Co., IN. This would make her 13 years old at the date of marriage. If she was born after Anderson (say 1834) she would only have been 12 in 1846. My conclusion is that cousin Pam is wrong and the census is right. (I guess she could have married at age 13, though! I hope not.)
By the way, you may have seen cousin Pam's email address around and about. She uses Tom Green@tptexas@erols.com. Her husband is Tom Greene. Pam is the daughter of my uncle Charles Walker and his wife Ann. I haven't actually seen her for probably 40 years. We did email some while back (maybe 5-10 years ago) and I don't think this email address works anymore. Regards, Mike
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From: Mike Walker [mailto:walk5755@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 4:58 PM
To: John Gwin; Jim Wall (JAMESTWALL@aol.com)
Subject: Emailing: descendents of James Veatch.rtfJohn and Jim, Here is an RTF of the Veatch family I have been able to dig up. Hope you can read it. Would you guys like an update of my gedcom? Can you read gedcoms yet, John? Mike